I think the jab wasn't hubris at play, it was bowel-loosening panic that if they didn't abort their out-of-control murder rocket immediately, they would be found out and strung up by We the People. The vaccine was their panic-driven attempt to control the damage and save themselves from a Nuremberg trial.
I think the jab wasn't hubris at play, it was bowel-loosening panic that if they didn't abort their out-of-control murder rocket immediately, they would be found out and strung up by We the People. The vaccine was their panic-driven attempt to control the damage and save themselves from a Nuremberg trial.
That NOBODY has been held responsible for this disaster, and that the U.S. government is still ordering Big Tech to censor citizen communications in violation of the First Amendment, seems proof that the coverup and censorship are working. If they can hold out another few years, Americans will be on to some other disaster, and The Rocket Boyz will have gotten away with mass murder.
We need Nuremberg trials over this, or at least a 9-11 Commission. What we'll get is a congressional subcommittee report, which is Much Sound and Fury, Signifying Nothing.
We the people need to step back and look at the sequence of lies and deceptions that have cost millions of lives and tens if not hundreds of billions of our nation's wealth.
I agree completely, Steve. This killed so many millions around the world, and wreaked so much financial and social damage, that the world needs to conduct Nuremberg-level trials to assess blame and put the real details on the global record.
Failing that, the United States needs to conduct a 9-11 Commission report to do the same minus criminal sanctions. It's not perfect, but at least the details will be on the record for all to see, in hopes of avoiding the next bioengineered plague.
My fear is when all is said and done, We the People will hear the immortal words of Judge Smales in "Caddyshack"--"Youi'll get nothing and you'll like it!"
As others have noted something like the Nuremberg Trials are justified with Faucci, Danzig and other mass murderers facing justice. If you grant them that the research was necessary (something I am not willing to do) sending it to the Wuhan Military Lab was a gross error and looking the other way at the failure to conduct the work at the promised Level 4 and to not even maintain the required standards for Level 2 is not only the responsibility of the Chinese but also of Faucci and the others here in the US. It is the equivalent of several thousand Titanics plus the vast economic consequences.
The White House was swift to react to the situation......... Apparently there is an immediate purge of reporters who will be allowed entry to the White House briefings. Pesky folks who discuss facts and request answers will no longer be allowed . This will not only help the administration's image but reward the mainstream media which continues to swallow the party line, including the daily dose of misinformation and denial.
Nothing at all other than wasting billions in taxpayer money. Another total waste. Just like anything other than a complete revolution by We The People.
It put into the formal record the events of 9/11, who caused them, our response during the attacks, and our response following the events. It laid out the changes we should make to fend off a similar attack on the United States in the future.
We held the parties accountable by other means; i.e., war. But this remains a useful explainer of how we got to that point, why, and what we should have done better.
I'll respectfully disagree and suggest that all it did was reify a "problem" that didn't even exist and provide justification for much of the Spy State apparatus that now exists. The "problem" wasn't bombs on airplanes. None of the 9/11 hijackers had a bomb, yet the TSA, DHS, and Patriot Act all followed. Think more on what the 9/11 report *really* did.
Do you think concretizing narratives is just an idea the folks in power came up with last week? Just since Trump? WMD anyone?
How many more times does Lucy have to pull the football away from you before you realize your government is *never* going to let you kick the football.
Those who believed bin Laden did not have the means or intent had not read his "declaration of war" or looked at the sophisticated and fatal attacks on our diplomatic buildings in Africa or the bombing of the Cole
Those who believed that nobody had considered the impact of flying a transport size airplane into a large, critical building had probably not read Tom Clancey
As a footnote, after the Pentagon had been repaired a small group of us were taken on an escorted tour while a family member was having a private retirement meeting with some senior staff.
