That's the most amazing thing. For years, the DNC and the WaPo and NYT have been "Fuck the GOP!" and finally someone does just that... and they decided that he was even worse?
That's the most amazing thing. For years, the DNC and the WaPo and NYT have been "Fuck the GOP!" and finally someone does just that... and they decided that he was even worse?
As Madjack said below, it's the Uniparty. Clintons, Bushes, Bidens, Obamas, meh. Same difference. Trump wouldn't get with the program and play the game though.
Who would have thought that DJT being a giant intractable asshole -- which he has been throughout his entire lifetime -- would turn out to be his greatest virtue in the end? God works in mysterious ways.
Yes. And what did MT say about a-holes - they - as in DJT make for impossible tribunes and dubious presidents - but - they USED TO MAKE GREAT INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS WHEN THOSE REPORTERS ACTUALLY HAD OWNERS THAT GAVE A SHIT AND EDITORS WITH CAJONES...
And there in lies a bit of the sauce that stirs MAGA....
HE IS A total a-hole - has been ever since Graydon Carter and Kurt Anderson made a hellva good magazine that was 40% Trumpism in the 80's - SPY....
But he tore the scab off our cancerous politics and revealed what was gangrenous....
Politics aside, one of President Trumps more endearing traits was a total failure to understand the optics of what he was doing, which caused other politicians to hyperventilate.
Of course, they had done the same their entire career, but always had the decency to cover their tracks and maintain plausible deniability at all times.
"I think much of the public sees this kabuki dance around the idea of "decency" -- long enabled by MSM -- and has tired of it."
For certain, but the idea of burning it down because they're "tired of it" is cutting off their nutsack because their balls itch. Fucking morons. Anyone every had to rebuild a house after it burns down, let alone an entire society? Burning it down is dumber than a bag of doorknobs.
It's an excellent point, but you do understand this reaction is exactly what many people hoped for when they voted for President Trump?
For an entirely different segment of Trump supporters, the "it could be worse" argument is not a message that will reach them.
It's an understandably exasperated statement, but people who feel cheated by a system are not looking for understanding from those who disagree so much as send a message of e pluribus unum, which can be interpreted both as a statement of unity as well as a threat.
My conclusion is that political hatred is symmetrical.
If you want someone to defend President Trump I'm not the guy. If by "I don't understand" you mean like myself you learned in 2016 there was a segment of the population you did not understand than I may or may not have something to add.
If by "not understand" you mean a little less than half the electorate is made up of fucking stupid deplorable's, you have those who won who would agree with you.
I agree that the Democrats who put up Hillary while cutting off any other possibility (save for that pesky Bernie, how did that happen?) were the dumb fucks. What the fuck was this stupid fucking party thinking.
So true. now I start to comment and see Beetle has already said it best...'consistent assholism''...
There will never be another - nor has there ever been - a bigger one - the winningist...biggest...bestest...asshole who was ever Prez.
DJT's utter immunity to anything remotely resembling humility or self-reflection is absolutely pathological....
But massively entertainingly funny when one is far enough from the train wreck....and quite possibly not only instructive politically - but may I dare say it - useful?
Nassim Taleb made this same observation during the Republican primaries when he predited Donald Trump would win.
I'm paraphrasing and did not watch the debates, but Taleb pointed out that the other Republicans criticized Trump for failing at business.
It did not dawn on them that Trump had proudly bragged about his failures in business for years as a selling point because it showed his scars to the public. That unlike the other lifetime politicians and business men on the stage, he did not rely on political graft to protect him from failure.
We all prefer the self made man. We don't mind those who inherit as long as they are willing to lose like the rest of us when things go wrong. We despise those who run to government for protection when they lose, or who play a rigged game where they always win.
I think it was his lack of decorum that kept him out of their game. No virtue signalling privileges there. Starting wars? No problem. Racist shit? Total deal breaker.
The Bushes inherited their wealth. I hope you're not implying that the Clintons didn't grift for theirs?
Have you ever heard Joe Biden tell a Black man "You ain't black!" on a live broadcast?
The fact that Biden was able to get away with this shit and win office during the Year of the Woke is astonishing, frankly -- even without delving into his long, long history of similar remarks.
