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Sasha Stone's avatar

It makes me physically ill to watch these clowns pretend to do journalism. They have to attack you, Matt, because otherwise what does that say about them? That they were complicit in all of it, that they work for the administrative state. They should hang their heads in shame. I would call them whores but that's an insult to whores.

SimulationCommander's avatar

Yes! Exactly! They won't cover it because they're in on it! And while my favorite term is 'presstitute', while doing a little research into the word I came across 'Whorespondent', which is also top-notch.

https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/its-no-surprise-medias-ignoring-the

Brad's avatar

It really is a damning indictment of the mainstream media that they seek to impose professional consequences on journalists who don’t agree with or parrot every liberal piety. Taibbi has already been right-coded for straying from the left-wing consensus, and his lack of deference to his "betters" employed at establishment lie merchants puts him at odds with the anti-majoritarian party line that progressive journalists, who endorse a new set of moral attitudes and political commitments that attenuate our norms of open debate and intellectual diversity in favor of ideological conformity, have fervently policed since Trump’s election.

https://euphoricrecall.substack.com/p/matt-taibbi-and-bari-weiss-are-conservative

SimulationCommander's avatar

And the 'parrots' know that as soon as they deviate on ONE SINGLE THING, they will be excommunicated from the tribe -- a real problem if your identity is wrapped up in your political positions.

Thus you have people arguing to disarm Americans while arming Ukraine to protect freedom, or any other of non-sensical positions that only exist because of peer pressure.

Reggie VanderVeen's avatar

It may not go back far enough but "follow the money" started when Walter Duranty excused totalitarianism with his "you can't make an omellete without breaking eggs" while he watched Stalin crush the Ukraine. The "parrots of today" are no different.

Fran's avatar

The unfortunate thing is that many ordinary people, if not most, would agree with their assessment of Matt, and I've already come across it. They are aligned with MSNBC, or CNN. Someone claimed Musk is all in it for the money, and Taibbi jumped on his money bandwagon. I wonder if he was a troll because he was abusive in terms of his responses to my posts, and almost demanded I agree. Authoritarian SOB. Gave it right back to him. I always find that people who attack independent journalists which provide a truthful perspective on things are attacked, and hated by those who are paid to lie since money owns their soul. Screw them.

Stxbuck's avatar

The federal government outsourced virtually everything else it does, so why not surveillance and propaganda?!?!

Gail's avatar

Absolutely hideous. The US/NATO war with Russia to cover up the Russia Hoax and the 2014 False Flag used to cover up the Ukraine proxy corruptitude and selling our uranium to Russia and the backdoor deal allowing Russia arms sales to Iran in exchange for the JCPOA. Trump/Flynn was the greatest threat to the Deep State global mafia. Ditto Tulsi, who Bannon was eyeing for a top ranking appt to the Trump admin.Putin would have decoupled from Iran if a deal was reached to ensure Russian sovereignty.

Gail's avatar

They’ve done so time and again. Sharyl Attkisson, James Rosen, Lara Logan, O’Keefe, Assange, Andy Ngo, Ian Miles Cheong, Jon Solomon, Posobiec, Kim Iversen, Larry Klayman, Sara Carter, Richard Pollock, Ami Horowitz, Miranda Devine, David Marcus, Chris Farrell… It no longer matters which side of the aisle or neither. Only if the honest journalism exposes the truth. It’s just that heinous.

feldspar's avatar

Or maybe they just think he's a dick. Who knows? Don't overthink things, Brad.

Daren Sweeney's avatar

The irony is that the is nothing "liberal" about these people.

Shane Gericke's avatar

Oh, man, "whorespondent" is my new favorite word! Thanks.

Christofer Nigro's avatar

"Presstitute" and "Whorespondent" are both very clever!!!

Reggie VanderVeen's avatar

I like the Sorros, Schwab, Gates "philanthropath" label too. Works a generation or two ago too...Ford, Carnegie, Rockefeller, Morgan, Mellon...

Preston Harris's avatar

I'm going to have to go with "Narrative Nazi".

Steve C's avatar

I call them “Reality Vacuums”. Their efforts to suck up reality and spit out their own version reveals they are truly truly evil.

publius_x's avatar

But we already have Asshole. Who needs anything better.

As in: "And then there's this asshole..."

Robert Hunter's avatar

I wouldn't be insulting honest sex workers by comparing them to this dreck.

publius_x's avatar

Where does one find one of those?

Jeff's avatar

Not at MSNBC nor CNN.

Andrew Copple's avatar

Another good one I've heard is 'Urinalist.'

Matt330's avatar

I don't know Commander. Isn't that comparison just a little unfair to the working girls of this country?

SimulationCommander's avatar

LOL I do often make a note of that, but in this case Sasha already had it handled. 😂

Phisto Sobanii's avatar

Can we get cuntporter in the mix?

Alex in MN's avatar

Wonderfully said! I'm adopting both terms next chance I get.

Anti-Hip's avatar

We're fighting for freedom, fairness, and sanity -- but the crooks among these guys are fighting for their lives. As they are exposed, and as their criminality becomes too difficult to fool the majority anymore with fig leaves, they will do ANYTHING to avoid an SBF-level fall from power and grace. Remember that, as this hybrid stealth war (that they unilaterally started against us years ago) really heats up -- and hedge accordingly.

Brad's avatar

Yes! We saw how the elites reacted to a Trump win and a populist challenge to their power. Disgusting.

