Oh wow, @sevender! More pussy grabbing going on. But, Joe hasn't been recorded bragging about it. So! https://www.vox.com/2020/3/27/21195935/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation
Well, Clinton (both of them) proved their decency by not talking about it.
Back in the 50's and 60's, a president could have nude pool parties and take starlets to bed -- at the White House -- and invite the press to the parties. And the press wouldn't report on it because that was private life and nobody else's business. But, they would report on substantive matters that made a difference to the country that came from such parties.
There's a very short list of politicians who have a clean record in this regard. Maybe Dick Nixon and Quayle, who had other problems. Maybe Bob Dole with his prostate problems.
Hell, how many girls did he molest at those pageants? And what about his own daughter? I cannot even begin imagine the reaction if Obama made similar remarks. Plus we have 40+ years of Trump being a sleaze as well as his friendship with Epstein (just like Clinton!). So i really don't know how one can defend Trump in good conscience. Now, you raise a very good point about power. In fact, studies show that wealth and power increase sociopathic behavior in people. And when you have someone like Trump who is already well down that road, well, it just explains his (and others) behavior all too well.
Actually Trump was the first person to penalize Epstein. After Trump found out the Epstein was bringing underage girls to his apartment at Mar a Lago, Trump banned him from ever again coming there. That was ~15 years ago.
Oh please. Trump and Epstein were buddies for 17 years before that. And they split in 2004 over a piece of real estate in Palm Beach. Stop stanning for Trump, who lacks any moral compass whatsoever, as anyone who has been paying attention to his extremely public presence for at least the past four decades.
Wrong. They had already split over real estate. Trump just piled on when Epstein was charged. He knew everything about Epstein when they were buddies for the previous 17 years. And it is the height of naivete to think he didn't participate. But I suppose you extend this same presumption of innocence to, say, Bill Clinton? Oh wait...
Oh wow, @sevender! More pussy grabbing going on. But, Joe hasn't been recorded bragging about it. So! https://www.vox.com/2020/3/27/21195935/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation
It is funny how it's only a problem for some when scumbag Trump does it. Not many words from these folks when we bring up Billy Clinton, either.
Well, Clinton (both of them) proved their decency by not talking about it.
Back in the 50's and 60's, a president could have nude pool parties and take starlets to bed -- at the White House -- and invite the press to the parties. And the press wouldn't report on it because that was private life and nobody else's business. But, they would report on substantive matters that made a difference to the country that came from such parties.
Bill Clinton is a scumbag and probably a rapist (just like Trump!). There, better?
There's a very short list of politicians who have a clean record in this regard. Maybe Dick Nixon and Quayle, who had other problems. Maybe Bob Dole with his prostate problems.
Sexual abuse and power seem to go hand in hand.
I'm guessing Pence has a clean record. And Mittens of course.
Or Carter. He only committed adultery in his heart.
Hell, how many girls did he molest at those pageants? And what about his own daughter? I cannot even begin imagine the reaction if Obama made similar remarks. Plus we have 40+ years of Trump being a sleaze as well as his friendship with Epstein (just like Clinton!). So i really don't know how one can defend Trump in good conscience. Now, you raise a very good point about power. In fact, studies show that wealth and power increase sociopathic behavior in people. And when you have someone like Trump who is already well down that road, well, it just explains his (and others) behavior all too well.
Actually Trump was the first person to penalize Epstein. After Trump found out the Epstein was bringing underage girls to his apartment at Mar a Lago, Trump banned him from ever again coming there. That was ~15 years ago.
Oh please. Trump and Epstein were buddies for 17 years before that. And they split in 2004 over a piece of real estate in Palm Beach. Stop stanning for Trump, who lacks any moral compass whatsoever, as anyone who has been paying attention to his extremely public presence for at least the past four decades.
No, they split over Epstein's abuse of underage girls. And Trump was the FIRST to split from Epstein and punish him.
Wrong. They had already split over real estate. Trump just piled on when Epstein was charged. He knew everything about Epstein when they were buddies for the previous 17 years. And it is the height of naivete to think he didn't participate. But I suppose you extend this same presumption of innocence to, say, Bill Clinton? Oh wait...
Pardon me for interjecting, but why are you all arguing about Trump? Is he on a ballot somewhere and I missed it?
Trump is living rent free in a lot of people's heads. Democrats will continue to argue he's still on the ballot.
One complaint vs. 40 or so?