The young Marine had taken us on a 30 minute tour, walking backwards and without fail briefing us on each piece of original artwork. Eventually we entered the memorial room where the plane struck the building . My thought , as a pilot with 30 years of flying , highly improbable that the pilot of the airplane was not a very experienced pilot to have brought the airplane over a nearby building and perfectly into the base of the Pentagon
The press was singularly uninterested, even after the Clintonian defense collapsed, as to why Sandy Berger was stealing documents from the national archives. The documents were NSC briefing notes WITH the comments of the individual attendees covering the period prior to 9-11. We had located bin Laden in Afghanistan where he hosted Saudi donors to his cause and had the capability to kill him. The Clinton gang was good with the concept with one condition. The small team of special forces inserted deep into Afghanistan would have to identify themselves and demand bin Laden's surrender rather than kill him with a sniper shot or LGB using the SF gang to put the laser on the target and then escape. Had they not killed that plan there's a good chance that 9-11 would not have happened. The Clintons took time from various other legal matters to spread the story that Berger was simply an absent minded professor who accidentally mixed the papers with his notes. However, security videos showed that he wrapped the papers around his leg and pulled his sock up over them and then , after leaving , put them under a construction trailer.
What has become just as relevant to remember today, were the government's actions on 9/11. Even after they all went on the air to proclaim that no one had ever imagined using airliners as a terrorist weapon when, coincidentally, that scenario was being played out as a simulation on that same day.
In the case of COVID there was the Event 201 scenario played out 3 month's before the outbreak. I will admit I had heard about Event 201 but had dismissed it foolishly because IMO it was being discussed by right-wing nut cases. Oops. Isn't it interesting how sometimes outlandish theories turn out to be true later? Are these folks like canaries in a coal mine?
Equally respectfully, what would you have done instead in response to 9-11? Congressional hearings? Same problem as the commission. Wage war? Tried that, lost same. Go to war against a state that had nothing to do with 9-11? Tried that too, lost same. Find and kill bin Laden. Success. Did that make America safer? No.
Second - Punitive Expedition. Period. Just like Jefferson did to the Barbary Pirates (with a declaration of War from Congress, not an indefinite AUMF) that gave us the line in the Marines Hymn "to the shores of Tripoli."
Bin Laden was in Pakistan after we lost him at Tora Bora and only an idiot didn't know that by about mid-2005. Yet we stayed there for how many more years while the govt gravy train grooved right along? You think that was all "legit?"? Hell, we stayed there AFTER we got him by how many years?
The 9/11 commission did NOTHING useful. NOTHING. Just like it was meant to.
Who said it was all on the legit? Not me. We invaded Afghanistan for political necessity--if Bush did not blow up someone, no matter how right or wrong the target, he would be kicked out of office. So we went in guns blazing. OK, that's the punitive expedition about which you write, and politicians use them to chill public fury and ensure they stay in office. But at least Jefferson ended the Barbary Pirate problem with his expedition, and he didn't stay two decades. We didn't end anything with our twenty-year jihad in the Middle East.
If our counterstrike was on the legit, we would have left Afghanistan the day after announcing the death of bin-Laden, and we never, ever, would have invaded Iraq. Both were acts explained only by knowing that Big War was making a fortune on these fights, and so were a lot of other people: can't spend six trillion dollars on two wars without a lot of it going into private pockets. That was the grift, that was the racket---the failure to end the wars the moment we got bin-Laden, and frankly, the bullshit several years' gap between "losing" him at Tora Bora and magically "finding" him in Pakistan. We HAD to have known he was in Pakistan. Why didn't we act immediately?
I found the 9-11 Commission report useful as a way to digest the events of that day and the years leading up to it. No, it did not resolve anything, but it couldn't---it was not a criminal trial. It only made it easy for people to understand what happened that day, and why.
Love me some Smedley, and he's even more relevant now, with our enormous MIC, then he was back in the day, when the MIC was smaller.
Perhaps one of the reasons Hillary destroyed so many emails and such was that we had tracked bin Laden to Afghanistan -he had issued his declaration of war and had also bombed two embassies with a large loss of life and nearly sunk the Cole, also with a substantial loss of life. Special Forces wanted to send in a sniper team, kill bin Laden and depart. However , the Clinton White House required that the special forces request bin Laden surrender before taking the shot.
Clinton didn't destroy any emails. She was found by the FBI to have acted "extremely careless with the emails on her private server but [the FBI] did not find she or her aides acted in a way that amounted to intentional misconduct—from which it can be concluded that it found no evidence of intent to destroy evidence..."
