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Dwhy's avatar

Remember that time a MAGA lunatic shot up an FBI office? Or the time all those MAGA lunatics stormed the US capitol? Or that time a MAGA lunatic bashed Nancy Pelosi's husband's head with a hammer?

If, by "threat to the Elites", you mean people who literally want to murder politicians and public servants... yeah, I think that's what she meant.

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Burt's avatar

Wait wait wait. You still believe that Pelosi's attacker was a MAGAt?

And WE need reprogramming?

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Dwhy's avatar

I wish I could preserve the ignorance of your comment in a time capsule for future generations to savor.

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Mike Zillion's avatar

Remember that time a trans person shot up a school and everybody stopped caring immediately because it wasn't a MAGA person?

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feldspar's avatar

"Everybody stopped caring immediately." Immediately? No lag time between the caring and the caring stoppage? And how do you know the "trans person" wasn't also a MAGA person? And maybe the caring stoppage was on account of it being a big sports day in the media and all?

And maybe the rest of organized society isn't nearly as obsessed with juxtaposing transexuals and MAGA goofs as you seem to be.

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Dwhy's avatar

Stopped caring about what? The risk of trans extremists going on crazy shooting sprees all over the country?

Oh right, that didn't happen.

Such an idiotic comparison.

*Any* political cause or affiliation will attract some number of unhinged lunatics. It's just that, for most political movements, those people don't form a civilian army to invade the capitol building, and the leaders of the movements don't encourage their followers to do so.

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Taras's avatar

An UNARMED тАЬcivilian armyтАЭ, to be precise, behaving like student radicals taking over a campus: with the difference that student radicals take hostages, and occupy buildings for weeks instead of hours.

While a few hundred yokels and cretins, easily duped, took selfies in the Capitol, Trump was talking to 20,000 peaceful demonstrators on the other side of town.

We now know the only homicide was a Trump supporter killed by an incompetent cop. (A former Air Force MP, the murdered woman was apparently running around trying to prevent violence.) Compare that to DOZENS killed during the 600-700 Antifa/BLM riots.

Compare $1.5 million in damages to billions. Compare zero acts of arson to thousands.

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Dwhy's avatar

"UNARMED"

Couldn't even get three words out without a lie?

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Taras's avatar

ItтАЩs interesting to read liberal тАЬfact checksтАЭ try to rationalize their way around the fact that the Jan. 6 prosecutions have resulted in only a handful of gun charges.

1. Highlight the few guns found тАЬon the groundsтАЭ and in the trunks of peopleтАЩs cars. (Gloss over the fact none of them were ever used.)

2. Quickly change the subject to how youтАЩre armed even if youтАЩre just carrying a stick instead of a gun.

3. And youтАЩre still an insurrectionist even if youтАЩre bare-handed. (Gloss over what such an тАЬinsurrectionтАЭ expects to accomplish, faced by thousands of Federal agents, all of them armed тАФ with guns.)

The most probable explanation of what happened on January 6 is that the Democrats were trying to create a тАЬReichstag FireтАЭ scenario, leaving the Capitol lightly guarded in spite of all warnings. Which of course doesnтАЩt exculpate the yokels and simpletons who obligingly provided the footage which, carefully edited, was exactly what the Democrats were hoping for.

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Dwhy's avatar

"ItтАЩs interesting to read liberal тАЬfact checksтАЭ try to rationalize their way around the fact that the Jan. 6 prosecutions have resulted in only a handful of gun charges."

Ah, so now they're not "UNARMED"?

Nice job "quickly changing the subject" away from your blatant falsehood.

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Taras's avatar

OK, merely 99.5% unarmed? Still very strange for тАЬinsurrectionistsтАЭ bent on тАЬoverthrowing the ConstitutionтАЭ. Especially considering that virtually all the Federal agents they encountered were armed (i.e., with guns).

I note, in liberal media accounts of the George Floyd riots, BLM demonstrators were almost invariably described as тАЬpeacefulтАЭ. I did not consider this a lie as, interpreting the stories with common sense, I understood them to be referring to the large majority of cases, and permitting occasional exceptions.

To their credit, the liberal media rarely refer to the Jan. 6 demonstrators as armed, realizing that would give their readers a false impression.

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Dwhy's avatar

"OK, merely 99.5% unarmed?"

Nope! Nice try though, once again, to obfuscate what was actually said.

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Hunterson7's avatar

The lefty Canadian illegal immigrants who beat Mr. Pelosi was not maga you decrepit liar. Recall the multimonth violent antifa assault on US Federal government buildings in Portland that led to...about zero long term jailing. Remember the blm burning American cities with no repurcussions. Shove off cheap poser.

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DC Reade's avatar

"Recall the multimonth violent antifa assault on US Federal government buildings in Portland that led to...about zero long term jailing"

No matter which "side" someone imagines that they're on in regard to these issues: can't anyone be bothered to check basic facts with an Internet search? A partial list, took me ten minutes. Why do I have to do the legwork,? Everyone else is too busy flinging ideological rhetoric and fictional mythology at each other?

https://www.justice.gov/usao-or/pr/74-people-facing-federal-charges-crimes-committed-during-portland-demonstrations

BLM rioter sentenced to 5 years in prison for setting Portland police building on fire

https://thepostmillennial.com/blm-rioter-sentenced-to-5-years-in-prison-for-setting-portland-police-building-on-fire

Portland protester guilty of arson sentenced to 48 months in prison

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/07/20/portland-protester-guilty-of-arson-sentenced-to-48-months-in-prison/

DA Mike Schmidt announces 10 year sentence for Malik Muhammed for attempted murder, riot and other charges

https://www.mcda.us/index.php/news/da-mike-schmidt-announces-10-year-sentence-for-malik-muhammed-for-attempted-murder-riot-and-other-charges

Violent extremist Alan Swinney sentenced to 10 years in prison for actions in Portland-area protests

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/12/09/violent-extremist-swinney-expresses-solidarity-with-chauvin-from-portland-jail/

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Dwhy's avatar

Really?

"Prosecutors believe the attack to be politically motivated. DePape had a history of mental health issues and drug abuse; before the attack, he had embraced various far-right conspiracy theories, including QAnon, Pizzagate, and Donald Trump's false claims of a stolen election in 2020. Online, he made conspiratorial, racist, sexist, and antisemitic posts, and pushed COVID-19 vaccine misinformation. His blog also contained delusional thoughts."

Sounds like classic MAGA to me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Paul_Pelosi

I'm not denying that Antifa exists, or that it's a violent extremist organization (it clearly is). It just doesn't have nearly the power or ubiquity that MAGA has on the right (remember, the leader of the MAGA cult is also leading the polls for the Republican nomination), nor does it use the kind of delusional persecution language the right does (it uses some, but again, not anywhere near the magnitude of Trumpists).

Case in point: this very article. Hillary Clinton observes that many die-hard Trump supporters are brainwashed cultists in need of deprogramming; coming out the other end of the right-wing spin machine, that translates to "Hillary Clinton wants to throw 70 million people into re-education camps!" Can you not comprehend the staggering amount of political violence that sentiment tacitly justifies?

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Mike Zillion's avatar

LOL, you quoted the CIA encyclopedia for your evidence

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Dwhy's avatar

LOL, so you have no counter-argument, stands to reason.

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