What a terrible trauma the Democrats have wreaked on innocent people in their zeal to hold onto power by any means necessary. We always say, "Yeah, but nothing will be done about it." Let's hope this time, the team assembled by Trump to specifically DO SOMETHING about it, will succeed. If not, America is done.
What is being called for here is what is well known in academic circles as transitional justice, a series of actions to “do something” after a democracy succeeds a dictatorship. Trials, truth commissions, lustration (forbidding complicit officials in past lawfare/repression from holding public office again) are all part of the toolkit. If we are to break the power of the Democratic Party-aligned security state quasi-dictatorship that bared itself the last 8-10 years and restore the rule of law, then these policies will be necessary.
Some of them published classified information leaked to them. Include them in early investigations and convene grand juries to investigate these crimes. They may not be so open to publishing any propaganda they receive from any politician in the future. They may, as institutions, revive some journalistic standards.
Absolutely Jerri. There is no doubt that the new administration will use all available legal tools to sever the deviant chumming between government and media that both have become accustomed to. Each will have to finally do their jobs without the venal aid from the other. I know my hopes are high, but I’m all in on forging on and pulling all the bad weeds.
Interestingly if RFKjr can push through a ban on pharma advertising directly to consumer, something not directly related to Russiagate, the MSM will be obliterated almost overnight. Big pharma is a massive portion of their revenues.
If one wanted to learn more about the phenomenon of transitional justice, where would you point them? This is very interesting to me. Thank you for that post.
The book “Radical Evil on Trial” (1996) by Carlos Nino, a legal scholar who designed one of the most innovative transitional justice policies of the 20th century, is also good.
Chile transitioned from Pinochet by exposing the extrajudicial murders and torture that had happened during his regime. It took a while for those who had looked the other way to admit that those things had taken place. The most important aspect of that transition was the official acknowledgment that the wrongs had indeed happened. It was necessary for both perps and victims to know they are seen.
We have an entire political party in America dedicated to domestic terrorism, and while they controlled our executive branch, the FBI et al declared that by definition, only the opposing party could be guilty of domestic terrorism.
12/10/24: In NYC, it was the black KKK leader Bragg who tried (and failed) to lynch Daniel Penny. The Democrats (wrong name!) in WDC for four years have done the same thing to America, and to a horrifying extent, have succeeded. How can this be reversed and repaired? How can the past victims of the Biden Crime Family Syndicate / Pelosi / Schumer / Schiff / Wray / Garland / Mayorkas / DEI Pentagon / Fauci / Mainstream Media's pervasive and lethal corruption be compensated?
Whoa there. Fauci is one of the top 10 most cited scientists in the world. I worked with him in NYC. He was scrupulously honest and decent. Are you sure your murderous stance isn’t a product of scurrilous misinformation?
That may have been the case when you knew him. But his actions during Covid wreaked havoc and likely because he was acting in self-interest. Protecting his actions in illicit support of gain-of-function research with Wuhan.
As suspected. Covid did not originate in Wuhan. See this week’s Nature and the Laotian bat story which actually does contain the closest link. This makes the gain of function story moot. And look at all other gain of function research. How did you get to where you are on this? The story you desire seemingly is full of holes. Note how it’s never made it through peer review in a top journal.
Bunk. The scientific establishment has zero--zero--credibility on this. But there will be a whole gang of people pushing lies to cover their collective asses. With you helping them.
"Peer review": that's when some people with advanced degrees people validate the flawed work of other people with advanced degrees. I know how this game works, I've been in it for decades. It's all about jobs, grants, and publications. Scientific truth is, at best, a distant fourth.
"Top journal" huh? You mean like The Lancet, that famously came out early on in the pandemic and attacked anyone who deviated form the party line? That sort of "top journal"?
I haven't yet read the above articles. From the start, everyone identified Wuhan as ground zero. Coincidentally, a lab only a few miles away was adding function to make base viruses find a friendly home in humans. The spike protein happened to be perfectly engineered for it. It had never been naturally created. Arriving at one with enough similarity to a naturally occurring one in order to develop a vaccine seemed like trying to find a needle in a haystack 5 miles into a cave covered in batshit. And the risks....
Comparing the two theories at the beginning pointed to a lab leak out of logic if nothing else. Yet Fauci ignored early evidence lending credibility to a lab leak. He had tremendous skin in the game, having funded it. Magically, a story appears in, yes, nature that claimed to debunk the lab theory when prevailing evidence indicated otherwise
Our government, including Fauci, and msm, big tech, etc used the piece to not just control narrative. They banned anyone from saying otherwise. In a free speech country. I guess that's what all good scientists do, right?
Fauci lied about masks. Which btw have holes hundreds of times larger than the virus molecule. A 5 year old understands chain link fences don't stop misquote. Yet our top 10 scientist successfully embedded the opposite, outright mandating a useless piece of cloth. He brainwashed half the population in the process
He lied about school closures. He lied about the danger to kids. He lied about the effectiveness of the vaccine. It would be easier to list the things he didn't lie about
He was on TV everyday. It was the most important thing in the world. Science speaks!
Now that someone questions him, gosh he really can't recall when he found out about it. Hmmm, not sure who signed off on the funding. Yeah, I don't really know that guy in North Carolina
Quoting Hillary, at this point what difference does it make!?
That's what we get from our smartest and brightest, who get to fuck up royally with no consequence
I'm glad you had a good experience with him. The American people clearly haven't, and we deserve to know everything about perhaps the world's biggest disaster. And I'm not in a very forgiving mood
Did not originate in Wuhan except that it did. I don't trust the rag Nature any more than I trust Fauci, who lied again and again to the American people in order to manipulate them into following drastic government mandates that soaked up trillions in borrowed taxpayer money.
Anthony Fauci may be a "top cited scientist" - but that is most assuredly because of the purse strings he controls, as he is not a brilliant scientist. He also is neither honest nor decent. I say this after observing his actions during the AIDS years and during the COVID years and then observing the truth finally come to the surface. Fauci is remarkably dishonest, and likely a criminal. RFK,jr has written 2 books, both meticulously footnoted, that describe the monster known as Anthony Fauci. Read "The Real Anthony Fauci" and "The Wuhan Cover-Up" for the truth about this man; I fear you are the one who's seriously misinformed.
He was the gold medallist in his med school class at Cornell if that helps. Purse holding came late and was in recognition of his scrupulous honesty. Shame on you.
With respect, George, I lost trust in Dr. Fauci almost immediately when he went on TV and said N95 masks wouldn't help ordinary people, and that they should be donated to hospitals.
He admitted this was a "noble lie". Another case of which is when he self-admittedly made up the percentages of vaccination required to achieve herd immunity. He kept raising the percentages to encourage further vaccination.
And these two are just the lies he's admitted to.
One problem with Dr Fauci is that he is willing to look you in the face on TV and lie to you, in what he perceives to be the interests of Public Health. He believes that he can divine the "public good" and is willing to deceive the public in pursuit of it.
But his approach is counterproductive. He destroyed trust in Public Health using these techniques. I'll never trust anything he says again, without verification. So much for that scrupulous honesty.
And shame on you for carrying the water for the American Dr Mengele. But I'm sure you will be rewarded in some way or another for your loyal service to the not-so-good doctor.
When the CDC recorded "covid deaths" they included death WITH covid as well as deaths FROM covid which exaggerated the number of covid deaths. Another way to manipulate the country into going along with the control freaks. I don't care what kind of medals Fauci won in college, calling him scrupulously honest is a joke. He quoted the CDCs covid deaths number often in his propaganda
I intended to respond to this comment but mistakenly put it above. See? It's OK to admit mistakes. The covid fiasco contained a pacific ocean's worth. We're left empty handed while the covid celeb retires to a comfortable life with a Christmas collection of bobble heads
Obviously you know him. I don't. He seems like a great cocktail party guest. He may believe he did everything he could. Putting the orgin mess, the 6 foot rule (preventing loved ones from visiting dying parents), etc aside, he had a direct conflict of interest- a massive one- and he didn't disclose it despite acting as covid narrative setter. That alone is highly unethical and dishonest. That's all the rest of have to go on
Scrupulously honest? Guess you forgot about him lying to Congress about funding Gain of Function research. And no, that is not "scurrilous misinformation."