When you look at the reaction Sen. Scott got to his speech, maybe not so astonishing. All these liberal empaths going on-line to hurl racial slurs at the elected U.S. Senator from South Carolina was sort of stunning. Are these people even listening to themselves? I began reading the comments section to K. Parker's column on the speech in WaPo and had to stop; these people are so ignorant --- yes, yes, yes, Sen. Scott IS a racist. I don't even know how to process it.
Oh yeah. The DC game is all about maintaining politesse while you do illegal, immoral shit behind the curtain with a nudge and a wink and maybe a little favor in the direction of your fellow "operators."
Exactly. As long as it appears polite on the surface, that's all that matters. It's a middle class and especially an upper middle class performance art.
Trump was as republican as Ronnie's machine gun. I do agree with the Uniparty assessment of the political parties, but besides his departure from normal Republican warmongering which I applaud, where did Trump diverge from Republican norms? Yuge taxcuts for the welathy, the "big beautiful wall", etc. He sold himself as some populist radical but his actions contradicted such false rhetoric.
Not in 8th grade, no. I am ONE of those kids who faithfully practiced "duck and cover" drills in Grade School. The Russians, of course, existed only to BOMB school children every school day @ 9:30 a.m. - (Saturdays and Sundays off)
This started when I was in Grade 1. By Grade 3, even I was starting to wonder about the wisdom of my protectors. The Russians are Hell-Bent to bomb ME, and your clever solution to that fact is that my entire class must roll on the floor and conceal ourselves under *WOODEN desks ??
Thus was I suspicious of Govt. "Ideas" from a very early age. My mother (Navy Court Stenographer), my father, and my grandfather were *all Navy veterans of WWII, and they shared with me stories about the oxymorons of "Military Intelligence" being enacted *long before I was even born !
Atma: I had those same feelings about the Catholic nuns and priests at my school very early on...(Nun: "Sing or you'll go to hell...NO NOT THOSE WORDS, now you're going to hell for sure!" Me: So I WAS better off not singing...") but had to wait for Joey Heller and Catch-22 to get it about the military.
YES ! My sisters and I were "treated to" Dominican Nuns as teachers from fourth to eighth grades ! I know what you mean. However none of us have looked back at *any church since ! I was in the Navy from 67 to 71. Heller was a GAWDSEND wasn't he ?
And note, that no matter how often they *try, they cannot make of *movie of "Catch 22" that makes the *slightest bit of sense even to viewers who *read the book. The book literally takes place *mostly in the brain of the protagonist, Yossarian. Thoughts cannot be filmed. I place "Catch 22" on a long list of the greatest works ever written. AND to *truly understand the book, it is *best if the reader *has been in the military to fully comprehend the *mindless inanity that Yossarian is always *THINKING about !
And while I loved Alan Arkin in The In-laws (serpentine Shelley, serpentine!) I agree Catch-22 the movie was but an attempt. A Might Casey At the Bat swing and miss. The most true to the book scene was the brothel, perhaps.
That's the most amazing thing. For years, the DNC and the WaPo and NYT have been "Fuck the GOP!" and finally someone does just that... and they decided that he was even worse?
Maybe they secretly liked the GOP they way it was? Like the girl in 8th grade who pretends to scorn you but then covertly passes you love notes?
As Madjack said below, it's the Uniparty. Clintons, Bushes, Bidens, Obamas, meh. Same difference. Trump wouldn't get with the program and play the game though.
Who would have thought that DJT being a giant intractable asshole -- which he has been throughout his entire lifetime -- would turn out to be his greatest virtue in the end? God works in mysterious ways.
If god works through Donald Trump...well, there's yet another reason I'm an atheist.
Maybe people have been getting it wrong for a long time and God is actually Mammon in a clever Jehovah (or the deity of your choice) disguise.
Yes. And what did MT say about a-holes - they - as in DJT make for impossible tribunes and dubious presidents - but - they USED TO MAKE GREAT INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS WHEN THOSE REPORTERS ACTUALLY HAD OWNERS THAT GAVE A SHIT AND EDITORS WITH CAJONES...
And there in lies a bit of the sauce that stirs MAGA....
HE IS A total a-hole - has been ever since Graydon Carter and Kurt Anderson made a hellva good magazine that was 40% Trumpism in the 80's - SPY....