Joni Ellsworth's avatar

Except that Trump is a criminal, an unfit ignoramus, a malignant lying narcissist, and he didn't actually win.

Anti-Hip's avatar

"Trump is a criminal, an unfit ignoramus, a malignant lying narcissist"

Joni Ellsworth, you may think this means something about Trump supporters, but you're wrong. Trump won despite his character flaws (exquisitely exaggerated by the media) -- not because of them. And in late 2016 and early 2017, as I well recall, there was scattered in the press some miraculous soul-searching beginning, just a bit, here and there, to understand the real reasons most people voted for Trump. But then, of course, the TPTB got to work, nipping these revelations in the bud, in their place cultivating widespread, full-blown, monomaniacal TDS. Sadly, I see you've got a case of this; my sympathies, best wishes for your recovery.

Brad has pointed this shining example of what it means to cross TPTB, confirming my first comment above. But all you have in response, ironically, is mindless hate.

Nobody's avatar

>> Except that Trump is a criminal, an unfit ignoramus, a malignant lying narcissist

You could say the same thing about virtually every politician in DC. And you have probably voted many times for some of them.

>> he didn't actually win

He did win. It's time to move on.

Reggie VanderVeen's avatar

Whoa. Cool. You mean Truth (capital "T") wins out. Like it.

DarkSkyBest's avatar

My new year's resolution was to stop following "news reporting," because it just gives me heartburn. But I have to say, the news about "classified" stuff at the Biden UPenn "Think Tank" is so reflective of the "democracy" we live in right now. Corrupt to the core. And apparently its only reason for existing. Not for freedom. Not for fairness. Not inspiring or aspiring. Certainly not for, us.

So what's in the closet at UPenn. Over-classified docs that don't amount to a hill of beans, the discovery of which wasn't outed until after the mid-terms (for some reason)? Or, government docs that if made public would make the Biden Government Syndicate detract from the Scranton Joe persona? Or maybe a little trace evidence that they are in the bag for (fill in the blank) China, Ukraine, Soros, every NGO, the EU, BLM, and on and on.

This, is the story. There are NO rules that apply to Our Betters. And the coastal media are on board with the belief that they and their friends are Our Betters. Nothing they do really looks bad or is out of line. We have a serious problem in our country. To quote our eloquent Pres, "I'm not joking."

craazyman's avatar

While I agree totally with you, why do you watch them?

These are the people in the Milgram Experiment that would have electrocuted their own loving mothers. They suffer from a disease of consciousness that may be termed a form of possession in the sense of Dostoevsky’s “Demons” (aka The Possessed).

Demons? Really? Isn’t that over the top? Yes and no. Carnival show demons levitate and speak in deep strange voices through their victims. They’re great for movies and folk tales. But the real demons are anthropomorphic expressions of disembodied but intelligent energies, they work silently and Invisibly eating like flies on shit at the edges of human consciousness, parasites inside the mind of the host, destroying everything before they move on to another host. Like addictions to meth or heroin or gambling. They devour their host and turn it into their puppet. Ecce Homo.

Jala's avatar

Nope do not watch any of the alphabet idiots

RioRosie's avatar

Why watch them?

The Godfather said it best: "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer."

And while we're at it, Matt, you need to scream that they're committing "VIOLENCE!"

michael888's avatar

I think psychopaths and sociopaths now rule the US (maybe they always have?)

No need for external influences like demons or Russians.

Reggie VanderVeen's avatar

Loved: "These are the people in the Milgram Experiment that would have electrocuted their own loving mothers."

But, supernaturally, they would have felt bad about it. Right?

Shawn's avatar

Well if you do not watch them you will be living in a different reality than 90 percent of everyone else and that is lonely.

Reggie VanderVeen's avatar

Desmet's 10%-ers have responsibilities. Let's live up to them.

Reggie VanderVeen's avatar

They aren't doing journalism. They are doing capitalism: clicks = bucks.

Brent Nyitray's avatar

They are doing propaganda. Which they consider to be their job.

publius_x's avatar

Exactly. They aren't in the news business. They are in the politics business. They have been prepping for this since Government 101 at Hahvahd.

Dave's avatar

Yeah, it really isn’t about clicks for money, because they’re clearly failing in that respect. It’s about propaganda for the centers of power. How exactly they get enlisted into this is not entirely clear, but the Twitter files give a little peak behind the curtain.

And we know that at least with respect to Covid, they were paid directly by Uncle Sam to serve as propagandists. I’m not aware of a money trail that enlists MSM to unfailingly support the military industrial complex, but there is clearly some mechanism that exists to achieve that goal.

And I would love to see the “ex”-spooks’ tax returns. Are they just so ideologically committed to the system that they remain loyal? Or are they still raking in tax dollars to serve as propagandists and ensure their co-workers in the newsroom do the same? Lots of questions about how the MSM sausage gets made. Clicks for dollars doesn’t explain it at all.

Rightful Freedom's avatar

Yes. I'm sure that excessive devotion to capitalism is the problem at MSNBC.

Stxbuck's avatar

Too many people confuse and conflate materialism with capitalism. That has the effect of hiding the deleterious effects of the former and creating unwarranted criticism of the later. Corporate media whores are all about the perk$.

publius_x's avatar

The moment that Trump started taking away their local tax deductions from their federal taxes, was the moment they started to freak the fuck out.

Wait 'til a real populist IRS starts counting corporate limousine rides and complimentary "staff" lunches as taxable income...

Mandi!'s avatar

And not succeeding very well judging by their audience losses.