Anybody who climbs to the top of the DC bureaucratic totem pole the way Fauci did is, by definition, not "scrupulously honest."
"Totem Pole?" Doesn't work metaphorically. Bureaucrats, whether scrupulously honest or not, most always use ladders when climbing to the "top."
To be a successful careerist one must step "over" other competitors incrementally to get to the "top." Shimmying solo up a First Nation odoodem you take the risk of being confused for a grasping social climber, not a serious careerist.
I doubt very much if it was a lie. What is funded is so vast and so detailed I’d bet he simply didn’t know. Most of us couldn’t recall the details of any specific proposal a few weeks after the review panels meet. You’re way off base here. Why?
He also controls the purse and scientists must bow to receive funding. If what I believe occurred with COVID has occurred the man deserves to be executed for crimes against humanity. We don’t know 100% for sure, the media being absolutely useless doesn’t help.
He granted funding to EcoHealth. They conduct GOF research at a shoddy lab in China. Incidental (or possibly intentional) release of manifested pathogen. MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE GLOBE DIE (this is why he must be executed for crimes against humanity). He runs cover for himself all the while being treated like a celebrity (this is why his death will make me smile).
Or maybe not… I vote for unleashing fruit flies on him after we remove his vocal cords. What you call murderous stance I call the demands of Justice.
First we Americans must understand what kind of government we really have and how it operates. This didn’t come out of nowhere. It was merely the levers of government turned inward on domestic politics. Our dirty tricks go back a long way.
if they are not held to account for their crimes against the people they will be back and worse than ever. it is a moral and ethical responsibility to hold them accountable for those that come after. how can we leave such a mess for the future generations.
I think Trump was honestly surprised and overwhelmed at what came his way from the deep state dems after 2016 and didn't know how to effectively fight back. I do not think the same can be said now. From eveything I am seeign, he has already hit the ground running and is going to be relentless. I can;t wait to see it.
Trump did not do so in his first term, which was the right thing to do. But now, that the plot has been revealed, don't assume the same for the second term.
C'mon Feral, Trump's debate comment was a flippant response to Hillary's comment on his "temperament." Grammar police: "You'd be in jail" is a subjunctive mode, not imperative. It was a hypothetical, not a promise.
Yes, you can call balls and strikes on Trump, but in doing so, you must remember the first principle: Take Trump seriously but not always literally. If you watch much baseball, you know that the umps don't always call balls an strikes correctly. I think that's the case here.
You really think that Trump was playing lawyer games with words? Are you seriously arguing that this wasn't a threat, like "nice business you got there, shame if it burned down..." isn't clearly a threat.
And he certainly did nothing to discourage the idea that HRC would be (justifiably) locked up.
I haven't seen much evidence of this. Look at Haley, who was a never Trumper in 2016 until Trump won, then she ingratiated herself into his good graces and was named UN Ambassador. From this position, she worked tireless to undermine his stated agenda, until she resigned and spent the rest of the first Trump Administration badmouthing Trump.
Then she ran for President as The Great Neocon Team R Hope in 2020, then was forgiven again.
It appears you have confused 'thinking' with 'feeling'. To the statement "Trump is a vengeful man", I see more confusion from you. Clearing up the record and one's personal reputation is not in itself vengeful. Some would even say, it's justified.
Trump clearly viewed the 2016 primary as a game, and that sat along with the nonsense about Ted Cruz's dad, etc. He walked back the Hillary stuff immediately and said she suffered enough. He likely still viewed himself as friends with them.
Seems pretty personal now, after they've tried to destroy him with selective justice.
America was done when JFK was killed. The cabal took out Nixon cause he wouldn't play their game. It took out VP Agnew first so it could install Ford. The trap set for Nixin worked. You believe what you are told to believe.
This can get to be a bit of a game. You could go further back to the Spanish American war in 1898 as the beginning of imperial America. but yes, Wilson was when shit got real. That administration disrespected free speech and set race relations back, to put it mildly. But our current national security state was created by Truman. Eisenhower was the first enthusiastic user of its covert powers. Whoever planned and executed the JFK killing, powerful people in the USG were able to adequately cover it up, not the least because it helped cement their power. Nixon knew shit but wasn’t their boy. Ford was. Reagan was enough of an outsider that he almost got taken out, but the intel boys found a way to work within his framework. GHWB and the intel boys got another chance at big power on 911, this time to secure hegemony worldwide via the forever war on terror. At home, Americans lost even the right to know what the national security state was up to. IMO
Actually, "imperial America" began with the Treaty of Paris in 1783 ending the Revolutionary War. Along with independence, it expanded the claims of the new US to the Mississippi River. And the rest, as they say, is history.
I see that as a good thing for the people and the future of industry, innovation and prosperity, aside from slavery.
The revolution was not fought because of taxes. It was fought because In the mid-1700s the American Colonies were prospering, in part because they were issuing their own money called "Colonial Scrip," which was strictly regulated and did not require the payment of any interest.
When the bankers in Great Britain heard this, they turned to the British Parliament, which passed a law prohibiting the Colonial Scrip, forcing the colonists to accept the "debt" or "fiat" money* issued by the Bank of England.
According to Benjamin Franklin, it was because "the conditions so reversed that the era of prosperity ended." "The Colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters had it not been the poverty caused by the bad influence of the English bankers on the Parliament, which has caused in the Colonies hatred of England and the Revolutionary War."
Why Wilson yes, but wait, I recollect it was Lincoln. Shame his dear wife killed him. Poor gal, Congress would not approve her pension, even after three requests.
OK Shelley, you got me: in what world did Mary Todd Lincoln kill her husband? Yes, she was a battle axe, but I don't think she actually used it on him. Help me out here...
Mary was an opium addict. The Rothschilds planned to kidnap Abe. Booth was to do it. There was a waiting wagon with a wood-cover down below in the street. The plan was for Booth to traverse the backstairs entrance, silently move down a hallway, and open an unlocked door to a darkened room where Mary and Abe were sitting. After entering the room, Booth would tell the President an urgent message was waiting for him at the War Department. Before descending the backstairs, Abe would be knocked out with a chloroform cloth. The kidnappers would load the limp body into the covered wagon and swiftly stow Lincoln on an opium boat for a novel 'cruise' of the Atlantic Ocean.
When Booth actually opened the door to the darkened room where Abe and Mary were sitting, he went into a panic and shock. Abe was asleep with his head on Mary's left shoulder and the First Lady had her head turned toward the left looking at the door. . . When she was sure the man who opened the door was Booth, she turned and looked at the President to be sure the pistol she was pointing would explode beneath the lower left earlobe of her husband. Before Mary pulled the trigger, John Wilkes Booth, drug supplier to the First Lady, realized he was the patsy in all this mess. But he did not know if he was only Mary's patsy or also a chump for the Rothschild family.
Yeah, Tom, it's Woody Wilson who's most to blame for the Nat Sec State. He started the shitty ball rolling. Truman and the rest just followed his precedent.
Since the Civil War our current federal government has been operating under the rule of National Emergency - thus the executive order. President Lincoln as military commander issued Executive order number 1. Wilson's original 1917 Act (a/k/a The Trading with the Enemy Act or War Powers Act) which was "An Act to define, regulate, and punish trading with the enemy, and for other purposes", originally excluded citizens of the United States, but the Act of March 9, 1933, Section 2 amended this to include "any person within the United States or any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof" - under FDR.
Here is an example of the power of declaring a National Emergency: All created by FDR and NOT Congress part one:
Exposure of the evil done by these miscreants should be the first agenda item for Kash Patel. Following that, prosecution of the most egregious criminals should be pursued, financially destroying them before their long term incarceration. This must be done to eliminate future lawfare initiated by Democrats.