But he tore the scab off our cancerous politics and revealed what was gangrenous....
Politics aside, one of President Trumps more endearing traits was a total failure to understand the optics of what he was doing, which caused other politicians to hyperventilate.
Of course, they had done the same their entire career, but always had the decency to cover their tracks and maintain plausible deniability at all times.
You nailed it. There's a weird kind of integrity in his consistent assholism.
"always had the decency to cover their tracks and maintain plausible deniability at all times"
I think much of the public sees this kabuki dance around the idea of "decency" -- long enabled by MSM -- and has tired of it.
"I think much of the public sees this kabuki dance around the idea of "decency" -- long enabled by MSM -- and has tired of it."
For certain, but the idea of burning it down because they're "tired of it" is cutting off their nutsack because their balls itch. Fucking morons. Anyone every had to rebuild a house after it burns down, let alone an entire society? Burning it down is dumber than a bag of doorknobs.
It's an excellent point, but you do understand this reaction is exactly what many people hoped for when they voted for President Trump?
For an entirely different segment of Trump supporters, the "it could be worse" argument is not a message that will reach them.
It's an understandably exasperated statement, but people who feel cheated by a system are not looking for understanding from those who disagree so much as send a message of e pluribus unum, which can be interpreted both as a statement of unity as well as a threat.
So, we agree they're dumb fucks...(?)
My conclusion is that political hatred is symmetrical.
If you want someone to defend President Trump I'm not the guy. If by "I don't understand" you mean like myself you learned in 2016 there was a segment of the population you did not understand than I may or may not have something to add.
If by "not understand" you mean a little less than half the electorate is made up of fucking stupid deplorable's, you have those who won who would agree with you.
I agree that the Democrats who put up Hillary while cutting off any other possibility (save for that pesky Bernie, how did that happen?) were the dumb fucks. What the fuck was this stupid fucking party thinking.
So true. now I start to comment and see Beetle has already said it best...'consistent assholism''...
There will never be another - nor has there ever been - a bigger one - the winningist...biggest...bestest...asshole who was ever Prez.
DJT's utter immunity to anything remotely resembling humility or self-reflection is absolutely pathological....
But massively entertainingly funny when one is far enough from the train wreck....and quite possibly not only instructive politically - but may I dare say it - useful?
When Rome burned on July of 64, those who were horrified made up a rumor that Nero played his fiddle while it was happening.
What we don't know is how many Roman's with nothing to lose heard that story and smiled approvingly.
We do know that many of them had fond memories of the Gracchi Brothers from a couple hundred years before.
I country writes off large segments of its own population at their peril.
I don't know if that's it.
I think they never wanted him to be a part of their game, that's why as soon as he won, she took her ball and went home (for the night).
For as much as they might think inheriting wealth may be less than an honorable way to get rich, they KNOW that grifting for wealth is even worse.
If you asked me would I rather be rich because of my family's hard work, or connections/bribes I made in government work... I know what I would say.
Nassim Taleb made this same observation during the Republican primaries when he predited Donald Trump would win.
I'm paraphrasing and did not watch the debates, but Taleb pointed out that the other Republicans criticized Trump for failing at business.
It did not dawn on them that Trump had proudly bragged about his failures in business for years as a selling point because it showed his scars to the public. That unlike the other lifetime politicians and business men on the stage, he did not rely on political graft to protect him from failure.
We all prefer the self made man. We don't mind those who inherit as long as they are willing to lose like the rest of us when things go wrong. We despise those who run to government for protection when they lose, or who play a rigged game where they always win.
Nicholas! Sage...
I think it was his lack of decorum that kept him out of their game. No virtue signalling privileges there. Starting wars? No problem. Racist shit? Total deal breaker.
The Bushes inherited their wealth. I hope you're not implying that the Clintons didn't grift for theirs?
Racist shit? Have you ever heard Joe Biden describe Barack Obama?
Have you ever heard Joe Biden tell a Black man "You ain't black!" on a live broadcast?
The fact that Biden was able to get away with this shit and win office during the Year of the Woke is astonishing, frankly -- even without delving into his long, long history of similar remarks.
Oh, I forgot. He "has a stutter." I'm ableist.
