We were told in no uncertain terms that one could not mention anything other than guns in response to the Annunciation Catholic shooting. The shooter's delusions were off-limits.
Now we're told that the killer's mental health is the only relevant aspect of this story, and any law-enforcement angles (and the killer's overt racism) are off-limits. One wonders how coverage would shift if Iryna Zarutska was shot instead of being stabbed!
The difference between Jordan Neely and Decarlos Brown is one Daniel Penny, and the Left hates Penny and laments his exoneration. Even George Floyd was on the path to becoming Decarlos Brown, and we have to look at his big ugly mug on murals all over the country now.
But the real problem isn't that these repeat offenders roam free. It's the cocktail of identity politics, non-agency, resentment, and permissiveness that has increased the number of Decarlos Browns in our society by orders of magnitude over what it could be.
There is no cure for Trump derangement syndrome. It is astonishing to watch people in the grip of this fever beclown themselves while denying he has any effect on them at all.
No he's not off his rocker. He is a willful amoral pathogen serving the avaricious malignant narcissism of the rigged game perpetrators dismantling the American Republic. He lies, knows he's lying and will continue to lie.
Agreed. Pritzker is not emotional but opportunistic and calculated with an angle.
Want a hoot? Do a search on "Pritzker Capone" or "Pritzker Giancana" or similar.
Abram Pritzker (grandfather to JB and Penny -- Obama's fairy godmother) was a tax attorney and started the Pritzker fortune. Was known to the FBI. Take a guess who his clients included.
Apparently, Abram was able to offshore a bunch of the Pritzker fortune prior to the implementation of reporting rules so no-one knows how much money they have.
People r being lied to by MSM. My neighbor claims that Florida banned Anne franks diary. He said the ladies of liberty r holocaust deniers. It took a few minutes to pull up the whole story and it was Anne Frank the graphic novel that was removed from school libraries because it minimized the holocaust . Totally different.
I found it amusing when someone wondered out loud after the Annunciation shooting if trans individuals shouldn't be allowed to own guns....the biggest previous gun grabbers all of the sudden became 2nd Amendment proponents
And--while "the princess and the prince discuss what is real and what is not" the grift stuffs its pockets and heads off to the Hamptons for a Fall vacation. Trans-TDS--guns--murder-war-money--tra la la la la.
I'd say there's a miniscule portion of those who declare themselves to be trans-sexual who are genuinely insane.
However, since the he/she phenomenon has been folded into the left's politics of "liberation," otherwise normal people play dress-up and, worst of all, many groom their children into believing they are occupying bodies with the wrong genitals. It is especially prevalent among the more affluent and among Hollywood celebrities. It's also become a popular form of adolescent rebellion that the political movement encourages. I think the statistics that show the explosion in numbers of people declaring themselves trans-sexual supports this assertion.
It's a form of mass hysteria that has been politicized, and now a militant wing has emerged who are dedicated to murdering those who call out this social movement/contagion for what it is. I've heard reports that some of the ammunition found along with the murder weapon that was used to murder Kirk had radical trans-gender slogans written on them. I would not be surprised if this is genuine, but you can never be sure these days.
I'd get some bodyguards for Matt Walsh if he doesn't already have them. I'm curious to know how many death threats he's received for his views on the trans-gender problem since he published "What Is a Woman."
From earlier discourse, I believe we're roughly the same age.
I would posit that this trend is of quite recent vintage as I do not recall there being many instances in my youth. There were a few well-known cases like Wendy (nee Walter) Carlos and Renee Richards (nee Richard Raskind) but it was quite uncommon.
As a kid back in the 70's I thought it was unfair that Richards competed as a woman in professional tennis: along with ostensible strength differences, also something like 6'1" or 6'2".
So why the change?
Well, it *may* just be coincidental but I increasingly think it's not; summarized in one word: Obamacare.
Obamacare was rolled out in two phases with provisions for "gender affirming care" [sic, as far as I'm concerned]. The key element appears to be Section 1557 of the Affordable [sic!!!] Care Act:
So that ostensibly laid the legal and enforcement groundwork but the push, the promotion, the popularization is another story. And I don't know what the answer is but it came out of nowhere and suddenly became "a thing". A big thing.
I would guess it's fundamentally just another element in the assault on the atomic family, social cohesion and religion (Christianity in particular).
N.B. I'm not religious and do not belong to or properly follow any faith. I did go to a Catholic high school and am very happy I did -- it was a thoroughly positive experience (not to mention the genuine benefit of four years of Latin and three of ancient Greek).
I didn't know O-care had that provision. It's evil, on top of being a very politically savvy move, as he probably knew trans-sexuals were/are part of his constituency. I can almost smell the stink of fake compassion.
there shouldn’t be a need for Daniel Penny. there should be adequate forensic psych units to accommodate criminals with serious mental illness who’re homeless. trump’s already done an Exec Order on this, now they need to get serious and implement it.
This has always been the problem. Schizophrenics are often let to let to the point they are imprisoned. Kennedy started this experiment in shuttering mental institutions 60 years ago. It was clear by the late 70s it was a total failure.
But it is going to cost, and since we won't pay it in dollars, we pay it in blood.
NFL stadiums are complicated. They bring a lot of revenue to an area too, due to ancillary activity -- plus the intangibles. We see deals cut to bring factories too.
For example, I think losing the A's will probably hurt Oakland more in the long run than if they had worked out a stadium deal.
But I understand the opposition, and the devil is in the details.
I am a season ticket holder for the Bengals-Who Dey-so I get where you are coming from. That said, the league-and professional sports in general-are losing local connection to communities, and are becoming more like 32 Disneylands-glammed up tourist traps that aren’t there for the general public of their communities.
those with severely mentally ill family members know this all too well. there is absolutely no help and thus no way to protect society from that person. they say “he has to commit a crime.” so he commits a crime and he’s in-and-out in no time at all. then he’s back at his mother’s or grandmother’s house, unmedicated and delusional.
it’s an issue i’ve worked on personally here in FL to get some recognition at the state level. the coalition was so diverse, too. this touches every kind of family demographic cutting across class, race, religion, politics. everything. it’d be a slamdunk win for Trump/GOP if they were to do a serious initiative. HHS is the best agency to tackle this…which’d be kinda interesting with a Kennedy revisiting the family project.
We repeatedly read of families who call 911 for help only to see their mentally ill family member killed by police, or as you say, arrested and released without treatment or follow-up. While it was the case that involuntary commitment laws were sometimes abused, the changes in those laws have left families and society with few tools to deal with someone who refuses to admit that they need help. But Brown actually called 911 on himself, saying that he felt that something was controlling him, and rather than diagnosis and treatment he got cycled through the jail system on a disorderly conduct charge. "Please help us, our son is crazy" isn't enough to get help, but "Please help me, I'm crazy" isn't enough either. A solution will mean investment in facilities and training of professionals. But would it cost more than the countless trips through the legal system?