If you read what actually happened (which sounds like a practice run for Hunter Biden) the investigator essentially told Clinton's lawyer that we want to see all the emails after you destroy what you don't want us to see. Later when they went to check the computer of the Legendary Carlos Danger, (Aka Mr Huma Abadeen ) they found that the same computer he used to pursue very young women , cruising the dark corners as Carlos Danger, also contained hundreds of classified emails sent from Hillary to Huma and Huma to Carlos Danger to print hard copies. Hillary also had thousands stored on various servers. Also you might recall that tens of thousands of IRS emails relating to Lois Lerner's war on conservative organizations simply disappeared with the excuse that we destroyed the servers. Finally you might recall that a Clinton insider went to the National Archives to steal and destroy records on behalf of the Clintons relating to the decision not to kill bin Laden.
Billy Clinton came up for air long enough to state that the individual was probably just absent minded when he left with the papers although cameras showed that he had them rolled up under his pants leg and removed them a short distance away where he hid them.
Sounds like you're working on a new role-playing game for the next generation. Throw in a few dragons and witches and I think you've got a real money-maker on your hands.
One of the fatal mistakes we made was to stall the advance of the Northern Alliance in order for a very timid Hamid Karzi to appear with a large force of US troops to take charge of Afghanistan.
The Kurds and others from the north were the warriors who defeated the Soviets had pushed the Taliban far to the south.
A great story of essentially a mounted cavalry with a few US special forces often riding horseback. The game changer was the laser targeting ability of the Special forces riding with the Northern Alliance and the long range, precision strike capability of the F-14s with their speed , range, precision targeting and weapons systems. Their air support was withdrawn because the US favored Karzi
When we worked with the Northern Alliance they were in the lead . With Karzi their troops usually needed to be tugged along which contributed to bin Laden's escape
Had the Clinton administration had the courage to kill bin Laden (they had multiple opportunities and justification) it's likely that 9-11 would not have happened and the invasion of Afghanistan would not have been necessary.
Bin Laden understood that the Northern Alliance was the important force and in a brilliant move killed its leader the weekend before 9-11. The timing was classic John Boyd, as our intel agents were just beginning to think about why the Northern Alliance leader was killed as the hijackers were striking on September 11.
Afghanistan had pretty much been at peace after the Northern Alliance (with US help ) caused the Soviets to retreat.
Absolutely yes. The Northern Alliance was effective, our Special Forces coordinated with them to great effect on horseback, and our throwing in with Karzi was one of many screwups we made over there. Also agree that we should have taken out bin Laden years before 9-11 and I don't know why we didn't. We spend trillions on national defense, why not use it effectively?
Some very bad advice/direction in the White House. Pretty sure the reason the papers were stolen from the national archives were related to the rejection of the plan to kill bin Laden. To be fair they did not reject the plan, they just added the condition that we had to walk into the middle of his camp far inland and in the middle of his army and demand his surrender.
He had a large camp that his wealthy Saudi financiers used to fly their jets into to go hunting. Bin Laden was sophisticated enough and had the arms (partly thanks to us) to defeat a very large contingent of Russian troops with helicopters and attack jets.
Look at today's FBI they take a full Swat team with multiple armored vehicles to arrest someone for minor alleged offenses.
And lest you get the wrong ideas about me, let me offer this factoid: I spent 15 out of 21 months of my life (at one point) in post-9/11 Afghanistan, so I'm one of the suckers who believed in it, probably harder than even you.
So let me ask the rhetorical question this way: if you believe that very powerful people were willing to cover up and take advantage of their own citizens over an engineered pathogen that THEY were responsible for releasing on the world - what makes you think they wouldn't do the same over something like 9/11? And I'm not talking about the loonier stuff about 9/11, but how many times will you use the word "conspiracy theory" and not realize that if it happened this time, it's possible it happened before?
I saw this after I wrote my other note. This is very good, thanks. If you volunteered for Afghanistan, yes, you were a believer. I admire you for doing it.
I don't think I've ever uttered "conspiracy theory," but if you meant that in a broader sense, yes, many such theories were floating around after 9-11--and still are. I just don't buy them, because that would make government far more smart, savvy, and able to keep a secret among thousands of employees than it is capable of doing.
I believe 9-11 was pretty much as we saw: a group of terrorists saw an opening to strike the Great Satan and took full advantage, killing thousands of us by driving airplanes into buildings. As with Pearl Harbor, we were asleep at the switch, thinking that mere "savages" like Islamic fundamentalists could never do something like this to great grand glorious us. We didn't take the warning shots seriously, either: the baby Twin Towers attack, the Marine barracks bombing, the Embassies' bombings, the USS Cole.
