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“Even in a society with fairly robust protections, as ours once was, the most dangerous misinformation is always, without exception, official.” 🙌🏻🙌🏻👊🏻

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I clicked like but that isn't true. We now live in an inverted totalitarianism system with the oligarchy and the largest corporations in charge and our government's carrying water for them. Big tech actually knows what's in your mind better than you do and they exploit it for more than selling you stuff you don't need that you buy with money you don't have. They are connected at the hip with the security state; you might call them Big Brother. The largest construction projects in the US are Data center's; 10s of billions worth; what do you think that's all about? You don't have to be a nut to question W T F is going on and what's the end game.

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"Big Tech actually knows what's in your mind better than you do..."

"You don't have to be a nut to question W T F is going on and what's the end game..."

1. Stuff that you don't need...

2. Stuff that you buy with...

3. Money you don't have...

If this isn't the end game, then what is? Or is it too frightening to lend words to?

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That's pretty much it. Although I don't know about Them being joined at the hip; it seems to me that they're more like a headless octopus with triple-jointed tentacles. But they're definitely joined. No one should confuse the result with omniscience; the data point connections are probably generating more noise, more misinformation, and more opportunities for overly ambitious and extravagant misinterpretation than if the overseers were simply operating in an admitted vacuum of ignorance. A condition which is at least humbling.

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Medicare is getting a substantial premium increase. Literally ~half the increase is for an Alzheimer's drug that A doesn't work and B where there was actually direct collusion between the FDA and the Big pharma corporation. Of course there's been regulatory capture since forever but this was a New low in criminality. I don't exaggerate, actual criminal behavior. Check it out.

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I checked it out. Interesting. Seems the FDA has been under fire from

Alzheimer patients and their families and Alzheimer advocates to approve SOME therapeutical drug that treats the disease and get it on the market. Seems dubious, insofar the drug (Adhulem, produced by Biogen Pharma) has been widely panned by neurologists, and only slows the onset of Alzheimer symptoms. Biogen has reduced the cost of the drug by half. No evidence of criminality.

A few snippets pulled from the links (worth a read) below that give a rather concise overview:

"...U.S. health secretary Xavier Becerra on Monday ordered Medicare to reassess a big premium increase facing millions of enrollees this year, attributed in large part to a pricey new Alzheimer's drug with questionable benefits....Becerra's directive came days after drugmaker Biogen slashed the price of its $56,000-a-year medication, Aduhelm, to $28,200 a year — a cut of about half."

"...There were previously no drugs cleared by the FDA that can slow the mental decline from Alzheimer’s, which is the sixth-leading cause of death in the United States. The agency has approved Alzheimer’s drugs aimed at helping symptoms, not actually slowing the disease itself...Federal regulators have faced intense pressure from friends and family members of Alzheimer’s patients asking to fast-track aducanumab, but the road to regulatory approval has been a controversial one since it showed promise in 2016."

"...Becerra's move came after prominent Democratic senators urged the Biden administration to take immediate steps to cut rising drug costs for seniors. Much bigger curbs on drug prices promised by Democrats are hung up in Congress along with the rest of President Joe Biden's massive social agenda legislation. That bill would cap at $2,000 a year the amount Medicare recipients have to pay out-of-pocket for medicines, require drugmakers to pay the government rebates if they hike prices faster than inflation, and authorize Medicare to negotiate prices for certain medications."

"...Aduhelm is the first Alzheimer’s medication in nearly 20 years. It doesn’t cure the life-sapping condition, but the Food and Drug Administration determined that its ability to reduce clumps of plaque in the brain is likely to slow dementia in its earlier stages. However, many experts say that benefit has not been clearly demonstrated."

"...Call In The Detectives: With the temperature being turned up on the agency, Acting FDA Commissioner Dr. Janet Woodcock, who was not involved in the approval decision, has asked the Office of the Inspector General to conduct an investigation into her agency over the matter. Biogen says it welcomes a probe."

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/medicare-told-reassess-premium-hike-alzheimers-drug-82178309

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/07/fda-approves-biogens-alzheimers-drug-the-first-new-therapy-for-the-disease-in-nearly-two-decades.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/aging/new-details-emerge-drug-may-slow-alzheimer-s-disease-n1096561

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/aging/fda-approves-controversial-alzheimer-s-drug-biogen-n1269645

https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/07/22/biogen-defends-controversial-alzheimers-drug-as-fd/

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Try spending $15 bucks on Public Citizen to find out what really happens in the drug approval process. It's basically a corruption based system in so many ways. Science says no; management overrules, drug makes money for Wall Street which is why they're in business. The difference between this drug/scam is the direct collusion. It's very much like the Boeing 737 max; the FAA got in bed with the corporation to a greater degree than before. The drug has not proven efficacious. This is NOT unusual for New meds that get on the market. What is New is the level of corruption and direct participation of the regulator? in the process. In China, the regulator and the CEO would be in jail where they belong.

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We've become numbly inured to the corruption that surrounds us in the U.S. The Chinese, on the other hand, are regularly reminded by their government that this sort of behavior quickly leads to a bunk bed in a Xinjiang gulag. So it's rare. On the other hand, you and I would be summarily dispatched to the gulag for little more than these two posts.

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Interesting point about data centers. Technology= loss of freedom.

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That would make a great motivational poster. (That's the cynic in me speaking.)

You can't interject principles into an amoral, and fundamentally nihilistic, social organizing system like neoliberalism. They are incongruent.

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The new S & M from big tech; Surveillance and Manipulation!

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Interesting linking disinformation and pornography. I imagine the cohort which most strenuously objects to misinformation is reliably indifferent to pornography, and almost certainly not responsible for its ubiquitousness. Conversely, it's a safe wager that the most ardent patrons of pornography are indifferent to disinformation and probably too distracted to care.

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true...I'm betting the cohort screaming about their liberty to not take the vaccine are anti-choice when it comes to abortion.

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To take a vaccine and to become pregnant are both choices (don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise) and to (potentially) die from a vaccine and to (affirmatively) kill an unborn baby are also choices. But the outcomes from those choices are quite different.

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Pretty sure censoring porn is just as bad as censoring anything else.

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I know it is - I look at what happened once Canada adopted the anti-porn laws Andrea Dworkin and Katherine MacKinnon got passed in Minnesota, only to have them struck down by US courts as "unconstitutionally overbroad".

