"Criticizing Israel" is a tad glib, don't you think? Stoking public disorder, disrupting classrooms and campus life, taking over campus buildings, spreading propaganda, intimidating Jewish students or others who may disagree including by wearing masks, which are sinister; blocking bridges and arteries -- in an ambulance? tough luck- anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, anti you name it. In other words, guest revolutionaries. If you're a guest and throw food at the wall, get out.
Well here's the thing: I think it's glib. Outside agitators indoctrinating students, teaching them march slogans and how to march in a line against police, in YOUR country, the one you put in caps, isn't mere "protest." It's staging a revolution. I don't care what the reason is, that level of sedition and indoctrination, a lot of it from the outside, should not be allowed on U S. campuses. Putches aren't "speech."
I grew up in the 60’s, & I heard that phrase a lot. The fact is, many of the anti-Israel protests were started or attended by Jewish people. This is neither a “revolution,” nor a “putch.”
Good grief.
Many Americans are sickened by the scenes that have come out of Gaza since October 7, as we’ve seen Gaza bombed into a hellscape resembling Dresden. We’ve witnessed repeated bombings of desperate people huddling in refugee camps, as well as the deliberate, repeated bombing of aid workers. We are tired of seeing our tax dollars spent on the bombing of civilians.
This does not mean that we support Hamas — only that we support civilians who should not be targeted by either side. Trump can deport all the “outside agitators” he wants, but that won’t change public opinion on this slaughter. And no — before you make the charge — I do NOT now, nor have I ever hated Jews.
Israel is not special, no matter how much lobbying AIPAC does.
Add some "ohs" and "ums" and your response will be completely sophomoric. And then stop trolling me. You keep telling me what is and isn't. I have absolutely no interest in your opinion of my opinion. Mine stands.
But you don't mention the atrocities of October 7 -- in Israel, not that the victims there matter. Raping, even raping an upside down, beheaded corpse, legs spread apart in the back of a pick- up truck. Israelis found her head, after they invaded. Throwing a live grenade in the lap of a father sitting between his two sons, A frenzied phone call home from one of the monsters bragging to his parents how many "Jews" he had killed. Do go live among them, with flowers in your hair. Greeted as heroes by mobs on their return home. Hamas's pledge to to it all again. And again. So don't hide behind this crap that you don't support Hamas. There was a tunnel every under every freaking house.
Where's your proof that any of this happened? As a university student who protested I am a witness that your statements are utterly false. When I read posts like yours I wonder about the people who write them. You weren't there. Why do you choose to believe any one story over any other story? I believe it's because you choose to believe whatever backs up your distorted, cruel, sadistic Zionist narrative. That says more about your personality and character than it does anything else.
what none understands is this is not about free speech. i posted the deportation laws here twice. if you are not a citizen you can be deported for supporting or being part of a group that promotes a terrorist group/terrorism.
The government provided no evidence that Mahmoud Khalil supported Hamas, as opposed to supporting Palestinians' rights, so unless they or someone else does so, your comment does not justify the government's actions.
Protesting and speaking on behalf of the Palestinians is the same as speaking on behalf of Native Americans. Palestinians are in the same situation - a sadistic, greedy, thuggish, well-armed Israel is committing genocide against them. Perhaps to be truly American is to be an avid supporter of genocide, no matter where it happens - bravo for your "Americanism." Just as there were abolitionists and Underground Railroad participants, there are people with a moral center who are protesting on behalf of Palestinians. You can call that supporting terrorism, but I think history will call it something else and will call you something else as well.
Literal definitions. A thing. It’s not semantics. And it’s not an actual genocide. I’m sure you use the term for the much larger numbers of deaths that happened in Syria and Yemen when it was Arab on Arab “genocide”. Look, you can find the actions of the IDF deplorable and perhaps evil. That’s your opinion. The definition of genocide isn’t an opinion.
Genocide isn't about numbers or % of killed. It is about targeted mass destruction of a specific group of people.
That's what starving and bombing children and women and men indiscriminately is when it is targeted at a specific population. In this case, Palestinians in Gaza.
Not hard to understand, but hard to rationalize unless you're a Jewish supremacist.
Please, good BookWench, you know it's much worse than protesting. All of the video was evidence enough of psychological terrorism against Jews in the United States after the 10/7 attacks.
All what video? Video of protests? Blocking egress or ingress, or getting physical with passersby or spectators is already illegal. Did Khalil engage in physical assaults on Jewish students? I have not seen any video showing this.
I have found video all over the Internet of the IDF sniping at Palestinian women & children, Israeli settlers (with their entire families) gleefully blocking aid shipments to Gaza, Israeli officials describing their intent to block humanitarian aid to Gaza, and the IDF bombing refugee camps and aid workers. Is any of this "evidence . . . of psychological terrorism" against Palestinians?
We do not have a right to go through life never feeling threatened. I might feel threatened walking past a group of New Black Panthers, as they shriek anti-white slogans, but they still have a right to do so.
Why is there a constant effort to paint Jewish people as perpetual victims?
The fact that anyone opposing Israel's actions in Gaza is to be regarded as uniquely evil, and thus deserving of harsher penalties, is absurd. This is America! We all -- including resident aliens -- have the right to criticize our own government, so we should certainly have the right to criticize one tiny foreign country on the other side of the world.
I agree with Walter that we should default to free speech absolutism, and also with the observation that the equivalent right-coded protest and disruption would not be tolerated by the academics and activists currently pretending to care about free expression. A lib friend sent me a clip of Secretary Mayor Pete wondering where the libertarians are, and it was the most insincere crap I've seen in a while since I know he's down with the lefty orthodoxy on "misinformation." Similarly the Ivy presidents' testimony to Congress in late 23 on free speech and tolerating viewpoint diversity was great, but they obviously didn't believe it because immediately prior they were policing "harmful" views and "microaggressions."
SCOTUS has made it clear that hate speech = free speech. You can say anything in the US, as long as you are not standing with a mob in front of someone's house inciting violence (from a distance even that's ok). People can lose their jobs (or job prospects in the case of students) but the federal government cannot constitutionally abridge your right to hate speech.
People being afraid is not a cause to do away with free speech.
Read what the Biden administration said about the guy last April. They didn't see him as a peaceful protestor. He wasn't. Free speech absolutism? I'm pretty close to it. Violation of the law is something else.
We don't revoke green cards for "psychological terrorism" in this country either. That is the exact same argument used to smear people as transphobic, etc, that you are making their "existence unsafe" by having opinions, saying mean words, and protesting.
