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BookWench's avatar

This sounds incredibly authoritarian to me.

Why does the government have any right to approve potential students?

The school should be able to check its applicants against a list generated by the government, to see whether they're suspected terrorists, but that's it.

We all know they'll be going over everyone's social media posts in search of anything critical of Israel, or supportive of Palestinians. (Notice I wrote "Palestinians," not "Hamas.")

This is absurd.

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TwoWeeksOfVinegar's avatar

“Why does the government have any right to approve potential students?”

I mean, isn’t that what the immigration system is?

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BookWench's avatar

Yes, but it should be separate from the university, and I don’t like the idea of scrutinizing everyone’s social media posts, either.

Approval of students should be done by the universities, not the government.

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TwoWeeksOfVinegar's avatar

It is separate from the university. They have to get approved by both. And FWIW, the increase in social media vetting is not confined to students.

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Ashe's avatar

Is there proof the social media vetting has increased? It would be difficult for it to be worse than it was under the Biden administration, where social media posts were blocked and changed at government request on a daily basis. There was clearly covert censorship. Looking at social media posts that may indicate a threat within the United States or to its allies does not seem the same as actually actively changing what can be heard and seen online. Please explain what you mean by increased.

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TwoWeeksOfVinegar's avatar

Just vetting, not censorship. No one is changing what anyone is posting, certainly not as a matter of policy.

"Looking at social media posts that may indicate a threat within the United States or to its allies" <--- This is precisely what the stated reason is.

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Ashe's avatar

Matt should do a timeline on this including the patriot act, and then spying on Americans private phone calls while the CIA testifies to Congress they’re not, then imprisoning and exiling the whistleblowers (until Trump pardons them), and include his work on Biden era CISA disinformation centers, Twitter files, Stanford, integrity, project, etc…., investigating every American, who was near the capital or spoke to those people using AI, including anyone who bought guns, etc…,Bari Weiss and team investigating the disassembling and defunding of the structures, used to block and change Biden‘s preferred narratives on many topics, HUNTER Biren laptop, Covid, election interference, etc. I guess this last one bothers me a lot more than the government looking at social media posts. It seems like if something like 9/11 were to happen again, and the government hadn’t been looking at foreign a nationals in the country, we would all wonder what they’ve been doing. However, when they begin to influence what Americans are saying on social media the line is definitely crossed from security to control. Hopefully they are indeed defunding those structures, as well as not participating in Biden era censorship.

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Shelley's avatar

Your comment and the below reply comments do not jive with the DHS's request. There is such a thing as a Student and Exchange Visitor Program certification (from the gov). Noem said that if Harvard does not provide DHS with Harvard’s information pertaining to illegal and violent activities of its foreign student visa holders it will yank Harvard’s certification.

There are certain requirements for certification holder related to the Fed Gov’s duty to keep Americans safe. The Gov wants their records for only those foreign students that has engaged in illegal and/or violent activities. That’s all.

Harvard has been a Jew hating school for almost 100 years. It brought in Nazis academics in the 1930’s. There is nothing new under the sun.

Not only did O or B not care about national security they went out of their way to sabotage it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9MAWXaxMb4

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