Doug Bedell's avatar

What I want to know is Who funds todays MSM outlets, subsiding and influencing reporters and coverage sub rosa. There have to be substantial financial deals with the IC / DNC. They seem deputized as confidential human resources in service of The State. Something terrible has happened to independent thought within these organisms.

SimulationCommander's avatar

It was the 'modernization' of Smith-Mundt that basically opened the door for infiltration of the media. No doubt they're getting huge checks -- not to mention the 'covid' money and their recent attempt to literally fund the 'correct' journalists out in the open.

Lisa's avatar

I saw an article in the Columbia Journalism Review some time back about how much money the Gates foundation was distributing to press organs and it was pretty mind-boggling.

Lisa's avatar

I vaguely remember NPR got 2 million.

Doug Bedell's avatar

Here is that CJR story. Incredible how much money the corporatists are spending in the name of improving journalism. It is destroying the institution it professes to rescue.

https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php

Gym+Fritz's avatar

I don’t ever watch CNN or MSNBC and I had no idea of the extent to which the intel agencies had infiltrated them (and others, I’m sure). This is insidious and just plain wrong.

How can CNN even be considered a “news” organization. We need to rethink the concept of a free press & journalism. In some ways this is worse than Pravda.

We need to call a spade a spade (I know) - CNN is a partisan propaganda organization, and they don’t belong in press conferences.

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Gail's avatar

At least whores don’t pretend to be beacons of virtue. Which is a hundred times more virtuous than the monsters claiming heroism and patriotism.

trembo slice's avatar

Your comment made me think of that CS Lewis quote about “a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims” is the most oppressive. I’m a margarita or two too deep to type it out… but worth looking up if you’re unfamiliar.

Cynicon Implant's avatar

Right on, Sasha. At least whores don't lie about who they are and what they do.

publius_x's avatar

The good expensive ones do. At least to the IRS.

Anna's avatar

What Sasha said. ⬆️

Running Burning Man's avatar

“It makes me physically ill to watch these clowns ...”

Now you sound like a triggered left wing college student at the prospect of a conservative on campus!

Danno's avatar

The best remedy is to not watch them at all, and simply get you news analysis from Substack, and you daily fix from scanning the tabloidy headlines at Citizen Free Press.

Jim M's avatar

You're lying through your teeth!

NOBODY watches them except clips kids like Matt brings us! Admit it! LOL

Sasha Stone's avatar

I can't watch them. Even when I hear them on someone else's show I fast-forward. It makes me too mad.

Dwhy's avatar

damn, I missed the circle jerk

XBarbarian's avatar

Desperate grasping by the armies of sycophantic wanna bes. Pathetic.

You know you scored, when they circle the wagons!

Well played Matt!

Charlos R.'s avatar

Basically you can tell what’s important by what they ignore. Then you can tell who’s speaking truth by who they attack. They are actually making it pretty easy.

Brad's avatar

I'm resigned to the fact that looking to the mainstream media for truth is like looking to a prostitute for love. That's no longer what the profession is about. They're propagandists.

Charlos R.'s avatar

I went from “mueller is gonna get him I’m so frickin excited” to “oh this is complete bullshit I was duped now I’m pissed” in 2 years. How many of y’all are out there?

Greg's avatar

Better late than never!

publius_x's avatar

sorry you fell for the mueller bullshit.

flipshod's avatar

I became the at-home care giver for my elderly demented mother at the beginning of 2017.

She was a life-long Democrat who only watched MSNBC and old movies.

So I saw a lot of it and figured that with all those guns pointed at him, they'd find "crimes" and thus might be able to force a resignation.

And yeah, I was rooting for that.

In general, I don't get angry watching them. They harp on stories against the Republicans the same way Fox does to Democrats (whose headlines I follow at the gym).

That dialectic is like a malign form of Yin/Yang, each creating and necessitating the other, but it serves its purpose; each side shows that the other is unfit to govern.

Gail's avatar

Touche’! The dummy Conservatives need to wake up. NOBODY who dissents from the narrative is exempt.

I’d hardly label Naomi Wolf, Russell Brand, Kim Iversen, Jimmy Dore, Majid Nawaz, Andy Ngo,Tulsi Gabbard,Lex Fridman, Bari Weiss, Michael Schellenberger,Bret Weinstein, Heather Heying, Glenn Greenwald, Joe Rogan, Aaron Rodgers, Tim Canova, Steve Kirsch,Lara Logan, Ami Horowitz, Bill Binney, Jonathan Turley, Dershowitz,Neil Oliver,Ayaan Hirsi-Al, Drs Risch, Malone, Battacharaya, Shiva, Gold, Kuldorff,Marek,Cole,Malone,Yeadon,KoryIonnides,Ladapo,,Levitt, Atlas, McCollough,Mikovits, Makary, Oswui, Smith,Hatfill or (RIP) Kary Mullis, Luc Montagnier,Zev Zelenko, Peter Pry,Phil Haney, Jim Kallstrom, Seth Rich,….Julian Assange, Andrew Yang, RFK Jr, Charles Ortleb as “ Far Rightwing White Supremacist Conspiracy Theorists”, liars, frauds …

The hysteria-mongering, hate spewing , lying , vile, vicious authoritarian tyrants are projecting.

P. Winter's avatar

You don't understand: they are "right wing" by this new definition. They need to embrace it! The new right wing is pro 1st amendment, anti war, anti-authoritarian, pro diversity of opinion (vs. the extrem superficial diversity of skin color) on college campuses, government agencies etc.etc. I obviously say that some irony. But there's a shift in the political matrix for sure. It's the liberal elites that have abandoned Liberalism. Or have they? I recommend John Mearsheimer's "The Great Delusion" with the subtitle "Liberal Dreams and International Realities".