Federal law since 1952 gives the Secretary of State the right to deport any foreign national who voices support for a terrorist organization. We do revoke green cards for psychological terrorism if it involves public speech in support of a terrorist organization. That's been law for seventy three years, and it's sensible law. You probably know Justice Robert Jackson's observation about civil liberties absolutism: “The Constitution is not a suicide pact.”
Libertarians are divorced from reality. For the third time, this is federal law, and I would be shocked to learn it has never been challenged in court. It's an unfortunate fact that effective government will always involve at least a little thuggishness. You have the right to free speech, but if you're Douglas MacArthur showing veiled but undeniable contempt for the orders of the President, don't be surprised if your military career ends abruptly.
Hell, can we deport Elon Musk— who nobody voted for— instead? And will this be the moment that Matt finally finds his backbone and criticizes this nightmarish administration that he’s been cheerleading?
The stupid, partisan and cruel way that it's done. Major downsizing can be achieved through attrition, as happened during the Clinton administration, when 377, 000 federal jobs were eliminated. Musk's targets are mainly agencies and programs disliked by conservatives — that's his main criteria. But putting all of that aside, there’s all of the glaring conflicts of interest! What are the odds Elon is going to target his $20 billion in federal programs whose ultimate aim is to colonize Mars? Wouldn't that be the first thing to go in any sane downsizing? Elon and Trump want to re-create a Russian-style model of oligarchs / Czar, where the rich will have to grovel for their fiefdoms before kingmaker Trump, and the average citizen will get the crumbs.
I have news for you - we’ve been living in an oligarchy for years. Nothing to do with Musk or Trump. Sounds like you might want to read up some of the grift the left has been getting away with too.
Attrition?? During the Obama years and the Biden years the federal gov't was the largest employer. Look up the Public vs Private employment figures. True attrition of public sector jobs won't happen in your or your children's lifetime, even if our gov't doesn't hire one more individual. Sorry, life is hard, life is not fair, people get fired, lose their jobs, whether private sector or public sector. Not being cruel but it's the facts of life would you prefer our country goes bankrupt or inflation gets so bad we have a depression or worse. We as Americans must come together to fight to save our country, the time is now!
I’m sorry you have such a poisoned view of things. Your seething hatred of all things Trump can be seen just below the surface. Attrition certainly can be effective, but the gross theft of our resources requires more action, I’m afraid. I would have thought that the outrageous theft of billions would have struck a nerve, like it did with me. Not sure what you mean by “liked by conservatives” Anyway, best regards.
I’m sorry you’re so gullible. Once Musk takes a knife to his contracts to colonize Mars I’ll believe he’s serious. The economy is starting to collapse because of Musk and Trump’s boneheaded approach. Here’s the real scoop, in case you’re interested and can handle it:
Curb stomping dei while ignoring the pentagon looks like pandering to the same mouth breathers that thought immigrants stealing their jobs was a way to keep sucking off their boss. Forty years of trickle down would have been just the thing if my boss wasn’t such a cheap labor addict.
They have not been "ignoring the Pentagon," they just haven't gotten to it yet. Hegseth is on board for it, and has posted statements supportive of DOGE.
That’s unmitigated BS. Attrition—mainly from retirements, resignations, and other departures—typically ranges from 5% to 7% per year. If we assume a 6% attrition rate, that means roughly 132,000 federal jobs could be vacated annually without layoffs. Clinton managed almost 400k. This is all a stupid and cruel theater. Btw just watch, Trump and Musk will then give these concessions out to Wall Street financiers and try to sell these services back to America people and we’ll all be poorer. The day that Musk cuts into his $20 billion in federal contracts to populate Mars I’ll believe he’s serious.
The fact that anyone in this chat is defending the “honor” of Israel over free speech is beyond ominous. I am sympathetic to brainwashed boomers drinking msm cool aid. But here?
You might be a Jew if think you disrupting an elite Ivy League classroom is horrifying and calls for shutting down our Bill of Rights, but mass murdering women and children in a genocide to steal their land is no big deal. You are the Nazis now Jew, mass murdering civilians for lebensraum, does it feel good Jew?
Masks are "sinister" now, why just 2 years ago you woke/neo-con fusionists insisted we wear them at pain of losing our jobs.
Since I'm Catholic I wouldn't know. But look at what my comment brought out of the woodwork. Addressing someone as "Jew." How dare you? I have objected to all anti-white rhetoric, as I would any racist speech. I object particularly to the treatment of Jewish people and the concomitant rise of anti-Semitism in Europe, a la the 1930s. Enjoy yourselves tonight. If this ugliness keeps up I'll cancel my own goddamn subscription.
Do you have even one one-thousandth of this kind of a problem with the treatment of Palestinians by Israel as you are outraged at this person using the word "Jew" or are you also a Jewish supremacist?
2024 called. They want their people back who give any fucks about tired accusations of “racism.” Of course no one ever seems to call Jews “racist” after they have murdered tens of thousands of women and children to steal the land in Gaza. Why do you suppose that is?
What's bad is that at least a third of the American Jewish community does not support Israel's actions (in contrast to almost all our politicians). The ethnic cleansing and TikToked murder by Israelis will redound to American Jews even if they strongly disagree with the violence.
I cannot find the poll I was thinking of, this article claims "In a 2022 poll of American Jews, when Zionism was defined as "the belief in privileging Jewish rights over non-Jewish rights in Israel," 69 percent of American Jews said they were probably or definitely not Zionist. So 2/3s?
Jews do more damage to my country every damn day than a Muzzie could even dream of by advocating for wars that only benefit your tribe, by controlling my government through AIPAC, by controlling the media and academia to indoctrinate children into woke and globalism, by controlling the rigged usury based financial system, by being the landlords that make Americans homeless.
So you leave Jew subhuman, or next time we will actually turn you into a bar of soap.
Protest is hardly anti American. Protesting genocide is an act of bravery. A green card holder is hardly a guest. They are legally able to live in America and participate in our society.
It was students who protested the war in Vietnam. I remember. They took over buildings at colleges, they took to the streets , they opened Americas eyes.. the Ukraine war is bad and the war on Gaza is genocidal.
If any of those individual acts are crimes they can be charged with those crimes without having any need to restrict speech or specify anything about anti-Semitism. This is classic Jewish supremacist double standards.
