I was just telling an old friend of mine, who’s deep into a Trump-driven rage, that I still remember when the far left hated free trade. Instead of considering how such a change came about, he responded that the anti-WTO push of the 90’s was genuine, while the Trump administration’s policies are just cynical and stupid. Nothing to see he…
I was just telling an old friend of mine, who’s deep into a Trump-driven rage, that I still remember when the far left hated free trade. Instead of considering how such a change came about, he responded that the anti-WTO push of the 90’s was genuine, while the Trump administration’s policies are just cynical and stupid. Nothing to see here!
There is no argument one can make in these situations, and I’m beginning to wonder if there’s any way to reach people who are this dug in.
Exactly. The globalist elites, which aligns the interests of banking, market manipulators and their enforcers (military, intelligence, police, judicial, etc.), are in control. Their most favored tactic is social disruption. The vast majority of people are busied by arguing over social differences while the globalists pick their pockets.
You’re a historical idiot. Anyone who knows anything about antisemitism should know that ‘rootless cosmopolitan’ is an old antisemitic slur and nthat ‘globalist elite’ is an updated version of that.
My last comment on this thread: When I think of "Globalist Elites", I think of stuff like the Bilderberg Group, Bohemian Grove, The Clintons, etc, etc...
There is no association with religion there.
Ur attempting to steer this conversation to unintended/inappropriate places is very off-putting.
From Grok:
The Bilderberg Group was initiated by a small circle of influential figures, including Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, Polish politician Józef Retinger, Belgian Prime Minister Paul van Zeeland, and Dutch businessman Paul Rijkens. Prince Bernhard hosted that inaugural meeting and is often seen as a key founding figure, but the group itself is a collective effort, not the work of one person named "Bilderberg." It’s an annual, invitation-only gathering of around 120 to 150 prominent leaders from politics, business, finance, academia, and media, mostly from Europe and North America, aimed at fostering informal dialogue.
Globalist elites can mean more than one thing. To some it may be code for Jewish financiers. But it can also mean the WEF crowd and neoliberalism boosters. Maybe we should apply the principle of charity in critique? Many of us are acutely aware of thinly veiled antisemitic tropes but also alarmed at globalist elites to whom Tom Friedman panders.
I will always support accurate and concrete language. I think that the phrase ‘finance capitalism’ is more accurate since it describes the system that favors wealth creation by stock price rather than by improving products and services sold. The problem is not actually any one person or group of people; it is a set of collective decisions that created a world in which stock prices are the only measure of business success. (And yes, I know that people made those decisions — go fuck yourself, Milton Friedman — but we still need to recognize the broader system instead of blaming ‘the Davos set’ or whichever group we happen to dislike at the moment.
I see you’ve still got that grocery bag over your head. I think we can assume you are incapable of removing it by yourself so here’s a tip - one that all of us will be eternally grateful for if you follow.
My last comment on this thread: When I think of "Globalist Elites", I think of stuff like the Bilderberg Group, Bohemian Grove, The Clintons, etc, etc...
There is no association with religion there.
Ur attempting to steer this conversation to unintended/inappropriate places is very off-putting.
From Grok:
The Bilderberg Group was initiated by a small circle of influential figures, including Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, Polish politician Józef Retinger, Belgian Prime Minister Paul van Zeeland, and Dutch businessman Paul Rijkens. Prince Bernhard hosted that inaugural meeting and is often seen as a key founding figure, but the group itself is a collective effort, not the work of one person named "Bilderberg." It’s an annual, invitation-only gathering of around 120 to 150 prominent leaders from politics, business, finance, academia, and media, mostly from Europe and North America, aimed at fostering informal dialogue.
Not often enough, is this mentioned. The word Jewish should be removed for the purpose of re-assigning ideas and people into categories that have meaning, if at all.
I'd like to see the FBI do some ACTUAL Investigating, do 4 am raids on the media oligarchs (and their underlings), take their emails/texts going back years and get to the bottom of this conspiracy. Yes. There. I said it. Conspiracy. They'd actually be doing some good there. Get some people to roll on their higher ups, etc.
I’ve never heard of anybody even try to find a solution for competing with slave labor overseas, and criminal labor brought into the country by democrats.
Tariffs are simple, elegant, and solve most of the issues involved. Now if we can put a 10000000000000% tariff on karens we’ll all be instantly better off
Bullshit. The islands are under the administration of Australia so it’s not actually possible to incorporate there anyway. Do continue to pretend Trump has a brain though.
“I think there has been a lot of very bad faith criticism and intentional pretend confusion for the sake of fomenting a narrative among people who should know a lot better,” he said. “One example of this is whatever random island that only has penguins on it that people are upset about. Like, ‘Oh, like why do they have a tariff rate for this island with these penguins on it?’