Canada's Supreme Court said "True, but We Must PROTECT Women From the Evil Effects of Pornography!" Much of what they ended up censoring was either done by women for women, and a lot of the rest was only "porn" if you think ESQUIRE is beyond the pale, and PLAYBOY was obscene....

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And you can't be bothered to parent? You'd censor everybody because you refuse to take responsibility for your own children, but expect society to do your job for you?

I don't have kids - though my former Partner and I volunteered with a number of Profoundly Gifted ones, as former Gifted Children ourselves who dealt with the educational system not knowing what to do with us. So I have little to no sympathy for parents who blindly trust institutions with their children.

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It's people fucking, but in higher definition.

Incidentally, sex still leads to children. I'm sure more than a few of us were conceived in some relatively amorous conditions (November birthdays, anyone? Your conception date could very well be Valentine's Day).

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Porn is like anything else: you can indulge, but take care to watch for blow back.

Also, you're probably playing some really shit video games by yourself.

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“Fueling drug addiction”? So you’re saying that all porn stars are “drug addicts” (because why else would they fuck for money unless they were junkies, right?). Do you have any evidence that the rate of drug addiction is significantly higher in the porn industry than it is in, say, the restaurant business? Or any other business? I worked in restaurants for two decades and I can assure you that the majority of the people in that industry are either high, hungover or both.

I’m curious what you’re doing right now to stem the evil tide of drug addiction, since that’s what you really care about. “It isn’t porn; it’s the drugs that bother me.” That’s what you’re implying, correct?

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Your argument doesn't even make any sense, unless you're so censorious you think the only book anybody should read is the Christianist Bible.

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How about "weather porn"? Could use some now with the big snowstorm due to the NY City tomorrow!

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I agree, weather porn has replaced "if it bleeds, it leads". That is especially true where I live in New England where people clear all the grocery store shelves of bread and milk at the hint of a serious snowstorm.

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Real quick

Did they do a Sharknado where they all have COVID yet?

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At least everyone knows that porn represents fantasy, not necessarily real-world experience. And the few who don't realize that, I pity their partners.

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Probably not too many partners with the "true believers"

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You sound like someone who is hung like a baby carrot - my porn tapes are legit!!!

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Tapes?

A connoisseur is among us!

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Tapes are the real thing, it's all "Fake Porn," now!

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What? There’s nothing “fake” about the chick I just watched on xvideos getting the shit fucked out of her. That was real. Take your puritanical bullshit somewhere else.

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Actually, it might not be very real. Porn is theatrical, and like any theater, it is composed of illusions, or as one pornographer said, 'What happens in the studio has almost nothing to do with what you wind up seeing in the movie.' In other words, it's not different from other artistic media. If you doubt this, check with some of the people who do the work.

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Thank you, someone who understands my innocent comment. I cannot believe the responses I have received. Of course porn is fantasy, the makers of porn want to explore the fantasies of their consumers. I have no ill will towards porn or the consumers, however, I am aware of the effect that online porn has had on the sexual attitudes and expectations of young people and, like Barbie for young girls, it sets the bar pretty high. In any case, I certainly stepped in it.

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Jan 28, 2022·edited Jan 28, 2022

Obviously, a lot of the performers are probably exaggerating their enjoyment; they’re actors, after all. But I’ve known a few porn stars who really did like the work. They just like being sleazy (and getting paid for it), which I’m all for. I’m always FOR women feeling more comfortable doing the things they like to do, free of judgement. And, in a case of life possibly imitating art, every chick I’ve fucked in the last twenty-five years or so (probably around 400 women) has definitely been dirtier and more awesome than before, like, 1995. That could maybe have something to do with me and being comfortable with my own personal kinks, it could have to do with a generation-and-a-half growing up with easy access to porn. I don’t know. I try not to think about it or analyze it too much. But it’s definitely fun.

Re: what I said about the the chick I just watched on xvideos getting fucked being “real,” specifically: what I meant was, there was definitely a big dick in her mouth and pussy. That was real. It happened. It’s not “disinformation” or whatever that dipshit said.

I think it’s funny that anybody could watch porn and think,”There’s no way that’s what sex is really like…” Maybe not for y’all, but I fuck like a pornstar haha!

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I wasn't thinking how the actors felt about the work but rather that their behavior and mentality when they were working would be different -- more oriented toward its subsequent representation on the screen than toward getting pleasure out of it (or any other personal benefit).

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So what you’re really saying is,”It’s not possible that the woman getting fucked in this porn clip is enjoying this sex as much as she seems to be; she’s just pretending.” Which, bullshit.

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Great. Cool comment.

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You just go online to yell at people? Really, take your pathetic habits to the street where you can stand on a street corner and hurl epithets.

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Who’s yelling? There wasn’t a single exclamation point in my post. I’m laughing, actually. Laughing at you.

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Do not confuse things. Porn is porn, do not like it do not "use" it whatever it means Censoring people questioning the official narratives is suppressing political dissent and freedom.

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And Jew Hate too

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Love you bio!

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Sorry that as a human being I have opinions and the freedom to express them. I could continue by babbling incoherently about nothing, but you already covered that.

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You might not ever hear back from the fact checkers with that assignment.

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Hmm…. fact checker? A rich pool for pick up lines.

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Great article. As brutal as your description of the Covid clown show was, you understated it. Masks do not work. At all. Children are being harmed. This is a dire issue. We have to end the forced masking of children 7 hours a day while adults go to the bar down the street and drink for hours without a mask. Children are at virtually no risk. And vaccines and masks do NoT stop Omicron spread. The level of lying on masks is stunning. We need to demand this end right now!

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Jan 27, 2022·edited Jan 27, 2022

"Sweden decides against recommending COVID vaccines for kids aged 5-12" https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/sweden-decides-against-recommending-covid-vaccines-kids-aged-5-12-2022-01-27/

"Boris Johnson tells schools in England to end mask-wearing policy" https://www.theguardian.com/education/2022/jan/21/boris-johnson-tells-schools-england-end-mask-wearing-policy

Is that misinformation?

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Facts which contradict the narrative are the most dangerous of all.

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Funny how the only study(that I know of) came out of Bangladesh showing marginal effect of masks. Seems like an easy study to do

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This bothers me, too. You would think, since people in some east Asian cities have been masking for decades during flu season, that there would be a wealth of information available as to the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of the practice. You would think that public health officials in the West would be able to draw on this data to support their mask mandates. Or to call the whole thing off as useless, or -- middle ground -- to say masking is perhaps marginally effective so have at it if you wish. But no, we must obey the diktats of the Fauci -- for he IS science -- even after he flip-flopped and lied about it early on.

