Can you provide some evidence to back this up? I normally don't ask for evidence on message boards like this, but as a regular reader of rightwing forums, your claim is contrary to my experience. I recall the same as Matt is saying: it sort of cropped up all of a sudden, and the consensus among regular posters was there was no way it was organic.
Can you provide some evidence to back this up? I normally don't ask for evidence on message boards like this, but as a regular reader of rightwing forums, your claim is contrary to my experience. I recall the same as Matt is saying: it sort of cropped up all of a sudden, and the consensus among regular posters was there was no way it was organic.
Sorry, I missed that part. So the best I can offer is my anecdotal experience that this stuff appeared very suddenly on 4chan and other similar forums, that it was widely rejected and ridiculed as a government operation there. A small group of guys wearing a patch on the shoulder does not negate my claim--but I acknowledge my claim is hopelessly unfalsifiable.
No, and a lot of forums have since been shut down. You could still go to 4chan any time though, and just ask what they think of the Boogaloo Boys. The reaction I would expect is a lot of derision and people accusing you of being an FBI agent.
I should clarify: I'm speaking specifically about the "Boogaloo Boys", i.e. a group going by that moniker. That's also the group Matt was referring to, and I thought it was who you were referring to when you referred to a "they" as in a specific group of people.
I believe the group "Boogaloo Boys" is a government operation. If your claim is only that the term "boogaloo" was in common use prior to that (as described in the article you linked), we have no disagreement.
Any evidence on hand that supports your "feeling" that the boogie boys are merely a fun street gang of feds? Or it just that, a "feeling," wholly unrelated to the world of researched evidence and corroborated facts?
I described my only evidence two posts up. That is, the very social milieu one would expect to be knowledgeable about them rejected them at the time they emerged, and warned all readers that it was a honey pot.
That's still not close to being definitive evidence that they aren't what they say they are. Merely another philosophically like-minded subset with a "hunch." Let me know when somebody rubs the "honey pot" and G-Men genies emerge. Then we'll talk. Not saying you're wrong, but....
My claim is that there appeared to be an orchestrated campaign for the Boogaloo Boys on several popular rightwing forums, and that it was widely dismissed as a "glowie" op by the people on those forums. And yes, when guys showed up wearing those silly badges (and elsewhere wearing Hawaiian shirts), the consensus was those were FBI agents. Were they right or wrong? I don't know. I'm just saying they don't have much legitimacy on popular rightwing forums.
Don't get too invested in the notion that the intel agencies support the right and subvert the left. The real picture is surely more complicated than that.
Can you provide some evidence to back this up? I normally don't ask for evidence on message boards like this, but as a regular reader of rightwing forums, your claim is contrary to my experience. I recall the same as Matt is saying: it sort of cropped up all of a sudden, and the consensus among regular posters was there was no way it was organic.
Sorry, I missed that part. So the best I can offer is my anecdotal experience that this stuff appeared very suddenly on 4chan and other similar forums, that it was widely rejected and ridiculed as a government operation there. A small group of guys wearing a patch on the shoulder does not negate my claim--but I acknowledge my claim is hopelessly unfalsifiable.
No, and a lot of forums have since been shut down. You could still go to 4chan any time though, and just ask what they think of the Boogaloo Boys. The reaction I would expect is a lot of derision and people accusing you of being an FBI agent.
Well, if the boys and girls of 4chan say it, it must be holy writ! Gospel shit! Moses-on-the-mountain-top shit. Holy shit!
I should clarify: I'm speaking specifically about the "Boogaloo Boys", i.e. a group going by that moniker. That's also the group Matt was referring to, and I thought it was who you were referring to when you referred to a "they" as in a specific group of people.
I believe the group "Boogaloo Boys" is a government operation. If your claim is only that the term "boogaloo" was in common use prior to that (as described in the article you linked), we have no disagreement.
Any evidence on hand that supports your "feeling" that the boogie boys are merely a fun street gang of feds? Or it just that, a "feeling," wholly unrelated to the world of researched evidence and corroborated facts?
I described my only evidence two posts up. That is, the very social milieu one would expect to be knowledgeable about them rejected them at the time they emerged, and warned all readers that it was a honey pot.
That's still not close to being definitive evidence that they aren't what they say they are. Merely another philosophically like-minded subset with a "hunch." Let me know when somebody rubs the "honey pot" and G-Men genies emerge. Then we'll talk. Not saying you're wrong, but....
Ok thanks for sharing your thoughts. Cheers.
My claim is that there appeared to be an orchestrated campaign for the Boogaloo Boys on several popular rightwing forums, and that it was widely dismissed as a "glowie" op by the people on those forums. And yes, when guys showed up wearing those silly badges (and elsewhere wearing Hawaiian shirts), the consensus was those were FBI agents. Were they right or wrong? I don't know. I'm just saying they don't have much legitimacy on popular rightwing forums.
Don't get too invested in the notion that the intel agencies support the right and subvert the left. The real picture is surely more complicated than that.