While it may not appease those who want retribution, one creative “transitional justice” (see my other comment on VanishingTribe’s post) strategy is what South Africa did post-apartheid:
Offer amnesty from prosecution in exchange for public confessions of involvement in lawfare. Prosecute those who don’t confess. This creates a win-win: getting through to the Democratic base what actually happened from 2015 onward, and holding accountable those who won’t admit their complicity in it.
Yes - this kind of action is called a mass “self amnesty” and is something dictatorships regularly do on their way out of office. The empirical parallels to democratic transitions in foreign countries I have seen here in the last two months are uncanny.
Much like the Constitution, pardons are pieces of paper. Gentlemen's agreements that only bind those who play by the rules, and thus will likely become increasingly meaningless.
^This! It would be far more effective. It prevents what will inevitably happen otherwise where the media will hyperventilate over Trumps destruction of the Rule of Law and unholy use of the justice system in retribution (no self-awareness of course) permitting the Democratic base to continue believing in some version of Russiagate (there are plenty out there who do) and Orange Man bad. As hard as it is to understand the dying legacy media still has the power.
12/10/24: Now that Biden has legitimatized preemptive pardons, can Trump be persuaded to do the same on Day One for the people who (above) are innocent of any wrong-doing, whose lives have been destroyed? Or are we Russians?
Go after the 51 IC leaders immediately by merely revoking their security clearances entirely with no chance to appeal.
Then go after the people involved from the FBI/DOJ/NSA/CIA who were involved in the entire Crossfire Hurricane. Patel knows where the bodies are buried.
Then go after the professional class like Glenn Simpson, Marc Elias, Christopher Steele and Halper who set up the Papadopolous, Carter Page sting...then go after the swamp creatures like Vindman and the others who leaked the Ukrainian calls...then freeze out the media people entirely.
Tell George Stepinitopolous to pound a gyro...Tell Margaret Brennan she need a new Vampire lift....tell Jim Acosta and others to go pound sand.
Then start to look at the state level scum like Bragg, James, Merchan, and Fat Fannie Willis.... Make them all lawyer up.
Need to move on this fast and run it in almost a shadow FBI/DOJ team truncated from the rest of the FBI/DOJ.
12/10/24: "Go pound a gyro!" Original! And the comment as a whole is exactly what Kash Patel has in mind. How long will it take to staff a brand-new DOJ in order to get all of this underway?
Deranged people will see confessions as compelled and prosecutions as vindictive. Nothing can bring their understanding into alignment with reality. The identity of the deranged is tied to their politics, not to a recognized religion. Atheist suffer the most because they do not have a religious buffer on their identity.
Fair, but you only need to persuade 20-30% of the Democratic base to have a supermajority of the public aware of and rejecting what happened in Russiagate. Push someone at the level of a Clapper or Brennan (wishful thinking I know) to confess in writing and air it on the networks, and you’d hit that number easily.
Nixon’s pardon was for past crimes committed. This talk of some sort of “preemptive pardon” is an outrage. It’s a get out of jail free card, and one that wasn’t in the game box when the game was designed, like someone just slipped in a hand-drawn card to the bottom of the deck during play. It’s outrageous, but outrage is so enervated by our current moral and ethical decay, it’s lost all useful power.
Expose the evil. There is no need to lock them up. If they are granted pardons, so much the better. Then they can't plead the Fifth if they are forced to testify. And if they lie during their testimony, they can be charged with perjury. Just make certain this all happens outside of Washington DC. No jury in DC will ever convict any of these establishment miscreants for their misdeeds.
this. look how quickly they caught Luigi in this surveillance society and they want us to believe they have no clues on Rich. they know who did it. intimately, even.
I swallowed hard when I saw Bobby, Billy and Mickey with Joe Biden @ the Kennedy Center Honors. Well deserved of course. But bitter sweat for this Dead Head.
I won't forget. If only more citizens understood a fraction of the lies and willful destruction of peoples' lives by Democrat monsters who hate and hated Donald Trump.
“But do this only in pursuit of true justice — not for retribution, but for accountability and reform.”
In a “just” system where someone knowing destroys innocent lives, the “accountability” should be imposed that it will deter similar actions from ever occurring again. Yes they must be held accountable.
As this was a public SS I shared it with a brother in CA. Here is what he wrote me back:
My hope is that they do not let these things go but bring blind-eye justice back. These people will not stop unless there are ramifications for their actions.
Jake Sullivan is a particularly dishonest henchman for Obama and Biden. Recently he has conveniently forgotten about this treatise in Foreign Affairs a few days before the October 7 Hamas attack. In this article he bragged how his policies (Biden) had kept the mideast quiet and safe. Sullivan is a prototype "deep state" "swamp rat" and dangerous to be anywhere near power in the federal government.
Most people who half-pay attention know a.) Hillary couldn't "take the blame" for getting beat by Trump, b.) they needed a scapegoat (Russia - Russia, Russia!), c.) Podesta cooked up the whole thing, and d.) Seth Rich (laptop files sealed for 66 years).
Furthermore, and perhaps most importantly, Russiagate was used to drum up support for the current Ukraine conflict...fanning Russia hate to be acceptable. Without Trump winning and Russiagate, The Deep State would have never succeeded getting the masses of Team Blue on board with this conflict. Slow drip programming has been used on the populace. Consider how frequently we saw repetition of the colors blue and yellow and sunflowers in the years leading up to it in various movies and programs and advertisements. I was certainly noticing it and wondering why was so special about these two colors together and the sunflowers...and then came Ukraine!
Because I refused to despise Trump and refused to accept Russiagate with its general hatred to Russia, I lost nearly all of my friends who accused me of being a "Putin lover." This is most ironic as I have had multi-decade serious reservations about both President Putin and President Trump, much as I have reservations about every politician. Both men can be very wrong about many things, but on some matters be correct. Why is it so impossible to understand? I just call it as I see it and it lost me a large social group that revealed their true intolerant colors in the end despite being "alternative" and "woke." The inability to see beyond black or white has hindered our progress and ability to make peace. This type of black/white thinking troubles me from whatever "side" it originates from. Reality is beyond this or that.
The powers running things are literally punking us in the open to see how far they can go. We need to let them know the game is up and we won't be playing anymore. Trump supporters need to keep his feet to the fire and not let him betray MAGA-MAHA. No more wars. No more endless military budget (here's looking at you Vivek and Musk!). No more corporate handouts at taxpayer expense. We don't want to downsize government waste only to give it completely over to AI. Don't fall for this because it will be attempted as being "Efficient."
Bait and switch is something that is becoming more and more noticeable in politics. It is obvious that the Tower of Babel is also hard at work when we witness arguing over what is Left or Right or Capitalist or Communist, etc., etc.. When we mean different things by the same word, we cannot have meaningful dialogue. Manipulation of language, especially via imagery is the chief weapon used against us. Be on guard.
If you look at kids' shows even today, any Russian characters, which are very rare to begin with, are almost always villains. Russophobia sprinkled throughout mainstream culture and media.
The across the board Congressional/DOJ/spook land "sealing" evidence of every kind is pretty much the "tell". Claiming national security, while slurping tax treasure and running cover for international criminal financiers, is the D.C. forte. Understanding that billionaire perps use, with the help of a compromised D.C. political leadership, American tax treasure, to pay for and and place connected political operatives in positions to undermine the American Republic is a first step. That is, NGO's and fake social service organizations that never solve the problems they are funded to fix. The Mayorkas/Harris illegals scam has literally pipelined billions in tax treasure to NGO's and social service groups. The result? Crippling chaos and distraction from the real problems facing Americans. In England, the Starmer perps, against the obvious destruction of culture and protest of the people just declared open borders. Shut up or go to jail. Trump is reprieve not salvation.
I read that the Russia-Trump connection was cooked up because the Clinton's had major financial dealings in Russia (a lot of rich people do - or did), and they figured Trump would use it as a political weapon so they headed him off. Human nature dictates that the guy who gets accused first is the loser. It doesn't work well for the first accused to say, "He/She is doing the same thing!" It just doesn't work.
I'm so beyond grateful for this post, I'm only barely holding back sobs here in a coffee shop.
