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North Country's avatar

Does Quebec still prosecute English on signs? Also, I saw online the Montreal police driving through neighborhoods with their loudspeakers blaring, ordering people to get inside at a certain hour.

I recommend watching Viva Frei on YouTube to learn what the CBC doesn’t show viewers.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

It is no longer an issue. We are a democracy and democracy is a never ending journey not a destination. Right now ameliorating climate change is number one on the agenda and Greta Thunberg is our most cherished celebrity because we are globalists when the problems are global. Our economy is booming but we will end fossil fuels in 2030. Stop signs are not a consideration as our Premier who leads a nationalist party reminded the zealots recently. Arguing about getting new buckets while the barn is burning seems rather illogical.

Thirty years ago John Ralston Saul said cynicism was democracy's greatest threat. Ninety four years ago the Thomas Theorem told us perception is real in its consequences. Realizing the Injustice Seekers will always find injustice allows us to have peace order and good government.

Irving Layton 1912-2006 was the bane of Toronto and Montreal's intellectual establishment elite. Last week the Sherbrooke Police arrested a man and while he was restrained he needed an ambulance. The story in the Montreal Gazette (founded with the aid of Benjamin Franklin American scientist, philosopher and public intellectual) reported the story as did our local Sherbrooke La Tribune. I trust the news I get from independent journalists. I trust the CBC to tell me of their perceptions but French Language CBC and English Language CBC have different binoculars and like Irving Layton named one of his books it all looks different through improved binoculars.

Sherbrooke is the city Canada wants but all they see is this foreign enclave where they speak a strange language.

Those megaphones the police used are our megaphones and those warning were our warnings those police actually do what we want then to do. We are a democracy.

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Mick's avatar

Democracy is mob rule. We to your south had a republic for a while because of that, mob rule sucks.

Climate change is fake news. Greta Thunberg is a (literally) retarded child.

You should not be proud that restrictive pilice state actuon is the will of the people, you are already lost.

Enjoy your war with Eastasia. I hear you've always been fighting them.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

We have democracy we have peace order and good government. It is better serve in Heaven than rule in Hell.

I've switched to Siberian heirloom seeds because our winters are warmer and our summers are cooler. the caribou are moving south and the deer are moving north. We call this empiricism. When the police are you and you are the police we call that democracy. Our perception is that this is real freedom. We even trust our press to tell us the truth because we are the press and the press is us.

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Mick's avatar

It turns out we have had a definition of democracy for thousands of years, and that ain't it. Police have existed for far less time than democracy has. You are describing something else entirely, almost like willful mass self hypnosis.

Or fascism. Democratic

fascism even.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

Mick, you've been gaslighted. You are living in an other century. We are primates and democracy is older than we are. Apes have many ways of disposing of incompetent leadership. What we have is a technology that allows idiots, incompetents and fiends to subjugate the demos.

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North Country's avatar

I appreciate your answers. I grew up an hour away from Ottawa on the U.S. side, and before 9/11 Canada wasn’t the foreign country it is now. Drive into town and Canada was right there across the river. We haven’t been over to Canada for dinner since 2019.

The CBC is not the CBC I grew up with, more agenda-driven now.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

You must have grown up south of Ogdensburg. I remember when Ogdensburg was rich and Harrowsmith Country was farmland. Looking at them now it is hard to believe that NY21 was the richest place on the planet and Harrowsmith Country was not the Hamptons.

The CBC archives are still there to remind me how savage and ignorant Canada's intelligentia used to be. A tyrant is a tyrant is a tyrant.

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Chris's avatar

A representative republic is a form of democracy, and anyone who claims otherwise is selling you snake oil (and would fail any decent civics class in the country).

Climate change, on the other hand, is not snake oil. It's quite real. Not only that, it's arguably the most serous threat to human civilization in our lifetimes. Greta Thunberg is not a child, not retarded, and is also one of the most inspiring advocates the climate crisis has ever seen.

Democratic control of police forces is what keeps us from descending into a police state.

None of this is Orwellian, and if you think otherwise, you don't understand Orwell.

In other words, ever single thing you posted is wrong. You're the one pissing on people's legs around here.

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William Taylor's avatar

"Almost no one who has fervent ideas has a good epistemic basis for the amount of certainty they hold. There is a decoupling, between the amount of certainty they have, and the amount of certainty they SHOULD have, through right process."

--Daniel Schmactenberger

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

Schmactenberger is the unPeterson. Schmacterberger understands science. Only Peterson would call himself a scientist.

I understand why Peterson is a high priest he is brilliant but Schmactenberger will never be popular he asks all the right questions to answers we will never hear on Jeopardy.

He is one great kabbalist.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

Thanks Chris. I don't like using democracy just as I don't want to argue theology with anyone who won't tell me what their God looks like.

Everyone knows Americans all believe in democracy but nobody know what it looks like. Democracy existed in America when the Civil War ended in 1688 and Parliament assumed power under a symbolic ruler. Athens was a democracy and Russia is a democracy. I don't use liberal democracy where liberal is a noun and is so subject to interpretation.

Mick has learned his Newspeak rather well he is obviously an A student.

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Mick's avatar

Pine Cones, no need to delete your comment I still saw it. When you make a comment on a public forum you ask for others to insert themselves, that is the whole point of the public forum. I am also generally snotty when people are pissing on my leg and telling me it's raining.

The internet has worked this way since at least 1990, welcome, enjoy your stay, and don't go to 4chan.

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North Country's avatar

Well, Mick, I didn’t delete any comments to you, besides being rude, you are also paranoid.

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North Country's avatar

Apparently, Mick, you’re looking for a fight where you won’t get hit.

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Mick's avatar

Not especially.

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