Yes. It is such a difficult problem and we keep sweeping it under the rug. The system is broken. Hopefully this awful event leads to solutions to keep people off the streets. My heart goes out to the schizophrenics too. They don't ask for this, and it is by the grace of God that we not be afflicted ourselves.
One of the problems is that medication is not an overall answer. It does not heal them. And has many adverse effects.
What do we have available then? There is Family Systems Therapy, to address the issues in the whole family system which can manifest in one family member....but most people just want a quick fix.
I remember that period because I was searching for my first professional job. I compared the facilities and decided neither was good enough (for the patients!) Nonetheless from further experience I now believe that there is a time when a physician has to require confinement for a period of time, in the right type of facility for his malady.
We need to invest in facilities that are worthy of the patients and reflective of the seriousness of (theoretically) confining someone against his will. There should be plenty of money for investing in such things, if we could stop throwing it around all over the world on who knows what.
Sorry, but unless we are perfect in preventing crime, or just zealous in locking up anyone who shows even hints of potential violence, then we will always need Daniel Penny.
Something crazy like that would actually be effective because it breaks a pattern. But it's like giving Lexapro to an anxiety patient: You buy time, but they still have to fix the underlying issues.
There is also the issue of unscrupulous persons making false allegations that some other individual is supposedly mentally ill, and the target person being confined on that basis.
It's an old trick to get back at anyone who might be inconvenient or that the lying party might have a resentment against.
Impossible. These senseless situations require all of us to be vigilant and help those in need regardless of consequences. That is what we were taught to do. Be good citizens.
Not everyone will be in the forensic psych units until they are committed. It’s a good idea yet until one is committed, they will still be out in the community potentially creating chaos.
If the current Hamas fad of the white progressive moron left has them all wearing checkered scarfs for protests, shouldn't they all have been in blackface for the BLM mostly peaceful protests?
09/10/10: The above Taibbi column is instantly obsolete, just like anything opening on Broadway on the evening of December 8, 1941. CHARLIE KIRK CHANGES EVERYTHING.
Unless new info has come out, I don't think we know the killer had "overt racism", just as we didn't ever learn that racism was a factor in the Chauvin/Floyd case.
In this case the killer was saying something like "I got that white girl", which can just be descriptive.
Maybe the press will allow the killer here to raise the defense that Chauvin was not allowed to raise - that Floyd died because of underlying health problems and not because of the non-lethal restraint.
If they could, the MSM would blame the 23 year old deceased and say that the killer is the real victim.
Yes, as I recall it was investigated and they didn't have much evidence of that.
To me, seems more like a risky hold that shouldn't be used against potentially compromised individuals. Probably the biggest systemic issue in the event was in the restraint training.
Only when you,re trying to identify a black or Asian in a sea of white. That white girl was the dead one covered in blood not to be confused with anyone else on the train…
When it's obvious the guy has a few screws loose in his head, we have people saying it's "a terroristic act", or racist. Logic and proportion standing on its head...
It is possible racism is indirectly a secondary aspect. Over the last 12 years, there has been an upswing of racial acrimony. It is possible that this could influence the mind of a vulnerable schizophrenic to be more likely to act racially.
But clearly schizophrenics cannot be left to fend for themselves on the streets, and that if we had a systemic way of truly managing their care, that dear young girl would be alive today.
Well, it's likely this person's head was filled with the standard racist stuff since he was a kid, but mostly there's something wrong, like you say, perhaps schizophrenia. It's strange contemplating the fuzzy border between political allegiance and craziness. As you know, the Soviets used to diagnose their dissidents with being crazy, convenient, and probably also with the thought you'd have to be crazy to resist such a ruthless regime.
When bringing back institutionalization, we definitely need to craft a set of workable controls to prevent political weaponization.... especially in this atmosphere.
Definitely, definitely, with always the question of how. And, institutions would have to be upgraded into facilities that are not only worthy of their patients, but also reflective of the seriousness of placing people there against their will.
He was insane, further fueled by identity politics. Saw this great comment on another article:
"But the real problem isn't that these repeat offenders roam free. It's the cocktail of identity politics, non-agency, resentment, and permissiveness that has increased the number of Decarlos Browns in our society by orders of magnitude over what it could be. No wonder they want to blame the guns."
More likely his diagnosed schizophrenia. The stuff he talked about in that audio recording afterwards about the "material in his body" that did it, are the same things he complained about in the 9/11 call that got him the recent misdemeanor.
In the audio recording he says, 'now they will have to investigate what the material is".
Absolutely agree here. Imagine if in 10 years they cure schizophrenia how many people imprisoned for crimes that were really committed by their inner demons, that will then need to live with the consequences. Far better to institutionalize people so that they can't destroy lives while they are being steered by other forces.
'But the real problem isn't that these repeat offenders roam free. It's the cocktail of identity politics, non-agency, resentment, and permissiveness that has increased the number of Decarlos Browns in our society by orders of magnitude over what it could be. No wonder they want to blame the guns.'
We’re lucky we have the video. Otherwise we would be told Iryna provoked the attack; e.g., by using the “N-word” — which, everyone knows, is a license to kill.
There are no black people in Ukraine to oppress. Nonetheless, to the collectivist Left, she was a white oppressor and the killer, a black oppressed. He’s the victim: she’s the aggressor.
When they arrive, all immigrants know about American blacks is what they see in Hollywood movies and TV shows. Where blacks are wiser, nobler, more intelligent than whites — and interracial crime is almost always white-on-black!
Perhaps if Iryna had been here longer, she would have known to pick a seat farther away from the killer-to-be. And facing him, so she could keep an eye.
The violent activists aren’t necessarily trans themselves. Most trans people are not violent activists. (And don’t compare brain conditions to religion, please.)
I know about the incident you refer to, and a single incident does not indicate a general correlation. Violent trans people are a minority among trans people.
Something doesn't need to be "most" in order to correlate. If it's above the baseline rate then by definition there is a positive correlation. The interesting question is then whether or not you can establish causation.
Well sure, if you don't bother to actually do any research or look at any evidence you can wager anything you want and feel confident. I wager that they are 386% worse, also based on pulling a guess out of my ass.
That is why there are sites like Terf is a Slur that prove otherwise. The exhibit at the SF library of wire wrapped baseball bats and Tshirts daubed with red paint and 'punch a TERF' don't exist? That never happens, you say?
A casual perusal of Muderpedia shows a correlation between crossdressing and violence. There are four signs of a nascent serial murderer: Bedwetting, Animal Abuse, Arson and Sexual Fetishes, crossdressing being one of the most prevalent.
Think of all the death threats you'd get if word got out you were studying that. And who would fund it? (That Trantifa group -covered extensively by Ngo- has racked up more murders than all the other Antifa affinity gangs combined.)
It's the height of hypocrisy (and hilarity) to claim the right is "making this political" when the left was responsible for the "Summer of Love" after George Floyd.
And I'm not the only one who noticed which story got wall-to-wall coverage.