MH's avatar

Substack has been the biggest threat to MSM. If one dares to post a link to a substack article the common refrain (fr progressive left mainly) was "unreliable" , "not legit", "opinion only" can't take a "newsletter" seriously and so on. Now substack has only grown in popularity leading to its authenticity and MSM has zero control. I can only imagine what happens in those management meetings. Journalists like Matt no longer need to butter their bread w the likes of CNN. I hope this site continues to grow and more people invest in subscriptions.

Kathleen McCook's avatar

Yes, Wikipedia will not accept links to any Substack.

michael888's avatar

Would be nice to see Substack replace State Media for most people. However we know the Federal Government has its sights on alternative/ independent media and will not tolerate opinions counter to the Official Narratives.

The spectacular US failure in handling Covid is a good example of what the Federal Government will do to control every important issue and situation.

Gail's avatar

Amen. Er.. “ Awomen”. I hope all the right, left, center come together and take down the entire disgusting evil cabal!

madaboutmd's avatar

And I've heard, "no editorial board"....which is funny cuz that's exactly the idea!

Gail's avatar

Of course! How could I possibly forget? Russell Brand had a fabulous podcast enumerating his issues and what he believed would create a more harmonious way of life. They were neither radical nor fringe. Neither left nor right. Nothing that could be remotely construed as hateful . He laid out a pragmatic, representative form of government beginning at the community level with everybody having a voice. Minus hatred. He included the quality of life that comes with spirituality whether religious, earthly or non-defined, but by conscientiously searching one’s soul to fing peace.

He was attacked so viciously that he followed up with a second podcast, again expressing his feelings, additionally spoke of the tattered life he lived with every imaginable addiction, the people he hurt along the way, taking responsibility and opening his mind, engaging with others who he may have disagreed with and learning. Just because one may see things differently does not make them bad. He concluded

“ If that makes me a “ Right Winger” then so be it. “ I’m a Right Winger”. So what does that make authoritarian, bigoted, biased , racist, illiberal, intolerant, hysterical, close-minded fist waving angry zealots blinded by hatred? Liberal?”

It was a true ba-da-bing! If two years ago someone had told me Russell Brand, Matt Taibbi,Naomi Wolf, Glenn Greenwald,would be on my hit parade, I’d have been insulted. Even though I’m not hyper-ideological right or left, the issues that I disagreed with stuck.

I began watching Tucker when he took on “ Tech Tyranny”. It was a relevant, fascinating subject that nobody else had touched. Also, it was a break from the usual sniping about the Democrats or sniping about Republicans. It was and is an incredible threat to humanity as a whole.

So Tucker had completely changed his format. He began hosting an incredibly diverse spectrum of guests and rather than picking a fight, found common ground on issues that were ignored and should not be. Even the most divisive topics somehow became less bellicose and more solvable.

Tucker embarked on the Fox Nation extensive interviews that were so interesting, respectful and without interruption.And Tucker didn’t denigrate or badger. He is able to say,” That is so interesting! I didn’t know”. “ I can see why you think that, even if I disagree”. “ Wow! I completely agree! I really appreciate knowing that”. From Victor Davis Hanson, Mike Rowe, Glenn Beck, Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, Tulsi Gabbard, Kirstie Alley, Jaco Boozman, Bret Weinstein, Kyle Rittenhouse, Matt Taibbi,JD Vance, Rose McGowan, Andrew Yang… All over the place. Save ourselves

P. Winter's avatar

The most vicious attacks go always to the ones who call BS on both parties. Tucker has evolved from a conservative, bow tie wearing GOP establishment buffoon to a thinking - and therefore more free - political commentator. That's too dangerous because he exposes the games that are being played on all sides. Trump did the same that's why he became the "biggest threat to democracy this country has ever seen"! Because he did it from the highest office in the land. People who call bs on all teams, when they see it, are "dangerous" to the power elites. And the higher in the power structure or media ladder they are sitting the more dangerous they are.

Lawyers Guns & Money's avatar

I think the labels have long been superfluous. All those people Gail mentions would probably have been called communist/left wing rabble rousers in the 60s. And you're right in that many have abandoned principles. The Left now loves war; the Right now hates the FBI. Go figure. The system doesn't care about right/left, it cares only about support for its key platforms: 1) rich people get richer; 2) endless war is not a bad thing; 3) surveillance and censorship of citizens. The system will fight anyone not with the program, whether it be Bernie, Trump, or in the day, Pat Buchanan or Dennis Kucinich. The system does not appreciate populism.

We inhabit a post-Seuss-ian, warped version of Seuss's The Sneetches. It's essentially the Sneetches on the Beaches, with an ongoing twist. The guy with the star-on-the-belly machine made a lot of quick cash, but left town when the Sneetches decided love and inclusion were better. The twist with us is that the system is still making money off us (who didn't see Maverick or Avatar? or bought something direct on a social media site? or isn't a member of Amazon Prime?). But the system is also very closely watching all us Sneetches, especially the ones on the left side of the beach who gripe about treatment of the LGBTQ community and the ones on the right side of the beach who gripe about not being able to call women Sneetches "Beetches" anymore, since it's sexist. And the system is able to keep all the Sneetches distracted and pissed off by reminding them that the other Sneetches are bad.