(II) a consular officer, the Attorney General, or the Secretary of Homeland Security knows, or has reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry in any terrorist activity (as defined in clause (iv));
(III) has, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily harm, incited terrorist activity;
(IV) is a representative (as defined in clause (v)) of—
(aa) a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or
(bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity;
(V) is a member of a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi);
Of course the fucking state of Israel isn’t a terror state for mass murdering woman and children to steal land is it you Jew/neo-con piece of shit masquerading as a human being.
Teutonic elites are willing to guide us into a better world. All concerned should review spectacular failures created by globalists. Ghandi said India would prefer to decide on its future without guidance. Today best intentions often fail as unintended consequences unfold. I can't recall anything the United Nations did well. The world run by these idiots is a nightmare.
Watching this live, hilarious to watch these two squirm and hem and haw. They’re calling the deportation of the Columbia protestor a ‘political mistake’ as if the Trump carefully considered the options and erred slightly on the side censorship. For F’s sake the hand-writing’s been on the wall for years with Trump! He wanted to shoot peaceful protestors in his first administration. Taibbi’s beat is first amendment and he’s surprised and disappointed! He’s shaping up to be the most gullible reporter in America. Remember how he was heralding a new era of free speech under Musks’s ownership of Twitter? Stick to football Matt.
"He [Trump] wanted to shoot peaceful protestors . . . " thoroughly discredits anything you have to say about anyone or anything. As JD Vance would say "Do you hear yourself?"
It's totally cucked. They don't even touch on the fact that Trump is doing this because of Jewish billionaire donors. As if this is a principled and well-considered stance that might just be "politically unwise" or something. It's hilarious.
That would mean Israeli green card holders who support starving children would need to leave.
Oh wait you mean only “officially state designated” terrorist groups. I forgot those can’t include Jewish Israelis due to Jewish political influence in the U.S.
Jews can rape babies to death in the concentration camp of Gaza but that isn’t terrorism it’s Jewish pride in defending Israel, right?
Miriam Adelson donated 6% of his campaign funds. Opensecrets.org notes that Kamala received twice as much from the richest donors, many of whom are Jewish (and the Jewish vote overwhelmingly went to her). Trump's a lame duck so he is not beholden to his donors politically. His ties with Israel go much deeper.
Trump's world was NYC, now Florida; his worldview, his friends and family, include many Jews. (He's not 'special'. Kamala's husband is supposedly one of the most influential Jews in America. Many politicians' family have married into the Tribe, including Chelsea Clinton and Hunter and Ashley Biden; some have converted to Judaism). Same for Hollywood and RFK Jr. Of course (almost?) ALL of our DC politicians rely on AIPAC and favor Israel over the US (probably for the free health care? Or maybe because of bribes and blackmail?) This is a globalist class phenomenon; the Elites have always married for advantage.
"So you're saying that you have a media machine that purposefully lies to its people to maintain a political fiction and get themselves power, and that that is the hallmark of an authoritarian system not a democratic system? Well, if we were ever to get something like that in the United States we would be horrified...furious...to know there was an entire media organization designed to bend reality, to manipulate facts to maintain power...It would never happen in the United States.” Jon Stewart
Jon Stewart, in talking about Romania, proves he is either disingenuously dishonest or completely clueless.
The only other alternative is that he just woke up from a decade long napsy.
While the US burns here at home from the sheer chaos that Trump and Musk have unleashed, Matt and Walter will be talking about Romania and Germany. I used to love these guys. Now, not so much......
"While the US burns here at home from the sheer chaos that Trump and Musk have unleashed..."
You must be referring to the repeated fires set at Tesla dealerships. Or maybe the destruction of college and university campuses by the neo-jihad of the Palestinian queens?
The "burning"here at home is the left/democrats stoking fear in its cult members. Violence,whether it is at Tesla Stores or at "protests", by masked cretins,is, misguided at best. Most Americans see through the "Fear Porn" . While I would hope and appreciate Matt and Walter calling these behaviors out, I much rather hear discussions of the rapid collapse of free speech(actual FREEDOM) and how that collapse and subsequent censoring of speech, of elections, can/is coming to America.
Please point out Matt's recent article about the gutting of the CFPB and the new debanking bill. Oh right, that's another significant story he's completely ignored.
The choice in this Presidential election was between a want to be totalitarian LIE (Harris) and a N.Y. real estate hustler. We the People, for good reason, chose the real estate hustler. There is the Republic, the Constitution and the free citizen. Everything else is psyop and opinion. Depart the psyop and live.
(Matt has more journalism in his little finger than the MSM has in its entire body.)
It's a bit astonishing how thoroughly they've ignored Trump's free-speech threats regarding Israel while praising Vance and others for supposedly chastising Europe's recent record on civil liberties. We'll see if the name "Mahmoud Khalil" comes up once in their episode.
I'm definitely letting my subscription lapse. When you have Lee Fang and others covering these issues SO much better, my money is better spent elsewhere.
Glenn is a brilliant journalist. I have followed him since the Salon days during GWB - that’s over 20 years But I think something broke in his heart when his husband died. His derangement over Israel is legendary. After Oct 7 I wasn’t up for his IDS anymore. If he also raged against despotic slaver nations like Qatar for example equally I would still follow him. I don’t need to agree with my sources of information but his seething is too much to take.
I also wish he had stuck to writing instead of going all in as anchor-man. He’s so talented but he doesn’t have the charisma or gravitas to pull off a daily video gig. 🤷♂️ I will always be grateful for his true patriotic service in helping Snowden and do check in on his work still on occasion if infrequently.
I agree. I know these governments aren't saints. But when I see a clear seething hatred toward Israel, at best, I take it with a grain of salt. We all have our biases. I just avoid anyone spewing hardcore hatred and try to keep an open mind. I've already been through enough with the last five years - I don't have the bandwidth for it. IDS indeed.
Sigh. Indeed. Again if he went after, say Saudi Arabia, or hell, Azerbaijan, or maybe Türkiye with the same vehemence AND also Israel I might be able to take it. The double standards are deafening. The fact that Glenn is of Jewish heritage isn’t lost in me either. That’s an interesting consideration psychologically.
Balance is my motto. Honestly if anyone is too hateful in any direction it seems a giveaway. A friend invited me to a NYC club where 2 podcasters that are often on Jimmy Dore were performing - but their entire act was insanely cruel toward Jews. I mean cruel in the way people felt they could suddenly act toward the unvaccinated because it was sanctioned hate. It REALLY bothered me.
