Here's an impressively detailed debunking effort by Caitlin Johnstone. She's "fringe" as political commentators go, but she's difficult to disagree with.
Here's an impressively detailed debunking effort by Caitlin Johnstone. She's "fringe" as political commentators go, but she's difficult to disagree with.
Opposition to mainstream thought. To quote a recent article of hers, "Most of my writing revolves in some way around the idea that we as a collective need to fight to wake each other up to realityтАУand to the lies weтАЩre being fed about itтАУbefore itтАЩs too late....Our task therefore is to disrupt the establishment propaganda machine and find creative ways to pass messages to each other through the cracks in the narrative matrix."
So let's say that Johnstone is a kook. I'll accept that Assange is kooky as well. But being a kook can't, by itself, make a person's arguments, ideas, or actions wrong. Correct?
The rape charge I was referring to is this accusation: "The following morning, she claims, he had sex with her again while she was still asleep, and this time he did not use a condom. " https://gwynnedyer.com/2010/the-accusations-against-assange/
Your source says she was half-asleep. The article on which we are commenting says Assange was accused of sexual assault. The description above describes rape, we can agree on that, right?
Your source seems to rely heavily on the argument that the FBI has the motive and ability to smear Assange, so that's what happened. Then, it deconstructs AA's behavior to assert that what she describes as assault was consensual. Does it really make sense that international spies conspired to smear Assange by offering him up Swedish femme-fatales who spin ambiguous sex tales that seem to lie on the border between douchebaggery and rape?
How many children does Assange actually have? Considering that both of these women allege he ejaculated inside them without their explicit consent, it would be nice if he would make that as transparent as he wants our governments to be.
For the record, I support wikileaks and I hope that they don't extradite Assange, I just think the man is a piece of shit.
I'll agree with most of that. But here's one thing I want to push back on:
"Does it really make sense that international spies conspired to smear Assange by offering him up Swedish femme-fatales who spin ambiguous sex tales that seem to lie on the border between douchebaggery and rape?"
I'm willing to suppose that SW and AA aren't James BondтАУtype femme fatales, and Assange simply fell afoul of justified rape/assault charges. Even then, I hope you'd agree that the United States could reasonably be expected to use Assange's charges as an pretext for nabbing him.
SW doesn't seem to act the part of an international spy. But AA's case appears more complicated. She didn't warn SW away from him; and she's the one who convinced SW to speak with police afterward. From an old, archived Counterpunch article:
"She has ties to the US-financed anti-Castro and anti-communist groups. She published her anti-Castro diatribes (see here and here) in the Swedish-language publication Revista de Asignaturas Cubanas put out by Miscel├бneas de Cuba. From Oslo, Professor Michael Seltzer points out that this periodical is the product of a well-financed anti-Castro organization in Sweden. He further notes that the group is connected with Union Liberal Cubana led by Carlos Alberto Montaner whose CIA ties were exposed here."
(The "here"s above lead to further links, whose claims I can't really judge for veracity.)
That's enough evidence for Craig Murray to imply that she's a CIA asset. Though I value his opinion, I also realize he's a friend of Assange's, and more than a little biased.
"Often I sat in large groups and listened to Julian boast about how many children he had fathered in various parts of the world," Domschiet-Berg claimed.
"He seemed to enjoy the idea of lots and lots of Julians, one on every continent. Whether he took care of any of these alleged children, or whether they existed at all, was another question."
According to police documents, another witness claimed that Assange had "at least" four children. It is unknown where the children are located or who their mothers are.
Here's an impressively detailed debunking effort by Caitlin Johnstone. She's "fringe" as political commentators go, but she's difficult to disagree with.
https://caityjohnstone.medium.com/assange-smear-2-hes-a-rapist-df9effd8b49d
Caitlin maybe be fringe but she has some profound insights and uses sound sources.
"she has some profound insights and uses sound sources."
So what makes her "fringe?"
Opposition to mainstream thought. To quote a recent article of hers, "Most of my writing revolves in some way around the idea that we as a collective need to fight to wake each other up to realityтАУand to the lies weтАЩre being fed about itтАУbefore itтАЩs too late....Our task therefore is to disrupt the establishment propaganda machine and find creative ways to pass messages to each other through the cracks in the narrative matrix."
She's not. I was just going a long with the crowd.....
So let's say that Johnstone is a kook. I'll accept that Assange is kooky as well. But being a kook can't, by itself, make a person's arguments, ideas, or actions wrong. Correct?
The rape charge I was referring to is this accusation: "The following morning, she claims, he had sex with her again while she was still asleep, and this time he did not use a condom. " https://gwynnedyer.com/2010/the-accusations-against-assange/
Your source says she was half-asleep. The article on which we are commenting says Assange was accused of sexual assault. The description above describes rape, we can agree on that, right?
Your source seems to rely heavily on the argument that the FBI has the motive and ability to smear Assange, so that's what happened. Then, it deconstructs AA's behavior to assert that what she describes as assault was consensual. Does it really make sense that international spies conspired to smear Assange by offering him up Swedish femme-fatales who spin ambiguous sex tales that seem to lie on the border between douchebaggery and rape?
How many children does Assange actually have? Considering that both of these women allege he ejaculated inside them without their explicit consent, it would be nice if he would make that as transparent as he wants our governments to be.
For the record, I support wikileaks and I hope that they don't extradite Assange, I just think the man is a piece of shit.
I'll agree with most of that. But here's one thing I want to push back on:
"Does it really make sense that international spies conspired to smear Assange by offering him up Swedish femme-fatales who spin ambiguous sex tales that seem to lie on the border between douchebaggery and rape?"
I'm willing to suppose that SW and AA aren't James BondтАУtype femme fatales, and Assange simply fell afoul of justified rape/assault charges. Even then, I hope you'd agree that the United States could reasonably be expected to use Assange's charges as an pretext for nabbing him.
SW doesn't seem to act the part of an international spy. But AA's case appears more complicated. She didn't warn SW away from him; and she's the one who convinced SW to speak with police afterward. From an old, archived Counterpunch article:
http://web.archive.org/web/20120327060410/http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/09/14/assange-beseiged/
"She has ties to the US-financed anti-Castro and anti-communist groups. She published her anti-Castro diatribes (see here and here) in the Swedish-language publication Revista de Asignaturas Cubanas put out by Miscel├бneas de Cuba. From Oslo, Professor Michael Seltzer points out that this periodical is the product of a well-financed anti-Castro organization in Sweden. He further notes that the group is connected with Union Liberal Cubana led by Carlos Alberto Montaner whose CIA ties were exposed here."
(The "here"s above lead to further links, whose claims I can't really judge for veracity.)
That's enough evidence for Craig Murray to imply that she's a CIA asset. Though I value his opinion, I also realize he's a friend of Assange's, and more than a little biased.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/09/why-i-am-convinced-that-anna-ardin-is-a-liar/
"Often I sat in large groups and listened to Julian boast about how many children he had fathered in various parts of the world," Domschiet-Berg claimed.
"He seemed to enjoy the idea of lots and lots of Julians, one on every continent. Whether he took care of any of these alleged children, or whether they existed at all, was another question."
According to police documents, another witness claimed that Assange had "at least" four children. It is unknown where the children are located or who their mothers are.
https://www.mamamia.com.au/julian-assange-kids/