I recently flew home from Charleston. There was a woman placing an order for herself and her child ... the total came up and she handed the employee a $20 bill. “ No cash, credit cards only.” I was appalled. That’s just wrong. The meal was paid for but I was fuming that people have to have a credit card?!?!
I recently flew home from Charleston. There was a woman placing an order for herself and her child ... the total came up and she handed the employee a $20 bill. “ No cash, credit cards only.” I was appalled. That’s just wrong. The meal was paid for but I was fuming that people have to have a credit card?!?!
I don’t view it as racist at all. No one whether you are wealthy or not should be forced to have a credit card or forced to use it. Personal choice. I also don’t think Voter ID is racist. Everyone should want to prove that they are that registered voter and only an ID does that, it says nothing about your socio economic status. And a Voter ID is free to everyone.
Sorry! In my defense, my reaction is testimony to how careful one must be with the topic of voter ID. I did take Phil’s comment literally because there are so many people who vehemently believe it is racist to “ make people prove who they are” and that people of lower socio economic status feel targeted by having to do so. The Voter ID debate has gotten me more personal insults than any other topic. And if you try to explain that allowing certain people an exemption from that requirement actually is bigoted, … duck! Thanks Phil, I was actually afraid to post my response so I’m glad my opinion is shared.
No apology needed Mrs McFarland! I just learned something new on this thread today: "Poe's Law" (I looked it up) and states that comment (online especially) that might be intended as sarcastic often get misinterpreted due to the "tone" missing... from now on I'll add the *(sarcasm) in parentheses) to avoid misinterpretation going forward.
That said - I firmly believe that anyone thinking voter IDs are racist are just insulting people of color because it outright implies they're too ignorant to obtain an ID - when there are so many IDs, permits, licenses etc required in our society already that ARENT considered racist... it's just ridiculous.
I recently tweeted that America is racist because we invented slavery. As proof, I observed that Ben Franklin, our 1st & greatest President, owned a slave AND he was an inventor.
Thanks! I learned the hard way about sarcasm and irony. Since by definition, most of the people reading a comment have no idea who I am or what I believe, they have no way to determine my tone and intent, so it's not their fault that my statement was taken the wrong way, it's mine.
I tend to put a little wink ;) emoji in the hope that people will get that, but even then....
A 2017 study by the Federal Reserve found that Black Americans are less likely than white Americans to have a credit card, with only 54% of Black Americans reporting having a credit card compared to 70% of white Americans. Additionally, the study found that Black Americans who do have credit cards tend to have lower credit limits and higher interest rates than white Americans.
Wrong! The voter ID is a solution to a non-existent problem. They even set up a commission to show how BAD the voter problem was and it eventually disbanded in failure. Any you know things are bad when a committee can´t find what it is desperate to prove! So, why the big push for voter ID. Racism is reason number one and reason number 2 is young people who move around and go to college and just can´t be bothered with any more bureaucrasy. Guess what both these groups have in common....
Voter ID is required to establish election integrity and avoid the rigged elections we've grown to despise. The lowering of standards to include "underrepresented people" is a facade to gin up votes that otherwise would not occur. Studies in the past have pointed out that lax standards lead to fraud. Part of this problem lies with dirty voter rolls. No accountability for the immense number of votes arriving during the wee hours of the morning. Fraud undermines the faith in elections and the Democrats have cornered the market in the various forms of deceit.
Wrong! The Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity.called into action by Trump and chaired by Pence with the explicit goal of finding voting fraud disbanded after only 2 meetings because they were UNABLE TO FIND any evidence of serious fraud! That you could be so wrong while sounding so authoritative is a real hoot!!!
What does having a Voter ID have to do with election fraud? Nothing. It’s a simple cost free administrative requirement for voting. Everyone should want to present identification before filling out a ballot. Most of my childhood was in Europe,so presenting various forms of documentation, identification was SOP. Now I’m not lining up to get a chip installed in my arm, but I’m more than happy to verify who I am.