“The answer is because US trade policy is done through a very formal mechanism called the harmonized tariff schedule, which defines the exact set of territory for which you have to have tariff rates and the exact set of products for which you have to have tariff rates. And it's a very granular set of territories and it does have random islands and so forth as entries on the list. And so if you're going to then announce what the tariffs are by territory, you're gonna have something for the islands on the list, right?”
The country. Their gdp would plunge if they didn’t have a whole bunch of huge corporations hiding their taxes in Ireland and skimming IP profits from those companies.
Comparatively speaking, it seems Karen is still ahead of, and building an impressive lead, in the race with Trump for the "idiotic and stupid" title. Way to go Karen!
You know, I really think the American government should NOT be trolling anyone. Government policy should be serious and boring; bullying and mistreating a segment of the population for luls is bad policy. Further, there is exactly zero evidence that anyone in the administration knew anything about Heard and McDonald islands other than from a list of internet addresses.
Seriously, the absolute worst thing about Trumpers is your insistence on defending EVER single idiotic thing he does. Remember ‘Real Men Wear Diapers?’ All the way back to his mocking a disabled reporter and bragging about his dick size in the Republican primary debates in 2016? “Eating the cats?” What sorcery does he use on you to make you defend him no matter how indefensible his actions?
Oh bullshit. I’m not going to learn anything from stupid people and Trump and his supporters are all stupid people.
As for trolling, will you be okay if Democrats start trolling policies? Trolling is nothing more than bullying. Trolls don’t advocate for policy; they want to make their opponents scared or angry or both. It’s designed for nothing but to get a reaction. Government absolutely should never do that.
Admit right now that there are 300 genders, list them, or you're a bigot.
See, you nailed it: the left would never bully. Figure it out, it's a means of control. At least you're fine with it - ie, you're not gonna learn anything. You're in a Seinfeld episode, there'll be no learning and no hugging at the end of the episode.
But honestly, didn't you listen to the video? I was freaked out by it—I now know I have to pay attention to these tariffs.
The ONLY thing you idiots ever have is a defense of an oppressive gender binary. Admit you think women are inferior to men ànd will trash civilization rather than accept women as full human beings.
I'm not a Trumper, but ranting leftist crap and leftist bullying over a fake war on Gender pushed enough of middle America into getting him elected. I wanted to vote for Bernie—The Green New Deal, Universal Healthcare — these are important!
But I'm not here to troll, you're not here to learn, so—honestly, run for something. Get into politics. Defend a position. Don't yell at me—I can't help you.
So you voted in the general for the guy who promised to do the OPPOSITE of the policies you advocate because you have some weird obsession with gender expression. That makes you a bigot. Ànd dumb
"I’m not going to learn anything from stupid people and Trump and his supporters are all stupid people." Agreed! It is quite possible that you will never learn anything...ever.
Look the fuck around you, we're all being trolled and lied to by everyone. You're sadly mistaken if you think one side or the other has your back. But you do you, and I'll sit over here watching you get the vapors while clutching your pearls over shit you can't control.
Grow up. Your attitude is annoying in a 13-year-old and blindingly stupid in anyone old enough to vote. “They’re all lying” is the dumbest kind of cynicism.
I don’t expect anyone I vote for to be my friend. I vote for the person who says they will pursue the policies that are important to me — women’s reproductive freedom and protection of the environment — and if they don’t do that when in office, I vote for someone else the next time. Also, I will never vote for anyone but a Democrat or a Republican because no one from a 3rd party is ever going to win an election in this country.
Elon Musk decided to ally himself to people who hate his product and abuse people who might buy it, so he deserves his company going out of business. And no, don’t buy Teslas; there are plenty of other electric cars.
You would believe drinking cyanide is healthy if Trump told you to drink it. You are a mindless zombie who replaced your own brains with Trump’s orders.
Bullshit. Quit reading cranks and losers. Wolf is just a nutcase. Bhattacharya is an economist with a medical background whose medical research has been conclusively and repeatedly refuted.
Excuse me, but my aunt died after getting that Covid shot. She had a massive stroke, which robbed her of the ability to speak, and died several weeks later.
My son’s friend (early 30’s) suffered heart issues after getting the shot.
You really should research this issue, if you care about your own health.
No precaution was necessary. Have you looked at the CDC statistics? Of all the people who died of Covid, all but about five or 6% I had an average of four comorbidities on their death certificates. Essentially no healthy people died of Covid. No one with a brain takes an experimental drug to reduce the symptoms of a flu or a cold. (You know these drugs did not prevent infection or transmission.) You were totally duped. Your hatred of Trump blinded you. If Fauci told you to drink cyanide, you would - because you kind of already did. Good luck.