Wait, there are two still-accurate labels: Haves and Have-Nots.

Gail's avatar

You’re correct. Now we’re whittled down to Fascists, Communists, White Supremacists, Nazis, Putin Apologists,White Supremacists in Blackface, Russia shills, apartheid Zionists, antisemites,xenophobes, homophobes, transphobes,Islamophobes, and drumroll… Domestic Terrorists, extremists, worse than Al Qaeda and the Taliban

Note that all of the above labels cancel each other out. So if one doesn’t stick try the other. Regardless that none apply. To “ We The People”. Our Kleptocorporate multinational monopolistic sold out globalist Malthusian megalomaniacal government WEF technocracy is the enemy of everything living

Gail's avatar

Bottom line, the entire cabal hates “ We The People”. It matters not which party nor the individual.Once the veneer is stripped off, they are seen for what they really are. Corrupt, evil liars who see us all as less than human. Ironically, they see themselves as greater than human. They are gods. Untouchable and above the mere disposable peons.

The difference between McConnell and Biden? Hard to differentiate. They’re both physically repugnant, corrupt to the core, have harmed the American people and the institutions established as safeguards, lie effortlessly, are long past their expiration date and refuse to step aside, both have long profitted by selling out to China, Ukraine, Mexico, Pharma, the military industrial complex, special interests, have become filthy rich while in office, both were remarkably fond of Strom Thurmond, private prison industry,interventions , judicial activism, open borders-though Biden used to be a border hawk. Biden is decomposing in plain sight, McConnell never appeared to be alive. But yesterday, McConnell exhibited the first sign of actual excitement and energy. He actually travelled with Joe to Kentucky, enthusiastically sharing such brotherly love and self congratulatory praise on the passage of the omnibus bill . Mitch is getting a bridge! Never mind it will take three years to build and a decade to pay off the debt for the bridge alone. Never mind that the Kentucky voters are extremely angry. Their single most valuable resource which provides employment, lowered energy costs and sustains the poor and lower middle class workers… coal…is not included in the bill. It has been stripped. But Mitch received a windfall in bribes from Soros, BlackRock, FTX, Carlyle, McKinsey, Pfizer, Gates. You go Mitch! Straight to hell! With your pals Cassidy, Mitt, Lindsey,Cornyn, Burr, Wicker,Portman,Murkowski, Shelby , Xi and Zelenskyy

andy's avatar

I don't dispute anything you say. I first heard your Sneetches allegory from my brother. Nevertheless, I'm still discouraged by it because of what seems like a lack of any real energy for resistance. If you cannot walk away from what the corporatocracy is pushing at you, then they will get to call the shots forever! They do effectively own you. "Power concedes nothing without a demand." It's great that so many voices are now able to articulate what is wrong and hypocritical with our system -- I see this as super important progress over the last decade. And I have learned a lot!! But understanding can only go so far without action.

Here is my personal status wrt your "complacency checklist":

* Have never seen Maverick or Avatar. [CHECK] (I think these are movie references, yes?)

* Have never bought anything off a social media site. [CHECK] (Unless you count Substack as SM, and a subscription purchase as "buying something.")

* Not a member of Amazon Prime. [CHECK] (MUCH more than that: Never bought anything from Amazon. PERIOD. EVER!)

If even Matt Taibbi and Glenn Greenwald readers are not willing to do real resistance, then I'm pretty sure things will continue in the same direction. More of the same, just louder.

Anyone else tired of watching and waiting? Maybe reply here as a start.

calcuttakid's avatar

agree. always tension between people and property. democrats used to (in some capacity) endorse the former. sometime around the clinton administration the democrats abandoned the people and now we have stagnation as neither party represents the people. the middle class is dying, upward mobility is a joke, and good luck buying a home. this will not end well.

Gail's avatar

Oh, but I do understand. Rightwing has always been used as a pejorative. It immediately conjures up images of Nazis, White Supremacists, fringe conspiracy theorists or the most rigid , judgmental, religious Fundamentalists. Regardless of the fact the most tyrannical fascists are either atheist, Islamist and in many cases, ignorant . Which is what they’ve become.

Supportive of the Police State, surveillance, endless war, discrimination, segregation, infanticide, political prisoners, the Patriot Act, censorship, forced medical procedures, child abuse, predation, violence, humiliation, unequal justice, removal of basic civil rights, releasing violent recidivist crimson on an unsuspecting public to reoffend, banning safe, long approved, repurposed, cheap, effective life saving therapeutics, prophylactics and curative medication and treatment, cheering for lockdowns, masks, forced unproven dangerous gene therapy as “ vaccines”, censoring science and debate. , approval of asset forfeiture, crushing small businesses, ripping friends and family apart, turning neighbor against neighbor

Nobody's avatar

They have to be considered right wing. The talking heads can't claim to hold a centrist position on an issue with bipartisan support.

Chris's avatar

All in good company. I would add Jordan Peterson, Glen Lowery , Bret Weinstein, Elon Musk and Sam Harris was on his way were it not for his TDS that saved him.

P. Winter's avatar

Chris, I personally always thought that Harris was a lightweight who came into the spotlight only thru his proximity to the extremely polished and courageous Christopher Hitchens. The contemporary regurgitation of the philosophical atheist debates of the 19th century was, in my humble view, rather a snooze fest. Sam Harris, unlike Hitchens who was a true man of letters, fell deeply in love with listening to himself talk. An intellectual bullshitter he finally revealed himself as an arrogant elitist who dispises commoners, and who sees himself as a very worthy chaperone in charge of guarding our precious democracy.