It is very easy to verify who you are WITHOUT a voter ID. It is just a bureaucratic bother that one has to undergo in order to vote - which, of course, means less people will vote. And which people will be the most effected? Why, of course, the lower classes (which for many is a GOOD RESULT) Wake up, dude.
Seriously, if having to endure the bureaucratic “bother” of getting a Voter ID is enough to decline your right to vote, the don’t. And to make that assumption of the lower classes is bigoted.
Without an ID? Are you for real? The most important thing to have is EXACTLY an ID if you want to successfully fool anyone. A fake voter ID would be perfect!!!!
Inability to “find” evidence does not mean: a) evidence does not or did not exist. b) unlawful acts were not committed. c) the theory presented is demonstrably false.
After all, there is no found evidence that anthropogenic climate change has negatively impacted the human species with regard to life span or quality of life - in fact the Industrial Revolution which has supposedly caused AGW has increased lifespans and living standards all across the planet. Yet people still propose solutions that go against that evidence.
Also no evidence can be found that the covid vaccine keeps you from getting covid yet people on the left believed that as much as the right believed in voter fraud.
The perfect response crafted by a conspiracy theorist nut. Keep on searching for evidence because even if you can't find it I guarantee it's still there.
You just can't find it---not because it doesn't exist, but because you can't find it. Perhaps the evidence is in Sasquatch's fanny pack, or squirreled away in a golden lock box inside the Loch Ness Monster's secret underwater lair. If it's not there, it's surely somewhere---you just can't find it.
Imagine you drive your kids insane with your Easter egg hunt.
There is very little evidence that publius_x has a brain, but we'll give him credit for one because it's getting late and I don't have the energy for a thorough search. But it's there...if you care to find it.
In other words if evidence is inded found then you would be right and if it isn´t found you are right anyway!.So there is no real reason to look for evidence and we should take your word for it based on what again?
No, you idiot. The point is your "no evidence found" is a red herring. A straw man used in argumentation, when it benefits your argument, but not really winning any argument.
You cannot honestly believe that the circumstantial evidence (bellwether counties flipping for the first time in years, large one-sided vote dumps in the middle of the night, changes to vote collection rules, etc.) doesn't point to absolutely NO chicanery.
Trump is right that if the Republicans want to win under the new rules, they have to play fast and loose with vote harvesting and do what the Dems already do.
"No evidence is a red herring!? Really. We are talking about a Trump sponsored committee that was overseen by Pence and the WHOLE IDEA was to find EVIDENCE or the SUPPOSED voter frauds that would necessitate voter IDs! They found NONE and disbanded, as I have already pointed out. Your misuse of the "red herring" rhetorical device and coupling it with the "straw man" variation show you to be an ignorant person trying to sound smart. You obviously are not. At that I will leave you to sputter and fret the rest of the time ON YOUR OWN! Bye bye........
I believe the restaurant is breaking the law. On each and every Federal Reserve note, (what we all call 'cash' ) it is printed "THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE". Take a look in your wallet. the wording is ALL debts.
I now live in Mexico where using cash for all purchases = including expensive medical visits=is pretty much the rule. I prefer using my Visa since it helps me keep track of what I am spending and also avoids having to carry large sums of cash with me. But in this cash only society, you have to make sure you ask before buying or using the services of any provider if they take Visa and if not, how much it will it cost since leaving without paying is not an option.
It really becomes a problem when you are registering for a CT scan at the hospital to make sure you don't have a brain bleed after a fall and are told before the scan is ordered to , hand over enough pesos somewhere in the vacinity of $160 dollars. Most people don't expect to fall so don't have that much case on hand but not to worry, there is always an ATM machine in the lobby.
. As the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for.
Learn the law. It's a private business. They can tell you that they only accept payment in the form of sawed logs for goods and services rendered and it's perfectly legal.
I stand corrected per Feldspar’s note. While US dollar bills all state: "THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE", they don’t really mean it. From the Federal Reserve website: “There is no federal statute mandating that a private business, a person, or an organization must accept currency or coins as payment for goods or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether to accept cash unless there is a state law that says otherwise.” There appear just a smattering of Cities/States requiring acceptance of cash.