So we got pasted. We retaliated for twenty years, spending six trillion in the process, killing bin-Laden but still not ending the wars, cementing Patriot Act and other odious legislation into our mentality, and making the MIC richer than any Sun King of history, all of which proved General Smedley Butler old axiom, "War is a racket."
Absolutely. Ironically, they would have loved to get rid of him because of the War Is a Racket stuff--but didn't dare because of the Medals of Honor. Makes me smile thinking about how he beat the system by using the system.
They put Jamie Gorelick on the 9/11 commission. She was the former Deputy Attorney General who created the policy that precluded the CIA from sharing info about terrorists with the FBI. She should have been a witness, not a commission member. Irony is, I think that the CIA should not automatically share info with the FBI or other agencies....but she her policy really cocked things up.
- We had the opportunity to kill bin Laden ( after the attack on the Cole, his Declaration of War , deadly bombing of two US embassies.
CIA had located bin Laden in Afghanistan were he hosted hunting trips for his wealthy Saudi sponsors.
Special forces had two options - A) Team sniper would engage bin Laden at extreme range or B) Special Forces would identify bin Laden and illuminate him with Laser , F-14 would drop laser guided bomb. It was a high risk but doable mission. However, Gorelick and others inserted a requirement that the Special Forces must identify themselves and demand Bin Laden's surrender . This despite the fact that a) binLaden had declared war on the US b) attacked and nearly sunk the Cole with many casualties c) Bombed multiple US Embassies in Africa with significant deaths.
The same brain trust 1) prevented the FBI from seizing the Blind Sheik's computer 2) failed to acknowledge that binLaden had declared war on the US.
The democrats were still arguing about dangling chads when bin Laden again demonstrated his intellect, killing the head of the Northern Alliance over the weekend prior to the 9-11 attack , confident that the US intelligence would not understand the significance of the death until after the 9-11 attack.
I had flown back into Santa Monica very late Sunday night Sept 10 and was still sleeping when the phone rang. " Craig was right .... are you watching TV ?......" came across before I uttered hello.... That something immense happened was no surprise
When I read these emails in this context, I realize that these government institutional "scientists" not only had prior working knowledge of this virus, but that they knew where it came from. Why would American scientists want to cover up a Chinese bio weaponized virus?
Consider this:
1. The Chinese shares the Sars-Co-V-2 virus genome with the world on the weekend of January 11/12, 2020. Why?
4. Interview with Tony Fauci in March 2020 where Fauci says it would take a year and a half to even see if a vaccine works. https://edhub.ama-assn.org/jn-learning/audio-player/18297084 The vaccine is injected into the first study subjects 5 months after this interview.
5. November 2020, 7 months later, Pfizer product is ready for EUA and mass vaccination (delayed roll-out 3 more weeks so as not to help the incumbent President), still only 8 months from start development to full market of a novel technology vaccine for a novel virus. Hmmmmm....
Perhaps they (DARPA?) did not let these stooges in on the fact that they had this vaccine in preparation for THIS virus in the pipeline already. One thing is for sure that these corrupt and dishonest men knew this was a virus made in a lab with the tell-tail furin cleavage site and they were actively trying to pass it off as a wet market pangolin source. The question is...why?
So there is reporting today that on Monday, HHS authored a memo "suspending funding to Wuhan lab." That's the headline at The Hill this morning. The story quotes the memo as saying "there is a risk that WIV not only previously violated, but is currently violating, and will continue to violate, protocols of the NIH." Really, Gracie?
The story goes on to say that the WIV has not received any federal money since 2020. If all this reporting is correct, how interesting the Biden administration would giddyup a non-funding Wuhan memo at the same time as the Covid Origins Story is starting to see the light of day. These people aren't even passable liars.
I think the jab wasn't hubris at play, it was bowel-loosening panic that if they didn't abort their out-of-control murder rocket immediately, they would be found out and strung up by We the People. The vaccine was their panic-driven attempt to control the damage and save themselves from a Nuremberg trial.
That NOBODY has been held responsible for this disaster, and that the U.S. government is still ordering Big Tech to censor citizen communications in violation of the First Amendment, seems proof that the coverup and censorship are working. If they can hold out another few years, Americans will be on to some other disaster, and The Rocket Boyz will have gotten away with mass murder.