FWIW, I've seen "the right" attacking the judicial system that let the guy out a whole lot more than they're attacking black people in general, though of course there are exceptions.
I'm more concerned about a justice system that has conflicts of interest like Rehab Centers and Halfway Houses.
That is an angle that is being underplayed, but needs to be dug into. Like those judges sending teens to those camps in PA years ago. Judges should have to disclose conflicts of interest.
I feel bad for Derrick Chauvin. He got a bad deal. I watched the whole 45 minute video and the jury did not . Unfair . Floyd possibly died from a fentanyl overdose. I know he’s persona non grata but he’s a man who was stuck in a bad situation. If Floyd had been white nothing would have happened to the police.
Beyond everything Matt covers here, it’s also the mainstream medias complete lack of interest in covering the story (until they had no choice) because it doesn’t fit the narrative. It’s exhausting how for EVERY news story, the coverage it will get is driven by the race of the suspect (and victim)… can you imagine if it was a white man killing a black woman in cold blood. It would be 24/7 news coverage and Riot-Palooza throughout the U.S. but a white Ukrainian woman killed by a black man… crickets. (And here I thought the left was pro-Ukrainian!)
The MSM are now Narrative Enforcement Agents for the global corporate state. They are the commissars of conventional wisdom, with their main task being making sure no one has an original or unapproved thought.
"The MSM are now Narrative Enforcement Agents for the global corporate state."....which is why they make the Big Bucks. Torturing the truth is a full-time job!
It is basically the 20% playing to the same 20% on 80/20 issues. 20% of the US market is large enough to sustain mainstream media. Their conscious decision to ignore the 80% makes them irrelevant.
Charlotte Mayor Vi Lyles in response to the murder made the statement, "We will never arrest our way out of issues such as homelessness and mental health."
Is that really true? If DeCarlos Brown had been in jail, instead of out on "cashless bond", the poor Ukrainian refugee woman he slaughtered would still be alive.
The Democrats fall into Trump's trap by twisting every way they can, as they are doing now, to avoid ascribing responsibility to the monster who slit this innocent girl's throat in public on the Charlotte Light Rail Train.
But in any case there is a larger issue. And someone smart wrote this about the general incoherence of Democratic position: if you want the kind of urban life Democrats say they want — with mass transit, dense housing and a diverse population — then public order, controlling not just violent crime but also disorderly conduct, is an absolute must.
People won’t take mass transit if they feel unsafe on it, and mass transit, by definition, forces you into proximity with strangers.
If you can’t trust those strangers to behave themselves, people will choose alternatives —go armed, or abandon cities entirely and move to places where the surroundings are more congenial.
Kinda like “white flight” from previous times…. Anybody wonder why? Schools forcibly integrated in the 70’s and the proliferation of private schools, etc. as a result. Self fulfilling prophecy, I’m afraid
In Boston no one black or white wanted bussing across the city for their kids. Joe Klein has written about this. The only people who imposed this “idealistic” plan were white elite individuals who sent their own kids to private prep schools anyway.
Lyles really said that, did she? Sounds really Hitlerian to me, almost like prosecutable hate speech. Like "hey, white person! Stay out out of the way of my mentally ill, black knife, or you could get hurt by the superior race."
Tell that to the dead female refugee from Ukraine! No, it’s not the best. But you go to war with the army you have. Anything to keep these monsters off the streets.
“I got that white girl!” You can hear him on the recording. That’s another topic better not touched as we express our sympathy for this poor fellow.
No, but it’s a pretty good way to deal with the trauma, crime, and terror created by untreated mentally ill junkies. They do have drug therapy groups that meet in prison….
I don't think deterred is the right word for those who have been killed. When one is dead, deterrence ceases effectiveness quite rapidly.
It has not, however, deterred would-be murders. That's the point. That's the whole point. "Killing is wrong, so let's kill those who kill" works for nothing but short-term revenge feelings.
There are famous cases of those once condemned to death who were eventually released and killed again: Kenneth McDuff. Condemned to death in 1966 for murdering three teenagers; sentence commuted to life imprisonment in 1972 on basis of Furman v Georgia (look it up); paroled in 1989. He raped and killed six additional women between 1989 and 1992. These six people would not have died if McDuff had been executed. That would have deterred him.
Why isn’t the reaction: “this gruesome homicide illustrates the need for REAL investment in forensic mental health care administered federally through HHS to accommodate known criminals with serious mental illness who’d otherwise be living on the street, involved in drug trade, and endangering people just coming home work”?
Simple, it would not be “compassionate”. Better to let him go off the deep end after a life of crime, murder an innocent person, and spend the rest of his life in a maximum security prison. Wouldn’t want to involuntary commit him to a psyche ward or anything.
i’m so old i remember when problem solving was a primary angle in reporting/analysis: “how can this be addressed? what are the levers to push? who has authority, control, money to do a thing?”
[MSM won’t take this angle b/c it’s counter to their GET TRUMP project]
Well, if the press is going to constantly talk about "the perceived failings of Democratic policies" and "the violent crime they say plagues many Democrat-led cities", eventually they might accidentally get through to one or two borderline voters. Maybe?
Trump changed the entire MSM landscape from credible to laughable simply because he challenged their authority and journalistic objectivity. The Russia-gate and Fine People hoaxes exposed their blatant political bias early on to anyone curious enough to do a little research. The more he called them out, the deeper they dug in. It became farcical. 'He wants you to ingest bleach!' Now, no one under 65 trusts MSM. It may be Trump’s greatest legacy accomplishment: He broke them, and good riddance.
Before Trump, the GOP was the tame companion animal of the D Party. They never did anything without checking with the Dems first. Everyone came to think that was the natural order of the universe. Even abortion, something that the really not religious Trump never cared about before, couldn't be handled in the pre-Trump era. And the Democrats don't even pretend any more to be antiwar or pro-civil liberties.
The Dems are Ahab and Donnie is their White Whale yet the Dems are also Wile E. Coyote with Donnie as their Roadrunner. Tragic and comic!
But maybe he's really Nemesis, come to deliver retribution to our globalist overlords for their staggering arrogance, where they really imagined they could hog all the assets and all the virtue and no one would notice or even object.
Or is he just Rodney Dangerfield in "Caddyshack", the louche nouveau-riche buffoon who sends all the snooty aristocrats to their fainting couches?
Either way, we are ten years into history's longest-running nervous breakdown with no end in sight.
On the day that Charlie Kirk is assassinated, don't even go there. The ones wishing death to other human beings are on the left. I just want their ideas to die, to be transformed into clear thinking, right thinking, hopefully godly thinking. If you disagree with me on that, then watch how your rhetoric causes violence. Yes, my wish for those who disgustingly disagree with me on basic, obvious matters of truth and goodness has come back to bite me. I regret that. If I could take back those words and bring back Charlie Kirk to his family, I would do it. I would even change sides. I wish I could.