Obviously a very troubling situation as several have already noted in the comments. The Canadian Truckers Strike an up-close demonstration of the staggering societal control Governments can exercise with “electronic currency”.
On the flip side, I wonder if the U.S. can actually force currency and coins OUT of circulation en route to “cashlessness” a point Sweden seems to be at?
Rob, I was under your same impression until reading these comments. Just yesterday I was standing in the lunch line at my local ski area. The kid in front of me tried to buy his Mac n cheese with a $10 bill, and the cashier wouldn’t take it, said card only (new policy being widely adopted at ski areas since Covid). The kid gave me his $10 and I charged his lunch. And I was thinking, yeah says right here all debts public and private. From an operational standpoint I can see why they prefer to not take cash. Much cleaner accounting not to mention doing away with armored cars and all that, at least until power go out or the internet crashes.
Reply to Jrod. Yes, great example Jrod. Since realizing cash can be refused, many examples like the one you list have come to mind. Does it seem a bit ironic, the general push AGAINST ‘voter ID’ laws as ‘people won’t be able to get an ID’ while accepting the push FOR ‘electronic only’ commercial transactions? Knowing the gateway to ‘Electronic only’ commercial transactions is completely guarded by private credit card issuers.
In many poor countries, especially in Africa, paying with your phone is the primary form of payment. This is a huge benefit for countries with few physical banks and large rural and dispersed populations.
Yes but those are relatively free countries as compared to the United States, where the convenience of mobile payments is no longer a marker of efficient and robust commerce but instead an implement of totalitarianism.
I doubt any of those countries are more free than the US. Your claim that mobile payments are a form of totalitarianism is just plain wrong. I managed payments for a multi-billion dollar retailer and know far more about this than you. I am not saying that retailers and payment processors aren’t collecting granular data on everyone to get consumers to buy more or sell advertising. They are.
I was the Treasurer of the company. Very familiar with payment processing technology, interchange and cost structure and applicable laws. Suggest you stay silent unless you speak from knowledge not snark.
Well Shitso, Matt, if he read any of the increasingly absurd crap on Substack would hang his head in despair at the comments. You are a rude, vulgar immature fool who thinks way too much of yourself. Your mommy should wash your mouth out with soap and put you in time out. Bye for now until you can actually make a rational argument. Until then piss off!
I get the advantages for transactions like purchases of food and basic commodities for subsistence.
But this is the point where we need to begin having discussions about the problems of general purpose money, and the advantages of having forms of money that can be separated out and designated for special purposes- acknowledging the differences between currency used for essential subsistence transactions, anonymous currency for personal discretionary purposes and personal property acquisition, and capital investments that should require more accountability for both investment and return, particularly those involving real estate property. https://www.keg.lu.se/en/alf-hornborg
I'm not an expert on these esoteric matters. I'd like to learn that there are ethical people with economics expertise who would be willing to collaborate with people like Alf Hornborg on designing better- specifically less ecocidal- systems of exchange, rather than leaving him to labor in obscurity.A process that would start by having ethical people with economics expertise and unblinkered vision acknowledge that Hornborg has made some invaluable points about the way that both humans and the natural world are being abused in the name of serving the purposes of Markets, when it should be the other way around.
Government doesn’t dictate forms of payment at retail, businesses do. Processing cash deposits requires bodies so retailers prefer credit and debit cards despite the high transaction fees.
Wrong. The government DOES dictate the form of payment - as the commenter said, read what is on the dollar bill. Any business that refuses to take cash is technically breaking the law (but they still get away with it).
Hey dum-dum: The helpful PSA message on your currency refers to government debt, not private debt.
But if you believe otherwise it's you solemn duty as an upright citizen (the assumption is that you're paying your taxes, not a convicted felon, etc.) to enlist a white-shoe law firm and make a good faith attempt to ride your grievance all the way to the Supreme Court so the rest of us may pay for our Denny's Grand Slam Pack with Cold Hard Cash.