We need Nuremberg trials over this, or at least a 9-11 Commission. What we'll get is a congressional subcommittee report, which is Much Sound and Fury, Signifying Nothing.
We the people need to step back and look at the sequence of lies and deceptions that have cost millions of lives and tens if not hundreds of billions of our nation's wealth.
Will we allow ourselves to be deceived again?
I agree completely, Steve. This killed so many millions around the world, and wreaked so much financial and social damage, that the world needs to conduct Nuremberg-level trials to assess blame and put the real details on the global record.
Failing that, the United States needs to conduct a 9-11 Commission report to do the same minus criminal sanctions. It's not perfect, but at least the details will be on the record for all to see, in hopes of avoiding the next bioengineered plague.
My fear is when all is said and done, We the People will hear the immortal words of Judge Smales in "Caddyshack"--"Youi'll get nothing and you'll like it!"
As others have noted something like the Nuremberg Trials are justified with Faucci, Danzig and other mass murderers facing justice. If you grant them that the research was necessary (something I am not willing to do) sending it to the Wuhan Military Lab was a gross error and looking the other way at the failure to conduct the work at the promised Level 4 and to not even maintain the required standards for Level 2 is not only the responsibility of the Chinese but also of Faucci and the others here in the US. It is the equivalent of several thousand Titanics plus the vast economic consequences.
The White House was swift to react to the situation......... Apparently there is an immediate purge of reporters who will be allowed entry to the White House briefings. Pesky folks who discuss facts and request answers will no longer be allowed . This will not only help the administration's image but reward the mainstream media which continues to swallow the party line, including the daily dose of misinformation and denial.
It's easy to grin,
when your ship comes in,
and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man who's wothwhile,
is the man who can smile,
when his shorts are too tight in the seat.
Uhhh, not to rain on anyone's parade, but WTF did the 9/11 Commission Accomplish exactly?
Nothing at all other than wasting billions in taxpayer money. Another total waste. Just like anything other than a complete revolution by We The People.
It put into the formal record the events of 9/11, who caused them, our response during the attacks, and our response following the events. It laid out the changes we should make to fend off a similar attack on the United States in the future.
We held the parties accountable by other means; i.e., war. But this remains a useful explainer of how we got to that point, why, and what we should have done better.
I'll respectfully disagree and suggest that all it did was reify a "problem" that didn't even exist and provide justification for much of the Spy State apparatus that now exists. The "problem" wasn't bombs on airplanes. None of the 9/11 hijackers had a bomb, yet the TSA, DHS, and Patriot Act all followed. Think more on what the 9/11 report *really* did.
Do you think concretizing narratives is just an idea the folks in power came up with last week? Just since Trump? WMD anyone?
How many more times does Lucy have to pull the football away from you before you realize your government is *never* going to let you kick the football.
Those who believed bin Laden did not have the means or intent had not read his "declaration of war" or looked at the sophisticated and fatal attacks on our diplomatic buildings in Africa or the bombing of the Cole
Those who believed that nobody had considered the impact of flying a transport size airplane into a large, critical building had probably not read Tom Clancey
As a footnote, after the Pentagon had been repaired a small group of us were taken on an escorted tour while a family member was having a private retirement meeting with some senior staff.
The young Marine had taken us on a 30 minute tour, walking backwards and without fail briefing us on each piece of original artwork. Eventually we entered the memorial room where the plane struck the building . My thought , as a pilot with 30 years of flying , highly improbable that the pilot of the airplane was not a very experienced pilot to have brought the airplane over a nearby building and perfectly into the base of the Pentagon
The press was singularly uninterested, even after the Clintonian defense collapsed, as to why Sandy Berger was stealing documents from the national archives. The documents were NSC briefing notes WITH the comments of the individual attendees covering the period prior to 9-11. We had located bin Laden in Afghanistan where he hosted Saudi donors to his cause and had the capability to kill him. The Clinton gang was good with the concept with one condition. The small team of special forces inserted deep into Afghanistan would have to identify themselves and demand bin Laden's surrender rather than kill him with a sniper shot or LGB using the SF gang to put the laser on the target and then escape. Had they not killed that plan there's a good chance that 9-11 would not have happened. The Clintons took time from various other legal matters to spread the story that Berger was simply an absent minded professor who accidentally mixed the papers with his notes. However, security videos showed that he wrapped the papers around his leg and pulled his sock up over them and then , after leaving , put them under a construction trailer.