As a rando mom-blogger who ended up getting caught up in all this for innocently seeing and commenting on the "wrong" things, I too was forced into many years of Remnant life. I contemplated suicide many times and almost myself became a no-longer-living NON-Remnant. As one who did manage to survive, I am frequently haunted to think of all the people who did commit suicide just to escape the otherwise-inescapable horror; for such people, their real cause of death (psychological+ torture) may never be known.
Through it all: I am motivated, as are you, not by retribution but by hopes for a better version of yet-to-come. I, too, act in "pursuit of true justice — not for retribution, but for accountability and reform," and I am hopeful words like those you've shared here today may be part of shaping that better-version yet-to-come.
You are correct. Without fear of retribution, there will be no reform. Schiff continues to be rewarded upward, the greater his lies, the higher his position rises. He has to be one of major targets.
Yes, but, much like the origins of the War On Iraq (or, for that matter, the extracurricular activities of one Jeffrey Epstein), investigating "Liberal QAnon" would likely embarrass important and powerful people and their MSM buttbois, so it will get swept under the rug like a minor faux pas.
I think an investigation into Epstein's extra-curricular activities would embarrass the powerful across the board. It's not like Jeff wasn't buttbuddies with Trump.
S.L. — There was a picture published in the New York Daily News, a couple of years ago, showing Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein together.
But if you looked closely you’d notice how *young* Trump is in the picture. The picture was intended to mislead: in reality Trump was one of the first to shun Epstein, even though they lived just a couple of miles apart in Florida.
By contrast, the Clintons stayed pals for years longer. For example, Ghislaine Maxwell, later convicted as Epstein’s procurer, was one of the select guests at Chelsea Clinton’s wedding.
It’s a sad story, but the moral of the story is that people suck. They will always suck, regardless of party affiliation (both parties are corrupt!!) because human nature is self-serving, always.
And this is why one of our wisest, yet unknown founders, “Anti-Federalist” Robert Yates, nailed it about practically everything we see today because it is what happens when we create a strong, centralized government that becomes so corrupt and out of control – life in upside down world (aka early 21st century America). He predicted it all – forever wars, the divide in the country because we are a country too big and diverse to get agree on issues, and of course, the absolute corruption in a central government, far away from the people’s watchful eyes.
You’d think he was a prophet of what was to come by creating a huge, out of control government. So, why not revisit the thoughts of the wise founders we call the “Anti-Federalists” who were the REAL federalists. Maybe their wisdom is a way out of this mess? https://lizlasorte.substack.com/p/name-that-anti-federalist?r=76q58
Wow - what a great day it would be if Nuland was brought down. I must admit I hadn't realised the ongoing human toll of that vicious and reckless Russiagate lie.
The Caputos and all families who suffered this kind of injustice and hatred deserve some public vindication. We as Americans, must provide a forum for pubic exposure of these abusive tactics sanctioned by some in our government and assisted by many of our lying media. It is our civic duty to demand it lest our own family be the next victim of this shameful corruption. The deeper the probe the better and name the names!
Powerful. I really hadn't thought about all the people who were vilified as a result of this widespread lie. The big ones, yeah ... but not the average political people caught up in this mess. Thanks Matt for giving Michael Caputo a forum to share his story.
Every supporting lawyer that got within a paper's width of Trump has been taken out because of Russia/Russia; Stop the Steal; Jan6th and everything else in between.
The MSM screams that Biden admin people need pardons to save them from having their life savings eliminated because of lawfare. There was no outrage when the DOJ and FBI went after Trump supporters.
What a terrible trauma the Democrats have wreaked on innocent people in their zeal to hold onto power by any means necessary. We always say, "Yeah, but nothing will be done about it." Let's hope this time, the team assembled by Trump to specifically DO SOMETHING about it, will succeed. If not, America is done.
What is being called for here is what is well known in academic circles as transitional justice, a series of actions to “do something” after a democracy succeeds a dictatorship. Trials, truth commissions, lustration (forbidding complicit officials in past lawfare/repression from holding public office again) are all part of the toolkit. If we are to break the power of the Democratic Party-aligned security state quasi-dictatorship that bared itself the last 8-10 years and restore the rule of law, then these policies will be necessary.
Sad thing is that the MSM will continue to carry water for the establishment. They will hawk stories that the investigations are false.
Some of them published classified information leaked to them. Include them in early investigations and convene grand juries to investigate these crimes. They may not be so open to publishing any propaganda they receive from any politician in the future. They may, as institutions, revive some journalistic standards.
Absolutely Jerri. There is no doubt that the new administration will use all available legal tools to sever the deviant chumming between government and media that both have become accustomed to. Each will have to finally do their jobs without the venal aid from the other. I know my hopes are high, but I’m all in on forging on and pulling all the bad weeds.
Interestingly if RFKjr can push through a ban on pharma advertising directly to consumer, something not directly related to Russiagate, the MSM will be obliterated almost overnight. Big pharma is a massive portion of their revenues.
Side effects include massive stroke, heart attack, exploding diarrhea, and self-inflicted blunt force trauma.
Their vessels have gotten significantly smaller over the past 4 years and, in a sane world, will shrink into oblivion.
Of course they will, but fewer and fewer people will believe them. Look at how irrelevant they are becoming…
As the old English expression goes: “when you’re in a ‘ole, stop diggin.”
They just refuse to put down their shovels.
If one wanted to learn more about the phenomenon of transitional justice, where would you point them? This is very interesting to me. Thank you for that post.
Here is a (I think) free version of an academic review of the topic from 2010: https://www.scribd.com/document/178807932/annurev-2Epolisci-2E040108-2E110013
The book “Radical Evil on Trial” (1996) by Carlos Nino, a legal scholar who designed one of the most innovative transitional justice policies of the 20th century, is also good.
Thank you, Nuremberg too.
Chile transitioned from Pinochet by exposing the extrajudicial murders and torture that had happened during his regime. It took a while for those who had looked the other way to admit that those things had taken place. The most important aspect of that transition was the official acknowledgment that the wrongs had indeed happened. It was necessary for both perps and victims to know they are seen.
Interesting.
Transitional justice.
I’ll do more reading for sure.
Syria today could benefit from this.
But their society likely isn’t sophisticated enough.
We shall see.
Syria may have only transitioned from one brutal dictatorship to another. We shall see.
I agree.
But for now, the money flow is cut off from Iran into the area and all of the Syrian weapons have been destroyed.
What concerns me Turkey.
We have an entire political party in America dedicated to domestic terrorism, and while they controlled our executive branch, the FBI et al declared that by definition, only the opposing party could be guilty of domestic terrorism.
A lot needs fixing.
12/10/24: Perfectly stated.
12/10/24: In NYC, it was the black KKK leader Bragg who tried (and failed) to lynch Daniel Penny. The Democrats (wrong name!) in WDC for four years have done the same thing to America, and to a horrifying extent, have succeeded. How can this be reversed and repaired? How can the past victims of the Biden Crime Family Syndicate / Pelosi / Schumer / Schiff / Wray / Garland / Mayorkas / DEI Pentagon / Fauci / Mainstream Media's pervasive and lethal corruption be compensated?
Watching Fauci be sentenced to death will make me feel warm and fuzzy inside.
Whoa there. Fauci is one of the top 10 most cited scientists in the world. I worked with him in NYC. He was scrupulously honest and decent. Are you sure your murderous stance isn’t a product of scurrilous misinformation?
That may have been the case when you knew him. But his actions during Covid wreaked havoc and likely because he was acting in self-interest. Protecting his actions in illicit support of gain-of-function research with Wuhan.
As suspected. Covid did not originate in Wuhan. See this week’s Nature and the Laotian bat story which actually does contain the closest link. This makes the gain of function story moot. And look at all other gain of function research. How did you get to where you are on this? The story you desire seemingly is full of holes. Note how it’s never made it through peer review in a top journal.
you mean it wasn't psyop approved? keep on anal-chugging for the oppressors
Bunk. The scientific establishment has zero--zero--credibility on this. But there will be a whole gang of people pushing lies to cover their collective asses. With you helping them.