When you look at the reaction Sen. Scott got to his speech, maybe not so astonishing. All these liberal empaths going on-line to hurl racial slurs at the elected U.S. Senator from South Carolina was sort of stunning. Are these people even listening to themselves? I began reading the comments section to K. Parker's column on the speech in WaPo and had to stop; these people are so ignorant --- yes, yes, yes, Sen. Scott IS a racist. I don't even know how to process it.
"Are these people even listening to themselves?"
...no?
Love, love, love affluent white people hectoring people of color about how they are failing to conform with the tenets of critical race theory.
(that was sarcasm, I don't actually love it, but the utter lack of self-awareness is very funny)
"Without white progressives like me to supervise them, ethnic minorities are helpless and easily exploited."
https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/may-2021/stop-this-fascist-gaslighting/
Have you heard that Kamala Harris is the direct descendant of one of the biggest slaveholding plantation families in Jamaica? Of course not....
You bet. And the Clintons were probably even worse. Superpredators brought to heel, Obama should be bringing Bill his coffee, etc, etc.
Oh yeah. The DC game is all about maintaining politesse while you do illegal, immoral shit behind the curtain with a nudge and a wink and maybe a little favor in the direction of your fellow "operators."
Exactly. As long as it appears polite on the surface, that's all that matters. It's a middle class and especially an upper middle class performance art.
Grisha: which is precisely why DJT pissed them off so badly.
I am implying they all grifted for theirs, including Prescott.
I had hoped you were. But assumptions are dngerous in this day and age.
Kind of like the Sacklers and Oxycontin...Daddy Sackler sold barbs and amphs to housewives as elixirs. Literally a snake oil salesman.
Nuts don't fall far from the daddy tree...
Trump was as republican as Ronnie's machine gun. I do agree with the Uniparty assessment of the political parties, but besides his departure from normal Republican warmongering which I applaud, where did Trump diverge from Republican norms? Yuge taxcuts for the welathy, the "big beautiful wall", etc. He sold himself as some populist radical but his actions contradicted such false rhetoric.
For some reason I think it was the line about paying the Clintons to be at his wedding that really cemented the deal.
Not sure HRC ever recovered.
@ grisha koshmarov
You met that girl too ?
She REALLY gets around !
I just hope she didn't give you herpes
@ grisha koshmarov
Not in 8th grade, no. I am ONE of those kids who faithfully practiced "duck and cover" drills in Grade School. The Russians, of course, existed only to BOMB school children every school day @ 9:30 a.m. - (Saturdays and Sundays off)
This started when I was in Grade 1. By Grade 3, even I was starting to wonder about the wisdom of my protectors. The Russians are Hell-Bent to bomb ME, and your clever solution to that fact is that my entire class must roll on the floor and conceal ourselves under *WOODEN desks ??
Thus was I suspicious of Govt. "Ideas" from a very early age. My mother (Navy Court Stenographer), my father, and my grandfather were *all Navy veterans of WWII, and they shared with me stories about the oxymorons of "Military Intelligence" being enacted *long before I was even born !
What *was that - "tradition" ?
Atma: I had those same feelings about the Catholic nuns and priests at my school very early on...(Nun: "Sing or you'll go to hell...NO NOT THOSE WORDS, now you're going to hell for sure!" Me: So I WAS better off not singing...") but had to wait for Joey Heller and Catch-22 to get it about the military.
@ BillPD
YES ! My sisters and I were "treated to" Dominican Nuns as teachers from fourth to eighth grades ! I know what you mean. However none of us have looked back at *any church since ! I was in the Navy from 67 to 71. Heller was a GAWDSEND wasn't he ?
And note, that no matter how often they *try, they cannot make of *movie of "Catch 22" that makes the *slightest bit of sense even to viewers who *read the book. The book literally takes place *mostly in the brain of the protagonist, Yossarian. Thoughts cannot be filmed. I place "Catch 22" on a long list of the greatest works ever written. AND to *truly understand the book, it is *best if the reader *has been in the military to fully comprehend the *mindless inanity that Yossarian is always *THINKING about !
Unfortunately spot on, Atma
And while I loved Alan Arkin in The In-laws (serpentine Shelley, serpentine!) I agree Catch-22 the movie was but an attempt. A Might Casey At the Bat swing and miss. The most true to the book scene was the brothel, perhaps.