The "public debt" claim is wrong, Here is the statute; According to Section 31 U.S.C. 5103 entitled “Legal Tender,” “United States coins and currency [including Federal Reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal Reserve Banks and national banks] are legal tender for all debts, PUBLIC charges, taxes, and dues.” However, There is no federal law about accepting PAPER money, There ARE state laws zhough!
We have a few places like that here in Ottawa. It's disgusting and terrifying.
For me though the most dangerous threat will be the AIs that they will use to spy on us in ways that I cannot even imagine. (I assume that they are doing this now)
They will also be used to enact perfect censorship. AIs could, for example, monitor every post, every tweet, comment and even a WP document in real time. I fully expect the day will come when they will censor us in real time. Any utterance that runs counter to what the state wants will delete itself even as you type it. Or worse, it will be recast so that it's no longer crimespeak but duckspeak.
I recently flew home from Charleston. There was a woman placing an order for herself and her child ... the total came up and she handed the employee a $20 bill. “ No cash, credit cards only.” I was appalled. That’s just wrong. The meal was paid for but I was fuming that people have to have a credit card?!?!
Isn't requiring people to have a credit card just as "racist" as requiring them to have an ID to vote?
I don’t view it as racist at all. No one whether you are wealthy or not should be forced to have a credit card or forced to use it. Personal choice. I also don’t think Voter ID is racist. Everyone should want to prove that they are that registered voter and only an ID does that, it says nothing about your socio economic status. And a Voter ID is free to everyone.
Pretty sure that was Phil was employing that old sarcasm.
Sure was! (guess I need to add it In parentheses)...
Sorry! In my defense, my reaction is testimony to how careful one must be with the topic of voter ID. I did take Phil’s comment literally because there are so many people who vehemently believe it is racist to “ make people prove who they are” and that people of lower socio economic status feel targeted by having to do so. The Voter ID debate has gotten me more personal insults than any other topic. And if you try to explain that allowing certain people an exemption from that requirement actually is bigoted, … duck! Thanks Phil, I was actually afraid to post my response so I’m glad my opinion is shared.
No apology needed Mrs McFarland! I just learned something new on this thread today: "Poe's Law" (I looked it up) and states that comment (online especially) that might be intended as sarcastic often get misinterpreted due to the "tone" missing... from now on I'll add the *(sarcasm) in parentheses) to avoid misinterpretation going forward.
That said - I firmly believe that anyone thinking voter IDs are racist are just insulting people of color because it outright implies they're too ignorant to obtain an ID - when there are so many IDs, permits, licenses etc required in our society already that ARENT considered racist... it's just ridiculous.
I recently tweeted that America is racist because we invented slavery. As proof, I observed that Ben Franklin, our 1st & greatest President, owned a slave AND he was an inventor.
Then people started with AKSHULLY....
I'm literally dead.
Thanks! I learned the hard way about sarcasm and irony. Since by definition, most of the people reading a comment have no idea who I am or what I believe, they have no way to determine my tone and intent, so it's not their fault that my statement was taken the wrong way, it's mine.
I tend to put a little wink ;) emoji in the hope that people will get that, but even then....
Communication is a hard. It really is!
You have nothing to defend against :)
Thanks again.
If I was not able to be cynical and sarcastic about this endless shit show, I’d implode from anger and frustration!!
Yes, Poe's Law, which states that even most extreme irony and sarcasm will be taken literally by some, is always in effect online.
A 2017 study by the Federal Reserve found that Black Americans are less likely than white Americans to have a credit card, with only 54% of Black Americans reporting having a credit card compared to 70% of white Americans. Additionally, the study found that Black Americans who do have credit cards tend to have lower credit limits and higher interest rates than white Americans.
Wrong! The voter ID is a solution to a non-existent problem. They even set up a commission to show how BAD the voter problem was and it eventually disbanded in failure. Any you know things are bad when a committee can´t find what it is desperate to prove! So, why the big push for voter ID. Racism is reason number one and reason number 2 is young people who move around and go to college and just can´t be bothered with any more bureaucrasy. Guess what both these groups have in common....