Everyone is so fragmented into groups that it's lonely. No one allows for nuance. Everything is so black and white. If we agree on 3 of 5 things that's just not good enough. Plus I live in NYC where I once chose to live with "my people" and it just sucks. I have exactly 1 friend IRL that I can say what I think to. 1 is better than none. BTW I need a damned tutorial on navigating this site. The design is confusing - or maybe it's just me. I went to design school where we did some re-design of apps.
I cancelled my subscription when it became clear that Matt Taibbi was ignoring or trivializing Trump's free-speech threats. He and Walter at least said a few words about Mahmoud Khalil's arrest and detention in this ATW episode, but it was pretty weak stuff. I recently subscribed to Lee Fang's Substack site; he seems to be fairly impartial. FIRE (thefire.org) and Reason have also been doing a good job regarding Trump's free-speech threats.
Very well put! And yeah, Lee’s coverage has been superb – he’s not giving the Dems or European leaders a pass, but is also exposing how the “free speech” mantra of the right is really just a way to usher in bank deregulations that, otherwise, would have been impossible; the fact that Matt used to be so brave with his economic reporting just makes his fall that much more disappointing.
Carney is frightening. The dude hasn’t lived in cda for years , he moved his company out of canada to NY years ago to avoid paying taxes. He’s trudeau on steroids ( this one has a brain. Also his wife is a big climate grifter…connected with ian bremner’s eurasia group where ousted gerald butts works. Nightmare all around) . I f@&$ing hate it here.
Yep. Listening to Matt and Walter riff on any topic has ten times the content and is ten times more grounded in actual human reality than the airball content of most sites. Racket rules!!
I'm glad you will be discussing the Romanian election. The only in-depth analysis I've found on the decision to annul it is at The New York Times. Even reading their reporting, you get the sense that there was limited direct evidence to support claims of Russian interference. Now they've barred Georgescu without explanation.
It seems like this could set a dangerous precedent, especially if the Romanian Central Electoral Bureau and the panel of judges provide so little proof or transparency.
And what do you think is the correct course of action if their claims are true? At what point does actual interference matter?
Usually the US just helps them along with coups throwing out the democratically elected officials that don't fit "American democracy!" Surely the Europeans could do the same rather than nullifying the elections?
Matt, you and Walter should review the latest epic maneuver by the Russians in Kursk. Zelensky shut down a Russian pipeline to Europe in January, and the Russians just used it to popup behind enemy lines and trap the Ukrainians and their mercenaries. This was all planned before Trump was inaugurated, even though Zelensky will try to blame him for the collapse. Also, Starlink comms were always jammed in Kursk, so, again, Trump had nothing to do with this.
Matt, Glenn Greewald invited a reporter on his show last night who has covered this in detail. He does an excellent job detailing all the serious flaws by the Trump administration and wholesale denial of due process.
Those pesky hostages! Those inconvenient posters of kidnapped babies! It’s telling how rarely any of that comes up. The “genocide” [ it’s not one ] could have been avoided if Hamas would have released the captured Israelis and Americans before the “occupation”. This is entirely on Sinwar and Hamas.
“When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons.”
-Golda Meir
Compare that with the sentiments of the PA or Hamas.
yes it is .unfortunately not many people here knowt he history of the region and think that there are innocente civilians in Gaza. I wonder...was he refering to the gaza civilians that raided the kibbutz on october 7th. or have been propogandized by UNWRA schools to hate all jews since they were children?
There is no context needed when they are chipping away at our First Amendment rights.
Israel is not special -- it is certainly not more special than America. Yet students here on valid student visas (or green card holders, like Khalil) are entitled to the same First Amendment rights as the rest of us.
They are allowed to protest against America, but not against Israel? That's absurd.
"Criticizing Israel" is a tad glib, don't you think? Stoking public disorder, disrupting classrooms and campus life, taking over campus buildings, spreading propaganda, intimidating Jewish students or others who may disagree including by wearing masks, which are sinister; blocking bridges and arteries -- in an ambulance? tough luck- anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, anti you name it. In other words, guest revolutionaries. If you're a guest and throw food at the wall, get out.
Not "glib" at all, Susan.
It's accurate.
Foreign students won't be deported for protesting anything the US does -- only Israel.
I don't know about you, but I did NOT vote to Make Israel Great Again.
Why does Israel rate such special treatment in OUR country?
Well here's the thing: I think it's glib. Outside agitators indoctrinating students, teaching them march slogans and how to march in a line against police, in YOUR country, the one you put in caps, isn't mere "protest." It's staging a revolution. I don't care what the reason is, that level of sedition and indoctrination, a lot of it from the outside, should not be allowed on U S. campuses. Putches aren't "speech."
Oh noes!
Not “outside agitators.”
Bwahahahahahahaha!
I grew up in the 60’s, & I heard that phrase a lot. The fact is, many of the anti-Israel protests were started or attended by Jewish people. This is neither a “revolution,” nor a “putch.”
Good grief.
Many Americans are sickened by the scenes that have come out of Gaza since October 7, as we’ve seen Gaza bombed into a hellscape resembling Dresden. We’ve witnessed repeated bombings of desperate people huddling in refugee camps, as well as the deliberate, repeated bombing of aid workers. We are tired of seeing our tax dollars spent on the bombing of civilians.
This does not mean that we support Hamas — only that we support civilians who should not be targeted by either side. Trump can deport all the “outside agitators” he wants, but that won’t change public opinion on this slaughter. And no — before you make the charge — I do NOT now, nor have I ever hated Jews.
Israel is not special, no matter how much lobbying AIPAC does.
Silly me, going on about those fake , outside agitators, which at this point seems to include half the population of Gaza.
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Add some "ohs" and "ums" and your response will be completely sophomoric. And then stop trolling me. You keep telling me what is and isn't. I have absolutely no interest in your opinion of my opinion. Mine stands.
But you don't mention the atrocities of October 7 -- in Israel, not that the victims there matter. Raping, even raping an upside down, beheaded corpse, legs spread apart in the back of a pick- up truck. Israelis found her head, after they invaded. Throwing a live grenade in the lap of a father sitting between his two sons, A frenzied phone call home from one of the monsters bragging to his parents how many "Jews" he had killed. Do go live among them, with flowers in your hair. Greeted as heroes by mobs on their return home. Hamas's pledge to to it all again. And again. So don't hide behind this crap that you don't support Hamas. There was a tunnel every under every freaking house.
Uh huh.