Yeah, that must be why there are so many of us complaining about Trump's obsession with Israel, his bombing of Yemen, & his plans for Canada & Greenland.
Actually, there is quite a bit of independent thinking going on amongst Trump voters. We are not all cultists, and we are not all bursting with adoration over everything he does.
A lot of us are pretty ticked off, if you want the truth.
You voted for him. You have ZERO moral authority to complain about Trump doing EXACTLY WHAT HE PROMISED. He announced that he was going to do every single horrible thing ànd you supported him anyway. You are a liar and a fool.
You’re only beginning to wonder this? If you’ve been listening to this show for a while it’s one of the recurring theme. In fact it was even today’s short story theme. People asleep and comfy in dystopia cannot be woken up by fellow travelers appealing to them with argument. I have given up trying to appeal to very intelligent people. Now we just let this play out and see who wakes up.
Well, I suppose I thought people might come around. My views have changed…a lot! But then again, it was experience that did the changing, not conversation.
That is true, though sometimes the demeanor of those on one side or the other can affect my attitude on various topics.
When an unhinged, shrieking mob is telling me that Elon is a Nazi, I tend to back away slowly, rather than asking for another Molotov cocktail to toss onto the fire.
Isn’t that true in almost every case of the human experience? I can’t see what you see so when you try to explain to me what you see, I can’t render it until I step back. So I tend to still see whatever you’re explaining through my lense because by god it’s my entire reality.
We truly live in the most fascinating times. So for me I will continue to watch the grand reality TV show play out and appreciate what I can learn of myself and my fellow humans along the way. It truly is a fascinating time to be alive.
I find it so hard to give those people their due opportunity to speak their mind, when it's blatantly obvious that many, if not most, are calling for, wishing for, hoping for the failure of their country under Trump. I'm sorry, but I call those people traitors. They would rather see their country fail, rather than succeed under Trump - TRAITORS!
The "far left" hated capitalism and globalized "free trade" was just its latest evolutionary stage back then.
The anti-WTO push was "genuine". It was anti-capitalist, anti-corporate dominance of politics and government, and anti-mainstream political parties and the faux-democracy of liberal electoralism.
The so-called populist right aka MAGA is none of those things and anyone who believes that Elon and Jeff and Mark have "ordinary Americans" in their hearts as they back Trump needs a brain transplant.
Because you can't actually reason with ideologues. The inanities of woke and the inanities of MAGA are perfect complements.
When people are correct you shouldn’t change their opinions. Trump is an evil idiot and opposing every single thing he does is the ONLY moral or intelligent response.
If you feel an imperative to fight everything Trump does, doesn’t that make you highly manipulable? How do you know he’s not doing something cause he wants you to do the opposite?
How is sealing the southern border evil or stupid?
How many third world immigrants do you believe we can absorb, while entire American families are living in their cars, and we're losing tens of thousands to fentanyl overdoses every year?
We need to fix America, before attempting to help the rest of the world, and the best thing we could do for the rest of the world is to stop mucking around in other nations.
Southern border: Texas depends on trade with Mexico. We were, once upon a time, proud of having the largest undefended borders in human history. Sealing the border destroys that trade for exactly zero benefit.
We can absorb many millions of immigrants. Only bigots care about this because you’re a fucking racist who worries a great deal about white people.
We benefitted enormously from being the world’s nicest empire and morons like you intend to trash 90 years of peace and prosperity because you’re very stupid.
I was just telling an old friend of mine, who’s deep into a Trump-driven rage, that I still remember when the far left hated free trade. Instead of considering how such a change came about, he responded that the anti-WTO push of the 90’s was genuine, while the Trump administration’s policies are just cynical and stupid. Nothing to see here!
There is no argument one can make in these situations, and I’m beginning to wonder if there’s any way to reach people who are this dug in.
Perfect example of how people who agree on the important stuff can be driven to hate each other by the culture war stuff.
Thanks Mainstream Media!!
Exactly. The globalist elites, which aligns the interests of banking, market manipulators and their enforcers (military, intelligence, police, judicial, etc.), are in control. Their most favored tactic is social disruption. The vast majority of people are busied by arguing over social differences while the globalists pick their pockets.
It's so f-cking obvious. That 90% of the people don't recognize it for what it is is baffling to me. Sigh.
I think people are waking up to it though...at least I hope so.
🤞
Just say ‘Jews.’ We all know what ‘globalist elites’ means so you no longer need to conceal your meaning.
Your comment says WAY more about you than me.
I wasn't thinking that. Truly. I was not.
Why did you interject that?
All that does is freezes, changes, and derails this conversation.