"Peer review": that's when some people with advanced degrees people validate the flawed work of other people with advanced degrees. I know how this game works, I've been in it for decades. It's all about jobs, grants, and publications. Scientific truth is, at best, a distant fourth.
"Top journal" huh? You mean like The Lancet, that famously came out early on in the pandemic and attacked anyone who deviated form the party line? That sort of "top journal"?
I haven't yet read the above articles. From the start, everyone identified Wuhan as ground zero. Coincidentally, a lab only a few miles away was adding function to make base viruses find a friendly home in humans. The spike protein happened to be perfectly engineered for it. It had never been naturally created. Arriving at one with enough similarity to a naturally occurring one in order to develop a vaccine seemed like trying to find a needle in a haystack 5 miles into a cave covered in batshit. And the risks....
Comparing the two theories at the beginning pointed to a lab leak out of logic if nothing else. Yet Fauci ignored early evidence lending credibility to a lab leak. He had tremendous skin in the game, having funded it. Magically, a story appears in, yes, nature that claimed to debunk the lab theory when prevailing evidence indicated otherwise
Our government, including Fauci, and msm, big tech, etc used the piece to not just control narrative. They banned anyone from saying otherwise. In a free speech country. I guess that's what all good scientists do, right?
Fauci lied about masks. Which btw have holes hundreds of times larger than the virus molecule. A 5 year old understands chain link fences don't stop misquote. Yet our top 10 scientist successfully embedded the opposite, outright mandating a useless piece of cloth. He brainwashed half the population in the process
He lied about school closures. He lied about the danger to kids. He lied about the effectiveness of the vaccine. It would be easier to list the things he didn't lie about
He was on TV everyday. It was the most important thing in the world. Science speaks!
Now that someone questions him, gosh he really can't recall when he found out about it. Hmmm, not sure who signed off on the funding. Yeah, I don't really know that guy in North Carolina
Quoting Hillary, at this point what difference does it make!?
That's what we get from our smartest and brightest, who get to fuck up royally with no consequence
I'm glad you had a good experience with him. The American people clearly haven't, and we deserve to know everything about perhaps the world's biggest disaster. And I'm not in a very forgiving mood
Did not originate in Wuhan except that it did. I don't trust the rag Nature any more than I trust Fauci, who lied again and again to the American people in order to manipulate them into following drastic government mandates that soaked up trillions in borrowed taxpayer money.
12/11/24: George, you are hilarious. Take a bow.
Anthony Fauci may be a "top cited scientist" - but that is most assuredly because of the purse strings he controls, as he is not a brilliant scientist. He also is neither honest nor decent. I say this after observing his actions during the AIDS years and during the COVID years and then observing the truth finally come to the surface. Fauci is remarkably dishonest, and likely a criminal. RFK,jr has written 2 books, both meticulously footnoted, that describe the monster known as Anthony Fauci. Read "The Real Anthony Fauci" and "The Wuhan Cover-Up" for the truth about this man; I fear you are the one who's seriously misinformed.
He was the gold medallist in his med school class at Cornell if that helps. Purse holding came late and was in recognition of his scrupulous honesty. Shame on you.
With respect, George, I lost trust in Dr. Fauci almost immediately when he went on TV and said N95 masks wouldn't help ordinary people, and that they should be donated to hospitals.
He admitted this was a "noble lie". Another case of which is when he self-admittedly made up the percentages of vaccination required to achieve herd immunity. He kept raising the percentages to encourage further vaccination.
And these two are just the lies he's admitted to.
One problem with Dr Fauci is that he is willing to look you in the face on TV and lie to you, in what he perceives to be the interests of Public Health. He believes that he can divine the "public good" and is willing to deceive the public in pursuit of it.
But his approach is counterproductive. He destroyed trust in Public Health using these techniques. I'll never trust anything he says again, without verification. So much for that scrupulous honesty.
And shame on you for carrying the water for the American Dr Mengele. But I'm sure you will be rewarded in some way or another for your loyal service to the not-so-good doctor.
When the CDC recorded "covid deaths" they included death WITH covid as well as deaths FROM covid which exaggerated the number of covid deaths. Another way to manipulate the country into going along with the control freaks. I don't care what kind of medals Fauci won in college, calling him scrupulously honest is a joke. He quoted the CDCs covid deaths number often in his propaganda
RFK Jr is a fuckin' crazy person---that's about it.
Give me one example of dishonesty, but remember hindsight is 20/20 and both HIV and Covid were novel and paradigm-changing.
I intended to respond to this comment but mistakenly put it above. See? It's OK to admit mistakes. The covid fiasco contained a pacific ocean's worth. We're left empty handed while the covid celeb retires to a comfortable life with a Christmas collection of bobble heads
Obviously you know him. I don't. He seems like a great cocktail party guest. He may believe he did everything he could. Putting the orgin mess, the 6 foot rule (preventing loved ones from visiting dying parents), etc aside, he had a direct conflict of interest- a massive one- and he didn't disclose it despite acting as covid narrative setter. That alone is highly unethical and dishonest. That's all the rest of have to go on
1. Cloth masks will stop the spread.
2. Six feet separation will stop
The spread.
3. The vaccines are perfectly safe
4. The vaccines will protect you from getting covid again
5. The vaccines will stop the spread
6. Covid did not come from Wuhan lab
7. The US did not fund the Wuhan lab
I could go on
Scrupulously honest? Guess you forgot about him lying to Congress about funding Gain of Function research. And no, that is not "scurrilous misinformation."
Anybody who climbs to the top of the DC bureaucratic totem pole the way Fauci did is, by definition, not "scrupulously honest."
"Totem Pole?" Doesn't work metaphorically. Bureaucrats, whether scrupulously honest or not, most always use ladders when climbing to the "top."
To be a successful careerist one must step "over" other competitors incrementally to get to the "top." Shimmying solo up a First Nation odoodem you take the risk of being confused for a grasping social climber, not a serious careerist.
I doubt very much if it was a lie. What is funded is so vast and so detailed I’d bet he simply didn’t know. Most of us couldn’t recall the details of any specific proposal a few weeks after the review panels meet. You’re way off base here. Why?
If he didn't know what he was funding he should not be in that position. Gain of function research is very dangerous
He also controls the purse and scientists must bow to receive funding. If what I believe occurred with COVID has occurred the man deserves to be executed for crimes against humanity. We don’t know 100% for sure, the media being absolutely useless doesn’t help.
He granted funding to EcoHealth. They conduct GOF research at a shoddy lab in China. Incidental (or possibly intentional) release of manifested pathogen. MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE GLOBE DIE (this is why he must be executed for crimes against humanity). He runs cover for himself all the while being treated like a celebrity (this is why his death will make me smile).
Or maybe not… I vote for unleashing fruit flies on him after we remove his vocal cords. What you call murderous stance I call the demands of Justice.
12/10/24: Your succinct sarcasm is duly noted.
Dr. Mengele? Take a cold shower.
12/10/24: Life. Do not create a martyr.
Wonder what Caputo thinks, having worked for HHS during the pandemic.
12/10/24: We shall soon find out.
First we Americans must understand what kind of government we really have and how it operates. This didn’t come out of nowhere. It was merely the levers of government turned inward on domestic politics. Our dirty tricks go back a long way.
if they are not held to account for their crimes against the people they will be back and worse than ever. it is a moral and ethical responsibility to hold them accountable for those that come after. how can we leave such a mess for the future generations.
Trump should do something about it but he won't. How far did "lock her up!" go?
I think Trump was honestly surprised and overwhelmed at what came his way from the deep state dems after 2016 and didn't know how to effectively fight back. I do not think the same can be said now. From eveything I am seeign, he has already hit the ground running and is going to be relentless. I can;t wait to see it.
12/10/24: He is going to be a relentless hammer. He hears the clock at the age of 78 and every single day counts.
I have seen no evidence of this.
Why do you say that?
Because I haven't seen any evidence, just wishful thinking.