Where's your proof that any of this happened? As a university student who protested I am a witness that your statements are utterly false. When I read posts like yours I wonder about the people who write them. You weren't there. Why do you choose to believe any one story over any other story? I believe it's because you choose to believe whatever backs up your distorted, cruel, sadistic Zionist narrative. That says more about your personality and character than it does anything else.
what none understands is this is not about free speech. i posted the deportation laws here twice. if you are not a citizen you can be deported for supporting or being part of a group that promotes a terrorist group/terrorism.
The government provided no evidence that Mahmoud Khalil supported Hamas, as opposed to supporting Palestinians' rights, so unless they or someone else does so, your comment does not justify the government's actions.
Protesting and speaking on behalf of the Palestinians is the same as speaking on behalf of Native Americans. Palestinians are in the same situation - a sadistic, greedy, thuggish, well-armed Israel is committing genocide against them. Perhaps to be truly American is to be an avid supporter of genocide, no matter where it happens - bravo for your "Americanism." Just as there were abolitionists and Underground Railroad participants, there are people with a moral center who are protesting on behalf of Palestinians. You can call that supporting terrorism, but I think history will call it something else and will call you something else as well.
You said it better than I was going to. Causing disruption or damage for any cause is one thing. But preferentializing causes?
I don't have a dog in this fight, but everybody else seems to have lost their minds over the whole Israel/Gaza thing.
Genocide. It's not a thing, it's genocide.
Literal definitions. A thing. It’s not semantics. And it’s not an actual genocide. I’m sure you use the term for the much larger numbers of deaths that happened in Syria and Yemen when it was Arab on Arab “genocide”. Look, you can find the actions of the IDF deplorable and perhaps evil. That’s your opinion. The definition of genocide isn’t an opinion.
Genocide isn't about numbers or % of killed. It is about targeted mass destruction of a specific group of people.
That's what starving and bombing children and women and men indiscriminately is when it is targeted at a specific population. In this case, Palestinians in Gaza.
Not hard to understand, but hard to rationalize unless you're a Jewish supremacist.
Please, good BookWench, you know it's much worse than protesting. All of the video was evidence enough of psychological terrorism against Jews in the United States after the 10/7 attacks.
All what video? Video of protests? Blocking egress or ingress, or getting physical with passersby or spectators is already illegal. Did Khalil engage in physical assaults on Jewish students? I have not seen any video showing this.
I have found video all over the Internet of the IDF sniping at Palestinian women & children, Israeli settlers (with their entire families) gleefully blocking aid shipments to Gaza, Israeli officials describing their intent to block humanitarian aid to Gaza, and the IDF bombing refugee camps and aid workers. Is any of this "evidence . . . of psychological terrorism" against Palestinians?
We do not have a right to go through life never feeling threatened. I might feel threatened walking past a group of New Black Panthers, as they shriek anti-white slogans, but they still have a right to do so.
Why is there a constant effort to paint Jewish people as perpetual victims?
The fact that anyone opposing Israel's actions in Gaza is to be regarded as uniquely evil, and thus deserving of harsher penalties, is absurd. This is America! We all -- including resident aliens -- have the right to criticize our own government, so we should certainly have the right to criticize one tiny foreign country on the other side of the world.
(And no, I do not hate Jews.)
I agree with Walter that we should default to free speech absolutism, and also with the observation that the equivalent right-coded protest and disruption would not be tolerated by the academics and activists currently pretending to care about free expression. A lib friend sent me a clip of Secretary Mayor Pete wondering where the libertarians are, and it was the most insincere crap I've seen in a while since I know he's down with the lefty orthodoxy on "misinformation." Similarly the Ivy presidents' testimony to Congress in late 23 on free speech and tolerating viewpoint diversity was great, but they obviously didn't believe it because immediately prior they were policing "harmful" views and "microaggressions."
SCOTUS has made it clear that hate speech = free speech. You can say anything in the US, as long as you are not standing with a mob in front of someone's house inciting violence (from a distance even that's ok). People can lose their jobs (or job prospects in the case of students) but the federal government cannot constitutionally abridge your right to hate speech.
People being afraid is not a cause to do away with free speech.
Read what the Biden administration said about the guy last April. They didn't see him as a peaceful protestor. He wasn't. Free speech absolutism? I'm pretty close to it. Violation of the law is something else.
We don't revoke green cards for "psychological terrorism" in this country either. That is the exact same argument used to smear people as transphobic, etc, that you are making their "existence unsafe" by having opinions, saying mean words, and protesting.
Federal law since 1952 gives the Secretary of State the right to deport any foreign national who voices support for a terrorist organization. We do revoke green cards for psychological terrorism if it involves public speech in support of a terrorist organization. That's been law for seventy three years, and it's sensible law. You probably know Justice Robert Jackson's observation about civil liberties absolutism: “The Constitution is not a suicide pact.”
Libertarians are divorced from reality. For the third time, this is federal law, and I would be shocked to learn it has never been challenged in court. It's an unfortunate fact that effective government will always involve at least a little thuggishness. You have the right to free speech, but if you're Douglas MacArthur showing veiled but undeniable contempt for the orders of the President, don't be surprised if your military career ends abruptly.
Hell, can we deport Elon Musk— who nobody voted for— instead? And will this be the moment that Matt finally finds his backbone and criticizes this nightmarish administration that he’s been cheerleading?
nobody voted for the cabal that ran biden puppet, either.
Just wondering: what specifically has DOGE done that you disagree with?
The stupid, partisan and cruel way that it's done. Major downsizing can be achieved through attrition, as happened during the Clinton administration, when 377, 000 federal jobs were eliminated. Musk's targets are mainly agencies and programs disliked by conservatives — that's his main criteria. But putting all of that aside, there’s all of the glaring conflicts of interest! What are the odds Elon is going to target his $20 billion in federal programs whose ultimate aim is to colonize Mars? Wouldn't that be the first thing to go in any sane downsizing? Elon and Trump want to re-create a Russian-style model of oligarchs / Czar, where the rich will have to grovel for their fiefdoms before kingmaker Trump, and the average citizen will get the crumbs.
I have news for you - we’ve been living in an oligarchy for years. Nothing to do with Musk or Trump. Sounds like you might want to read up some of the grift the left has been getting away with too.
Attrition?? During the Obama years and the Biden years the federal gov't was the largest employer. Look up the Public vs Private employment figures. True attrition of public sector jobs won't happen in your or your children's lifetime, even if our gov't doesn't hire one more individual. Sorry, life is hard, life is not fair, people get fired, lose their jobs, whether private sector or public sector. Not being cruel but it's the facts of life would you prefer our country goes bankrupt or inflation gets so bad we have a depression or worse. We as Americans must come together to fight to save our country, the time is now!