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They do call on studies that they have done themselves, which are so badly designed they are laughable. They are NEVER controlled, and are always small.

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Indeed the Arizona study on school children done by the CDC...absolutely farcical.

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Controlled studies are easy to do, and there have been dozens during the last hundred years. Every one showed that masks did not stop spread. Even the N95 masks do no good.

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Jan 27, 2022·edited Jan 27, 2022

@Linda—Agreed. And isn’t the takeaway that the n95 mask filter up to .3 to .5 microns while the viruses is .1 microns?

Additionally, there is no way that some air is not going to leak through the edges of the mask. (I saw somebody quoted 18% leakage). I imagine you can put some duct tape around the edges but then you would be breathing probably more triple the amount of carbon dioxide than normal, which in turn will eventually make you gumpy. Or maybe this is the ultimate goal:-)

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It is not only bad for your heart to keep breathing in your own CO2, but it makes you stupider. That's not a joke--the more CO2 you breathe in, the more intelligence you lose.

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You are not “breathing in your own CO2” as the mask allows for air to be freely exchanged, as witnessed by the fact that the mask does not cut off your oxygen. The mask, if well sealed, filters out the virus that may be in the air. It does not filter out air, or prevent the expulsion of CO2. The more bad science you are immersed in, the more intelligence you lose.

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I'm not going to get into it with you, John, but multiple scientific studies show you are wrong on both counts.

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Agreed. We seemed to throw out everything we believed and knew about respiratory viruses during this pandemic

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Here is an analysis of the data that shows both why the studies are hard to do and how the study itself showed masks don’t do anything. https://www.argmin.net/2021/12/01/unblinding/

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Indeed, it is relatively straightforward, but not easy, to determine whether masks can directly affect the wearer, very difficult, if it is possible at all, to show second degree or indirect effects. Besides, results of all the studies are so close as to be statistically insignificant. The rate of infection is so low that samples sizes would have to be larger than realistically possible to perform a truly controlled study.

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As far as I know, the Danish study was the closest to a decent study on primary control. Now I hear people betting on N95 as primary control, but I haven’t seen any trial studies. My own opinion is that the rational behind “my mask protects you” was lost when people realized the primary transmission was aerosols. Every time I look for studies on masks now, all I find is modeling or filter efficiency studies.

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There are lots of controlled studies, and even meta-analyses of studies. The CDC's own guidance for masks with the flu virus is that they don't do any good. The flu virus virions are larger than COVID virions. Both are airborne. Ergo, mask wearing is ludicrous. It was always ludicrous. They knew that in 1918, when they did a study comparing two cities, one of which masked and the other didn't. Flu spread at exactly the same rate. There have been dozens of studies since on masking, and they all show the same thing.

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Indeed, all these studies show there is no statistical difference in infection rates between a masked population and an unmasked population. The whole thing is government sponsored silliness.

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Oh well, when I go to work with COVID patients I still opt for an N95 and the rest of the PPE. So far I have been lucky not to get COVID given the apparent uselessness of said masks. I am reluctant to wander the ward without one. Would you go maskless in the COVID ward and am I just superstitious?

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I hope you are just an orderly because this comment shows a lack of critical thinking unbefitting of a health professional. You do know that the vast majority of health professionals have caught Covid, presumably many from their patients despite their use of N95s. Maybe you do have a magic mask.

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Jan 27, 2022·edited Jan 27, 2022

Well, I would presume you would want to follow the science, and as a health professional you would know that virions are much smaller than the weave of surgical or N95 masks, and since COVID is airborne, any mask that does not block virions or allows breathing would not contain them. Ergo...the fact that no controlled study has ever shown a benefit. But you'd know that, right, since you've read the studies? You do know that "I've always worn a mask and I haven't gotten COVID, so masks must prevent COVID" is not a legitimate study, right?

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Same holds true for ALL your coworkers, None have gotten COVID?

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I don’t know. Do you think ivermectin has cured somebody when they get Covid, take ivermectin, and feel better the next day?

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Here's something you might want to read. Links to hundreds of studies. https://palexander.substack.com/p/masks-for-children-the-evidence-indicates

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You have to take the mask off at some point, even an N-95. Then "Bang" goes that theory.

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True, although I think you should be able to see a difference in the rate of transmission between groups if the sizes were large enough. Quite a few people in any group would never be around people outside their household without a mask on. It’s obvious at this point that everybody is getting exposed.

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Maybe this is an issue of the definition of "mask." Here is a recent study from the Max Plank Instutute in Germany that shows FFP2 masks are highly effective.

https://www.mpg.de/17916867/coronavirus-masks-risk-protection

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Modeling.

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Substack newsletter idea for you: Writes "Chinese Spitting: Ancient Folkway, or Crude Habit Just For the Hell of It"

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Jan 27, 2022·edited Jan 27, 2022

This is a dangerous false claim. Masks (good ones) work are very effective at reducing your chance of getting infected. Children don't understand the consequences of their or their parents' actions, unlike well informed adults.

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Well informed adults know that there is NO reason to mask children.

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Those not in the Corporacratic Covid Cult.

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You are completely wrong. N95 masks have been mandated and complied with in Germany and Austria for a year, but their cases are surging. There is ZERO correlation between masking and low case numbers.

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Even N95 masks have to be worn and used correctly to have proper effect. And replaced often. If that's not done - and a lot of people simply will not do it properly - then effectiveness is poor.

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Here, let me translate for you, since I understand a little Arrogant Butthole myself. "If only THOSE people could and would do it right, then this whole virus thing would vanish. The poor, the ignorant, the unwashed, if only the goddamn PROLES would just do as they are told by their betters," you patronizingly explained in Upper Buttholese, "why then this whole pesky virus would vanish. Indeed." Then you sniffed and said, "Oh, pissboy, bring my bucket!"

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Sorry I came across that way to you. However, I was only pointing out a fact. N95 masks have to be used properly to work, and most people won't take the time to learn how.

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Sorry I came across so extra snarky. I think we're all a bit jumpy nowadays. Cheers and good tidings!

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What is the point of discussing if most average people know how to wear N95s correctly in a society where only maybe 10-20% of airplane passengers are even bothering with KN95/N95s?

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Amen bro

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so the old Socialism joke? They're just doing it wrong?