Voter ID is required to establish election integrity and avoid the rigged elections we've grown to despise. The lowering of standards to include "underrepresented people" is a facade to gin up votes that otherwise would not occur. Studies in the past have pointed out that lax standards lead to fraud. Part of this problem lies with dirty voter rolls. No accountability for the immense number of votes arriving during the wee hours of the morning. Fraud undermines the faith in elections and the Democrats have cornered the market in the various forms of deceit.
Wrong! The Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity.called into action by Trump and chaired by Pence with the explicit goal of finding voting fraud disbanded after only 2 meetings because they were UNABLE TO FIND any evidence of serious fraud! That you could be so wrong while sounding so authoritative is a real hoot!!!
What does having a Voter ID have to do with election fraud? Nothing. It’s a simple cost free administrative requirement for voting. Everyone should want to present identification before filling out a ballot. Most of my childhood was in Europe,so presenting various forms of documentation, identification was SOP. Now I’m not lining up to get a chip installed in my arm, but I’m more than happy to verify who I am.
It is very easy to verify who you are WITHOUT a voter ID. It is just a bureaucratic bother that one has to undergo in order to vote - which, of course, means less people will vote. And which people will be the most effected? Why, of course, the lower classes (which for many is a GOOD RESULT) Wake up, dude.
Seriously, if having to endure the bureaucratic “bother” of getting a Voter ID is enough to decline your right to vote, the don’t. And to make that assumption of the lower classes is bigoted.
It is easier to FAKE who you are without an ID.
Without an ID? Are you for real? The most important thing to have is EXACTLY an ID if you want to successfully fool anyone. A fake voter ID would be perfect!!!!
Inability to “find” evidence does not mean: a) evidence does not or did not exist. b) unlawful acts were not committed. c) the theory presented is demonstrably false.
After all, there is no found evidence that anthropogenic climate change has negatively impacted the human species with regard to life span or quality of life - in fact the Industrial Revolution which has supposedly caused AGW has increased lifespans and living standards all across the planet. Yet people still propose solutions that go against that evidence.
Also no evidence can be found that the covid vaccine keeps you from getting covid yet people on the left believed that as much as the right believed in voter fraud.
The perfect response crafted by a conspiracy theorist nut. Keep on searching for evidence because even if you can't find it I guarantee it's still there.
You just can't find it---not because it doesn't exist, but because you can't find it. Perhaps the evidence is in Sasquatch's fanny pack, or squirreled away in a golden lock box inside the Loch Ness Monster's secret underwater lair. If it's not there, it's surely somewhere---you just can't find it.
Imagine you drive your kids insane with your Easter egg hunt.
There is very little evidence that publius_x has a brain, but we'll give him credit for one because it's getting late and I don't have the energy for a thorough search. But it's there...if you care to find it.
There isn't evidence online that feldspar is a registered Democrat. But that doesn't mean he isn't.
Have not voted in years.
In other words if evidence is inded found then you would be right and if it isn´t found you are right anyway!.So there is no real reason to look for evidence and we should take your word for it based on what again?
No, you idiot. The point is your "no evidence found" is a red herring. A straw man used in argumentation, when it benefits your argument, but not really winning any argument.
You cannot honestly believe that the circumstantial evidence (bellwether counties flipping for the first time in years, large one-sided vote dumps in the middle of the night, changes to vote collection rules, etc.) doesn't point to absolutely NO chicanery.
Trump is right that if the Republicans want to win under the new rules, they have to play fast and loose with vote harvesting and do what the Dems already do.
"No evidence is a red herring!? Really. We are talking about a Trump sponsored committee that was overseen by Pence and the WHOLE IDEA was to find EVIDENCE or the SUPPOSED voter frauds that would necessitate voter IDs! They found NONE and disbanded, as I have already pointed out. Your misuse of the "red herring" rhetorical device and coupling it with the "straw man" variation show you to be an ignorant person trying to sound smart. You obviously are not. At that I will leave you to sputter and fret the rest of the time ON YOUR OWN! Bye bye........
I am smarter than you. The lack of evidence does not mean the lack of criminality. Ask OJ. Just cause the glove don't fit didn't mean he didn't do it.
