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NATO wants a full blown war with Russia and so do the people in the state department because they do not want negotiations with Russia. Gen Milley says we should negotiate now.

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No. NATO wants Putin forced out of office by his own people and they out smarted him by getting him to Panick and start the war with Ukraine.

If NATO gets in an actual war then it failed in its mission. If the Russians take Putin out of office then NATO has succeeded. Putin should not have invaded in Ukraine. He fell for the NATO trap. He is pretty evil dude. I hope Russia gets rid of him. But the reality is he is pretty popular.

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People think the UN and NATI are the good guys They are NOT the giid guys, nor is the US Military Industrial Complex

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Tucker is being well paid for misifnroming Americans. Not just be Fox either. He is literally a paid propagandist for the donor class. That is why he ignores any issue that would take money from the people funding him...

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The number one most important factor for determining quality of life on Earth is this:

What kind of system do you live under?

Think about it. If you tell us what kind of systems you live under - from systems of government, medicine, infrastructure, education, community, religion and more - chances are we can predict what kind of life you have.

Let's examine some recent problems: FTX. Voting systems. Medicine. Corruption. War. Homelessness.

It’s our own fault. All of it.

We have embraced the wrong kind of systems that govern over us - centralized ones - and they have become corrupted. It is time to change that. We need to understand and embrace decentralized systems, and fear centralized non transparent ones. And we need to be able to spot the difference.

Can you?

Once we recognize a system has been corrupted, it’s time to bust out the anecdote: TRANSPARENCY and DECENTRALIZATION.

We need to decentralize that power but then still organize in a meaningful way. We're talking to you too Matt Taibbi! You are a decentralized news journalist, and at The Rationalist we commend that and that is why we pay to subscribe (bravo and kudos to you for being intellectually brave). Decentralized media like you is taking down the centralized propaganda media conglomerates. It is beautiful.

But in order to reach your full potential the decentralized news outlets - you, and all the trusted independent journalists like saagar and krystal, and the podcasters, etc - have to find a way to organize better - but it must stay decentralized (there is a fine but clear line).. The best system isn't just a decentralized one. It is a highly transparent and highly organized decentralized one. One that mimics what a centralized one can do in terms of execution, but is still not under the control of any one central entity. Think of the difference between single cell organisms and multi celled organisms.

Who wants to be part of a society of problem solvers instead of just complainers? Please, let's talk.

https://joshketry.substack.com/p/embrace-decentralized-systems-fear

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You sound too dogmatic to be "rational". Decentralization is certainly needed in many ways. But some sort of a dogmatic translation of that is just navel gazing if you ask me.

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When busting out an anecdote, consider busting out an antidote, which is what your examples are.

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I find it a little misleading when Kirn says that we should be singing the praises of our democracy and how well it functioned when a divided country comes out of an election with a divided govt, and when Taibbi agreed with him.

Yes a divided govt is representative of a divided nation, but that doesn't mean that people's votes aren't being suppressed, or that partisan gerrymandering isn't a problem, nor does it mean that the base of at least one of our two major parties hasn't stopped believing in democracy. Those things are real, as is the sentiment that winning is good enough, and the majority of the people's wishes are immaterial. These things are real. In conversations with MAGA friends I hear it a lot. They won, and how they won doesn't matter. Political operatives and politicians may have always felt that way, but regular voters didn't. They wanted their side to win, but they still embraced the Democratic process...well the process we have, that is at least based on democracy

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Hooker,

I think it is critical for MT and Kirn to stick to the script to hold on to this audience. Of course they know that MAGA is totally fine with cheating to win. But if they actually articulate that then MAGA will stop reading this and go back to Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson.

That is the one rule of Fight Club (Err.... TK News) Never, ever, under any circumstances let the MAGA crowed know they are full of shit... Just tease out the nuggets of truth they believe in and hammer them endlessly.

Yes you are right MAGA nation does not give a shit about democracy. They are almost certainly Fascist, but they are not even smart enough to realize it.