Trump has been appointing cabinet members known to oppose the swamp with alacrity. He's not President yet. What would you expect to see?
Feral, while "lock her up" was heard at Trump rallies, Trump never said he would do so, and in fact, as president, did not pursue charges against her.
I like most of what you put out here, but I do think you might need a Trump Derangement Syndrome PCR test. You seem a tad symptomatic.
Trump did not do so in his first term, which was the right thing to do. But now, that the plot has been revealed, don't assume the same for the second term.
Trump did comment to HRC at one of the 2016 debates that she'd be in prison.
Even taking what you wrote as given, Trump certainly did nothuing to dissuade the idea that he was going to press charges.
As far as Trump goes - I try to call balls and strikes. He is what he is.
C'mon Feral, Trump's debate comment was a flippant response to Hillary's comment on his "temperament." Grammar police: "You'd be in jail" is a subjunctive mode, not imperative. It was a hypothetical, not a promise.
Yes, you can call balls and strikes on Trump, but in doing so, you must remember the first principle: Take Trump seriously but not always literally. If you watch much baseball, you know that the umps don't always call balls an strikes correctly. I think that's the case here.
You really think that Trump was playing lawyer games with words? Are you seriously arguing that this wasn't a threat, like "nice business you got there, shame if it burned down..." isn't clearly a threat.
And he certainly did nothing to discourage the idea that HRC would be (justifiably) locked up.
Trump is a vengeful man I think. We will see.
I haven't seen much evidence of this. Look at Haley, who was a never Trumper in 2016 until Trump won, then she ingratiated herself into his good graces and was named UN Ambassador. From this position, she worked tireless to undermine his stated agenda, until she resigned and spent the rest of the first Trump Administration badmouthing Trump.
Then she ran for President as The Great Neocon Team R Hope in 2020, then was forgiven again.
These people have NO power yet?
We all know Trump plays his games?
IF she makes it.......which I seriously doubt....she will replaced very quickly and then where is she?
I think you may be confusing Nikki Haley with Tulsi Gabbard.
Was Nikki Haley writing on a bomb intended to kill Palestinians in her name??
It appears you have confused 'thinking' with 'feeling'. To the statement "Trump is a vengeful man", I see more confusion from you. Clearing up the record and one's personal reputation is not in itself vengeful. Some would even say, it's justified.
Trump clearly viewed the 2016 primary as a game, and that sat along with the nonsense about Ted Cruz's dad, etc. He walked back the Hillary stuff immediately and said she suffered enough. He likely still viewed himself as friends with them.
Seems pretty personal now, after they've tried to destroy him with selective justice.
OK, so Trump was doing it all for laffs in 2016, even though he wasn't in the primary stage when he debated Clinton.
Are you sure that this is really the argument you want to make? This is really the guy you've designated as your champion?
would have been a circular firing squad. too much collateral damage - whose hands aren't filthy?
We have the chance to bring about a new day in America once again.
America was done when Ford pardoned Nixon.
We’re just playing out the string.
America was done when JFK was killed. The cabal took out Nixon cause he wouldn't play their game. It took out VP Agnew first so it could install Ford. The trap set for Nixin worked. You believe what you are told to believe.
As long as we’re in the way back machine, it was when Truman signed the National Security Act.
No wait, before that, Wilson….
This can get to be a bit of a game. You could go further back to the Spanish American war in 1898 as the beginning of imperial America. but yes, Wilson was when shit got real. That administration disrespected free speech and set race relations back, to put it mildly. But our current national security state was created by Truman. Eisenhower was the first enthusiastic user of its covert powers. Whoever planned and executed the JFK killing, powerful people in the USG were able to adequately cover it up, not the least because it helped cement their power. Nixon knew shit but wasn’t their boy. Ford was. Reagan was enough of an outsider that he almost got taken out, but the intel boys found a way to work within his framework. GHWB and the intel boys got another chance at big power on 911, this time to secure hegemony worldwide via the forever war on terror. At home, Americans lost even the right to know what the national security state was up to. IMO
Actually, "imperial America" began with the Treaty of Paris in 1783 ending the Revolutionary War. Along with independence, it expanded the claims of the new US to the Mississippi River. And the rest, as they say, is history.
I see that as a good thing for the people and the future of industry, innovation and prosperity, aside from slavery.
The revolution was not fought because of taxes. It was fought because In the mid-1700s the American Colonies were prospering, in part because they were issuing their own money called "Colonial Scrip," which was strictly regulated and did not require the payment of any interest.
When the bankers in Great Britain heard this, they turned to the British Parliament, which passed a law prohibiting the Colonial Scrip, forcing the colonists to accept the "debt" or "fiat" money* issued by the Bank of England.
According to Benjamin Franklin, it was because "the conditions so reversed that the era of prosperity ended." "The Colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters had it not been the poverty caused by the bad influence of the English bankers on the Parliament, which has caused in the Colonies hatred of England and the Revolutionary War."
Why Wilson yes, but wait, I recollect it was Lincoln. Shame his dear wife killed him. Poor gal, Congress would not approve her pension, even after three requests.
OK Shelley, you got me: in what world did Mary Todd Lincoln kill her husband? Yes, she was a battle axe, but I don't think she actually used it on him. Help me out here...
Mary was an opium addict. The Rothschilds planned to kidnap Abe. Booth was to do it. There was a waiting wagon with a wood-cover down below in the street. The plan was for Booth to traverse the backstairs entrance, silently move down a hallway, and open an unlocked door to a darkened room where Mary and Abe were sitting. After entering the room, Booth would tell the President an urgent message was waiting for him at the War Department. Before descending the backstairs, Abe would be knocked out with a chloroform cloth. The kidnappers would load the limp body into the covered wagon and swiftly stow Lincoln on an opium boat for a novel 'cruise' of the Atlantic Ocean.
When Booth actually opened the door to the darkened room where Abe and Mary were sitting, he went into a panic and shock. Abe was asleep with his head on Mary's left shoulder and the First Lady had her head turned toward the left looking at the door. . . When she was sure the man who opened the door was Booth, she turned and looked at the President to be sure the pistol she was pointing would explode beneath the lower left earlobe of her husband. Before Mary pulled the trigger, John Wilkes Booth, drug supplier to the First Lady, realized he was the patsy in all this mess. But he did not know if he was only Mary's patsy or also a chump for the Rothschild family.
Yeah, Tom, it's Woody Wilson who's most to blame for the Nat Sec State. He started the shitty ball rolling. Truman and the rest just followed his precedent.
Since the Civil War our current federal government has been operating under the rule of National Emergency - thus the executive order. President Lincoln as military commander issued Executive order number 1. Wilson's original 1917 Act (a/k/a The Trading with the Enemy Act or War Powers Act) which was "An Act to define, regulate, and punish trading with the enemy, and for other purposes", originally excluded citizens of the United States, but the Act of March 9, 1933, Section 2 amended this to include "any person within the United States or any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof" - under FDR.
Here is an example of the power of declaring a National Emergency: All created by FDR and NOT Congress part one:
AAA 1933 Agricultural Adjustment Administration
CCC 1933 Civilian Conservation Corps
CWA 1933 Civil Works Administration
DRS 1935 Drought Relief Service
DSH 1933 Subsistence Homesteads Division
EBA 1933 Emergency Banking Act
FAA 1933 Federal Aviation Administration
FAP 1935 Federal Art Project
FCA 1933 Farm Credit Administration
FCC 1934 Federal Communications Commission
FDIC 1933 Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
FERA 1933 Federal Emergency Relief Administration
FHA 1934 Federal Housing Administration
FLSA 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act
FMP 1935 Federal Music Project (part of WPA)
FSA 1935 Farm Security Administration
FSRC 1933 Federal Surplus Relief Corporation
Part two:
FTP 1935 Federal Theatre Project (part of WPA)
FWA 1939 Federal Works Agency
FWP 1935 Federal Writers' Project (part of WPA)
HOLC 1933 Home Owners' Loan Corporation
NIRA 1933 National Industrial Recovery Act
NLRA 1935 National Labor Relations Act
NLRB 1934 National Labor Relations Board/The Wagner Act
NRA 1933 National Recovery Administration
NYA 1935 National Youth Administration
PRRA 1933 Puerto Rico Reconstruction Administration
PWA 1933 Public Works Administration
RA 1935 Resettlement Administration
REA 1935 Rural Electrification Administration (now Rural Utilities Service)
SEC 1934 Securities and Exchange Commission
SSA 1935 Social Security Administration
SSB 1935 Social Security Board (now Social Security Administration)
TVA 1933 Tennessee Valley Authority
USHA 1937 United States Housing Authority
USMC 1936 United States Maritime Commission
WPA 1935 Works Progress Administration
Exposure of the evil done by these miscreants should be the first agenda item for Kash Patel. Following that, prosecution of the most egregious criminals should be pursued, financially destroying them before their long term incarceration. This must be done to eliminate future lawfare initiated by Democrats.