Don’t even go there?? Charlie being killed is the perfect example of what I’m talking about. I had not yet heard of his death when I commented earlier, but it underscores my point. There are assholes of all political stripes, and certainly both tribes, who wish death on their foes. It’s hardly one-sided.
I do disagree with the thought that everyone else has to change their views to be parallel with yours. If your views are right, try persuading people.
How can my rhetoric cause violence when I state we shouldn’t wish death on others? I’m confused by some of your thoughts.
Charlie seemed to me to be quite rare in our politics: articulate and often convincing, but not hateful like so many others in both tribes.
And if I were providing feedback for the Social Justice Warriors who may have provoked some dipshit to kill, I’d tell them they are absolute morons, and this plays right into their ENEMY! Trump’s hands.
I can't wait, figuratively speaking, for the brutal stabbing in the neck of Brian Stelter on mass transit by a deranged/on drugs black dude who subsequently yells "I got the white guy!" and then the outcry from CNN commenters that it's baldly racist to notice that no one is noticing the excusing of this black-on-white crime against an innocent man in a blue city run by soft-on-crime Democrats. But then maybe they didn't like Stelter that much anyway so it won't go there.
This Trump mania started as soon as he escalated onto the world political stage. The Left and the media (I repeat myself) have backed themselves into an inescapable corner and are now flailing mindlessly at any Trump stimulus.
Boy are you right. I know someone, female, who is against men playing in women’s sports. President Trump made it illegal and she thought that wasn’t his job, he should be doing presidential stuff. No credit for him. I use an iPad and when I type President I get Biden or Obama but never Trump.
Wow! Thankfully Android doesn't go THAT far as to Biden and Obama, but no matter how many times I correct it, I ALWAYS get good instead of God. Beyond irritating and Makes me sick.
That's arguably forgivable given that it can be used in other contexts like (the card game) bridge.
It's of course just a coincidence, but I do find that alternative meaning hilarious.
I mean...a United States President named Trump!
It can be used clumsily as in "President Trump trumped rogue judges by..."
But the ring of "President Trump" is vaguely like (and take this as tongue-in-cheek humor) "Judge Dredd".
:-)
If you had told me back in the 80's or 90's that I'd vote for Donald Trump three times I would have thought you crazy. But I did. I've really come to appreciate and enjoy his style too. Big-time. Despite my skepticism, I voted for Obama in 2008 and now I can barely listen to him speak. Just fake to the bone. The absolute opposite of Trump who, whatever you may think of him or his policies, is arguably quite genuine.
We were told in no uncertain terms that one could not mention anything other than guns in response to the Annunciation Catholic shooting. The shooter's delusions were off-limits.
Now we're told that the killer's mental health is the only relevant aspect of this story, and any law-enforcement angles (and the killer's overt racism) are off-limits. One wonders how coverage would shift if Iryna Zarutska was shot instead of being stabbed!
The difference between Jordan Neely and Decarlos Brown is one Daniel Penny, and the Left hates Penny and laments his exoneration. Even George Floyd was on the path to becoming Decarlos Brown, and we have to look at his big ugly mug on murals all over the country now.
But the real problem isn't that these repeat offenders roam free. It's the cocktail of identity politics, non-agency, resentment, and permissiveness that has increased the number of Decarlos Browns in our society by orders of magnitude over what it could be.
No wonder they want to blame the guns.
There is no cure for Trump derangement syndrome. It is astonishing to watch people in the grip of this fever beclown themselves while denying he has any effect on them at all.
Like! I interact with them every day, and the bulk of them will never come back to normal.
They are like a divergent hominid species, and we should let them be on their way.
And now, Charlie Kirk is dead
And Pritzker just blamed that on Trump.
Of course he did!
Ridiculous! Pritzker is off his rocker!
No he's not off his rocker. He is a willful amoral pathogen serving the avaricious malignant narcissism of the rigged game perpetrators dismantling the American Republic. He lies, knows he's lying and will continue to lie.
(Just an observation--not a shot.)
Agreed. Pritzker is not emotional but opportunistic and calculated with an angle.
Want a hoot? Do a search on "Pritzker Capone" or "Pritzker Giancana" or similar.
Abram Pritzker (grandfather to JB and Penny -- Obama's fairy godmother) was a tax attorney and started the Pritzker fortune. Was known to the FBI. Take a guess who his clients included.
Apparently, Abram was able to offshore a bunch of the Pritzker fortune prior to the implementation of reporting rules so no-one knows how much money they have.
TDS isn't invariably fatal. I got over it, and I'm not the only one.
Unfortunately, that means the ones that remain are more heavily infected.
People r being lied to by MSM. My neighbor claims that Florida banned Anne franks diary. He said the ladies of liberty r holocaust deniers. It took a few minutes to pull up the whole story and it was Anne Frank the graphic novel that was removed from school libraries because it minimized the holocaust . Totally different.
I found it amusing when someone wondered out loud after the Annunciation shooting if trans individuals shouldn't be allowed to own guns....the biggest previous gun grabbers all of the sudden became 2nd Amendment proponents
At least we're consistent, we believe all mentally ill individuals should not be allowed to purchase guns, Trans included.
But a Trans Individual is not mentally ill
ha ha good one
If you are born with boy bits but think you are a girl that is by definition all in your head, a mental condition.
At one time it was considered bad form to perform surgery for mental issues.
And--while "the princess and the prince discuss what is real and what is not" the grift stuffs its pockets and heads off to the Hamptons for a Fall vacation. Trans-TDS--guns--murder-war-money--tra la la la la.
I'd say there's a miniscule portion of those who declare themselves to be trans-sexual who are genuinely insane.
However, since the he/she phenomenon has been folded into the left's politics of "liberation," otherwise normal people play dress-up and, worst of all, many groom their children into believing they are occupying bodies with the wrong genitals. It is especially prevalent among the more affluent and among Hollywood celebrities. It's also become a popular form of adolescent rebellion that the political movement encourages. I think the statistics that show the explosion in numbers of people declaring themselves trans-sexual supports this assertion.
It's a form of mass hysteria that has been politicized, and now a militant wing has emerged who are dedicated to murdering those who call out this social movement/contagion for what it is. I've heard reports that some of the ammunition found along with the murder weapon that was used to murder Kirk had radical trans-gender slogans written on them. I would not be surprised if this is genuine, but you can never be sure these days.
I'd get some bodyguards for Matt Walsh if he doesn't already have them. I'm curious to know how many death threats he's received for his views on the trans-gender problem since he published "What Is a Woman."
From earlier discourse, I believe we're roughly the same age.
I would posit that this trend is of quite recent vintage as I do not recall there being many instances in my youth. There were a few well-known cases like Wendy (nee Walter) Carlos and Renee Richards (nee Richard Raskind) but it was quite uncommon.
As a kid back in the 70's I thought it was unfair that Richards competed as a woman in professional tennis: along with ostensible strength differences, also something like 6'1" or 6'2".
So why the change?
Well, it *may* just be coincidental but I increasingly think it's not; summarized in one word: Obamacare.
