Both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton raised doubts about elections in the same way, before and after votes
*Any* candidate outside the mainstream consensus will be smeared as a Russian agent. No evidence needed. Because Russia.
In this, Russians play much the same role thst Jews did not so long ago, when any development that the establishment of the day didn't like could be automatically blamed on Jews. No evidence needed. Because Jews.
Hillary is not worried about nuclear war. If Russia fires nukes at Europe and the entire population of the world is wiped out, Hillary will crawl up from the rubble onto what's left of the White House and name herself president.
At this point I'm at the 'let's dip our finger in ink' stage of election security.
Makes you yearn for some adults among our leaders and media. How do we get these clowns?
Yes, they both claimed that, but Trump has more evidence than the left did. They never had any. They were allowed to delegitimize him daily without ever providing ANY. On the other hand, We know votes got switched, election rules were changed illegally, information was censored by the left. We KNOW that. Other than THAT, they both did the same thing, both claimed ahead of time they wouldn't accept the election results of 2020. But Donald Trump is a criminal, this persecution trying to get him at any cost started before he even took office. Trump did not do any such thing in reverse. Iin fact, he didn't try to investigate Hillary after he took office, he let her "classified" mess go. So there are differences here.
I’m of the opinion this stuff has been going on for so long on both sides that we the public know most of this is bluster and ignore said protestations as just bluster... the words are meaningless...
Now, WATCHING 5 STATES STOP
COUNTING at exactly the same time on election night, that doesn’t happen every day, and perks up my antennae... not saying it’s fraudulent, but come on, it’s at least fishy and should be investigated - by legitimately non-partisan people. Not just wait for people to file lawsuits and expect the judicial system to decide who has or doesn’t have standing.
... just like changing election laws before elections seems a little fishy as well... but I digress....
Careful, Matt. Stray to far and the dogs will turn on you. Remember who runs the intelligence agencies now, and what side of the isle they owe their allegiance.
Too many of the loudest voices, don't care about the stability belief in our elections create. All that matters is that they win. Pretending that every election is close to a life or death battle is distorting the more important factor. Harmony. All the noise, about fraud in elections should result in focus. A focus to prove our elections are fair and honest. Anyone that claims to care about "Democracy" should be comfortable with a bi-partisan investigation into our election processes. The fact we haven't seen this type of coalition form is the most concerning.
The Russians hacked the election!
You lunatic, only crazy people would question Dominion digital voting software!
To this (and Part I), I think it is worth adding that our sitting President has already laid the groundwork for calling into question the legitimacy of the 2022 midterms, should they not go favorably for his side.
"The increase in the prospect of being illegitimate is in proportion to not being able to get these reforms passed." Since the "reforms" did not pass, that must mean . . . .
A pair of outstanding reports preserving history. I would note, only the Dems were able to employ the power of the state to undermine faith in election integrity. That is significantly more horrifying.
if voting mattered they wouldn´t let us do it
Burnus Sanders. Thundering Bernie, Man O' Straw. Shameless. But by God, he got his moment in the sun. I had a cool meme button way back in the 70s. It read "Age and treachery always overcome youth and skill."
Just leaving that one out there.
People are so stupid, a critical mass of them literally just regurgitate the national news broadcast, who themselves just parrot what was in the NYTimes that morning, who themselves copy-paste from noxious Twitter threads from the night before.
What I've long wondered now is where the useful idiots begin? How many CNN-heads honestly believe the pap they spew? I mean I'm a complete moron and Jesus these folks are just obviously much stupider than I am.
Gene, I am not disputing that establishment Republicans helped HRC and the DNC but make no mistake, HRC and the DNC were the leaders and masterminds in the 2015/2016 coup attempt to get Trump out of office. They created the Steele Dossier as well as took out Flynn. That is not disputed. They also took out Devin N for a period of time. They also were behind the 2020 election chicanery...Marc Elias works for HRC and he was the mastermind behind the Zuckerbucks, et al
The whole "so-and-so stole the election" talking point ensures that there will almost never be an election result that people view as "valid" unless it confirms "one state, two state, red state, blue state" priors.
For example, in Kansas, I don't think anyone will question it if Jerry Moran gets re-elected to the U.S. Senate, but I can already see things warming up when it comes to the gubernatorial election, that somebody, somewhere, is going to contest it.
And, especially, we'll see this happen time and again with Presidential election, regardless of what evidence does or doesn't say. The playbook is now set and the only question is what play you call (though with Republicans, their play might vary, whereas with Democrats, it will be easily predicted as either "Russia" or "Putin," though they might throw in "Trump rigged it himself" just so they can keep making everything about Trump.)