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TeeJae's avatar

Why? Hegseth does indeed have a tattoo of that word (in Arabic) on his right bicep.

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Bryan J. B.'s avatar

Ah, thank you for pointing that out! I actually was not aware he had a tattoo that said that.

That being said, I don't really care that he does, but I'll go back and continue reading the comment

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MajorSensible's avatar

Because how is it relevant to anything other than as an ad hominem attack?

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TeeJae's avatar

Pointing out someone's tattoos, and how they reflect that person's beliefs, is not an ad hominem. In Hegseth's case, it reflects his Islamophobia, which many would consider problematic for a Secretary of State.

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MajorSensible's avatar

Please also tell me how alleged islamophobia is relevant to a debate between the US and China over Panama.

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TeeJae's avatar

You'd have to ask Karla. It was her comment.

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MajorSensible's avatar

You are the one who used the word "islamophobia"

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TeeJae's avatar

It was implied in hers.

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MajorSensible's avatar

Implied in hers, and explicit in yours.

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TeeJae's avatar

I was making her implication explicit.

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MajorSensible's avatar

First of all, he is SecDef, not SecState.

Secondly, such a tattoo is not islamophobia, it is a badge of defiance adopted among warfighters esp. in the Iraq war. Many Soldiers / Marines wore unofficial "infidel" patches / stickers such as the Major League Infidel logo adapted from Major League Baseball.

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TeeJae's avatar

Typo, I meant DefSec. A "badge of defiance"? Against who?

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MajorSensible's avatar

Against islamist extremists who frequently called Coalition forces тАЬinfidelsтАЭ and тАЬcrusadersтАЭ.

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TeeJae's avatar

As well as the non-extremist Iraqi (and Afghani) civilians who (RIGHTFULLY) called the US government and military leadership interventionists; THOUSANDS of whom our forces needlessly murdered.

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MajorSensible's avatar

Again I ask, what relevance is that to a dispute between the US and China over Panama?

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TeeJae's avatar

And again I say, ask Karla.

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MajorSensible's avatar

Again, you are the one using those words, do you just not want to admit you are both making and supporting ad hominem?

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TeeJae's avatar

I'm doing neither, so there's nothing to admit.

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