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Jan 28, 2022·edited Jan 28, 2022

A nurse told me this on Sunday, February 28, 2020.....seems to still be true on Friday, January 28, 2022. I remember the date because it's the last time we were all together! Masks are a joke and an entire generation of children will have suffered for no valid reason.

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You may be right, but just as a casual observation, I have been wearing a mask in public for the better part of the last two years. In that time I have not contracted a virus of any kind. That could just be coincidence, but I don't remember ever going even six months without getting something before this and I'm 64. My wife and my daughters and their families all have had the same experience. Maybe we've just been really lucky...

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Do you carry a tiger protecting rock? Because I would bet good money that you haven't been attacked by a tiger.

Correlation is not causation.

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More casual observation: I have, like you, mostly worn masks in public since early 2020. I have not had reason to suspect I caught COVID, but I've caught colds and flus and other bugs in that time.

I did go maskless this past summer on a visit to friends in places with higher COVID rates than my home area, among mostly mask-free people, and caught zip.

Earlier, friends of mine caught COVID despite being masked among the masked.

It's pretty clear mileages vary, and masks are no panacea.

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Have you been tested to determine whether you're immune to COVID? Because one of the biggest problems with this whole mess is that the propaganda has deliberately led people to envision the virus as worse than smallpox and the Black Plague combined. In fact, while it's not pleasant, it's usually no worse than any other bad cold or nasty flu. I know, because I've now had both major versions.

The fact that for many a bout of COVID can be totally asymptomatic has been carefully underplayed to reinforce the demand for masking and social distancing and running to get your increasingly useless vaccine boosters while saving up to buy more test kits when the government stops providing freebies. People like you and me (I just turned 74) are warned in tones of doom we're at risk of death if we don't obey.

Nevertheless, if you want to be a target for rabid hysterical condemnation, just tell people you've had it and it's not that bad. With the media pounding on "death tolls" every day for two years, the public conception is that anyone who got COVID was doomed. Now, as it becomes clearly that just ain't so, we're switching to the horror of "long COVID".

And now Pfizer is lobbying to make an annual COVID vaccine mandatory. The Great COVID Con marches on. #FollowThe💰

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I have had the same experience. Barely anything that qualifies as a cold in the last 2 years and never sick once. On the other hand, I also haven't been inside an office since March 2020, an airplane since 2019, or hanging out in crowded spaces inside or outside since then too. But I have continuously been with close friends and family - unmaksed.

While masks do help in stopping the spread of regular colds and such like, that we are physically interacting with far fewer people than before likely also plays a role.

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That is very similar to my own experience; in fact, I got one of the last boxes of N95 masks on Amazon (that I could find, late Feb 2020) and used those. It could be the mask, luck, natural immunity, or even having an asymptomatic infection. Who knows?

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COVID May yet turn out to be a nothing burger; less than a million deaths in a country of 330 millions over two years, mostly seniors OR it may mutate into the end of life as we know it scenario. The US killed millions in Vietnam and Korea alone and of course many more died in the few years of WW I & 2 and society survived and moved on. I believe that the likely scenario here will be the same but it's not beyond the range of possiblity that this could end society as we know it.

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This number, around a million deaths, is no longer valid per the CDC's revision downward based on clarification of 'Died WITH Covid' vs 'Died FROM Covid'. The new 'Died FROM Covid' is closer to 400K.

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Who knows what the truth is? Even with a worse case scenario it doesn't start to compare to cardio vascular or cancer or even the medical industrial system over time. Yes Virginia, the medical system is dangerous to your health; kill's hundreds of thousands annually. The number three killer according to the AMA.

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More misinformation & lies.

Out of the ~900000 deaths attributed to COVID the CDC says 90% of these the underlying cause of the death was the virus. For the other 10%, COVID was the contributing cause.

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Please try to stay up to date. Stale, out-dated propaganda does you nor anyone else any good. Try to do better.

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Medical personnel have been wearing masks in hospitals for more than a hundred years for nothing? I find that hard to believe.

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As a surgeon, masks and gloves in a surgical setting are worn primarily for preventing the spread of blood borne pathogens, not aerosolized viruses unless the blood itself becomes aerosolized through the use of high speed hand pieces and such. We are talking much different particle sizes for blood bound viruses that make masking effective, and Covid particle size which really does make most masking that I see Americans doing a totally silly enterprise. But of course nobody seems to want to get medical information from doctors these days.

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Jan 28, 2022·edited Jan 28, 2022

I’m an internist.

Worked in a TB hospital in Russia for about a year surrounded by MDRTB patients and wore a mask every day I was there, along with all the other doctors I worked with. Doctors have been wearing masks in TB hospitals for close to a century at this point, and no, it’s not because of “aerosolized blood particles”, because we’re not doing surgery while we’re on our rounds. Yes, some of our patients hemoptysize, but it’s a pretty unlikely event during an average clinical day and not the reason we wear masks, LOL.

You’re welcome to work in a TB hospital yourself without a mask, I’m certainly not going to try to convince you otherwise because you sound as though you have all the correct information already and don’t need any advice from me.

But as for me, I’ll continue with my superstitions if I go back and work there.

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You may be a doctor, even a good one, but you have angry opinions and clearly did not read what I wrote without prejudging or understanding it. First sentence I wrote: “in a surgical setting,” not “in a Russian TB hospital.” You should also read the rest of what I wrote because it is nuanced far more than your sledgehammer response. I read a ton; have two doctorates; treat patients everyday; travel to treat people on multiple continents charitably every year; and readily admit that I have far more questions than answers on this and many other medical topics. Anyone who thinks they have all the answers scares me tremendously. Unlike you did me, I refuse to insult you with an off-handed derogatory comment.

A meta analysis study in 2015 published in the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine concluded “overall there is a lack of substantial evidence to support claims that facemasks protect either patient or surgeon from infectious contamination. More rigorous contemporary research is needed to make a definitive comment on the effectiveness of surgical facemasks.” And that, in a peer-reviewed journal, sums up the spectrum of facemask research and knowledge to that date.

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"...in a surgical setting".

That's a key distinction he made there, doc. And a pertinent one, considering that doctors don't *normally* go around wearing masks outside of surgery "for hundreds of years", except when in the presence of an airborne pathogen. Like say, TB, and yes, Covid.

"We are talking much different particle sizes for blood bound viruses that make masking effective, and Covid particle size which really does make ***most masking that I see Americans doing*** a totally silly enterprise"

You're really trying to pick a fight when none is there to be had.

"...because you sound as though you have all the correct information already and don’t need any advice from me."