I’m sorry you have such a poisoned view of things. Your seething hatred of all things Trump can be seen just below the surface. Attrition certainly can be effective, but the gross theft of our resources requires more action, I’m afraid. I would have thought that the outrageous theft of billions would have struck a nerve, like it did with me. Not sure what you mean by “liked by conservatives” Anyway, best regards.
I’m sorry you’re so gullible. Once Musk takes a knife to his contracts to colonize Mars I’ll believe he’s serious. The economy is starting to collapse because of Musk and Trump’s boneheaded approach. Here’s the real scoop, in case you’re interested and can handle it:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/02/elon-musk-doge-trump-mafia-dahlia-lithwick.html
Wright is only here to troll. Check out his tagline: "Countering the lucrative right-wing misinformation industry."
Curb stomping dei while ignoring the pentagon looks like pandering to the same mouth breathers that thought immigrants stealing their jobs was a way to keep sucking off their boss. Forty years of trickle down would have been just the thing if my boss wasn’t such a cheap labor addict.
They have not been "ignoring the Pentagon," they just haven't gotten to it yet. Hegseth is on board for it, and has posted statements supportive of DOGE.
That’s unmitigated BS. Attrition—mainly from retirements, resignations, and other departures—typically ranges from 5% to 7% per year. If we assume a 6% attrition rate, that means roughly 132,000 federal jobs could be vacated annually without layoffs. Clinton managed almost 400k. This is all a stupid and cruel theater. Btw just watch, Trump and Musk will then give these concessions out to Wall Street financiers and try to sell these services back to America people and we’ll all be poorer. The day that Musk cuts into his $20 billion in federal contracts to populate Mars I’ll believe he’s serious.
I’ve heard that Musk wants you to be on the first rocket to Mars. We will usher you to the front of the line.
Fuck these government grifters. Fire them all. As Biden said,” learn to code”
I voted for Musk.
Elon is a US citizen, so no, you cannot deport him.
The fact that anyone in this chat is defending the “honor” of Israel over free speech is beyond ominous. I am sympathetic to brainwashed boomers drinking msm cool aid. But here?
Money is the answer to your question Book Wench!
Like "criticizing" Musk is the same thing as firebombing Tesla charging stations and vandalizing cars. It's just not safe to be around these lunatics.
You might be a Jew if think you disrupting an elite Ivy League classroom is horrifying and calls for shutting down our Bill of Rights, but mass murdering women and children in a genocide to steal their land is no big deal. You are the Nazis now Jew, mass murdering civilians for lebensraum, does it feel good Jew?
Masks are "sinister" now, why just 2 years ago you woke/neo-con fusionists insisted we wear them at pain of losing our jobs.
Since I'm Catholic I wouldn't know. But look at what my comment brought out of the woodwork. Addressing someone as "Jew." How dare you? I have objected to all anti-white rhetoric, as I would any racist speech. I object particularly to the treatment of Jewish people and the concomitant rise of anti-Semitism in Europe, a la the 1930s. Enjoy yourselves tonight. If this ugliness keeps up I'll cancel my own goddamn subscription.
Do you have even one one-thousandth of this kind of a problem with the treatment of Palestinians by Israel as you are outraged at this person using the word "Jew" or are you also a Jewish supremacist?
2024 called. They want their people back who give any fucks about tired accusations of “racism.” Of course no one ever seems to call Jews “racist” after they have murdered tens of thousands of women and children to steal the land in Gaza. Why do you suppose that is?
What's bad is that at least a third of the American Jewish community does not support Israel's actions (in contrast to almost all our politicians). The ethnic cleansing and TikToked murder by Israelis will redound to American Jews even if they strongly disagree with the violence.
I’m sure you can back up your “at least one third” claim?
I cannot find the poll I was thinking of, this article claims "In a 2022 poll of American Jews, when Zionism was defined as "the belief in privileging Jewish rights over non-Jewish rights in Israel," 69 percent of American Jews said they were probably or definitely not Zionist. So 2/3s?
middleeasteye.net/big-story/why-so-many-young-jewish-americans-are-anti-zionist It has a link to Haaretz, but i don't subscribe.
The poll I remember was specifically about ethnic cleansing in Gaza.
True, Mr. Raven, but many anti-Israel protesters are actually Jewish, though I'm not sure whether any might be foreign students.
I can't wait til ICE tries deporting one of them for protesting against Israel.
I mean, that’s where we’re headed.
you cannot report for protestino against israel..but you can for supporting a terrorist group. here is the law
aliens can be deported for being in "bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity;
here is the law for deportazione of aliens. suggest you do your homework and not show your blatant, disgustino antisemitism
an alien can be deported for "bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity;"
Jews do more damage to my country every damn day than a Muzzie could even dream of by advocating for wars that only benefit your tribe, by controlling my government through AIPAC, by controlling the media and academia to indoctrinate children into woke and globalism, by controlling the rigged usury based financial system, by being the landlords that make Americans homeless.
So you leave Jew subhuman, or next time we will actually turn you into a bar of soap.
schizo post
Protest is hardly anti American. Protesting genocide is an act of bravery. A green card holder is hardly a guest. They are legally able to live in America and participate in our society.
It was students who protested the war in Vietnam. I remember. They took over buildings at colleges, they took to the streets , they opened Americas eyes.. the Ukraine war is bad and the war on Gaza is genocidal.
If any of those individual acts are crimes they can be charged with those crimes without having any need to restrict speech or specify anything about anti-Semitism. This is classic Jewish supremacist double standards.
She’s a Jew, tyranny is what they do, then they wonder, “why do you hate us?”
Sob!
he can absolutely be deported. here is the law
(B) Terrorist activities
(i) In general
Any alien who—
(I) has engaged in a terrorist activity;
(II) a consular officer, the Attorney General, or the Secretary of Homeland Security knows, or has reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry in any terrorist activity (as defined in clause (iv));
(III) has, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily harm, incited terrorist activity;
(IV) is a representative (as defined in clause (v)) of—
(aa) a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or
(bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity;
(V) is a member of a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi);
Of course the fucking state of Israel isn’t a terror state for mass murdering woman and children to steal land is it you Jew/neo-con piece of shit masquerading as a human being.
