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JennyStokes's avatar

This maybe true before the Internet BUT now we have lies and more lies! IF you are uneducated like the US how do they make the distinction?

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justamom's avatar

If they are so uneducated why are they even allowed to vote-but I guess there has been an active movement afoot to "help" people vote the "correct" way.

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Danno's avatar

This is their ideal "voter". A dead or incarcerated person, whose votes they can cast on their behalf.

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Lekimball's avatar

Yes, this has always been the problem. You can't take away someone's right to vote, and it appears, we can't stop evil people from manipulating people who aren't informed or don't understand. No good answer, though I tend to put my faith in the ultimate wisdom of people. You have to or you get elitist liberals.

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Paulette Altmaier's avatar

Totalitarians calling themselves liberals, you mean

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Lekimball's avatar

Yes, but the problem is there are no old school liberals anymore and the "liberals" are buying the totalitarian crap.

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Danno's avatar

Matt's an old school liberal.

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Lekimball's avatar

Yes, I think he's one of about three now. I thought he called himself an Independent now, didn't he?

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Danno's avatar

Well, the Democrat party establishment certainly isn't liberal any more. At least as I would define it. They've gone neocon.

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Ollo Gorog's avatar

I don't think it's an education thing as much as a life experience thing. Their behavior seems genuinely based on fear of difference, and fear of 'the other', just like a child that keeps one arm around it's Mom's leg when a stranger is too near. Maybe this is the coddled, helocoptered, etc, generation(s)? Maybe life is just too scary without that leg to wrap their arm around?

My generation itched to get away as fast, and far away from home and parents as was economically possible. We couldn't wait to get out from under that big thumb. I think these generations are comforted by 'the thumb'.

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Stephen's avatar

Maybe wealthy families have the luxury of helicopter-style parenting.

Every generation wants to blame the younger one.

But, for us un-wealthy, we must rely on the state to help us parent, or go broke.

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Ollo Gorog's avatar

True that. My parent's generation looked at us like hoodlums just because we wanted to have some fun.

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Deb Barnhart's avatar

Education does not confer good judgment.

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novalvesprings's avatar

I guess only people cut of your cloth can decipher truths. Yours is the common battle cry of people that are used to having their biases stroked by a media devoid of critical thinking and journalistic integrity. The new media didn't happen in a vacuum. It's a response. It's not going away but not to worry, you can go back to the comfort zone of your truths.

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BigGuy49's avatar

They make the distinction the same way all of us have learned to discriminate between truth and lies: we pay attention to what is claimed and then we pay attention to whether or not that eventually is proven true or false by actual events. Obviously there is no short easy path to learning who to trust; one must live awhile and remain keenly observant.

OTOH, the internet is a highly beneficial tool to research credibility of sources by finding out if what they've claimed in the past (using multiple sources) ultimately was proven to be correct or false. There are no "Clif Notes" to this process. However you can ask others whose opinion you DO trust (because they have previously given you information that turned out to be accurate.) The more often their information is proven accurate, the more reliable source they may be.

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Danno's avatar

Don't pay attention to any of the "fact checkers". They are the exact opposite.

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Kathleen Intile's avatar

There may be lies and more lies but there is also truth and more truths. DidnтАЩt really understand your statement that the US is uneducated I found that to be a ridiculous statement.

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justamom's avatar

But maybe many of the "educated" are just indoctrinated. I'm old enough to remember when the joke was that a liberal arts degree qualified you for a job where you asked "do you want fries with your burger?"

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Danno's avatar

If you read her post in the best possible light, I think she has a point.

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Paulette Altmaier's avatar

So YOU are the one to distinguish between truth and the lies? Like lockdowns are scientific? Like masks work? Like if you are vaccinated you don't get sick and you don't transmit? Like everyone is at risk from covid? Like those "truths"?

Giving ANYONE the power to determine truth is the same thing as ceding totalitarian power to that person. Seriously are you this uninformed? You call others uneducated, but I'm afraid you should look in the mirror?

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Janet Schwappach's avatar

So...educated and uneducated? ;-)

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