Gail's avatar

Like comparing Bertrand Russell to George Soros.

Jay Fruin's avatar

I scratched Sam Harris off my list about a year ago. His TDS now defines him and drowns out anything else he has to say.

Gail's avatar

He is insane. Actually stated he was fine with promoting egregious falsehoods if the desired outcome aligned with his . Absolutely unacceptable and unconscionable. Which appears to be the growing norm.

Gail's avatar

Bret Weinstein is such a decent and brave soul. I’ve always liked Elon.He’s brilliant, unique, quirky and witty. He’s proven to be the bravest of all. I’ve never witnessed or even imagined private citizens who dared step outside the box face such vicious, massive threats and attacks from the media, political class, White House, Deep State, DAVOS and the global apparatchiks in concert… simultaneously fawning over China, Tedros, Faustus,Bill Gates Klaus Schwab, the CIA,FBI,Military Industrial Complex, Pharma, Maduro and Islamist terrorists… and the Churchillian hero, St. Volodymir Zelenskyy with his merry band of Nazis in tow

Tim's avatar

Jordan Peterson??.. I would have to add him to Sam Harris me thinks.

Gail's avatar

Jordan Petersen is honest. He has integrity. One needn’t align with his ideology, but it isn’t fair to impugn his character. He is completely decent. And brave. Unlike the duopoly of shitheels spanning the aisle of duplicitous duopolous bastards. Among those on the “ right”, the Bushwhacks Marc Thiessen, David French, Jonah Goldberg, Steven Hayes, Norman Podhoretz, George Conway, Max Boot, George Will- sanctimonious shitheels.

The NYT and WaPo are so over the top insane as to be truly frightening.

P. Winter's avatar

I find Jordan Peterson a bit more credible, given his Clinical Psychology scholar background. Reality perception, manifestation of realities and sense making, survival of cultural signifiers thru time etc. are all difficult subjects but Jordan has done some really interesting academic work in that area. His recent books and lectures are obviously more of a pedestrian though not irrelevant nature. Sam Harris has never produced anything original in his field. My take, anyway. :)

Charles Newlin's avatar

Thanks for the list. That might be useful. I know some of them, of course, but far from all.

Interestingly, it cover a very wide ideological spectrum.

Nobody's avatar

If everyone on the left who deviates from MSM groupthink isn't reclassified as right wing, then sooner or later it will become apparent that the dissent has broad bipartisan support. And if that happens the talking heads can no longer claim to hold the coveted "sensible" centrist position, for they would be the ones taking a non-mainstream extremist position. The relabeling is all about controlling public perception and discourse.

Rightful Freedom's avatar

"You only start taking heavy flak when you're getting near the target."

WWII RAF Bomber Command veteran in a letter to Nigel Farage in 2014

deathcap's avatar

And now I know where that quote came from. I always liked that one.

Dwhy's avatar

lol, who are you calling sycophant, sycophant?

Pathetic is right.

Pemulis_DMZ's avatar

Reading Taibbi, I feel like the little kid in the school yard, standing behind the cool guy who can actually stand up to a bully and do it well. And I shout "yeah get 'em, Matt!". It feels good.

Phillynomics's avatar

When MSNBC puts out a hit piece on three of the sources I trust the most, I know I am getting my information from the right places.

The cognitive dissonance of these folks is downright comical.

Rich Smith's avatar

If mainstream media organizations were really trustworthy news reporters instead of shills who regurgitate the latest establishment narrative, they would be investigating and publishing their own pieces on the Twitter Files. The fact that they are reacting with talking points instead of curiosity confirms that they cannot be trusted. Not that they don’t get a lot of things right, but it is mixed with who knows how much propaganda. As a result, we all have to question and doubt everything they say.

Dwhy's avatar

Have you considered the possibility that most people just *gasp* don't give a shit about Twitter?

Dwhy's avatar

Is that a joke? You know Twitter is for old people now, right?

vladROBOT 🪱's avatar

Spot 🎯 on ‼️❗️

Brad's avatar

And these sneering bluenoses wonder why they have such a richly deserved credibility problem with a massive swath of the country.

SimulationCommander's avatar

"Why does nobody trust us any more?"

It certainly couldn't be the constant lying and lying about the lying!

Dwhy's avatar

I mean, you're not wrong necessarily. At the risk of doing a whataboutism, though... if you view dishonesty and lack of credibility as mainly left-wing problems, I have to ask where your head has been for the last 20 years of US politics.

My apologies if I just happened to miss all the comments where you slam Trump and his cronies for all their lies, graft, and double-think.

marlon1492's avatar

So true! However, in this particular situation, it was the current administration that ramped up the censorship.

Not to worry though, the next swing of the pendulum will have the republicans in power at which point they will try to do these things.

This is why the constitution is so important: we need checks and balances and we need a bill of rights to protect us from these predations.

Dwhy's avatar

Absolutely agree. This is why I'm so disappointed that Matt took the bait and now exclusively slings mud at the left.

That said, at present I'm more concerned about the fringes (yes, on both sides) and their ability to ideologically isolate and radicalize the people in their orbit. The constitution has no remedy for that, and Taibbi is unquestionably at the forefront of feeding people into the right wing of that system.

Dwhy's avatar

What's worse? Lying, or being a pro-Russian hack who can't get basic historical facts straight?

I'd call you a shill if I could imagine anyone hiring you.

