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Peter Schaeffer's avatar

As Apple (and many other companies) has shown, if you wave a rainbow flag you can get away with anything. Biggest corporate tax evader on the planet? Check. Labor abuses including suicide nets? Check. Firing problematic employees (AGM) for crimethink? Check. Massively supporting Dr. Dre ('Bitches ain't shit, but hoes and tricks')? Check. Exploiting slave labor (Uighurs) while valiantly defending personal privacy? Check. Complete immunity from criticism by the likes of Robin DiAngelo? Check.

The obvious villain here is 'wokeness' that put identity politics ahead of all other issues.

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Michael D (Piketty)'s avatar

Peter - Wokeness is not the villain. IT is is nothing but a ruse meant to distract partisan hacks on the left and the right.

Apple makes money paying lobbyists to write laws that allow then to legally avoid taxes.... And they can do that as long as fools like you care more about politicians that give a shit about WOKE than politicians that have the balls to fight APPLE and the others.

Sanders, Warren, AOC, Khanna, Porter and others have the courate go stand up to Apple but you HATE them all because the media you consume has you more focused on their views on WOKE than what they are actually fighting for...

YOu are the problem, not WOKE

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Commentorinchief's avatar

Do you know how stupid you look shilling the same campaign message over and over again?

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Michael D (Piketty)'s avatar

Do you mean how stupid people that cant gasp basic economics are for not grasping the FACTS

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Michael D (Piketty)'s avatar

Pierce - Put another way. You are easily triggered by people that are not either immersed in your own right wing non factual politics or equally immersed in Rachel Maddow non factual left wing politics. Right?

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Peter Schaeffer's avatar

I did some research into this. Warren (and to a lesser extent Bernie) have denounced Apple as a corporate tax evader. AOC has been notably silent about Apple (as best I can tell). Rep. Khanna really does have an opinion about Apple. Quote "Khanna loves Apple Park".

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Michael D (Piketty)'s avatar

Peter - What politicians have said about Apple is not the be all and end all on their views regarding ECONOMIC policy that will improve the lives of the Poor and Middle class and at the same time GROW the US economy.

Hence: What is your point?

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Peter Schaeffer's avatar

I stated my point earlier. Quote

"As Apple (and many other companies) has shown, if you wave a rainbow flag you can get away with anything. Biggest corporate tax evader on the planet? Check. Labor abuses including suicide nets? Check. Firing problematic employees (AGM) for crimethink? Check. Massively supporting Dr. Dre ('Bitches ain't shit, but hoes and tricks')? Check. Exploiting slave labor (Uighurs) while valiantly defending personal privacy? Check. Complete immunity from criticism by the likes of Robin DiAngelo? Check.

The obvious villain here is 'wokeness' that put identity politics ahead of all other issues."

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溪煮親, Lord Kaingin's avatar

How does Apple not paying taxes harm anyone? Sure, it’s hypocritical and dishonest, but taxation is theft.

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Michael D (Piketty)'s avatar

Gareth - Taxation is not theft. "Give to Caesar which is Caesars and God which is Gods". If taxing is Okay with Christ who am i or you to call it Theft.

That is an old TROPE invented by the rich to convince the poor that they should not vote for leaders that will write policy that will shift income from the rich to the poor.

The problem with Apple not paying taxes is that they are consuming public goods like roads and ports and education and military and courts and they have to be paid for. That is the problem. It is FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE

Companies that are so profitable that they can afford Share Buy Backs after funding future growth, paying stock holder dividends and paying all costs associated with production can pay higher taxes and it will now slow their growth and it will REDUCE public debt.

Dont complain about public debt if you are not trying to collect taxes from sources that wont slow down GDP growth. And if you want to cut debt by less spending that is fine. Just get wages up high enough to produce an actual middle class that actually consume goods and there is no need for high government spending.

If you can't do either you are just fiscally irresponsible.

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Commentorinchief's avatar

Just call it what it really is. Communism.

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Peter Schaeffer's avatar

It's not really communism. Real communism died with the fall of the Berlin wall and the rise of modern China (yes, N. Korea and Cuba are holdouts). Real communism would get plenty of push back from Apple and all of the other 'woke' corporations. The poison-de-jour is Cultural-Marxism, not economic-Marxism. For better or worse, CRT is a more recognized term for this insanity (vs. Cultural Marxism).

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Commentorinchief's avatar

I don’t get the relevance of your point. Is it that I will still have control over my own property instead of the state when the CRT goons line me up against a wall and put a bullet in my head?

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Bob Robertini's avatar

So high and mighty up there on that horse. I hope you don't own any Apple, Samsung or LG product. I hope you don't own a TV. I hope you don't own a laptop of any brand. Because if you do, you're buying things made in China. So you might want to give the whole "China is horrible" thing a rest unless you like being a complete hypocrite.

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Peter Schaeffer's avatar

Please try to read my comment. I do argue that 'Apple is horrible', not that 'China is horrible'. Apple chooses what sort of relationship it has with China and Apple chooses very badly. Apple proudly proclaims how 'progressive' it is. How suicide nets and Uighur slavery fits into that is a tad unclear. Did I leave out the part about 'Bitches ain't shit, but hoes and tricks'? Very progressive.

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Michael D (Piketty)'s avatar

Peter - The obvious villain here are voters that care more about WOKE issues than electing leaders like Sanders and Warren and AOC and Katie Porter and Rho Khana that are actually fighting companies like Apple about the real shit, like tax evasion and monopoly.

Apple truly does not care what side of WOKE you land on. Only that you hate leaders like the ones i mentioned because they don't care as much about WOKE shit as about stopping Apple from screwing us.

And you have fallen hook line and sinker for the trap

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Commentorinchief's avatar

Please provide a source for any time the politicians you cited have denounced CRT. I’ll wait.

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Peter Schaeffer's avatar

E. Warren tweeted "5 years ago Michael Brown was murdered by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri". Of course, that was a pure lie. M. Brown was not murdered. He charged a police officer (after trying to steal the police officers gun) and died as a consequence. The bottom line is that Warren is quite willing to use 'woke' lies to advance her agenda.

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Michael D (Piketty)'s avatar

Peter - Your view on Michael Brown is not shared by most Americans.

But you make my point. You vote Identity politics over Economic politics. That is exactly how we have 40yrs of declining income and wealth for the poor and middle class. Warren is fighting for the poor and middle class on economic issues regardless of whether or not you agree with her on Identity Politics

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Peter Schaeffer's avatar

A law professor (such as Elizabeth Warren) has no excuses for lying about the death of Michael Brown. The Obama Justice Department report was rather clear. Michael Brown was a violent thug and Darren Wilson (the police officer) was entirely innocent. If Warren really cares about the 'poor and middle class' why is she lying about the death of Michael Brown?

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