What has become just as relevant to remember today, were the government's actions on 9/11. Even after they all went on the air to proclaim that no one had ever imagined using airliners as a terrorist weapon when, coincidentally, that scenario was being played out as a simulation on that same day.
In the case of COVID there was the Event 201 scenario played out 3 month's before the outbreak. I will admit I had heard about Event 201 but had dismissed it foolishly because IMO it was being discussed by right-wing nut cases. Oops. Isn't it interesting how sometimes outlandish theories turn out to be true later? Are these folks like canaries in a coal mine?
Equally respectfully, what would you have done instead in response to 9-11? Congressional hearings? Same problem as the commission. Wage war? Tried that, lost same. Go to war against a state that had nothing to do with 9-11? Tried that too, lost same. Find and kill bin Laden. Success. Did that make America safer? No.
So, what should we have done instead?
Shane - first, please read my comment above.
Second - Punitive Expedition. Period. Just like Jefferson did to the Barbary Pirates (with a declaration of War from Congress, not an indefinite AUMF) that gave us the line in the Marines Hymn "to the shores of Tripoli."
Bin Laden was in Pakistan after we lost him at Tora Bora and only an idiot didn't know that by about mid-2005. Yet we stayed there for how many more years while the govt gravy train grooved right along? You think that was all "legit?"? Hell, we stayed there AFTER we got him by how many years?
The 9/11 commission did NOTHING useful. NOTHING. Just like it was meant to.
"You think that was all "legit?" "
Who said it was all on the legit? Not me. We invaded Afghanistan for political necessity--if Bush did not blow up someone, no matter how right or wrong the target, he would be kicked out of office. So we went in guns blazing. OK, that's the punitive expedition about which you write, and politicians use them to chill public fury and ensure they stay in office. But at least Jefferson ended the Barbary Pirate problem with his expedition, and he didn't stay two decades. We didn't end anything with our twenty-year jihad in the Middle East.
If our counterstrike was on the legit, we would have left Afghanistan the day after announcing the death of bin-Laden, and we never, ever, would have invaded Iraq. Both were acts explained only by knowing that Big War was making a fortune on these fights, and so were a lot of other people: can't spend six trillion dollars on two wars without a lot of it going into private pockets. That was the grift, that was the racket---the failure to end the wars the moment we got bin-Laden, and frankly, the bullshit several years' gap between "losing" him at Tora Bora and magically "finding" him in Pakistan. We HAD to have known he was in Pakistan. Why didn't we act immediately?
I found the 9-11 Commission report useful as a way to digest the events of that day and the years leading up to it. No, it did not resolve anything, but it couldn't---it was not a criminal trial. It only made it easy for people to understand what happened that day, and why.
Love me some Smedley, and he's even more relevant now, with our enormous MIC, then he was back in the day, when the MIC was smaller.
Perhaps one of the reasons Hillary destroyed so many emails and such was that we had tracked bin Laden to Afghanistan -he had issued his declaration of war and had also bombed two embassies with a large loss of life and nearly sunk the Cole, also with a substantial loss of life. Special Forces wanted to send in a sniper team, kill bin Laden and depart. However , the Clinton White House required that the special forces request bin Laden surrender before taking the shot.
Clinton didn't destroy any emails. She was found by the FBI to have acted "extremely careless with the emails on her private server but [the FBI] did not find she or her aides acted in a way that amounted to intentional misconduct—from which it can be concluded that it found no evidence of intent to destroy evidence..."
If you read what actually happened (which sounds like a practice run for Hunter Biden) the investigator essentially told Clinton's lawyer that we want to see all the emails after you destroy what you don't want us to see. Later when they went to check the computer of the Legendary Carlos Danger, (Aka Mr Huma Abadeen ) they found that the same computer he used to pursue very young women , cruising the dark corners as Carlos Danger, also contained hundreds of classified emails sent from Hillary to Huma and Huma to Carlos Danger to print hard copies. Hillary also had thousands stored on various servers. Also you might recall that tens of thousands of IRS emails relating to Lois Lerner's war on conservative organizations simply disappeared with the excuse that we destroyed the servers. Finally you might recall that a Clinton insider went to the National Archives to steal and destroy records on behalf of the Clintons relating to the decision not to kill bin Laden.