Yes, people generally don't want or need unsolicited advice, based on imagined scenarios no one was talking about, that conveniently allow that person to flout their completely unrelated experience. Thank you for your heroism, though. [golf clap]

"You’re welcome to work in a TB hospital yourself without a mask."

No, I'm going to guess that if he were working in a hospital that specialized in treating a *highly* dangerous airborne pathogen, he'd wear PAPR hood, and not a mask, based on NIH and CDC guidance. For those who might be wondering, "why not just a mask"? Well, as per those same guidelines, "• Some surgical masks *might* offer respiratory protection compared with not wearing a mask. Filtering facepiece respirators offer *more* respiratory protection than surgical masks, and powered air purifying respirator (PAPRs) hoods offer the best protection for most health-care settings".

Now, as for the the debate you *think* you're having, that "more protection" isn't really quantified, except as it related to "might offer". Whether that "more" is 1%, 20%, or even 50% (more than "might"), they sure as hell don't (can't) tell us.

"...I’ll continue with my superstitions if I go back and work there"

Seriously, you either responded to the wrong comment or you're putting words in his mouth, that one must seriously consider whether they're your own, subconsciously.

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FYI, I never believe anyone who claims they are a doctor and then pontificate upon their alleged personal experience. BTW TB is caused by bacteria, not viruses, and it has not been a serious public health factor for 50-70 years (except as a secondary infection with HIV patients) and is almost exclusively treated with an ambulatory model, not in hospitals, because extended treatment in a nosocomial environment has been implicated as a key factor in the spread of multi-drug resistant strains.

Of course, a real doctor would have known that.

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As Matt implies, some doctors have been doing their best to discredit each other.

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That does indeed make the conversation complicated, especially for people without medical training. It is unfortunate maybe, but as Matt also writes, each person deserves to say and write what they please. This is also why it’s important to evaluate the evidence that people have for their opinions and advice. If the issue, as with Covid, was a simple one, we would know it because the evidence would be clear and there wouldn’t be any public debate.

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I do believe I'll listen to that.

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Masks worn in hospitals are fitted to the face. They are also replaced frequently. They are worn in sterile rooms. They are accompanied by frequently replaced gloves. A mask that is not fitted is at best a prophylactic for a virus whose agents of infection are the size of Covid-19's. Frequently hand washing and room sanitation have a higher efficy than a standard paper or cloth mask.

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All very good points. Wow, you read intellectual authors and what-do-you-know - lots of intelligent comments by a nice group of intelligent readers. Much different from so many threads I’ve read elsewhere!

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If masks do exactly nothing, then why wear them at all then?

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To show your allegiance to the tribe.

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To virtue signal.

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To conceal your identity on the next looting spree.

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Because they hide my smokers wrinkles even though I’ve never smoked… so sunglasses and mask, I’m 39!!!?

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They are not required in most situations in my State. I keep a paper mask in my purse inside a ziploc baggie. If someone requests I wear one I will put that one on out of respect for their request and replace my 'emergency' face mask later. The used one is thrown away.

People are wearing them now, for the most part, because they have been terrified by Mass Media reporting that is frankly incorrect. Numerous scientific studies are finally surfacing that prove that.

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As already pointed out to you, they prevent the spread of blood borne contaminants as well as preventing spit, hair, mucus, and other debris from falling off the face and into the patient.

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There are more transmittable diseases in the world than C19.

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So?

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My response was to Adderholdt as to why masks are worn in hospital settings despite them not preventing transmission of aerosolized virus. I'm not sure why it doesn't appear that way.

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Surgical masks are worn to stop spit i.e. droplets. COVID is aerosol. Surgical masks do nothing to stop aerosol.

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Prove it. Else you are making this up to suit your apparent anti-masking agenda.

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Not any more of a false claim than yours? It is nuanced. Multiple MDs, psychiatrists, social workers, special needs advocates, parents, etc etc have spoken out and shown evidence, pointed at studies etc, that the harms of masking our children HEAVILY outweigh the risks... you just don't see/hear them in the news as their voices are supressed.

ESPECIALLY in this age of Omicron, cloth masks are virtually useless. N-95s must be fitted correctly, and then, yes, they may help a bit.... but even then, some virus particles WILL through. I'm an RN who's been working for 43 years... worn lots of masks over the years...

Masking children with "good masks" for coronavius is viciously cruel, and totally NOT evidence-based.

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Why is everyone in operating theater always wearing masks?

Would you you want them not to wear them when you are being operated on?

I do agree the issue is nuanced.

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No need to take my word for it... A quick googel search of NIH studies will give you plenty of discussion on this, ie: "Surgical face masks (SFMs) provide a physical barrier between bacteria of oropharyngeal and nasopharyngeal origin and an open patient wound. Wearing a SFM in the OR is one of many long standing preventative practices, yet controversy exists as to the clinical effectiveness of SFMs in reducing the frequency of SSIs."

In other words, surgical masks are for droplet precautions, and there are even still questions about how much they prevent infections in the OR. Moot point for Covid19, which is aerosol-transmittle.. surgical masks basically ineffective.

I think it intersteing that, as a non-medical person, you think of the patient side first...while as an RN, I think, "I don't want someone's bodily fluids splashing on my face!" It goes both ways.. LOL.. Just an intersting POV.

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Thanks, Grace. Since asking you the question, I went to the link posted below by @Mitch Barrie. It addresses the issue directly.

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According to my orthopedic surgeon, the surgical masks are worn in ORs to prevent sweat and saliva from their speech enter the part of the body being carved up. That’s it.

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Bingo! Someone gets it. It’s why they’re called “surgical masks.” As Fauci & others explained early on, the virus is carried in minute droplets, which few masks will stop, particularly not conventional masks that everyone is compelled to wear.

Read the fine print on the package. From the 3M Corporation: “This mask will not prevent illness.” The corporate hegemon speaks truth on occasion. It’s all part of the Global COVID Kabuki Theatre. Some truly enjoy playing their part; others not so much.

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Just walked out of Lowe’s where I was asked to mask up… my CO state and county have no mask mandates… I’m vaxxed and boostered ( with some weird side effects) , so I’m just saying NO. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

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They wear (sterile, one time use) masks to prevent bits of skin etc falling from their faces onto the open wound they created. There have been studies prior to 2020 showing masks don't prevent the spread of airborne respiratory viruses like the flu. Iirc, they studied nurses, who can be way more counted on to follow proper mask procedure than a general population being forced to do so.