SimulationCommander's avatar

When I look at your 'Stack, I see "tens of thousands of paid subscribers".

I don't see that on the 'Stacks of drone reporters, and for good reason -- the value of their reporting is basically zero because they only repeat what they've been told to say. OF COURSE they aren't covering the Twitter Files, because there's also a CBS Files and an ABC Files, etc.........and government is still in control of those places.

Scuba Cat's avatar

Haha, the paid version of CNN died within a month, proving that no one wants to pay to be propagandized.

Reggie VanderVeen's avatar

Dang you, SimulationCommandor. We meant to say that.

Dwhy's avatar

This is the saddest suck-up job I've seen in these comments so far, and that is no small feat.

You think Matt wants a thousand drooling morons slobbing his knob every time he puts pen to paper? Because that's how good writers become bad writers.

Dwhy's avatar

Calling someone a troll just because they disagree with you is a symptom of extreme ignorance. It used to be that only lefty snowflakes would stoop to that tactic... I guess that says a lot about where the right is at these days.

The truth hurts, dummy.

SimulationCommander's avatar

No I call you a troll because I can read your comments up and down this thread -- none of them adding anything at all to the conversation.

Matt gets tens of thousands of subscribers because he writes shit worth reading. MSM 'Stackers do not, because they don't. The facts remain the facts no matter what you say about them.

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damn, I missed the circle jerk

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lol, who are you calling sycophant, sycophant?

Pathetic is right.

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What's worse? Lying, or being a pro-Russian hack who can't get basic historical facts straight?

I'd call you a shill if I could imagine anyone hiring you.

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Matt's following seems to be about 98% brain-dead conservatives these days... even calling him a lefty anymore is a stretch.

...but don't let me interrupt your jerk session.

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Just a taste of your 'contributions' to the thread.

Daniel Patrick Pennell's avatar

Between the woke takeover of universities and the takeover of media by the intelligence community I am starting to feel like I live in some version of Soviet Russia.

TWC's avatar

Its certainly nothing like the Soviet era, presently, but its also certainly the American version of that same phenomenon. Which we would do VERY WELL to keep an eye on....

The Unhedged Capitalist's avatar

You should check out the book Nothing is True and Everything is Possible. I wrote a review of it here with some great quotes from the book

https://theunhedgedcapitalist.substack.com/p/book-review-nothing-is-true-and-everything

Basically it shows how the corruption and non-reality of society happened first in Russia starting in the early 21st century, and then spread to the west eventually. It's a fascinating story and reads like a novel, although it's all true. I've been reading a lot about Russia lately since the parallels to our own situation are so striking.

Tom Taylor's avatar

Thanks for the word “kayfabe”. It really puts this all in context.

The Unhedged Capitalist's avatar

Kayfabe is the perfect word to sum up our world. All about the image/appearance, nothing about substance. Biden has just said he wants to ban gas stoves to solve climate change. OK... Is that a serious thing, or just kayfabe to play well with his followers on the broadkast television каннелы...

Our world is quite strange right now

marlon1492's avatar

It is a good word and so useful these days

Basenji7's avatar

Thx! i will certainly get this book.

Lisa Brunette's avatar

That’s really interesting--I’ve been reading of these same parallels elsewhere, such as the work of Dmitri Orlov.

Stxbuck's avatar

Thanks for the recommendation.

The Unhedged Capitalist's avatar

You're welcome. It's an addicting book, I read it in about 6 days

ADC's avatar

Welcome to the American Cultural Revolution.

No Use For a Band/Name's avatar

Dirty pool, Deep State! But it’s kinda peak 21st Century that the only rebuttal these empty-headed shills have to Matt’s journalism is essentially “I know you are but what am I?”

Sadly there are still lots of old people who loyally watch that MSM shit and believe the propaganda. And the Pelosi “documentary”... I need to go vomit until I feel clean again. Keep up the good work Mr. Taibbi.

Charles Newlin's avatar

Plenty o fold people readiing Matt and Glenn. Some of us noticed that authority could not be trusted; no, it CAN be trusted, to lie. I consider that a chief lesson of my now-long life.

Dave's avatar

“Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty”

- Goebbels (supposedly)

We are living in the age of shadow projection.

Henry D. Wolfe's avatar

One thing for certain: Not a single one of these individuals deserves to claim membership in the profession of journalism.

publius_x's avatar

Journalism <> Reporting.

Journalism is a made up term of art to compare the business of dressing up in a suit and sitting at a desk wearing makeup and reading a teleprompter to the businesses of LAW and MEDICINE. They don't have reporting school, they have JOURNALISM school. It's completely made up shit.

SimulationCommander's avatar

I see it this way: Journalism is an ACTION, not a profession.

raa's avatar

I had an LOL reading this article. Here is Matt a lefty, however unlike the MSM lefties he mentioned, his followers, even conservatives like me, actually trust and believe his writings are based on facts you can bet money on. I’m really looking forward how he will report on all the proposed House investigations. My bet is he’ll stick to honest and truthful reporting wherever the Chios might fall.

IndependentThinker's avatar

Same here. I'm conservative (actually more libertarian), and I have come to highly respect Matt's journalism. In fact, he is one of the VERY few journalists whom I trust.

Stxbuck's avatar

Libertarians are the new moderates in our crazy new political spectrum, imo.

Dave's avatar

I would describe myself as a libertarian now. Not because I find Ayn Rand, Hayek, etc., persuasive, but because I’ve come to realize on a profound level that the psychopaths always, ALWAYS, seize the ring of power, the one ring that rules them all. The only solution is to cast it into the fires of Mount Doom.