Billy Clinton came up for air long enough to state that the individual was probably just absent minded when he left with the papers although cameras showed that he had them rolled up under his pants leg and removed them a short distance away where he hid them.
Sounds like you're working on a new role-playing game for the next generation. Throw in a few dragons and witches and I think you've got a real money-maker on your hands.
One of the fatal mistakes we made was to stall the advance of the Northern Alliance in order for a very timid Hamid Karzi to appear with a large force of US troops to take charge of Afghanistan.
The Kurds and others from the north were the warriors who defeated the Soviets had pushed the Taliban far to the south.
A great story of essentially a mounted cavalry with a few US special forces often riding horseback. The game changer was the laser targeting ability of the Special forces riding with the Northern Alliance and the long range, precision strike capability of the F-14s with their speed , range, precision targeting and weapons systems. Their air support was withdrawn because the US favored Karzi
When we worked with the Northern Alliance they were in the lead . With Karzi their troops usually needed to be tugged along which contributed to bin Laden's escape
Had the Clinton administration had the courage to kill bin Laden (they had multiple opportunities and justification) it's likely that 9-11 would not have happened and the invasion of Afghanistan would not have been necessary.
Bin Laden understood that the Northern Alliance was the important force and in a brilliant move killed its leader the weekend before 9-11. The timing was classic John Boyd, as our intel agents were just beginning to think about why the Northern Alliance leader was killed as the hijackers were striking on September 11.
Afghanistan had pretty much been at peace after the Northern Alliance (with US help ) caused the Soviets to retreat.
Absolutely yes. The Northern Alliance was effective, our Special Forces coordinated with them to great effect on horseback, and our throwing in with Karzi was one of many screwups we made over there. Also agree that we should have taken out bin Laden years before 9-11 and I don't know why we didn't. We spend trillions on national defense, why not use it effectively?
Great post
Some very bad advice/direction in the White House. Pretty sure the reason the papers were stolen from the national archives were related to the rejection of the plan to kill bin Laden. To be fair they did not reject the plan, they just added the condition that we had to walk into the middle of his camp far inland and in the middle of his army and demand his surrender.
He had a large camp that his wealthy Saudi financiers used to fly their jets into to go hunting. Bin Laden was sophisticated enough and had the arms (partly thanks to us) to defeat a very large contingent of Russian troops with helicopters and attack jets.
Look at today's FBI they take a full Swat team with multiple armored vehicles to arrest someone for minor alleged offenses.
And lest you get the wrong ideas about me, let me offer this factoid: I spent 15 out of 21 months of my life (at one point) in post-9/11 Afghanistan, so I'm one of the suckers who believed in it, probably harder than even you.
So let me ask the rhetorical question this way: if you believe that very powerful people were willing to cover up and take advantage of their own citizens over an engineered pathogen that THEY were responsible for releasing on the world - what makes you think they wouldn't do the same over something like 9/11? And I'm not talking about the loonier stuff about 9/11, but how many times will you use the word "conspiracy theory" and not realize that if it happened this time, it's possible it happened before?
I saw this after I wrote my other note. This is very good, thanks. If you volunteered for Afghanistan, yes, you were a believer. I admire you for doing it.
I don't think I've ever uttered "conspiracy theory," but if you meant that in a broader sense, yes, many such theories were floating around after 9-11--and still are. I just don't buy them, because that would make government far more smart, savvy, and able to keep a secret among thousands of employees than it is capable of doing.
I believe 9-11 was pretty much as we saw: a group of terrorists saw an opening to strike the Great Satan and took full advantage, killing thousands of us by driving airplanes into buildings. As with Pearl Harbor, we were asleep at the switch, thinking that mere "savages" like Islamic fundamentalists could never do something like this to great grand glorious us. We didn't take the warning shots seriously, either: the baby Twin Towers attack, the Marine barracks bombing, the Embassies' bombings, the USS Cole.
So we got pasted. We retaliated for twenty years, spending six trillion in the process, killing bin-Laden but still not ending the wars, cementing Patriot Act and other odious legislation into our mentality, and making the MIC richer than any Sun King of history, all of which proved General Smedley Butler old axiom, "War is a racket."