Covering up....like the KKK
Why do Jews hate free speech that makes you fundamentally anti-American leave my country and move to Europe if you like censorship so much Jew.
Teutonic elites are willing to guide us into a better world. All concerned should review spectacular failures created by globalists. Ghandi said India would prefer to decide on its future without guidance. Today best intentions often fail as unintended consequences unfold. I can't recall anything the United Nations did well. The world run by these idiots is a nightmare.
Yes the same Teutonic elites that gave us two world wars and colonialism in the Congo. That should work well. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uXdtafGdIVM
'Heart of Darkness'....Joseph Conrad and 'King Leopold's Ghost'....Adam Hochschild...must reads.
Watching this live, hilarious to watch these two squirm and hem and haw. They’re calling the deportation of the Columbia protestor a ‘political mistake’ as if the Trump carefully considered the options and erred slightly on the side censorship. For F’s sake the hand-writing’s been on the wall for years with Trump! He wanted to shoot peaceful protestors in his first administration. Taibbi’s beat is first amendment and he’s surprised and disappointed! He’s shaping up to be the most gullible reporter in America. Remember how he was heralding a new era of free speech under Musks’s ownership of Twitter? Stick to football Matt.
"He [Trump] wanted to shoot peaceful protestors . . . " thoroughly discredits anything you have to say about anyone or anything. As JD Vance would say "Do you hear yourself?"
It's totally cucked. They don't even touch on the fact that Trump is doing this because of Jewish billionaire donors. As if this is a principled and well-considered stance that might just be "politically unwise" or something. It's hilarious.
Jewish Billionaire donors.....ANTISEMITE.
PLUS...THE LAW says an alien can be deported for this "bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity;"
That would mean Israeli green card holders who support starving children would need to leave.
Oh wait you mean only “officially state designated” terrorist groups. I forgot those can’t include Jewish Israelis due to Jewish political influence in the U.S.
Jews can rape babies to death in the concentration camp of Gaza but that isn’t terrorism it’s Jewish pride in defending Israel, right?
Miriam Adelson donated 6% of his campaign funds. Opensecrets.org notes that Kamala received twice as much from the richest donors, many of whom are Jewish (and the Jewish vote overwhelmingly went to her). Trump's a lame duck so he is not beholden to his donors politically. His ties with Israel go much deeper.
Trump's world was NYC, now Florida; his worldview, his friends and family, include many Jews. (He's not 'special'. Kamala's husband is supposedly one of the most influential Jews in America. Many politicians' family have married into the Tribe, including Chelsea Clinton and Hunter and Ashley Biden; some have converted to Judaism). Same for Hollywood and RFK Jr. Of course (almost?) ALL of our DC politicians rely on AIPAC and favor Israel over the US (probably for the free health care? Or maybe because of bribes and blackmail?) This is a globalist class phenomenon; the Elites have always married for advantage.
https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1899044395090837844
"So you're saying that you have a media machine that purposefully lies to its people to maintain a political fiction and get themselves power, and that that is the hallmark of an authoritarian system not a democratic system? Well, if we were ever to get something like that in the United States we would be horrified...furious...to know there was an entire media organization designed to bend reality, to manipulate facts to maintain power...It would never happen in the United States.” Jon Stewart
Jon Stewart, in talking about Romania, proves he is either disingenuously dishonest or completely clueless.
The only other alternative is that he just woke up from a decade long napsy.
I find it startling that John Stewart is that uninformed. He is living proof that stupidity has no absolute zero……
Would hope he was being sarcastic (is that still allowed?)
While the US burns here at home from the sheer chaos that Trump and Musk have unleashed, Matt and Walter will be talking about Romania and Germany. I used to love these guys. Now, not so much......
Really.
"While the US burns here at home from the sheer chaos that Trump and Musk have unleashed..."
You must be referring to the repeated fires set at Tesla dealerships. Or maybe the destruction of college and university campuses by the neo-jihad of the Palestinian queens?
The US burns from the sheer chaos of Trump?
Is that right?
Based on your assessment, I very much doubt you’ve listened to Matt or Walter in the last two years.
I suspect you’re just trolling.
Trolling or shitlib they have a room temperature IQ, at least if you like to keep your house cold.
“ room temperature IQ” LMAO… sure.. even you don’t believe that.
JackGoff man
The "burning"here at home is the left/democrats stoking fear in its cult members. Violence,whether it is at Tesla Stores or at "protests", by masked cretins,is, misguided at best. Most Americans see through the "Fear Porn" . While I would hope and appreciate Matt and Walter calling these behaviors out, I much rather hear discussions of the rapid collapse of free speech(actual FREEDOM) and how that collapse and subsequent censoring of speech, of elections, can/is coming to America.
Especially today, following a 7 to 8 hour downing of X, and a shorter attack on Rumble.
I've been on X on and off all day - when was it down 7-8 hours?
In the morning of March 10.
yeah it was. I was wondering what was wrong. Wouldn't load right
Will this be the moment Matt finds his missing spine concerning Elon’s attack on free speech or will he do his best imitation of a Vampire Squid?
OMG he's talked about that at length.
Please point out Matt's recent article about the gutting of the CFPB and the new debanking bill. Oh right, that's another significant story he's completely ignored.
Hes a Maga apologist. Hasn't addressed the unprecedented Trump assault on free speech. Something something twitter files. What a clown
The choice in this Presidential election was between a want to be totalitarian LIE (Harris) and a N.Y. real estate hustler. We the People, for good reason, chose the real estate hustler. There is the Republic, the Constitution and the free citizen. Everything else is psyop and opinion. Depart the psyop and live.
(Matt has more journalism in his little finger than the MSM has in its entire body.)
What a hack comment.
It's a bit astonishing how thoroughly they've ignored Trump's free-speech threats regarding Israel while praising Vance and others for supposedly chastising Europe's recent record on civil liberties. We'll see if the name "Mahmoud Khalil" comes up once in their episode.
I'm definitely letting my subscription lapse. When you have Lee Fang and others covering these issues SO much better, my money is better spent elsewhere.
Already cancelled
Go to Glenn Greenwald, he's rabid anti-Israel
Glenn is a brilliant journalist. I have followed him since the Salon days during GWB - that’s over 20 years But I think something broke in his heart when his husband died. His derangement over Israel is legendary. After Oct 7 I wasn’t up for his IDS anymore. If he also raged against despotic slaver nations like Qatar for example equally I would still follow him. I don’t need to agree with my sources of information but his seething is too much to take.
