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Eric's avatar

Interesting that you don’t feel the same way about other countries. You’d be a third class citizen in any Arab country. Any Asian country. Japan has never had an Anglo in their Diet. Do you advocate BDS against them? How about the Arab countries, where women are fifth class citizens? BDS? Your singleminded focus against Israel and your lamentations about what your status would be as a gentile is very interesting.

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Jeffrey Peoples's avatar

You should reread what I wrote more carefully and without letting your prejudice lead you to miss sentences.

“That it is better than Iran is irrelevant.”

I wrote that, which would imply I think Israel is better than Iran, another country, and specifically an Arab one. And it is irrelevant to the case of Israel. When a thief comes into a court, it is no argument to his innocence that someone else is a thief or a murderer.

Japan, by the way, has no laws equivalent to that of Israel’s Nation State law and law of return. There is no law that states only people of Japanese or Buddhist or whatever decent have a right to national determination. There are no laws that specifically privilege people who have Japanese or Buddhist grandparents. If it did, I’d say they are just as bad as Israel.

I don’t have a “single minded focus against Israel” -- I have a focus about whatever topic is being discussed. And the topic was a journalist being fired because of criticizing Israel. And here you are complaining about me criticizing Israel. From my knowledge there aren’t powerful organizations that have much sway at suppressing criticism of Iran or Japan for that matter and no journalist has been fired for it.

A journalist though was murdered on behest of Saudi Arabia’s state, and particularly the prince, which I’d like more journalists focusing on, specifically how powerful US politicians still treat Saudi Arabia with such honor.

As for BDS, I don’t even support that for Israel, so why would I support it for Japan, which I have more current respect for? You made so many assumptions about me simply because I had a critical opinion about Israel.

“lamentations about what your status would be as a gentile is very interesting.”

Lamentation is a bit of an exaggeration for my expression of judgement based on how I would be treated in Israel, no? Perhaps you have never read Lamentations in the Bible? Would you expect me to embrace an inferior status in Israel? Would you expect me to embrace an inferior status in Pakistan as well? Do you share the same sentiment toward women who don’t like the way they are treated in Iran? Or for women who are not living in Iran but says something critical of their laws? “Oh you American woman expressing anger at the laws of Iran! Such a busybody! You have it great in America! And at least Iranian women don’t live like North Korean women! Why aren’t you critical of North Korea! Very suspicious!”

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Rob Brown's avatar

"Don't feel the same way about other countries..."

Ask any critic of Israel how they feel about Saudi Arabia's ongoing genocide in Yemen. I can guarantee you that the vast majority of them, if not literally all of them, will tell you that what Saudi Arabia is doing there is evil. They are consistently anti-genocide.

Also, how well or poorly I would be treated in certain Middle Eastern countries is beside the point. Whenever I tell this story I always wish I had saved a link to the tweet, but I remember somebody telling Glenn Greenwald "You know that if you lived in Gaza, you'd probably be killed because you're gay, right?" And Glenn, to his immense credit IMO, said something like "Doesn't matter. I'm not going to turn a blind eye to people there being killed and almost starved, no matter how they might feel about me."

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