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Koshmarov's avatar

Who would have thought that DJT being a giant intractable asshole -- which he has been throughout his entire lifetime -- would turn out to be his greatest virtue in the end? God works in mysterious ways.

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druzus's avatar

If god works through Donald Trump...well, there's yet another reason I'm an atheist.

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Koshmarov's avatar

Maybe people have been getting it wrong for a long time and God is actually Mammon in a clever Jehovah (or the deity of your choice) disguise.

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rick laney's avatar

Yes. And what did MT say about a-holes - they - as in DJT make for impossible tribunes and dubious presidents - but - they USED TO MAKE GREAT INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS WHEN THOSE REPORTERS ACTUALLY HAD OWNERS THAT GAVE A SHIT AND EDITORS WITH CAJONES...

And there in lies a bit of the sauce that stirs MAGA....

HE IS A total a-hole - has been ever since Graydon Carter and Kurt Anderson made a hellva good magazine that was 40% Trumpism in the 80's - SPY....

But he tore the scab off our cancerous politics and revealed what was gangrenous....

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Diogenes's avatar

Politics aside, one of President Trumps more endearing traits was a total failure to understand the optics of what he was doing, which caused other politicians to hyperventilate.

Of course, they had done the same their entire career, but always had the decency to cover their tracks and maintain plausible deniability at all times.

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Koshmarov's avatar

You nailed it. There's a weird kind of integrity in his consistent assholism.

"always had the decency to cover their tracks and maintain plausible deniability at all times"

I think much of the public sees this kabuki dance around the idea of "decency" -- long enabled by MSM -- and has tired of it.

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Kurt's avatar

"I think much of the public sees this kabuki dance around the idea of "decency" -- long enabled by MSM -- and has tired of it."

For certain, but the idea of burning it down because they're "tired of it" is cutting off their nutsack because their balls itch. Fucking morons. Anyone every had to rebuild a house after it burns down, let alone an entire society? Burning it down is dumber than a bag of doorknobs.

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Diogenes's avatar

It's an excellent point, but you do understand this reaction is exactly what many people hoped for when they voted for President Trump?

For an entirely different segment of Trump supporters, the "it could be worse" argument is not a message that will reach them.

It's an understandably exasperated statement, but people who feel cheated by a system are not looking for understanding from those who disagree so much as send a message of e pluribus unum, which can be interpreted both as a statement of unity as well as a threat.

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Kurt's avatar

So, we agree they're dumb fucks...(?)

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Diogenes's avatar

My conclusion is that political hatred is symmetrical.

If you want someone to defend President Trump I'm not the guy. If by "I don't understand" you mean like myself you learned in 2016 there was a segment of the population you did not understand than I may or may not have something to add.

If by "not understand" you mean a little less than half the electorate is made up of fucking stupid deplorable's, you have those who won who would agree with you.

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Kurt's avatar

Yeah, kind of the third one.

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rtj's avatar

I agree that the Democrats who put up Hillary while cutting off any other possibility (save for that pesky Bernie, how did that happen?) were the dumb fucks. What the fuck was this stupid fucking party thinking.

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rick laney's avatar

So true. now I start to comment and see Beetle has already said it best...'consistent assholism''...

There will never be another - nor has there ever been - a bigger one - the winningist...biggest...bestest...asshole who was ever Prez.

DJT's utter immunity to anything remotely resembling humility or self-reflection is absolutely pathological....

But massively entertainingly funny when one is far enough from the train wreck....and quite possibly not only instructive politically - but may I dare say it - useful?

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Diogenes's avatar

When Rome burned on July of 64, those who were horrified made up a rumor that Nero played his fiddle while it was happening.

What we don't know is how many Roman's with nothing to lose heard that story and smiled approvingly.

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Diogenes's avatar

We do know that many of them had fond memories of the Gracchi Brothers from a couple hundred years before.

I country writes off large segments of its own population at their peril.

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