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John's avatar

Matt's article on the Socialists being de-platformed is telling. Personally, I find much more fault with the conventional democrats than any true progressive. I don't listen to the radio or watch television. Don't read newspapers either. It's the internet, personal experience and much observation. So no right wing stuff per se.

Socialism doesn't sit too well with the DNCs big donors: Wall Street, the banks, MIC, big pharma and so on. Above all else, to the Democrat party establishment, the status quo must be protected. The RNC was little different. When a Sanders or Ron Paul or Trump or Gabbard comes along- well, you can see what happens. What I find funny is that those who support Sanders and Trump are not really that far apart- certainly much closer than say Sanders and Biden or Trump and Romney/McCain. Had Sanders run in 2016 or 2020 against Trump, I believe that fully 80% of the population would have been satisfied with the overall result no matter who won.

Instead, largely due to the media (looking at you too, Fox) enough of us are and remain confused. And the dirty tricks are legion- look at what they did to Sanders or Ron Paul, the impeachment hoax and finally the 2020 election. Notice a pattern? Blind man could see it a mile away.

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Spiderbaby's avatar

Totally agree. In some ways it's like the Dems remember that Bush official's pronouncement about how the US elite now create reality while the rest of us are left to just comment and they've run with it.

AOC tweets that the CARES ACT wealth transfer was entirely the fault of the Republicans yet you can find the actual video clip of the vote & the only guy who protested against the oral vote was a Republican. The entire squad voted for it. Even Sanders. Average American gets $1200, while the wealthy get $5 trillion. So what's the point in blaming it solely on the Republicans unless you think that, by saying it, you make it true?

Jimmy Dore has a great clip of 3 women on CNN telling the faithful that Trump's plan to bring home the soldiers will hurt the soldiers. So they're saying that war is safe but peace is dangerous?

Senator Tammy Duckworth said about Trump's troop withdrawal plan, "We all want our soldiers home, but not in body bags."

Again, they're safe in a war zone, but if we withdraw them they'll die?

It makes no sense.

When I was a kid I loved comic books. In Superman they created a comedy version of Superman called Bizarro Superman. He lived on Bizarro World. On Bizarro World they did everything opposite than what humans did on Earth. Bad was good. Good was bad. You get the point.

I swear, for I while now I keep feeling like I wandered into Bizarro World. It's either that or the people in power get way better drugs than I get so I'm probably jealous.

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whatnext's avatar

"One thing that I've learned from the last 4 years is your average card carrying partisan liberal Democrat is every bit as credulously stupid & butt ignorant as the right wing rednecks they love to parody."

It got so obvious in the recent past, to many people. It's hilarious yet troubling reading the D elites diagnose their relatively poor performance in 2020. Without irony they break down the electorate and designate themselves and their friends as "knowledge workers" and the "educated intellectual elite" then wonder why so much of the country hates their guts.

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Spiderbaby's avatar

Yeah, it seems like the Democrats were literally shitting their pants daily over Trump so any alternative, no matter how deranged it appears & how much irrational bullshit they'll have to swallow to make it work, it will still be better than shitting their pants everyday.

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John's avatar

Wouldn't be referring to our own epierce, now would you?

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Spiderbaby's avatar

Not singling anyone out. It seemed a group think kind of thing. Anyway E. has his own issues. I've piled on enough.

I'm all for agreeing to disagree and moving on.

It's aimed at people I know who would corral me early in the morning with, "I guess you saw that man's tweets?"

I rarely did because a. my TV is hooked up to a blue ray & nothing else. b. I didn't really care. He was trolling & you never feed a troll. c. To me Hillary wouldn't have been an improvement.

Later on though I started counting the number of news stories a Trump tweet flurry garnered & that's about the time I realized anti-Trumpers were veering into absurdity.

Then I started wondering about the news stories that weren't getting coverage because everyone was apparently obsessed with Trump's arcane tweets.

Then it really got weird. Since Trump tweeted in the morning I started picturing him sitting on the Oval throne, grumpy because he couldn't push out his morning Big Mac plopper, taking his old man constipation rage out on his phone keyboard & any liberal within tweetshot.

Then I couldn't stop laughing...

But I digress...no, not about E. specifically....

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Lhfry's avatar

Yes. Both Trump and Sanders are demagogues and many of the fools who voted for Trump in 2016 would have voted for Sanders in 2020. Demagogue being someone who offers simple solutions to complex problems.

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Bonnie Beresford's avatar

Sorry, no. Trump voters wave the flag, Sanders supporters are America hating like the other Dems. Huge difference in what policies they would support. No offense meant, but I kinda wonder what rock you've been under.

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Leesburg & Down's avatar

An utterly absurd statement. I'm a moderate Democrat and I love this country. Conservatives don't own patriotism.

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Bonnie Beresford's avatar

Again the absurdity is the statement that "Trump and Sanders are both demagogues" and that their supporters are fools with more in common with each other than with moderate Dems like yourself. With all due respect, the statement lumping them together as fools is really close to the accompanying description of someone who overly simplifies complex issues. The two groups are too large and diverse to categorize flippantly as Lhfry did, and they would indeed be likely to disagree about policy.

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John's avatar

Hey, thanks for your simple assessment!

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