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Asked and answered. See Wanderman's (a surgeon) post herein.

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Thank you! And suddenly Biden talks about distributing N95s like they were just invented…. Ever used a spray gun to paint a room, sand drywall or refinish furniture?? I’ve been using N95s for such projects for 30 some years……. So when COVID started, I made a bee line for Home Depot and bought N95s for my immediate family … I stopped mentioning it because I was ridiculed for being paranoid and causing unnecessary panic. Even my own GP gave me an eye roll…..so there’re still unopened in the front hall closet and now, they’re the must have standard…..

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I did the same thing and got lots of eyerolls and ridicule....from the same people who are now wearing a mask as they drive alone in their car.

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I think you know that most people wearing masks in cars are simply people so “not bothered” by the masks that they don’t even notice they have them on and simply forget to take them off.

But of course in today’s world everything is a conscious political act. I’m sure you’ve never accidentally continued to wear your hat in the winter while driving in your car, LOL.

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Yup…. Common sense is no longer common….

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But that’s partly the point… who cares if kids get covid? This is safety -ism to the extreme. It just breeds paranoid asthmatic pussies who think trauma is anything that makes them feel bad.

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Kids are supposed to get sick. That’s how our immune systems develop.

Basic science in the schools please.

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What? Have children learn how to think instead of simply obeying what they are told by the authority of SCIENCE!

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"Paranoid asthmatic pussies" are the one cohort that ought to be made to wear masks all the time, pandemic or no pandemic. Just my opinion.

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Haha maybe so. I’m not even against the US becoming a masking culture like Japan. Just don’t force it on me or my kids. I read about a girl with downs had a mask rubber banded to her face when she got off the bus

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Yes, lets restrict the breathing of people who have problems breathing.

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Please can you drop the hysteria? If Covid the cow’s claim is arguably false it is not dangerous. It is an opinion. Even when statements might be false, they are not dangerous. Suppression of opinion, now that is dangerous. Your point would be stronger if you left off the first sentence. We are all sick of “the sky is falling” rhetoric.

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We had children in schools for two years wearing cloth and surgical masks the CDC now says are essentially worthless against Covid transmission without any major outbreaks in schools. So why do they need N95 masks now? They did fine with essentially nothing.

Additionally, Germany and Austria mandated N95 masks for the past year and it made absolutely no difference. Cases are surging. Their numbers are identical to their neighbors.

In fact, there is ZERO correlation between high mask compliance and low case numbers. None.

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They did fine with literally nothing:

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/24/882316641/what-parents-can-learn-from-child-care-centers-that-stayed-open-during-lockdowns

Throughout the pandemic, many child care centers have stayed open for the children of front-line workers — everyone from doctors to grocery store clerks. YMCA of the USA and New York City's Department of Education have been caring for, collectively, tens of thousands of children since March, and both tell NPR they have no reports of coronavirus clusters or outbreaks.

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They are talking about March 2020 in NYC, before masks and when immunity was at its lowest. No coronavirus clusters or outbreaks.

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Thats from June 2020, 2 variants and an eternity ago. Not terribly helpful

Meanwhile, 1000 children have died from COVID.

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Yes, now covid is much more mild.

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If youre vaccinated.

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That doesn’t justify censoring speech.

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And Israel’s record vax#s and masks now has the highest rate of Covid.

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Prove it.

Meanwhile, a little science for ya - https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118

"Leffler et al. (29) used a multiple regression approach, including a range of policy interventions and country and population characteristics, to infer the relationship between mask use and SARS-CoV-2 transmission. They found that transmission was 7.5 times higher in countries that did not have a mask mandate or universal mask use, a result similar to that found in an analogous study of fewer countries (30). Another study looked at the difference between US states with mask mandates and those without, and found that the daily growth rate was 2.0 percentage points lower in states with mask mandates, estimating that the mandates had prevented 230,000 to 450,000 COVID-19 cases by May 22, 2020 (31)."

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LOL IF masks work at all, all they do is extend the duration of the crisis. Do you think those cases are STILL prevented a year and a half later?

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What's a few deaths if we can shorten the "crisis" eh?

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You're not stopping deaths in the first place. That's what people like you don't understand. You're just piling covid reaction deaths on top of covid deaths and pretend you're the moral ones.

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Watch people in public wearing their masks for 30 seconds and you understand why masks are worthless. People are CONSTANTLY fucking with them. Remember how rule #1 is DON'T TOUCH YOUR FACE???

It takes even less time for children.

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Aside from the whole Not Stopping the Virus thing, a huge problem with masks is the failure from a human perspective. Not everyone is going to worry as much as you do about the virus. And if they don't worry as much as you, they won't take your measures to defeat it as seriously.

There is a reason they refer to this as a collective action problem.

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Exactly. Science can inform but it can't make decisions.

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As an aside, science is at it heart a moral exercise. Anyone can collect data, but a person needs to make the decision to both share that data and to listen to other, conflicting data.

And those are ethical choices, which stem from humility and a moral decision to reach for the truth.

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You're speaking to the heart of the article I'm working on right now :) I'll let you know when it's done :)

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I urge you to seek out a Holocaust survivor and ask them what they think of mass mask wearing. I encountered an elderly Jewish couple in the grocery store… their words were chilling.

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You encountered a Jewish couple in the grocery store? How did you guys get to talking? And this “elderly Jewish couple” (who are apparently holocaust survivors? How “elderly” were they? They must’ve been toddlers during the Holocaust) equated wearing masks with Auschwitz? Really? That is chilling… It’s bullshit, but chilling nonetheless. Cool story.

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What?

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Mass fear mongering… controlling the population.

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Okay, well, the Holocaust was a little more than “mass fear mongering” and “controlling the population.” Tell us what they said, exactly. How did you guys even strike up a conversation? Some random old-ass couple just started chatting you up in the grocery store about how wearing masks and the Holocaust are one and the same?

You’re a liar. You never “encountered a Jewish couple” who survived the Holocaust in a grocery store. And wearing a mask isn’t even in the same universe as the Holocaust. Saying bullshit like that is insulting to anybody who has even a cursory understanding of the Holocaust (which you clearly don’t), never mind how insulting it is to actual Holocaust survivors AND the six million people who were killed in concentration camps.

Only a complete moron would equate the Holocaust with mask-wearing.

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I did. Many of them. Thanks for the suggestion.