Obamacare was rolled out in two phases with provisions for "gender affirming care" [sic, as far as I'm concerned]. The key element appears to be Section 1557 of the Affordable [sic!!!] Care Act:
https://www.hhs.gov/civil-rights/for-individuals/section-1557/fs-sex-discrimination/index.html
So that ostensibly laid the legal and enforcement groundwork but the push, the promotion, the popularization is another story. And I don't know what the answer is but it came out of nowhere and suddenly became "a thing". A big thing.
I would guess it's fundamentally just another element in the assault on the atomic family, social cohesion and religion (Christianity in particular).
N.B. I'm not religious and do not belong to or properly follow any faith. I did go to a Catholic high school and am very happy I did -- it was a thoroughly positive experience (not to mention the genuine benefit of four years of Latin and three of ancient Greek).
I didn't know O-care had that provision. It's evil, on top of being a very politically savvy move, as he probably knew trans-sexuals were/are part of his constituency. I can almost smell the stink of fake compassion.
Wait—are you saying there are hypocrites in the tribes?
If not for double standards, most people--and all activists--would have no standards.
Excellent!
For reference, I am guessing you're paraphrasing/modifying the line from Albert King's (no relation to B.B.) song, "Born Under A Bad Sign":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_Under_a_Bad_Sign_(song)
"If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all"
Your version is truly quotable -- I'll try to attribute because I know I'll be using it! Thank you!
Upvote for the Albert King reference!
Shocking
(not shocked)
Maybe Dems in general should not own guns?
Amen
Also have to note that some conservatives were advocating stricter gun control for trans individuals. Yikes.
Charlie Kirk just shot in Utah...in the middle of a debate of whether trans folks should not be allowed to own guns
Praying for Charlie Kirk.
Too sad about Charlie Kirk.
--Wait, what? Is that true?! Question the questioner.
They should be bound by the same restrictions there may be for those diagnosed as insane, if there are any.
Yeah, that was a really bad idea.
there shouldn’t be a need for Daniel Penny. there should be adequate forensic psych units to accommodate criminals with serious mental illness who’re homeless. trump’s already done an Exec Order on this, now they need to get serious and implement it.
This has always been the problem. Schizophrenics are often let to let to the point they are imprisoned. Kennedy started this experiment in shuttering mental institutions 60 years ago. It was clear by the late 70s it was a total failure.
But it is going to cost, and since we won't pay it in dollars, we pay it in blood.
This isn’t wrong. More jails and more lunatic asylums are desperately needed. Maybe tell the NFL owners to build their own damn stadiums.
NFL stadiums are complicated. They bring a lot of revenue to an area too, due to ancillary activity -- plus the intangibles. We see deals cut to bring factories too.
For example, I think losing the A's will probably hurt Oakland more in the long run than if they had worked out a stadium deal.
But I understand the opposition, and the devil is in the details.
I am a season ticket holder for the Bengals-Who Dey-so I get where you are coming from. That said, the league-and professional sports in general-are losing local connection to communities, and are becoming more like 32 Disneylands-glammed up tourist traps that aren’t there for the general public of their communities.
I agree with you there. Same thing is happening to universities, frankly.
Glamming everything up and tilting towards exclusivity.
those with severely mentally ill family members know this all too well. there is absolutely no help and thus no way to protect society from that person. they say “he has to commit a crime.” so he commits a crime and he’s in-and-out in no time at all. then he’s back at his mother’s or grandmother’s house, unmedicated and delusional.
it’s an issue i’ve worked on personally here in FL to get some recognition at the state level. the coalition was so diverse, too. this touches every kind of family demographic cutting across class, race, religion, politics. everything. it’d be a slamdunk win for Trump/GOP if they were to do a serious initiative. HHS is the best agency to tackle this…which’d be kinda interesting with a Kennedy revisiting the family project.
We repeatedly read of families who call 911 for help only to see their mentally ill family member killed by police, or as you say, arrested and released without treatment or follow-up. While it was the case that involuntary commitment laws were sometimes abused, the changes in those laws have left families and society with few tools to deal with someone who refuses to admit that they need help. But Brown actually called 911 on himself, saying that he felt that something was controlling him, and rather than diagnosis and treatment he got cycled through the jail system on a disorderly conduct charge. "Please help us, our son is crazy" isn't enough to get help, but "Please help me, I'm crazy" isn't enough either. A solution will mean investment in facilities and training of professionals. But would it cost more than the countless trips through the legal system?
YES great point—they actually charged him when he tried to report his oncoming psychosis. that’s so important to note!
Apparently, there was an order issued for a psych evaluation, but it was for several weeks, or months, later and he was released in the meantime.
Yes. It is such a difficult problem and we keep sweeping it under the rug. The system is broken. Hopefully this awful event leads to solutions to keep people off the streets. My heart goes out to the schizophrenics too. They don't ask for this, and it is by the grace of God that we not be afflicted ourselves.
One of the problems is that medication is not an overall answer. It does not heal them. And has many adverse effects.
What do we have available then? There is Family Systems Therapy, to address the issues in the whole family system which can manifest in one family member....but most people just want a quick fix.
yep, the severely mentally ill are frequent victims of other severely mentally ill ppl.
I remember that period because I was searching for my first professional job. I compared the facilities and decided neither was good enough (for the patients!) Nonetheless from further experience I now believe that there is a time when a physician has to require confinement for a period of time, in the right type of facility for his malady.
We need to invest in facilities that are worthy of the patients and reflective of the seriousness of (theoretically) confining someone against his will. There should be plenty of money for investing in such things, if we could stop throwing it around all over the world on who knows what.
Sorry, but unless we are perfect in preventing crime, or just zealous in locking up anyone who shows even hints of potential violence, then we will always need Daniel Penny.
No one is willing to go through what Daniel Perry had to endure. The left turns heroes into villains
How about a cop on every subway car?
Something crazy like that would actually be effective because it breaks a pattern. But it's like giving Lexapro to an anxiety patient: You buy time, but they still have to fix the underlying issues.
In other words, he died of a fentanyl overdose. Chauvin is paying for it.
I feel terrible a Chauvin . I givesendgo as much as I can to him . It’s an unpopular cause. I feel bad for him and his mom and our country
There is also the issue of unscrupulous persons making false allegations that some other individual is supposedly mentally ill, and the target person being confined on that basis.
It's an old trick to get back at anyone who might be inconvenient or that the lying party might have a resentment against.
Impossible. These senseless situations require all of us to be vigilant and help those in need regardless of consequences. That is what we were taught to do. Be good citizens.
Not everyone will be in the forensic psych units until they are committed. It’s a good idea yet until one is committed, they will still be out in the community potentially creating chaos.
Intersectional dogma is civilization poison.
The truth stated in the simplest way!
Appropo of nothing, but;
If the current Hamas fad of the white progressive moron left has them all wearing checkered scarfs for protests, shouldn't they all have been in blackface for the BLM mostly peaceful protests?
