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Btn1135's avatar

Let’s make this a confession time: we were saying this during the Bush years without reading Frank’s book anyways.

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Skeptic's avatar

In fairness to both of you, Bush was genuinely a terrible president (and I'm a conservative). The Iraq War was a train wreck, and everything he touched seemed to go awry.

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Stxbuck's avatar

Bush totally trashed and burned the conservative brand, between No Child Left Behind and the Iraq fiasco. Thanks a lot Dubya.

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Todd's avatar

Dubya, clown dumbass of the treasonous Bush clan. Not interested in hearing anything from that family until they disown Comrade Neil Bush of the CCP...

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sasinsea's avatar

Deeply bizarre how many "liberals" are falling all over themselves to praise Bush in contrast to Trump. I genuinely dislike both but Bush was the torture president. He sanctioned fucking torture! He wasn't more humane or decent---he was just less gauche and embarrassing than Trump.

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Skeptic's avatar

I am a strong civil libertarian on the right. In my view, we've had three devastating attacks on our norms of individual rights and constitutional process in the last 20 years: (1) authorization of torture under Bush; (2) the claim that the government can seize a US citizen on US soil and deny habeas corpus and all due process rights if they label him a terrorist (Jose Padilla), again under Bush; (3) the attempt to destroy and remove a duly elected president through the Russian collusion hoax manufactured by political operatives working with allies in the FBI and intelligence services. It's still not clear if our constitutional republic will survive the last one.

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