BTW - here´s a fun article to read! https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/why-republicans-cant-find-the-big-voter-fraud-conspiracy-214972/
Speaking of "gin," go easy on the conspiracy sauce there, sailor.
No, it's not. It's problematic---but it's not racist.
I believe the restaurant is breaking the law. On each and every Federal Reserve note, (what we all call 'cash' ) it is printed "THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE". Take a look in your wallet. the wording is ALL debts.
I now live in Mexico where using cash for all purchases = including expensive medical visits=is pretty much the rule. I prefer using my Visa since it helps me keep track of what I am spending and also avoids having to carry large sums of cash with me. But in this cash only society, you have to make sure you ask before buying or using the services of any provider if they take Visa and if not, how much it will it cost since leaving without paying is not an option.
It really becomes a problem when you are registering for a CT scan at the hospital to make sure you don't have a brain bleed after a fall and are told before the scan is ordered to , hand over enough pesos somewhere in the vacinity of $160 dollars. Most people don't expect to fall so don't have that much case on hand but not to worry, there is always an ATM machine in the lobby.
. As the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for.
Learn the law. It's a private business. They can tell you that they only accept payment in the form of sawed logs for goods and services rendered and it's perfectly legal.
I stand corrected per Feldspar’s note. While US dollar bills all state: "THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE", they don’t really mean it. From the Federal Reserve website: “There is no federal statute mandating that a private business, a person, or an organization must accept currency or coins as payment for goods or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether to accept cash unless there is a state law that says otherwise.” There appear just a smattering of Cities/States requiring acceptance of cash.
Obviously a very troubling situation as several have already noted in the comments. The Canadian Truckers Strike an up-close demonstration of the staggering societal control Governments can exercise with “electronic currency”.
On the flip side, I wonder if the U.S. can actually force currency and coins OUT of circulation en route to “cashlessness” a point Sweden seems to be at?
Rob, I was under your same impression until reading these comments. Just yesterday I was standing in the lunch line at my local ski area. The kid in front of me tried to buy his Mac n cheese with a $10 bill, and the cashier wouldn’t take it, said card only (new policy being widely adopted at ski areas since Covid). The kid gave me his $10 and I charged his lunch. And I was thinking, yeah says right here all debts public and private. From an operational standpoint I can see why they prefer to not take cash. Much cleaner accounting not to mention doing away with armored cars and all that, at least until power go out or the internet crashes.
Reply to Jrod. Yes, great example Jrod. Since realizing cash can be refused, many examples like the one you list have come to mind. Does it seem a bit ironic, the general push AGAINST ‘voter ID’ laws as ‘people won’t be able to get an ID’ while accepting the push FOR ‘electronic only’ commercial transactions? Knowing the gateway to ‘Electronic only’ commercial transactions is completely guarded by private credit card issuers.
Sadly you are correct.
I could open a restaurant that only accepted BTC or even "firewood" as payment, and that would be, thankfully, legal.
Thanks for that reminder, Rob.
Soon you’ll have to have a smart phone for the purchases. Don’t have one? The government has a program to provide one, no cost.
You must be technology dependent and you will be happy. I was the anti -Hippy in the 60s/70s... now I am ready to start my own little GFY commune.
I’m the same vintage. My point was that the government is giving you no excuse to not use their CBDC.
In many poor countries, especially in Africa, paying with your phone is the primary form of payment. This is a huge benefit for countries with few physical banks and large rural and dispersed populations.
Yes but those are relatively free countries as compared to the United States, where the convenience of mobile payments is no longer a marker of efficient and robust commerce but instead an implement of totalitarianism.
I doubt any of those countries are more free than the US. Your claim that mobile payments are a form of totalitarianism is just plain wrong. I managed payments for a multi-billion dollar retailer and know far more about this than you. I am not saying that retailers and payment processors aren’t collecting granular data on everyone to get consumers to buy more or sell advertising. They are.
Call centers aren't exactly the prestige you think they are.
I was the Treasurer of the company. Very familiar with payment processing technology, interchange and cost structure and applicable laws. Suggest you stay silent unless you speak from knowledge not snark.