Excellent point
Hilarious. That would be perfect.
09/10/10: The above Taibbi column is instantly obsolete, just like anything opening on Broadway on the evening of December 8, 1941. CHARLIE KIRK CHANGES EVERYTHING.
Yes
Unless new info has come out, I don't think we know the killer had "overt racism", just as we didn't ever learn that racism was a factor in the Chauvin/Floyd case.
In this case the killer was saying something like "I got that white girl", which can just be descriptive.
That is far more generous than would be allowed if the races were reversed.
If the races were reversed, we would have seen the whole bloody incident, just like we did with Chauvin.
Maybe the press will allow the killer here to raise the defense that Chauvin was not allowed to raise - that Floyd died because of underlying health problems and not because of the non-lethal restraint.
If they could, the MSM would blame the 23 year old deceased and say that the killer is the real victim.
I was generous to Chauvin in this regard, and can only control my own opinion.
IIRC the government never even accused Chauvin of being racist at his trial.
Yes, as I recall it was investigated and they didn't have much evidence of that.
To me, seems more like a risky hold that shouldn't be used against potentially compromised individuals. Probably the biggest systemic issue in the event was in the restraint training.
Which, ironically, the state had evidence that he followed.
Didn't matter.
Thanks. We don’t need to re-litigate Chauvin.
If the races had been reversed, and the perp had said, "I got that black girl," would that have shown "overt racism"?
No
Oh, please!
I don't think so, do you? I often describe people in conversation as "that black guy", "the Asian guy", etc.
Now, in both cases, further information may recontextualize the statement.
Only when you,re trying to identify a black or Asian in a sea of white. That white girl was the dead one covered in blood not to be confused with anyone else on the train…
You’re right about the Chauvin/ Floyd case. Fentanyl is not racism.
When it's obvious the guy has a few screws loose in his head, we have people saying it's "a terroristic act", or racist. Logic and proportion standing on its head...
It is possible racism is indirectly a secondary aspect. Over the last 12 years, there has been an upswing of racial acrimony. It is possible that this could influence the mind of a vulnerable schizophrenic to be more likely to act racially.
But clearly schizophrenics cannot be left to fend for themselves on the streets, and that if we had a systemic way of truly managing their care, that dear young girl would be alive today.
Well, it's likely this person's head was filled with the standard racist stuff since he was a kid, but mostly there's something wrong, like you say, perhaps schizophrenia. It's strange contemplating the fuzzy border between political allegiance and craziness. As you know, the Soviets used to diagnose their dissidents with being crazy, convenient, and probably also with the thought you'd have to be crazy to resist such a ruthless regime.
When bringing back institutionalization, we definitely need to craft a set of workable controls to prevent political weaponization.... especially in this atmosphere.
Definitely, definitely, with always the question of how. And, institutions would have to be upgraded into facilities that are not only worthy of their patients, but also reflective of the seriousness of placing people there against their will.
He was insane, further fueled by identity politics. Saw this great comment on another article:
"But the real problem isn't that these repeat offenders roam free. It's the cocktail of identity politics, non-agency, resentment, and permissiveness that has increased the number of Decarlos Browns in our society by orders of magnitude over what it could be. No wonder they want to blame the guns."
Or black instead of being white
I suspect meth had a little something to do with it.
More likely his diagnosed schizophrenia. The stuff he talked about in that audio recording afterwards about the "material in his body" that did it, are the same things he complained about in the 9/11 call that got him the recent misdemeanor.
In the audio recording he says, 'now they will have to investigate what the material is".
The guy clearly has deep psychological problems.
The system failed him too. The best thing FOR him and everyone else was to have him locked up and treated.
Absolutely agree here. Imagine if in 10 years they cure schizophrenia how many people imprisoned for crimes that were really committed by their inner demons, that will then need to live with the consequences. Far better to institutionalize people so that they can't destroy lives while they are being steered by other forces.
'But the real problem isn't that these repeat offenders roam free. It's the cocktail of identity politics, non-agency, resentment, and permissiveness that has increased the number of Decarlos Browns in our society by orders of magnitude over what it could be. No wonder they want to blame the guns.'
Excellent comment.
We’re lucky we have the video. Otherwise we would be told Iryna provoked the attack; e.g., by using the “N-word” — which, everyone knows, is a license to kill.
There are no black people in Ukraine to oppress. Nonetheless, to the collectivist Left, she was a white oppressor and the killer, a black oppressed. He’s the victim: she’s the aggressor.
When they arrive, all immigrants know about American blacks is what they see in Hollywood movies and TV shows. Where blacks are wiser, nobler, more intelligent than whites — and interracial crime is almost always white-on-black!
Perhaps if Iryna had been here longer, she would have known to pick a seat farther away from the killer-to-be. And facing him, so she could keep an eye.
Gender dysphoria does not correlate with violent behavior.
Andy Ngo has bruises and contusions that refute that.
The violent activists aren’t necessarily trans themselves. Most trans people are not violent activists. (And don’t compare brain conditions to religion, please.)
I'm talking about something specific. Use your google machine and look it up.
I know about the incident you refer to, and a single incident does not indicate a general correlation. Violent trans people are a minority among trans people.
There's a whole organized trans cult that is violent. One of them shot a border patrol agent near the Canadian border.
Research Andy Ngo's work on the trantifa people.
Probably the same incidence of violence within that cohort as in the general population, I suspect.
Something doesn't need to be "most" in order to correlate. If it's above the baseline rate then by definition there is a positive correlation. The interesting question is then whether or not you can establish causation.
I’ll wager they’re no worse than cishet extremists.
Well sure, if you don't bother to actually do any research or look at any evidence you can wager anything you want and feel confident. I wager that they are 386% worse, also based on pulling a guess out of my ass.
That is why there are sites like Terf is a Slur that prove otherwise. The exhibit at the SF library of wire wrapped baseball bats and Tshirts daubed with red paint and 'punch a TERF' don't exist? That never happens, you say?
A casual perusal of Muderpedia shows a correlation between crossdressing and violence. There are four signs of a nascent serial murderer: Bedwetting, Animal Abuse, Arson and Sexual Fetishes, crossdressing being one of the most prevalent.
I don't turn my back on troons either.
Real gender dysphoria is not a sexual fetish.
Recent study on that?
Think of all the death threats you'd get if word got out you were studying that. And who would fund it? (That Trantifa group -covered extensively by Ngo- has racked up more murders than all the other Antifa affinity gangs combined.)
But it's literally in the DSM as a mental illness, should never have had guns.
But not a mental illness that involves violent tendencies.
I suspect meth had a little something to do with it.
It doesn’t just suck as it HAS BEEN sucking … so how do we make it stop?
It's the height of hypocrisy (and hilarity) to claim the right is "making this political" when the left was responsible for the "Summer of Love" after George Floyd.
And I'm not the only one who noticed which story got wall-to-wall coverage.
“And I'm not the only one who noticed which story got wall-to-wall coverage.”