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/anti-vaxxers-and-the-holocaust/

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Haven’t seen that study for viruses

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What is likely much more effective in preventing serious infections (because at this point we're all just gonna have to get COVID to really slow it down) - in the people who already have a very small chance of developing severe infections - is supplementation with vitamin C & D, quercetin & zinc, NAC, etc...

Optimizing immune health, in those that have reasonably healthy immune systems, seems obvious... but we also live in an over-medicated society in which pills and shots have supplanted nutrition in the minds of people as paths to health.

Humans lived largely outdoors since time immemorial...

When humans began living largely indoors their exposure to direct sunlight was dramatically reduced, and vitamin D levels suffered.

Mass vitamin D deficiency has probably been responsible for a variety of human diseases for a long time, as vitamin D is intimately linked with immune regulation and health.

There are decades of science into vitamin D levels and respiratory viruses, cancers, etc... but this science has been ignored, downplayed, trivialized, undermined, dismissed, etc.

The largest revelation for me in this time of COVID is that the science supporting mass vitamin D supplementation as a mitigator of respiratory disease has been there, and known... but the development/implementation of new medical technologies, as usual, was the (more lucrative) option chosen.

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Classic pseudoscientific nonsense. Unless you are suffering from Scurvy, Vitamin C isn't going to cure anything. If you arent vaccinated, you are an order of magnitude more likely to die from COVID than if you arent, and no amount of vitamin magic will change this. Please stop spreading misinformation.

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Do you think the antibodies you have are coming from inside the shots themselves?

"In previous studies, it is possible to verify that levels below 20 ng/ml of Vitamin D in blood serum are associated with a lower antibody response in viral infections [11-13], however, there is already evidence that the low level of Vitamin D is related to the appearance from autoimmune diseases, for example, systemic lupus erythematosus, multiple sclerosis and type I diabetes [14].

Vitamin D plays a role in innate and adaptive immunity [8] as it is essentials for the regulation of human genes and stimulates the production of catelicidin which increases the production of HCAP-18 and thus improves the function of cells such as macrophages and immunity innate. This relationship is associated between Vitamin D levels [12,13], for example, the expression of increased catelicidins and the intracellular death of Mycobacteria Tubercolosis and yet [2], there is an inverse association between low Vitamin D levels and increased infections in the upper respiratory tract [2,14,15] by flu viruses. Let’s remember that Vitamin D also influences the development of adaptive immunity by inhibiting the proliferation of B cells with differentiation and secretion of immunoglobulins that will supply the proliferation of T cells and thus results in a more pro-inflammatory response change from TH1 to anti-inflammatory TH2 cells [4,12]."

https://www.heighpubs.org/hjcv/ijcv-aid1010.php#:~:text=Vitamin%20D%20plays%20a%20role%20in%20innate%20and%20adaptive%20immunity,as%20macrophages%20and%20immunity%20innate.

(Also, please stop using the term "misinformation" as an excuse for your being too lazy to actually look up some of the science yourself... )

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Today in the WSJ they say of the CDC that “ It was late to understand that the virus spreads via tiny air particles, not larger droplets, which meant the CDC was slow to recommend masks. Then last summer, before the Delta variant emerged, it suggested people stop wearing masks.”

This is all backwards. Aerosols are NOT stopped by masking. While they are trying to unscramble the mistakes of the CDC, they add another. Masks are not working and need to be ended.

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This is flat out incorrect - KN95 and N95 masks are still very effective; however, cloth masks are not as effective against Omicron yet still better than nothing.

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Not true. They are not sized for children and children are not advised to wear then but the WHO. Germany and Austria have mandated these for all for a year and have the same surge in cases as their neighbors with Omicron. The way people actually wear these makes them as ineffective as cloth and surgical masks. The real world data from place to place shows no better results.

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N95s if fitted properly at all times MAY provide some protection although right now that is still folklore. But let's say it is the case, do you really think children are going to wear a properly fitted N95 all day? In this age of Omicron, said to be as infectious as measles, just a short time without the protection of a tight-fitting properly worn N95 leaves the alleged effectiveness almost nil. Oh and btw, please cite your source (i.e., a RCT or equivalent) for your statement that masks work. You won't be able to because there are none.

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Infected with what? Colds?

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"Dangerous claim"....."consequence of their actions"....."well informed"... LMFAO

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If kids have been wearing worthless clothes masks for two years without major outbreaks in schools, what is the justification for N95 masks in schools?

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The argument is the same as for communism: "It's not that masking/vax/lockdowns don't work it's that they weren't implemented correctly."

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Thanks for the non-sequitur.

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Thats a silly question - because nothing has changed in 2 years O_O

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The CDC has changed its stance on cloth and surgical masking. So that has changed. Based on that, and the fact there were few outbreaks in schools compared to community surges, there is not justification to improve mandatory N95 masking.

That said, if parents want their kids masked in N95 masks, they should feel quite safe since everyone is vaxxed and their child is masked.

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Within 24 hours, NYT, SF Chronicle, Atlantic and NPR publish arguments against mandating kids masking. The liberal bastion has been breached.

NYT: https://tinyurl.com/546c94da

Chronicle: https://tinyurl.com/2p962y8z

Atlantic: https://tinyurl.com/28xhk6hb

NPR: https://tinyurl.com/ppeh2nbh

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I pray you don't have children!

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I agree. This is the most urgent task. Our research team cited over 200 clinical studies showing how masks injure the wearer. Volume 1 of PDMJ.org We need to stop the forced suffocation of kids.

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I’m sorry, but I must’ve missed that news story about how a kid “suffocated” from wearing a mask. Can you link me to that story, please?

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Part 3 of the link I cited above gives evidence of the hypoxic and hypercapnic damage, aka suffocation, of mask-wearing, both clinical and laboratory evidence from peer reviewed studies.

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I think his article brings up the entire opposite point - that masks have worked in the past and the misinformation around them NOT working at all, purported by both Fauci and his Canadian equivalent Dr. Tam, originates from the start of the pandemic. There's more nuance now and variants than the start of the pandemic, but very few people wear the suggested N95 and the ones who do, a significant portion wear it incorrectly making it useless.

How are children harmed by wearing masks when in larger groups? I think you're making a false equivalency between the parents going against obvious recommendations and kids being forced to follow. The parents behaviour can be wrong as well - doesn't our reality kind of undermine the entire use of masks and make any data nonsensical? In different regions worldwide when restaurants get more lax policies on masks, cases go up and you are acting like that's a grand coincidence? Isn't that misinformation for you to make a universal assumption? You're also generalizing pretty far, and making quite the eye-opener, when you say that children are being harmed by masks, but at virtually NO risk of COVID.