While it may not appease those who want retribution, one creative “transitional justice” (see my other comment on VanishingTribe’s post) strategy is what South Africa did post-apartheid:
Offer amnesty from prosecution in exchange for public confessions of involvement in lawfare. Prosecute those who don’t confess. This creates a win-win: getting through to the Democratic base what actually happened from 2015 onward, and holding accountable those who won’t admit their complicity in it.
I like it, assuming Biden doesn’t pardon his closest 500 associates for anything they’ve done in their miserable lives.
Yes - this kind of action is called a mass “self amnesty” and is something dictatorships regularly do on their way out of office. The empirical parallels to democratic transitions in foreign countries I have seen here in the last two months are uncanny.
Any thing in the transitional justice tool box for the media ?
Much like the Constitution, pardons are pieces of paper. Gentlemen's agreements that only bind those who play by the rules, and thus will likely become increasingly meaningless.
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^This! It would be far more effective. It prevents what will inevitably happen otherwise where the media will hyperventilate over Trumps destruction of the Rule of Law and unholy use of the justice system in retribution (no self-awareness of course) permitting the Democratic base to continue believing in some version of Russiagate (there are plenty out there who do) and Orange Man bad. As hard as it is to understand the dying legacy media still has the power.
Well, it does disrupt "their" democracy.
I do like this. Those confessing to avoid prosecution will be shamed and outcast forever. That is punishment too.
It would be short term punishment at best. Swamp creatures, when threatened, just stealthily sink below the dark waters, only to rise at a later time.
12/10/24: Now that Biden has legitimatized preemptive pardons, can Trump be persuaded to do the same on Day One for the people who (above) are innocent of any wrong-doing, whose lives have been destroyed? Or are we Russians?
No tit for tats.
Use the laws as written.
Go after the 51 IC leaders immediately by merely revoking their security clearances entirely with no chance to appeal.
Then go after the people involved from the FBI/DOJ/NSA/CIA who were involved in the entire Crossfire Hurricane. Patel knows where the bodies are buried.
Then go after the professional class like Glenn Simpson, Marc Elias, Christopher Steele and Halper who set up the Papadopolous, Carter Page sting...then go after the swamp creatures like Vindman and the others who leaked the Ukrainian calls...then freeze out the media people entirely.
Tell George Stepinitopolous to pound a gyro...Tell Margaret Brennan she need a new Vampire lift....tell Jim Acosta and others to go pound sand.
Then start to look at the state level scum like Bragg, James, Merchan, and Fat Fannie Willis.... Make them all lawyer up.
Need to move on this fast and run it in almost a shadow FBI/DOJ team truncated from the rest of the FBI/DOJ.
This is a very good list.
Kash Patel in his book reserved Appendix B for a list of operatives, and their titles, that must be purged from the three letter agencies ASAP.
12/10/24: The name of the book?
Government Gangsters.
12/10/24: "Go pound a gyro!" Original! And the comment as a whole is exactly what Kash Patel has in mind. How long will it take to staff a brand-new DOJ in order to get all of this underway?
Deranged people will see confessions as compelled and prosecutions as vindictive. Nothing can bring their understanding into alignment with reality. The identity of the deranged is tied to their politics, not to a recognized religion. Atheist suffer the most because they do not have a religious buffer on their identity.
Fair, but you only need to persuade 20-30% of the Democratic base to have a supermajority of the public aware of and rejecting what happened in Russiagate. Push someone at the level of a Clapper or Brennan (wishful thinking I know) to confess in writing and air it on the networks, and you’d hit that number easily.
Clapper and Brennan are lifelong liars.
They're taking their lies to the grave with them.
I hope you are correct in your assessment.
I like this approach, makes good sense.
Those who sing can out those who remain silent.
I suspect that many of these miscreants will get a pre-emptive pardon before January 20.
I still don’t see how you can get a pardon now for an indictment or a conviction that hasn’t happened yet. But Nixon got one, so here we are.
Nixon’s pardon was for past crimes committed. This talk of some sort of “preemptive pardon” is an outrage. It’s a get out of jail free card, and one that wasn’t in the game box when the game was designed, like someone just slipped in a hand-drawn card to the bottom of the deck during play. It’s outrageous, but outrage is so enervated by our current moral and ethical decay, it’s lost all useful power.
Justice will always be served in the end.
Could be as innocent as walking down a city street at 6:30 in the morning or fly fishing on your favorite trout stream in Wyoming.
I wish I shared your optimism. I hear “the wheels of Justice grind slow but true.” I just don’t see evidence of that.
Expose the evil. There is no need to lock them up. If they are granted pardons, so much the better. Then they can't plead the Fifth if they are forced to testify. And if they lie during their testimony, they can be charged with perjury. Just make certain this all happens outside of Washington DC. No jury in DC will ever convict any of these establishment miscreants for their misdeeds.
I hope Patel appoints a team to solve the cold case of who killed Seth Rich.
this. look how quickly they caught Luigi in this surveillance society and they want us to believe they have no clues on Rich. they know who did it. intimately, even.
Surely no one is opposed to solving murders. Anyone who opposed that would seem a bit suspicious
They already know, it's simply a matter of declassifying the information.
Patel would definitely seem to be the right conspiracy theorist to investigate that particular conspiracy theory.
I will never forget. I feel for you. I want justice to be done. I pray for it.
For speaking out, thank you for your service to our country, Mr Caputo.
Michael, more Deadheads stand with you than you know! Great piece. And best to you and your family.
I swallowed hard when I saw Bobby, Billy and Mickey with Joe Biden @ the Kennedy Center Honors. Well deserved of course. But bitter sweat for this Dead Head.
Forgivable.
- Seldom turns out the way it does in the song. ~ Hunter/Garcia
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I won't forget. If only more citizens understood a fraction of the lies and willful destruction of peoples' lives by Democrat monsters who hate and hated Donald Trump.
See the last 4 minutes of today's press conference by Bibi where he provides a devastating summary of identical lawfare methods directed against him, starting with threatening and punishing his advisors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=753&v=2Xj8U7AISjA&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.powerlineblog.com%2F&source_ve_path=MTM5MTE3LDEyNzI5OSwxMzkxMTcsMzY4NDIsMjM4NTE
Those Israelis doing that were undoubtedly influenced by our CIA snd FBI.
“But do this only in pursuit of true justice — not for retribution, but for accountability and reform.”
In a “just” system where someone knowing destroys innocent lives, the “accountability” should be imposed that it will deter similar actions from ever occurring again. Yes they must be held accountable.
Like 100X
The punishment should exceed the crime.
As this was a public SS I shared it with a brother in CA. Here is what he wrote me back:
My hope is that they do not let these things go but bring blind-eye justice back. These people will not stop unless there are ramifications for their actions.
Jake Sullivan is a particularly dishonest henchman for Obama and Biden. Recently he has conveniently forgotten about this treatise in Foreign Affairs a few days before the October 7 Hamas attack. In this article he bragged how his policies (Biden) had kept the mideast quiet and safe. Sullivan is a prototype "deep state" "swamp rat" and dangerous to be anywhere near power in the federal government.