Understatement of the year potential here.
The Streisand Effect writ large. The more they try and bury or downplay the story the more their dark hypocrisy is exposed to sunlight.
When Whoopie and Jasmine Crockett start opining on it, this is when the fun truly begins. Grab your popcorn.
"Politicizing" is when the argument is ideologically unflattering, and only when the argument is ideologically unflattering.
Demanding gun control in response to Annunciation Catholic was not "politicizing", but mentioning the shooter's poorly-treated mental health was.
Demanding better mental health treatment for Decarlos Brown is not "politicizing", but any other angle on the Zarutska murder is.
Charlie Kirk was just shot. Say a prayer for him. The Left is at it again.
Looks bad
He’s gone.
Yes. Awful. We're discussing it on my 'Stack - I don't want to clog up Matt's boards with off-topic posts.
I hear you.
What, all of them? Must have been a mighty crowded rally.
Pandemic of the Politicized
Good point, but criminal-killing-someone doesn’t naturally draw the attention that cop-killing-someone does.
And both stories seem to have a bogus racial angle, at least as a primary factor.
FWIW, I've seen "the right" attacking the judicial system that let the guy out a whole lot more than they're attacking black people in general, though of course there are exceptions.
I'm more concerned about a justice system that has conflicts of interest like Rehab Centers and Halfway Houses.
That is an angle that is being underplayed, but needs to be dug into. Like those judges sending teens to those camps in PA years ago. Judges should have to disclose conflicts of interest.
I feel bad for Derrick Chauvin. He got a bad deal. I watched the whole 45 minute video and the jury did not . Unfair . Floyd possibly died from a fentanyl overdose. I know he’s persona non grata but he’s a man who was stuck in a bad situation. If Floyd had been white nothing would have happened to the police.
Justice shouldn’t be political or race based .
Beyond everything Matt covers here, it’s also the mainstream medias complete lack of interest in covering the story (until they had no choice) because it doesn’t fit the narrative. It’s exhausting how for EVERY news story, the coverage it will get is driven by the race of the suspect (and victim)… can you imagine if it was a white man killing a black woman in cold blood. It would be 24/7 news coverage and Riot-Palooza throughout the U.S. but a white Ukrainian woman killed by a black man… crickets. (And here I thought the left was pro-Ukrainian!)
The MSM are now Narrative Enforcement Agents for the global corporate state. They are the commissars of conventional wisdom, with their main task being making sure no one has an original or unapproved thought.
"Freeze! NEA Investigations SWAT! Put down your mouse and step slowly away from your laptop, Thought Criminal!"
I believe it’s called propaganda, pure and simple. Heck, Pravda was more balanced than today’s leftist MSM.
"The MSM are now Narrative Enforcement Agents for the global corporate state."....which is why they make the Big Bucks. Torturing the truth is a full-time job!
Now? This has been going on for decades, ffs!
It is basically the 20% playing to the same 20% on 80/20 issues. 20% of the US market is large enough to sustain mainstream media. Their conscious decision to ignore the 80% makes them irrelevant.
Our local rag pretty much is just AP reprint. The story (two weeks later) got two sentences on page A7 - labeled 'transit death.'
Those turds weren't concerned about rampant crime. But now there are concerned about the Trumpist backlash and Trump acting against crime.
The jokes practically write themselves.
Charlotte Mayor Vi Lyles in response to the murder made the statement, "We will never arrest our way out of issues such as homelessness and mental health."
Is that really true? If DeCarlos Brown had been in jail, instead of out on "cashless bond", the poor Ukrainian refugee woman he slaughtered would still be alive.
The Democrats fall into Trump's trap by twisting every way they can, as they are doing now, to avoid ascribing responsibility to the monster who slit this innocent girl's throat in public on the Charlotte Light Rail Train.
But in any case there is a larger issue. And someone smart wrote this about the general incoherence of Democratic position: if you want the kind of urban life Democrats say they want — with mass transit, dense housing and a diverse population — then public order, controlling not just violent crime but also disorderly conduct, is an absolute must.
People won’t take mass transit if they feel unsafe on it, and mass transit, by definition, forces you into proximity with strangers.
If you can’t trust those strangers to behave themselves, people will choose alternatives —go armed, or abandon cities entirely and move to places where the surroundings are more congenial.
Kinda like “white flight” from previous times…. Anybody wonder why? Schools forcibly integrated in the 70’s and the proliferation of private schools, etc. as a result. Self fulfilling prophecy, I’m afraid
In Boston no one black or white wanted bussing across the city for their kids. Joe Klein has written about this. The only people who imposed this “idealistic” plan were white elite individuals who sent their own kids to private prep schools anyway.
Lyles really said that, did she? Sounds really Hitlerian to me, almost like prosecutable hate speech. Like "hey, white person! Stay out out of the way of my mentally ill, black knife, or you could get hurt by the superior race."
She did. Incredible and she was just renominated by her party to be re-elected.
Your point is well taken, but racking & stacking them in jails and prisons doesn’t seem the best way to deal with severe mental illness.
Tell that to the dead female refugee from Ukraine! No, it’s not the best. But you go to war with the army you have. Anything to keep these monsters off the streets.
“I got that white girl!” You can hear him on the recording. That’s another topic better not touched as we express our sympathy for this poor fellow.
And, uh, what was the name of his VICTIM again?
No, but it’s a pretty good way to deal with the trauma, crime, and terror created by untreated mentally ill junkies. They do have drug therapy groups that meet in prison….
If you lined up and shot, on live national TV, 1000 of the most mentally ill people, a whole lot of the rest of them would get well all by themselves
Yeah, just like the threat of the death penalty has totally deterred would-be murders. Totally great idea.
It certainly deterred those who were executed.
I don't think deterred is the right word for those who have been killed. When one is dead, deterrence ceases effectiveness quite rapidly.
It has not, however, deterred would-be murders. That's the point. That's the whole point. "Killing is wrong, so let's kill those who kill" works for nothing but short-term revenge feelings.
There are famous cases of those once condemned to death who were eventually released and killed again: Kenneth McDuff. Condemned to death in 1966 for murdering three teenagers; sentence commuted to life imprisonment in 1972 on basis of Furman v Georgia (look it up); paroled in 1989. He raped and killed six additional women between 1989 and 1992. These six people would not have died if McDuff had been executed. That would have deterred him.
Given that the places where we used to rack and stack the mentally ill no longer exist, it's the next best thing.
Why isn’t the reaction: “this gruesome homicide illustrates the need for REAL investment in forensic mental health care administered federally through HHS to accommodate known criminals with serious mental illness who’d otherwise be living on the street, involved in drug trade, and endangering people just coming home work”?
that’s the question on my mind, at least.
Simple, it would not be “compassionate”. Better to let him go off the deep end after a life of crime, murder an innocent person, and spend the rest of his life in a maximum security prison. Wouldn’t want to involuntary commit him to a psyche ward or anything.