I also wish he had stuck to writing instead of going all in as anchor-man. He’s so talented but he doesn’t have the charisma or gravitas to pull off a daily video gig. 🤷♂️ I will always be grateful for his true patriotic service in helping Snowden and do check in on his work still on occasion if infrequently.
I agree. I know these governments aren't saints. But when I see a clear seething hatred toward Israel, at best, I take it with a grain of salt. We all have our biases. I just avoid anyone spewing hardcore hatred and try to keep an open mind. I've already been through enough with the last five years - I don't have the bandwidth for it. IDS indeed.
Sigh. Indeed. Again if he went after, say Saudi Arabia, or hell, Azerbaijan, or maybe Türkiye with the same vehemence AND also Israel I might be able to take it. The double standards are deafening. The fact that Glenn is of Jewish heritage isn’t lost in me either. That’s an interesting consideration psychologically.
Balance is my motto. Honestly if anyone is too hateful in any direction it seems a giveaway. A friend invited me to a NYC club where 2 podcasters that are often on Jimmy Dore were performing - but their entire act was insanely cruel toward Jews. I mean cruel in the way people felt they could suddenly act toward the unvaccinated because it was sanctioned hate. It REALLY bothered me.
Everyone is so fragmented into groups that it's lonely. No one allows for nuance. Everything is so black and white. If we agree on 3 of 5 things that's just not good enough. Plus I live in NYC where I once chose to live with "my people" and it just sucks. I have exactly 1 friend IRL that I can say what I think to. 1 is better than none. BTW I need a damned tutorial on navigating this site. The design is confusing - or maybe it's just me. I went to design school where we did some re-design of apps.
Rest assured, I've supported Glenn's work for years (and have been a supporter of System Update from its very start!).
I cancelled my subscription when it became clear that Matt Taibbi was ignoring or trivializing Trump's free-speech threats. He and Walter at least said a few words about Mahmoud Khalil's arrest and detention in this ATW episode, but it was pretty weak stuff. I recently subscribed to Lee Fang's Substack site; he seems to be fairly impartial. FIRE (thefire.org) and Reason have also been doing a good job regarding Trump's free-speech threats.
Very well put! And yeah, Lee’s coverage has been superb – he’s not giving the Dems or European leaders a pass, but is also exposing how the “free speech” mantra of the right is really just a way to usher in bank deregulations that, otherwise, would have been impossible; the fact that Matt used to be so brave with his economic reporting just makes his fall that much more disappointing.
Bwahahahahahahahahaa!
The only things I see burning are Tesla dealerships -- and those fires were started by deranged anti-Musk Borg.
More burning and Chaos, please! we are far from done destroying your idol built on fear and greed and corruption.
Who's "we." Ya got a turd in your pocket? Your gibbering - about idol, fear,greed, corruption - is unintelligible.
Carney is frightening. The dude hasn’t lived in cda for years , he moved his company out of canada to NY years ago to avoid paying taxes. He’s trudeau on steroids ( this one has a brain. Also his wife is a big climate grifter…connected with ian bremner’s eurasia group where ousted gerald butts works. Nightmare all around) . I f@&$ing hate it here.
Hopefully, Matt and Walter will touch on all those subjects tonight.
Yep. Listening to Matt and Walter riff on any topic has ten times the content and is ten times more grounded in actual human reality than the airball content of most sites. Racket rules!!
I'm glad you will be discussing the Romanian election. The only in-depth analysis I've found on the decision to annul it is at The New York Times. Even reading their reporting, you get the sense that there was limited direct evidence to support claims of Russian interference. Now they've barred Georgescu without explanation.
It seems like this could set a dangerous precedent, especially if the Romanian Central Electoral Bureau and the panel of judges provide so little proof or transparency.
And what do you think is the correct course of action if their claims are true? At what point does actual interference matter?
Here is a good article from "Dropsite News":
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/romania-calin-georgescu-voided-tiktok-election
https://x.com/rnaudbertrand/status/1898913603996221562?s=46&t=oljf7-VURMunYvwFWhHaoA
How could Vance talk like he did in Munich and suppress protest??!
Well said. It’s completely devoid of self awareness
Because. . . Israel.
Israel is the reason we can't have nice things.
I’ve had about enough. If I don’t hear anything about green card holders getting deported, I’m unfortunately out. Been with you a long time, Matt.
Ryan - Hang in there. Matt said there would be more forthcoming.
Those hapless Romanians just voted wrong, that's all. . .
Those silly womanian wabbits. They just need to vote till they get it right.
Usually the US just helps them along with coups throwing out the democratically elected officials that don't fit "American democracy!" Surely the Europeans could do the same rather than nullifying the elections?
How violent are they allowed to get before there are repercussions? Assault is not free speech
Assault is already illegal.
this is what an alien can be deported for: "bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity;"
Matt, you and Walter should review the latest epic maneuver by the Russians in Kursk. Zelensky shut down a Russian pipeline to Europe in January, and the Russians just used it to popup behind enemy lines and trap the Ukrainians and their mercenaries. This was all planned before Trump was inaugurated, even though Zelensky will try to blame him for the collapse. Also, Starlink comms were always jammed in Kursk, so, again, Trump had nothing to do with this.
Hopefully
Matt, Glenn Greewald invited a reporter on his show last night who has covered this in detail. He does an excellent job detailing all the serious flaws by the Trump administration and wholesale denial of due process.
There is some context here and maybe I missed it but was Oct 7 ever mentioned?
Those pesky hostages! Those inconvenient posters of kidnapped babies! It’s telling how rarely any of that comes up. The “genocide” [ it’s not one ] could have been avoided if Hamas would have released the captured Israelis and Americans before the “occupation”. This is entirely on Sinwar and Hamas.
“When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons.”
-Golda Meir
Compare that with the sentiments of the PA or Hamas.
yes it is .unfortunately not many people here knowt he history of the region and think that there are innocente civilians in Gaza. I wonder...was he refering to the gaza civilians that raided the kibbutz on october 7th. or have been propogandized by UNWRA schools to hate all jews since they were children?
There is no context needed when they are chipping away at our First Amendment rights.
Israel is not special -- it is certainly not more special than America. Yet students here on valid student visas (or green card holders, like Khalil) are entitled to the same First Amendment rights as the rest of us.
They are allowed to protest against America, but not against Israel? That's absurd.
this is not about first amendment rights. it is abou terrorism. i posted the law...see above
bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity;