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Mark Kennedy's avatar

I don't recommend buying her book, 'What Happened,' but look it up in the library and peek in the index for an entry on 'deplorables.' There isn't one. This individual still has no clue what happened, or the role she and the DNC played in facilitating Trump's rise in the first place.

Introspection and self-insight just aren't Mrs. Clinton's strong suits, and she isn't open to remedial input. She's going to live and die within a crafted, fantasy narrative, not having really understood a single thing that ever happened to her. Talk about a person who could benefit from deprogramming! I should feel sorry for her; but she's obviously so contemptuous of others, and such a self-righteous bag of walking fertilizer, that it's hard for me to care.

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Mike Eyre's avatar

When her slogan became "I'm with Her," I remember thinking it should be "She's with Me." That set the entire tenor of the campaign, the idea that the people were expected to serve their anointed leader. Perhaps she misunderstood JFK's request. Her ego is incomparable, and it was her undoing.

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Grape Soda's avatar

The obvious tweak was apparently not so obvious. Because she wasn’t with us! That’s the whole secret to Trump’s appeal. Correct or not, maga folks think he gives a shit about them.

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Mike Zillion's avatar

Most tone deaf slogan in history

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Jose Weto's avatar

Well freaking said bro.

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Outis's avatar

Very well put. I think the case can be made that it was Obama's "usurping of the throne" that put her over the edge. At one time, I had some respect for her. After Bush won reelection in 2004, I predicted she would be the next president.

That Obama basically came out of nowhere and went from winning a senate seat in 2004 (where the main argument against him was his lack of experience) to successfully running for president in 2008 after only serving a few years of his first term had to have rattled that bird's cage.

The Obama campaign correctly leveraged social media in 2008 - and I think that was the first year that social media was a critical factor. Hillary's team didn't think people would take him seriously but it was the youth vote that was particularly engaged - the people with the least perspective and experience themselves.

After the 2008 primary loss, she really seemed to lose her grip.

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Major Depressive 🎢's avatar

She felt absolutely entitled to the 2008 presidency, then again in 2016. She's Rumpelstiltskin, furioiusly stomping her way through the floorboards to Hell and taking as much of the country with her as she can. Stop elevating this woman, consider de-platforming her (as long as we're still in that business).

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Mark Kennedy's avatar

She once had a stellar record, on paper, but it's worth remembering that she began her political life as a Republican before charmer Bill seduced her into becoming a Democrat. Apparently, people who live to tell others what to do will follow the path offering them the best opportunity for doing that, even if what they end up telling them is the opposite of what they said before. Hillary fantasized becoming America's first female president, and in 2016 that goal seemed tantalizingly within reach--in fact, in the eyes of pundits and pollsters, inevitable. I suppose we can hardly blame her for hating the man who barged in and busted up the party, especially considering the kind of unapologetically crude, macho man he is. In Hillary's mental universe, Trump can only ever be the Satanic ogre who knocked history off its proper course. Obama she could kind of understand... but Trump's appeal just isn't RIGHT, an offense against all that's holy.

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Literally Mussolini's avatar

Thank you for reminding us about this.

Hillary was supposed to be coronated in 2008, but then the smooth-talking--and yes, black--Obama came out of nowhere and cancelled the coronation.

I have no doubt that Hillary bears a deep resentment of Obama, which she must painfully hide due to his popularity.

(Then the vulgar Trump came along and knocked her out in 2016.)

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Outis's avatar

I'm in Chicago and, after Obama declared his candidacy in early 2007, I was amazed at how no attention was paid to the fact that he had only been sworn into the Senate almost exactly two years earlier in 2005. When he ran for the Senate, the main argument against him was his lack of experience, which is frankly amazing: no identifiable legal career, no record of any professional appearance in an Illinois court, no academic work (published or otherwise), etc.

The viewpoint that "he's the guy" and that he "had to be elected" spread rapidly. As noted, I think the Obama campaign correctly recognized the power of the emergent social media environment. Even though the web and social media had been around for ten years, the "web 2.0" version was vastly more pervasive.

Obama's policies were pretty unpopular by the end of his second term; numerous polls indicated many people did not like the "direction" the country was headed:

1.) A stagnant economy: the "great recession" ended in June of his first year in office...before any of his policies could have taken effect.

2.) Rapid growth of the federal debt: the federal debt nearly doubled under Obama yet the military got weaker. What the heck did we get for all that debt? Goofy social programs, a disastrous healthcare policy and lots of bank bailouts.

3.) Wacky foreign war involvement: the timeline is interesting:

a.) 2011 - Unilateral and complete withdrawal from Iraq (begun in 2010)

b.) 2011 - Syrian crackdown (March) and rise of ISIS => Millions of refugees in Europe.

c.) 2011 (October) - Libyan civil war and the takedown of Gaddafi

d.) 2012 (June) - Benghazi attack

e.) 2014 - Obama refers to ISIS as a "JV team"

There has not been a stable government in Libya since then the toppling of Gaddafi. Open air slave markets and who knows what else are ongoing.

At the risk of being vulgar, I have a joke about this: Obama screwed Hillary on his way into the White House and he screwed her again on his way out.

Obama was discovered and groomed by Penny Pritzker. He's her creation. Despite the labor record of the Hyatt Hotels and her role in the collapse of Superior Bank (her uncle may have been most responsible), Obama appoints her as Secretary of Commerce. This essentially meaningless "experience" is now used as the reason Biden just appointed her "U.S. Special Representative for Ukraine’s Economic Recovery". This has got to be a set-up for a fleecing on an enormous scale:

"As an accomplished public servant, former Secretary of Commerce, and transformative industry leader—with deep familial ties to Ukraine—Special Representative Pritzker brings decades of experience and expertise to this critical position."

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/09/14/statement-from-president-joe-biden-announcing-the-new-u-s-special-representative-for-ukraines-economic-recovery/

The Pritzkers have done a brilliant job in laundering the family name. The fortune appears to have begun with the grandfather of J.B. (current governor of Illinois) and Penny: Abram Pritzker.

For entertainment, run searches on "pritzker capone", "pritzker giancana", "pritzker sidney korshak" or "pritzker mob fbi".

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David's avatar

Obama isn’t black. He is 1/8 black, 3/8th Arab, and 1/2 white…or in other words he is 4 times as white as he is black. He is not the first black president, but rather the first 1/8th black president. Of course, like everything else out of his mouth, his Ancestry declaration was a lie.

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DC Reade's avatar

it's a few centuries too late for the American historical legacy to shift from American rules to Brazilian rules. History doesn't work that way.

And yes, I get that the rules are irrational.

Obama is an itinerant academic/diplomat's kid who who spent most of his childhood overseas and his teen years in Hawaii at Punahou, an elite private prep school. No more alignment with the experiences of most ordinary African Americans than John Kerry or the heirs of the Bush dynasty have in common with most ordinary American white folks. Nonetheless, Barack Obama still qualifies as "black", by the traditional American definition.

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Jala's avatar

Kinda same with “ first black woman VP” Kamala! NOT.

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Anne Emerson Hall's avatar

Not only does she lack insight herself, she has absolutely no clue how to draw it from others. The multiple scenes in the book where she berates her campaign STAFF for being unable to articulate HER vision and explain WHY she should be president are illuminating.

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Thoughtful Reader's avatar

Insight is her enemy - regonizing the unvarnished truth would undo every one of the lies she lives on.

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David 1260's avatar

Let me say outright what you hinted at: HRC projects her need for deprogramming onto 30% of America.

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