Really? That sounds WAY too much like bettering society to originate from the MSM.
literally said “HA” out loud 😝
i’m so old i remember when problem solving was a primary angle in reporting/analysis: “how can this be addressed? what are the levers to push? who has authority, control, money to do a thing?”
[MSM won’t take this angle b/c it’s counter to their GET TRUMP project]
Well, if the press is going to constantly talk about "the perceived failings of Democratic policies" and "the violent crime they say plagues many Democrat-led cities", eventually they might accidentally get through to one or two borderline voters. Maybe?
Nellie Bowles had a great comment on this,in I think yesterday’s daily round up on The Free Press.
Trump changed the entire MSM landscape from credible to laughable simply because he challenged their authority and journalistic objectivity. The Russia-gate and Fine People hoaxes exposed their blatant political bias early on to anyone curious enough to do a little research. The more he called them out, the deeper they dug in. It became farcical. 'He wants you to ingest bleach!' Now, no one under 65 trusts MSM. It may be Trump’s greatest legacy accomplishment: He broke them, and good riddance.
Before Trump, the GOP was the tame companion animal of the D Party. They never did anything without checking with the Dems first. Everyone came to think that was the natural order of the universe. Even abortion, something that the really not religious Trump never cared about before, couldn't be handled in the pre-Trump era. And the Democrats don't even pretend any more to be antiwar or pro-civil liberties.
The Dems are Ahab and Donnie is their White Whale yet the Dems are also Wile E. Coyote with Donnie as their Roadrunner. Tragic and comic!
But maybe he's really Nemesis, come to deliver retribution to our globalist overlords for their staggering arrogance, where they really imagined they could hog all the assets and all the virtue and no one would notice or even object.
Or is he just Rodney Dangerfield in "Caddyshack", the louche nouveau-riche buffoon who sends all the snooty aristocrats to their fainting couches?
Either way, we are ten years into history's longest-running nervous breakdown with no end in sight.
"the Dems are also Wile E. Coyote with Donnie as their Roadrunner. Tragic and comic!"
LOL!! Too perfect! Now THAT is meme-worthy!
lol thx
Real Wives of Bushwood
Your Caddyshack reference is spot on-also see Jackie Mason’s character in Caddyshack 2 and Rodney again as Thornton Mellon in Back to School.
I'm going with Nemesis.
TDS captured the lefts brain and is incurable.
Yup. They're minds have been permanently fucked.
Obedience of thought demands fealty. Ye shall not question the liturgy.
Let us not wish death on those with whom we disagree. That shit gets out of hand quickly.
On the day that Charlie Kirk is assassinated, don't even go there. The ones wishing death to other human beings are on the left. I just want their ideas to die, to be transformed into clear thinking, right thinking, hopefully godly thinking. If you disagree with me on that, then watch how your rhetoric causes violence. Yes, my wish for those who disgustingly disagree with me on basic, obvious matters of truth and goodness has come back to bite me. I regret that. If I could take back those words and bring back Charlie Kirk to his family, I would do it. I would even change sides. I wish I could.
Don’t even go there?? Charlie being killed is the perfect example of what I’m talking about. I had not yet heard of his death when I commented earlier, but it underscores my point. There are assholes of all political stripes, and certainly both tribes, who wish death on their foes. It’s hardly one-sided.
I do disagree with the thought that everyone else has to change their views to be parallel with yours. If your views are right, try persuading people.
How can my rhetoric cause violence when I state we shouldn’t wish death on others? I’m confused by some of your thoughts.
Charlie seemed to me to be quite rare in our politics: articulate and often convincing, but not hateful like so many others in both tribes.
And if I were providing feedback for the Social Justice Warriors who may have provoked some dipshit to kill, I’d tell them they are absolute morons, and this plays right into their ENEMY! Trump’s hands.
There are a bunch of us who agree
Bald racist, Brian Stelter
I can't wait, figuratively speaking, for the brutal stabbing in the neck of Brian Stelter on mass transit by a deranged/on drugs black dude who subsequently yells "I got the white guy!" and then the outcry from CNN commenters that it's baldly racist to notice that no one is noticing the excusing of this black-on-white crime against an innocent man in a blue city run by soft-on-crime Democrats. But then maybe they didn't like Stelter that much anyway so it won't go there.
Stelter is an irrelevant little toad. Not worth the calories
Mr. Potato Head?
Yup! They have no sense of irony.
😂
This Trump mania started as soon as he escalated onto the world political stage. The Left and the media (I repeat myself) have backed themselves into an inescapable corner and are now flailing mindlessly at any Trump stimulus.
It subsided for a moment when it looked like DeSantis might be the GOP nominee, and it will end when Republicans decide their 2028 nominee.
Prior to 2015, it was other Republicans, especially GWB.
You think it will end when J.D. is president?
Yes, because it will become Vance mania.
Moths to an orange flame. They keep getting zapped. Orange man bad, even if that means criticizing him for bringing attention to a revolting crime.
Totally agree. If you actually don’t like Orange Man, don’t filter your reality through Orange Man.
They don't want to stop using the Orange Man to inflame zealots into supporting their power.
Boy are you right. I know someone, female, who is against men playing in women’s sports. President Trump made it illegal and she thought that wasn’t his job, he should be doing presidential stuff. No credit for him. I use an iPad and when I type President I get Biden or Obama but never Trump.
Wow! Thankfully Android doesn't go THAT far as to Biden and Obama, but no matter how many times I correct it, I ALWAYS get good instead of God. Beyond irritating and Makes me sick.
It’s the small signals.. no auto cap on the name Trump
That's arguably forgivable given that it can be used in other contexts like (the card game) bridge.
It's of course just a coincidence, but I do find that alternative meaning hilarious.
I mean...a United States President named Trump!
It can be used clumsily as in "President Trump trumped rogue judges by..."
But the ring of "President Trump" is vaguely like (and take this as tongue-in-cheek humor) "Judge Dredd".
:-)
If you had told me back in the 80's or 90's that I'd vote for Donald Trump three times I would have thought you crazy. But I did. I've really come to appreciate and enjoy his style too. Big-time. Despite my skepticism, I voted for Obama in 2008 and now I can barely listen to him speak. Just fake to the bone. The absolute opposite of Trump who, whatever you may think of him or his policies, is arguably quite genuine.
Have to wholeheartedly agree. We must be nuts…. He’s still the best thing out there.
During one of the latest kerfuffles, I caught an announcer saying 'former President Trump'.
I’d say 85% of the country recognizes this as a terrible crime that shouldn’t have happened, that this guy shouldn’t have been on the streets .
The Democrats and legacy media are digging more holes for themselves arguing the opposite narrative.
Unfortunately the other 15% holds all the levers of power in blue cities/states-and exercises it.
What about the remaining 15 percent in your example? They are still out there.
Warning: Brian Stelter's writing and media appearances WILL induce immediate vomiting and diarrhea.
It’s hard to be less than nothing. Stelter has accomplished such