Smedley was the Man.
The Corps love to praise his two MoHs, but they spend a lot less time talking about his book and stump speeches on "War is a Racket."
Absolutely. Ironically, they would have loved to get rid of him because of the War Is a Racket stuff--but didn't dare because of the Medals of Honor. Makes me smile thinking about how he beat the system by using the system.
Semper fi, brother.
I believe we've established that we vehemently agree.
:-)
So it would appear! Glad we kept talking, it was a fun and enlightening conversation. My best to you, Marine.
They put Jamie Gorelick on the 9/11 commission. She was the former Deputy Attorney General who created the policy that precluded the CIA from sharing info about terrorists with the FBI. She should have been a witness, not a commission member. Irony is, I think that the CIA should not automatically share info with the FBI or other agencies....but she her policy really cocked things up.
Spot on ,
- We had the opportunity to kill bin Laden ( after the attack on the Cole, his Declaration of War , deadly bombing of two US embassies.
CIA had located bin Laden in Afghanistan were he hosted hunting trips for his wealthy Saudi sponsors.
Special forces had two options - A) Team sniper would engage bin Laden at extreme range or B) Special Forces would identify bin Laden and illuminate him with Laser , F-14 would drop laser guided bomb. It was a high risk but doable mission. However, Gorelick and others inserted a requirement that the Special Forces must identify themselves and demand Bin Laden's surrender . This despite the fact that a) binLaden had declared war on the US b) attacked and nearly sunk the Cole with many casualties c) Bombed multiple US Embassies in Africa with significant deaths.
The same brain trust 1) prevented the FBI from seizing the Blind Sheik's computer 2) failed to acknowledge that binLaden had declared war on the US.
The democrats were still arguing about dangling chads when bin Laden again demonstrated his intellect, killing the head of the Northern Alliance over the weekend prior to the 9-11 attack , confident that the US intelligence would not understand the significance of the death until after the 9-11 attack.
I had flown back into Santa Monica very late Sunday night Sept 10 and was still sleeping when the phone rang. " Craig was right .... are you watching TV ?......" came across before I uttered hello.... That something immense happened was no surprise
Thanks, Matt!
When I read these emails in this context, I realize that these government institutional "scientists" not only had prior working knowledge of this virus, but that they knew where it came from. Why would American scientists want to cover up a Chinese bio weaponized virus?
Consider this:
1. The Chinese shares the Sars-Co-V-2 virus genome with the world on the weekend of January 11/12, 2020. Why?
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/01/200131114748.htm
2. BioNtech files a patent for the "vaccine". (Patent/Published
Application) US2020/0155671 BioNTech January 22, 2020 Pending Lipids/NP + mRNA) Wow, that was quick....
3. Pfizer signs on with BioNTech in April 2020 for warp speed testing, marketing, manufacturing https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-further-details-collaboration This is a military operation...
4. Interview with Tony Fauci in March 2020 where Fauci says it would take a year and a half to even see if a vaccine works. https://edhub.ama-assn.org/jn-learning/audio-player/18297084 The vaccine is injected into the first study subjects 5 months after this interview.
5. November 2020, 7 months later, Pfizer product is ready for EUA and mass vaccination (delayed roll-out 3 more weeks so as not to help the incumbent President), still only 8 months from start development to full market of a novel technology vaccine for a novel virus. Hmmmmm....
Perhaps they (DARPA?) did not let these stooges in on the fact that they had this vaccine in preparation for THIS virus in the pipeline already. One thing is for sure that these corrupt and dishonest men knew this was a virus made in a lab with the tell-tail furin cleavage site and they were actively trying to pass it off as a wet market pangolin source. The question is...why?
Because we funded it. The US Govt funded the forbidden gain of function research on this virus that then infected the world.
So there is reporting today that on Monday, HHS authored a memo "suspending funding to Wuhan lab." That's the headline at The Hill this morning. The story quotes the memo as saying "there is a risk that WIV not only previously violated, but is currently violating, and will continue to violate, protocols of the NIH." Really, Gracie?
The story goes on to say that the WIV has not received any federal money since 2020. If all this reporting is correct, how interesting the Biden administration would giddyup a non-funding Wuhan memo at the same time as the Covid Origins Story is starting to see the light of day. These people aren't even passable liars.