Amen! His treatise sure didn't age well...such utter incompetence wrapped in such amazing arrogance.
Most people who half-pay attention know a.) Hillary couldn't "take the blame" for getting beat by Trump, b.) they needed a scapegoat (Russia - Russia, Russia!), c.) Podesta cooked up the whole thing, and d.) Seth Rich (laptop files sealed for 66 years).
Furthermore, and perhaps most importantly, Russiagate was used to drum up support for the current Ukraine conflict...fanning Russia hate to be acceptable. Without Trump winning and Russiagate, The Deep State would have never succeeded getting the masses of Team Blue on board with this conflict. Slow drip programming has been used on the populace. Consider how frequently we saw repetition of the colors blue and yellow and sunflowers in the years leading up to it in various movies and programs and advertisements. I was certainly noticing it and wondering why was so special about these two colors together and the sunflowers...and then came Ukraine!
Because I refused to despise Trump and refused to accept Russiagate with its general hatred to Russia, I lost nearly all of my friends who accused me of being a "Putin lover." This is most ironic as I have had multi-decade serious reservations about both President Putin and President Trump, much as I have reservations about every politician. Both men can be very wrong about many things, but on some matters be correct. Why is it so impossible to understand? I just call it as I see it and it lost me a large social group that revealed their true intolerant colors in the end despite being "alternative" and "woke." The inability to see beyond black or white has hindered our progress and ability to make peace. This type of black/white thinking troubles me from whatever "side" it originates from. Reality is beyond this or that.
The powers running things are literally punking us in the open to see how far they can go. We need to let them know the game is up and we won't be playing anymore. Trump supporters need to keep his feet to the fire and not let him betray MAGA-MAHA. No more wars. No more endless military budget (here's looking at you Vivek and Musk!). No more corporate handouts at taxpayer expense. We don't want to downsize government waste only to give it completely over to AI. Don't fall for this because it will be attempted as being "Efficient."
Bait and switch is something that is becoming more and more noticeable in politics. It is obvious that the Tower of Babel is also hard at work when we witness arguing over what is Left or Right or Capitalist or Communist, etc., etc.. When we mean different things by the same word, we cannot have meaningful dialogue. Manipulation of language, especially via imagery is the chief weapon used against us. Be on guard.
Good point. Russia hate was helpful. It still amazes me that people are so easily brainwashed
If you look at kids' shows even today, any Russian characters, which are very rare to begin with, are almost always villains. Russophobia sprinkled throughout mainstream culture and media.
Boris and Natasha! Remember them?
The across the board Congressional/DOJ/spook land "sealing" evidence of every kind is pretty much the "tell". Claiming national security, while slurping tax treasure and running cover for international criminal financiers, is the D.C. forte. Understanding that billionaire perps use, with the help of a compromised D.C. political leadership, American tax treasure, to pay for and and place connected political operatives in positions to undermine the American Republic is a first step. That is, NGO's and fake social service organizations that never solve the problems they are funded to fix. The Mayorkas/Harris illegals scam has literally pipelined billions in tax treasure to NGO's and social service groups. The result? Crippling chaos and distraction from the real problems facing Americans. In England, the Starmer perps, against the obvious destruction of culture and protest of the people just declared open borders. Shut up or go to jail. Trump is reprieve not salvation.
I read that the Russia-Trump connection was cooked up because the Clinton's had major financial dealings in Russia (a lot of rich people do - or did), and they figured Trump would use it as a political weapon so they headed him off. Human nature dictates that the guy who gets accused first is the loser. It doesn't work well for the first accused to say, "He/She is doing the same thing!" It just doesn't work.
Murder cover up.
I'm so beyond grateful for this post, I'm only barely holding back sobs here in a coffee shop.
As a rando mom-blogger who ended up getting caught up in all this for innocently seeing and commenting on the "wrong" things, I too was forced into many years of Remnant life. I contemplated suicide many times and almost myself became a no-longer-living NON-Remnant. As one who did manage to survive, I am frequently haunted to think of all the people who did commit suicide just to escape the otherwise-inescapable horror; for such people, their real cause of death (psychological+ torture) may never be known.
Through it all: I am motivated, as are you, not by retribution but by hopes for a better version of yet-to-come. I, too, act in "pursuit of true justice — not for retribution, but for accountability and reform," and I am hopeful words like those you've shared here today may be part of shaping that better-version yet-to-come.
Thank you. Thanks, Matt.
The fear of retribution will fuel the engines of reform.
You are correct. Without fear of retribution, there will be no reform. Schiff continues to be rewarded upward, the greater his lies, the higher his position rises. He has to be one of major targets.
Yes, but, much like the origins of the War On Iraq (or, for that matter, the extracurricular activities of one Jeffrey Epstein), investigating "Liberal QAnon" would likely embarrass important and powerful people and their MSM buttbois, so it will get swept under the rug like a minor faux pas.
I think an investigation into Epstein's extra-curricular activities would embarrass the powerful across the board. It's not like Jeff wasn't buttbuddies with Trump.
S.L. — There was a picture published in the New York Daily News, a couple of years ago, showing Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein together.
But if you looked closely you’d notice how *young* Trump is in the picture. The picture was intended to mislead: in reality Trump was one of the first to shun Epstein, even though they lived just a couple of miles apart in Florida.
By contrast, the Clintons stayed pals for years longer. For example, Ghislaine Maxwell, later convicted as Epstein’s procurer, was one of the select guests at Chelsea Clinton’s wedding.
Can you give me some links? It’s an interesting point that the only damning photo they could find of Trump & Epstein together was so old.
Andy — Not offhand: I saw it on paper.
Not to mention that Epstein was suicided under Trump's presidency, with Barr as AG.
Yep. And the only person hung for this blackmail scheme was poor prince Andrew, or Randy Andy as we called him in the day.
Unless enough folks want to be harpies about it, MSNBC/View style............
Nobody of influence and auhtority does.
Or people with real jobs. But maybe, just maybe.........
This is just beyond infuriating. I don't know what else to say.
It’s a sad story, but the moral of the story is that people suck. They will always suck, regardless of party affiliation (both parties are corrupt!!) because human nature is self-serving, always.
And this is why one of our wisest, yet unknown founders, “Anti-Federalist” Robert Yates, nailed it about practically everything we see today because it is what happens when we create a strong, centralized government that becomes so corrupt and out of control – life in upside down world (aka early 21st century America). He predicted it all – forever wars, the divide in the country because we are a country too big and diverse to get agree on issues, and of course, the absolute corruption in a central government, far away from the people’s watchful eyes.
You’d think he was a prophet of what was to come by creating a huge, out of control government. So, why not revisit the thoughts of the wise founders we call the “Anti-Federalists” who were the REAL federalists. Maybe their wisdom is a way out of this mess? https://lizlasorte.substack.com/p/name-that-anti-federalist?r=76q58
This is a good one, thank you MIchael!
Wow - what a great day it would be if Nuland was brought down. I must admit I hadn't realised the ongoing human toll of that vicious and reckless Russiagate lie.
Watch closely for any Republican who does not support the nomination of Kash Patel and other key nominees.
They must be primaried.
I'll be doing what I can to support the defeat of any such politician who deserves to be primaried.
The Caputos and all families who suffered this kind of injustice and hatred deserve some public vindication. We as Americans, must provide a forum for pubic exposure of these abusive tactics sanctioned by some in our government and assisted by many of our lying media. It is our civic duty to demand it lest our own family be the next victim of this shameful corruption. The deeper the probe the better and name the names!
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Powerful. I really hadn't thought about all the people who were vilified as a result of this widespread lie. The big ones, yeah ... but not the average political people caught up in this mess. Thanks Matt for giving Michael Caputo a forum to share his story.
Every supporting lawyer that got within a paper's width of Trump has been taken out because of Russia/Russia; Stop the Steal; Jan6th and everything else in between.
The MSM screams that Biden admin people need pardons to save them from having their life savings eliminated because of lawfare. There was no outrage when the DOJ and FBI went after Trump supporters.
Yes, they want to save themselves from what they did to others who were innocent.