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Ukraine is the money laundering capital of the world. Everything else is a distraction. Burisma ( Hunter Biden 'employer' )!is in Ukraine

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You both expected the usual "how to survive Thanksgiving" columns from the press, but I guess they decided to give the journalists the day off and just go direct-to-the-consumer:https://thehill.com/homenews/3747822-white-house-releases-turkey-day-talking-points-for-family-dinner/

Wishing you a Happy Thanksgiving -- all football (real football, not oppression-washing soccer) and no politics!

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More about Ukraine’s Nazi government and Nazi state:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5SdsYqeAuY

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You have a very strong cogent view. I admire that. Putin has been an enemy that the West can not stand and is very popular. With the PSYOP we are living in about creating social scores and a one world government, it is pretty easy to view things through an identity politics lens.

Putin is popular because he got rid of the oligarchs that hollowed Russia out. Mikhail Khodorkovsky was his greatest enemy. Oligarchs like khordorkovsky took state owned facilities and bought them for pennies on the dollar when Yelsen was in charge. Khodorkovsky ran the oil and some of the banking business and killed a few Siberian mayors who complained about losing jobs when he shut down nonprofitable operations.Putin restored all that and saved jobs. To be in Russian politics you must be brutal and be a killer. Khodorkovsky is lucky to be alive, exiled to Britain and not having drunk plutonium tea yet.

Sanctions only hurt the Russian people. They will not learn to love us more. I sometimes wish we had a nationalist leader like Putin. The leader would be a nationalist that would create opportunity by bring back good paying manufacturing jobs to restore equality through economic opportunity. Instead we have shitty service jobs that pay nothing and equity through outcomes as part of the mantra. At least the Russians got Putin but what did we get? A personally flawed, pugnacious, and Washington stupid America first Donald Trump. See now we get into politics again

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NATO caused this war. Putin, however started it and it is an ILLEGAL war as awful as the US invasion of Iraq.

Three US Presidents did nothing to stop this war from happening. Still, it was Putin who ordered the start of the war and Putin who, like Bush, is a War Criminal.

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GF

Good point. I think you are right. Presidents don't run on issues like this. But McStain does not give a shit about making America more safe. He cares only about holding power. Who was paying him to push the ANti Putin agenda? (Big Oil???)

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I was not even the least bit interested in these things when McCain was running for President. So i wont pretend to know whether his views were misguided on Russia. But i find the article no the least bit persuasive. Poor opinion at best.

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GF

That sounds about right. Certainly there were points where we could have worked with Putin to make him an alley. NATO chose not to...

Do you think it was just left over ideology from the Cold War or was it more strategic?

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Sending a link to the laughable propaganda you consume.. Good for you, now we know another source for misinforming you daily..

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Honey this entire past ten years has been a propagandist dream! I posted a link that I feel deserves consideration. I did not say, this true. I SAID WTF? Just go back to CNN where you can consume your preferred propaganda. It will all shake out in the end

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Outa

I stopped watching CNN because they mislead America about Russia Gate. Now we have Ukraine and they are doing the same thing. They also mislead us about WMD's and 911... I trust Gleen Greenwald and Noam Chomsky on Ukraine not CNN.

When a media source proves to be wrong i stop trusting them. How about you?

Brownstone has pushed so many lies i don't even know where to start. Only a fool would trust anything they say or put it out for "consideration"

<<Overall, we rate the Brownstone Institute Right Biased based on editorial positions that favor a conservative-libertarian perspective. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to a numerous failed fact checks and the promotion of misinformation regarding Covid-19.>>

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/brownstone-institute-bias/

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That is the first time I saw the Brownstone. Don't remember how it popped up in some feed. I have friends who have family in Ukraine so I tend to believe them over any media. I trust Matt Taibbi, used to trust RobertMalone but now not so sure. Same with Peter McCullough I DO trust Geert Vanden Bosche. So much stuff I read real time has been scrubbed from the internet. So much propaganda I don't trust anyone or thing

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Thank you...

Scott Ritter at his best – a must see short video: https://youtu.be/iAhdHIOd-9w

Scott Ritter: Talks German (and US) Government Politics – Nov. 19, 2022

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Trump needs to retire from the field.

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