Peacelady's avatar

I would be one of Matt’s lefty followers (for many years) who think the liberal faux lefties have lost their GD minds. It’s like watching “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” in real time. I’m glad Matt has followers of different political persuasions. It shows he sticks to the evidence regardless of where it leads. A real journalist.

publius_x's avatar

Speaking of betting money... ever notice that the only thing that the government won't let you bet on in this country now is elections?

Everything other sin is now legal. Sports gambling, weed smoking, shoplifting, setting fire to police stations, defecating in the streets of major cities... no foul.

But opening a electoral prediction betting exchange? ILLEGAL. Why is that?

William Taylor's avatar

They're trying to protect you from losing money because the game is fixed!

DarkSkyBest's avatar

The Presidential ballot harvesting has already begun. 'Just waiting to fill in the blank of the nominee. (Light the candle, Joe!)

Dwhy's avatar

Matt's following seems to be about 98% brain-dead conservatives these days... even calling him a lefty anymore is a stretch.

...but don't let me interrupt your jerk session.

Brdcstr's avatar

For a guy who claims cannot want to interrupt church sessions, you sure are posting a lot in this thread. I believe Matt struck a nerve. It’s sad watching a little boy reduced to nothing more than vapid ad hominems…proving once again that the last line of defense for a tired mind with no argument remaining are personal insults.

Dwhy's avatar

Church sessions? huh? Are you having a stroke? Do you need medical help?

Brdcstr's avatar

Ha ha…auto correct. ‘Jerk sessions’ was what you said you allegedly didn’t want to interrupt…but you just can’t quit us - or this thread. The jig is up. You’ve been exposed for the frauds many of us knew you leftists were all along…and it took a liberal like Matt to remove your masks for you.

Feral Finster's avatar

So wait a minute: by exposing government efforts to control the narrative, Taibbi is leading people *to* authoritarianism?!?

Sayasaywhat?!?

Stxbuck's avatar

Newspeak in the house…

Dwhy's avatar

I'm guessing their logic goes like this: "Matt relentlessly hammers the left, while conveniently ignoring or minimizing the right's insane spiral into anti-democratic authoritarianism; therefore, Matt is leading people to authoritarianism"

I'm not saying you have to agree with it, but let's not play dumb about what the argument is.

marlon1492's avatar

I read their argument as: our followers are leaving us!

And I think the issue is that our followers are leaving us because we are headed in the wrong direction.

Dwhy's avatar

"I read their argument as: our followers are leaving us!"

Okay, but that's your interpretation (and quite an extrapolation at that). You must admit that not everyone shares it.

Anyway, how is that different from "whaaaah, the MSM is trying to make me look bad for siding with Russia on the Ukraine war and running interference for Trump"? Turnabout is fair play... if Taibbi didn't want to be criticized by MSM, he should think twice about taking pro-authoritarian stances.

Feral Finster's avatar

I don't think that the right are the ones leveraging Big Tech, which is the point of his reporting. For that matter, The Squad aren't, either.

Dwhy's avatar

Okay, but now you're moving the goalposts. It's completely fair to say that Taibbi is funneling people into right-wing authoritarian echo chambers... big tech can be a piece of that, but it doesn't have to.

Feral Finster's avatar

Pointing out that the government is censoring and actively disinforming the citizenry is now "funneling people into right-wing echo chambers."

Whatever next....

Rayner86's avatar

“Those who are capable of tyranny are capable of perjury to sustain it.”

― Lysander Spooner

SimulationCommander's avatar

*also applies to stealing elections

Lillia Gajewski's avatar

Once upon a time, you could tell the quality of a person by his friends. Today, it's by his enemies. And by that standard, you're definitely one of the good ones.

And it's not gall or nerve. It's desperation.

Skeptic's avatar

I wish I were confident it's desperation. But they may just be coolly fulfilling their assigned functions, knowing they have captured virtually all relevant institutions, assured that they can never be held accountable. MiniTrue was not desperate.

Lillia Gajewski's avatar

I understand where you're coming from. But given the way they are hemorrhaging viewership, I want desperately (that word again) to believe that they are reacting so ridiculously because they feel the control slipping away.

kleenbreeze's avatar

I hear you, they have accomplished so much in 6 years they must feel confident.

"they were the best and brightest, and they were wrong"

Dwhy's avatar

You should read Hate Inc. sometime.

Defining yourself by your enemies is still not a sign of virtue.

Lillia Gajewski's avatar

Yourself, no, but as a way to judge the value of taking precious time to listen to someone else speak in a world full of noise, knowing who would silence them (read: their enemies) is a handy way to begin to start to winnow the wheat from the chaff.

Dwhy's avatar

For some reason, the phrase "mental gymnastics" just kept springing into my head as I read this comment.

Lillia Gajewski's avatar

I'm not sure why. It's written in plain English.

EAC's avatar

I would call it a temper tantrum. They are throwing a fit because they can’t control the narrative and they don’t have a substantive, constructive way to react.

Stxbuck's avatar

That’s the woke way of reaction. They can’t control the narrative based on facts/reality, so they resort to childish emotional blackmail.

Spacelord's avatar

The Good Will Hunting clip was perfect! Made up names for “intelligence” 😂 ghouls pretending to be experts on themselves...yes, what a joke

Chozehn's avatar

Brothers in journalism.

Annabelle Lee's avatar

Matt Taibbi you are awesome and never forget it.