When you stop posting like a cunt, I’ll consider it.
John Lennon is rolling in his grave that his pseudonym has been co-opted by such a man.
lmao you finally got me to Google Winston O'Boogie
Phisto the Anarchist? Still living with your mommy? Sleeping in your old bedroom and skulking in the basement with your imaginary friends?
Haha u mad
I don't whip out my life's accomplishments like a cock, attempting to impress strangers on the internet.
Keep trying though, Winnie. You'll figure it out someday.
Well Shitso, Matt, if he read any of the increasingly absurd crap on Substack would hang his head in despair at the comments. You are a rude, vulgar immature fool who thinks way too much of yourself. Your mommy should wash your mouth out with soap and put you in time out. Bye for now until you can actually make a rational argument. Until then piss off!
Good one!
I get the advantages for transactions like purchases of food and basic commodities for subsistence.
But this is the point where we need to begin having discussions about the problems of general purpose money, and the advantages of having forms of money that can be separated out and designated for special purposes- acknowledging the differences between currency used for essential subsistence transactions, anonymous currency for personal discretionary purposes and personal property acquisition, and capital investments that should require more accountability for both investment and return, particularly those involving real estate property. https://www.keg.lu.se/en/alf-hornborg
I'm not an expert on these esoteric matters. I'd like to learn that there are ethical people with economics expertise who would be willing to collaborate with people like Alf Hornborg on designing better- specifically less ecocidal- systems of exchange, rather than leaving him to labor in obscurity.A process that would start by having ethical people with economics expertise and unblinkered vision acknowledge that Hornborg has made some invaluable points about the way that both humans and the natural world are being abused in the name of serving the purposes of Markets, when it should be the other way around.
Never thought of money as being an "esoteric matter." Perhaps it's a good habit to begin developing.
Hmm, back to being controlled opposition I see.
Government doesn’t dictate forms of payment at retail, businesses do. Processing cash deposits requires bodies so retailers prefer credit and debit cards despite the high transaction fees.
Wrong. The government DOES dictate the form of payment - as the commenter said, read what is on the dollar bill. Any business that refuses to take cash is technically breaking the law (but they still get away with it).
Hey dum-dum: The helpful PSA message on your currency refers to government debt, not private debt.
But if you believe otherwise it's you solemn duty as an upright citizen (the assumption is that you're paying your taxes, not a convicted felon, etc.) to enlist a white-shoe law firm and make a good faith attempt to ride your grievance all the way to the Supreme Court so the rest of us may pay for our Denny's Grand Slam Pack with Cold Hard Cash.
The "public debt" claim is wrong, Here is the statute; According to Section 31 U.S.C. 5103 entitled “Legal Tender,” “United States coins and currency [including Federal Reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal Reserve Banks and national banks] are legal tender for all debts, PUBLIC charges, taxes, and dues.” However, There is no federal law about accepting PAPER money, There ARE state laws zhough!
Then get on the horn to the lawyers. I'll be closely watching the legal proceedings, you can bet your three-egg omelet on it.
Being cryptic (or obtuse) is a sign of weakness.
Being ignorant is a sign of ignorance. Is that un-obtusey enough for you?
If the “credit card only” policy took place inflight (which it sounds like it did) there’s a rational reason. Credit cards vs cash slows the
incidence of theft.
However, I don’t disagree with the position presented in this piece.
Money makes the world go ‘round and if the governing powers takee away an individual’s ability to control their own money that will surely be acp
We have a few places like that here in Ottawa. It's disgusting and terrifying.
For me though the most dangerous threat will be the AIs that they will use to spy on us in ways that I cannot even imagine. (I assume that they are doing this now)
They will also be used to enact perfect censorship. AIs could, for example, monitor every post, every tweet, comment and even a WP document in real time. I fully expect the day will come when they will censor us in real time. Any utterance that runs counter to what the state wants will delete itself even as you type it. Or worse, it will be recast so that it's no longer crimespeak but duckspeak.
That will surely be a blow to our freedom.
@McDonalds