Comparing vaccines and masks is fundamentally wrong, they have different functions. One is to limit the amount of spread of recycled air in public, a mask, and the other is to prevent serious effects of COVID, a vaccine. Even comparing two mask wearers is folly, even if they have the same type, because they interact with it differently and may wear it in ineffective ways. Yes, vaccines can limit spread, but that's because it mutes the effects and kills off the virus - it still physically spreads it just gets dealt with.

Caring about wearing a mask is an individualistic stand point on freedom, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's such a minor limitation that it doesn't really bother most people so they don't give a fuck. We accept limits on freedom all the time, especially children who are literally forced to do 99% of things in their life and have no concept of freedom in a society. We indoctrinate them to societal norms, denial of any semblance of relativism, to our made up concepts of universality in an institution for 12+ years - and you're worried about the influence of a mask? Lol Matt's articles are fantastic, but the comment section and their interpretation always concern me.

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Masks do not work. Masks delay speech in children. Breathing in a mask for 7 hours is bad for children. Especially children with learning disabilities or asthma, etc. breathing in a mask is harmful during sports. Sitting outside alone is harmful. There is zero correlation between high mask compliance and low case numbers. The most masked places have the same Omicron surges as the least masked. There are no studies that show strong evidence of masking children significantly impacting case numbers. Schools all over the world have been open for a year or more without mask mandates and have not seen surges in cases. If kids wore non-effective cloth masks for two years without significant surging cases in schools, they got along fine with nothing. There is no justification for far more restrictive N95 masks 7 hours a day. That’s absurd. Children are at very low risk. There is little or no benefit from N95 masks for schools. And when will it end? Masking for flu? For Covid every winter? An entire generation of children are being harmed and missing out of their childhoods. It’s disgusting that people minimize this.

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What evidence do you have children are being harmed? Is it worse than death?

You keep repeating this nonsense with no evidence. Here's another meta-study for you about mask effectiveness:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33431650/

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Sitting outside alone is my only activity other than sitting inside alone. I like them both. If you're harming yourself sitting outside alone, perhaps your sitting-outside-alone technique requires some buffing. Or perhaps updating.

Sitting outside alone has changed a great deal since it first caught on as a viable-- if mind-cauterizing--activity several hundred thousand years ago. There are many excellent YouTube videos dedicated to safe sitting outside alone, best practices of sitting outside alone, and even how to best think, while sitting outside alone, of the many activities you could engage in with other people if you weren't always sitting outside alone. Doing your best not to harm yourself.

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Schools on the East Coast with extremely cold conditions have kids sitting outside and social distancing to eat their lunches. There are many articles about this.

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Here is what we should actually be doing...

1) Increase availability of early treatments

2) Stop asymptomatic testing

3) End contact tracing

4) End mask mandate

5) End vax passports

6) No school closures

7) End 10 day quarantine

8) Remove plastic barriers

9) Stop scrubbing surfaces

10) Under 65, return to normal!

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Sitting outside alone is “harmful”? How? What does that even mean?

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"Masks do not work. Masks delay speech in children. Breathing in a mask for 7 hours is bad for children. Especially children with learning disabilities or asthma, etc. breathing in a mask is harmful during sports." These are opinions, not a fact and there exists no universal mandate. I have asthma and am fine in a mask. I'm confused on why you say "Sitting outside alone is harmful." It's not even a coherent line of thought.

There is a correlation between high masks and low cases - in fact it's pretty substantial. "The most masked places have the same Omicron surges as the least masked" This is blatant misinformation, did you even read the article? Do you understand that saying a statement that you feel is true, doe not make it universally true?

"Schools all over the world have been open for a year or more without mask mandates and have not seen surges in cases" I seriously challenge you to show some actual evidence. Have they been testing students at the same rate as everyone else? The last year the kids have been out of school for half the time, there wasn't Omicron or delta a year ago. Your observations are very biased.

"There are no studies that show strong evidence of masking children significantly impacting case numbers" are there studies showing they harm? Has there even been any reasonable amount of time to conduct such a study?"If kids wore non-effective cloth masks for two years without significant surging cases in schools, they got along fine with nothing." Kids died, what are you talking about?? A lot ended up sick or with "Long COVID" and severe impacts long term. You're actually being delusional.

"There is little or no benefit from N95 masks for schools. And when will it end? Masking for flu? For Covid every winter? An entire generation of children are being harmed and missing out of their childhoods. It’s disgusting that people minimize this. " What future are you creating to delude yourself? How are an entire generation missing out on their childhood? You mean some creation of childhood that you have in your head? People are evolutionary and adaptive, such a brain dead take. The kids are fine, they will adjust just like previous generations before them did when their parents took away various freedoms. If you're actually this worried about the children, and I mean this from a logical view, you really should be out there everyday protesting for an end to child labour and sex trafficking - but instead they are just the ends to a mean for an argument against masks. It's disgusting that people take advantage of them like that.

Listen, you can totally be anti-mask, that's cool. But at least be consistent and GENUINE about your argument. This whole "Think of the children" thing is an ethically disingenuous argument. Just say you don't like them and you don't think your kid should have to listen to the state on it. Be based. It's way more honest. No need for bullshit.

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You are not up to date on the science. There are many studies showing speech being delayed. Many showing the lack of efficacy of masks. School guidelines in many areas force kids to sit alone outside in the cold to eat their lunches. For the data across counties, states, regions and countries showing the same or worse results in the places with high mask compliance, this forum does not allow me to post screen grabs of grids, which demonstrate this. But I will direct you to some links.

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Lmao if speech is delayed - which I think you mean learning to speak? - that's 99% a parenting issue and from unstable learning environments. The "studies" you linked below are a joke - they don't have any controls or aren't studies, just a line of cases and correlation between masks and cases as if no other externalities exist. Isn't it odd that cases spike at all major holidays - where families meet unmasked? Think critically of the information you consume, don't let bias win.

"School guidelines in many areas force kids to sit alone outside in the cold to eat their lunches. For the data across counties, states, regions and countries showing the same or worse results in the places with high mask compliance" Those "studies" are DOG shit and not studies! Correlation =/= causation. They aren't studies at all, it's just how many cases we have and policy on masks lmao it's all relative and you can cherry pick whatever you want when you're only crossing two variables and picking locations to suit your narrative. I'd urge you to take a stats course at your local community college.

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