You’re a historical idiot. Anyone who knows anything about antisemitism should know that ‘rootless cosmopolitan’ is an old antisemitic slur and nthat ‘globalist elite’ is an updated version of that.
Nonsense.
You should stop telling people what they mean when they say stuff.
My last comment on this thread: When I think of "Globalist Elites", I think of stuff like the Bilderberg Group, Bohemian Grove, The Clintons, etc, etc...
There is no association with religion there.
Ur attempting to steer this conversation to unintended/inappropriate places is very off-putting.
From Grok:
The Bilderberg Group was initiated by a small circle of influential figures, including Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, Polish politician Józef Retinger, Belgian Prime Minister Paul van Zeeland, and Dutch businessman Paul Rijkens. Prince Bernhard hosted that inaugural meeting and is often seen as a key founding figure, but the group itself is a collective effort, not the work of one person named "Bilderberg." It’s an annual, invitation-only gathering of around 120 to 150 prominent leaders from politics, business, finance, academia, and media, mostly from Europe and North America, aimed at fostering informal dialogue.
Nothing about religion there.
Words have real meanings outside of your own head, and ‘globalist elites’ is one of them.
Words, clearly, have novel interpretations inside of your own head.
Globalist elites can mean more than one thing. To some it may be code for Jewish financiers. But it can also mean the WEF crowd and neoliberalism boosters. Maybe we should apply the principle of charity in critique? Many of us are acutely aware of thinly veiled antisemitic tropes but also alarmed at globalist elites to whom Tom Friedman panders.
I will always support accurate and concrete language. I think that the phrase ‘finance capitalism’ is more accurate since it describes the system that favors wealth creation by stock price rather than by improving products and services sold. The problem is not actually any one person or group of people; it is a set of collective decisions that created a world in which stock prices are the only measure of business success. (And yes, I know that people made those decisions — go fuck yourself, Milton Friedman — but we still need to recognize the broader system instead of blaming ‘the Davos set’ or whichever group we happen to dislike at the moment.
I see you’ve still got that grocery bag over your head. I think we can assume you are incapable of removing it by yourself so here’s a tip - one that all of us will be eternally grateful for if you follow.
The bag is paper. Take a bath.
Ur talking to me? Lol.
My last comment on this thread: When I think of "Globalist Elites", I think of stuff like the Bilderberg Group, Bohemian Grove, The Clintons, etc, etc...
There is no association with religion there.
Ur attempting to steer this conversation to unintended/inappropriate places is very off-putting.
From Grok:
The Bilderberg Group was initiated by a small circle of influential figures, including Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, Polish politician Józef Retinger, Belgian Prime Minister Paul van Zeeland, and Dutch businessman Paul Rijkens. Prince Bernhard hosted that inaugural meeting and is often seen as a key founding figure, but the group itself is a collective effort, not the work of one person named "Bilderberg." It’s an annual, invitation-only gathering of around 120 to 150 prominent leaders from politics, business, finance, academia, and media, mostly from Europe and North America, aimed at fostering informal dialogue.
Nothing about religion there.
No. I was talking to the karen with the grocery bag over her head.
She keeps bouncing off reality and thinks it’s fake because she can’t see it with that bag over her head and she’s too stupid to take it off.
Got it.
smh.
It seems like some people just come to this place to agitate.
She's probably being paid too much to remove the bag.
The label on the bag reads “made by usaid”
I don't consider "globalist elites" to mean "Jews."
I don't know how many of those running the WEF or the EU are Jewish, nor do I care.
The oligarchs -- on both sides of the political aisle --are not all Jewish.
This isn't a Jew thing; this is an "us against them" thing.
Israel's undue influence over our government is a whole other issue.
Not often enough, is this mentioned. The word Jewish should be removed for the purpose of re-assigning ideas and people into categories that have meaning, if at all.
There is a world outside your own head. Visit it occasionally.
Yuck. How's that lightbulb coming along by the way?
KAREN
I really need to find my copy of Protocols Elders Zion. It is around here somewhere. That book feels correct.
And they like that too because then you’re not watching them steal your generational wealth from your children.
This substack has good insights into the tactics of resistance/social disruption, a la Gene Sharpe
https://open.substack.com/pub/marisaurgo/p/understanding-resistance-part-1-breaking?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=50k8e
YES
So very yes. I think the culture war issues just need to be met with "I don't care until we fix the economy and crime"
By design...
I'd like to see the FBI do some ACTUAL Investigating, do 4 am raids on the media oligarchs (and their underlings), take their emails/texts going back years and get to the bottom of this conspiracy. Yes. There. I said it. Conspiracy. They'd actually be doing some good there. Get some people to roll on their higher ups, etc.
That's the report I need to read.
Totally and completely.
I was initially skeptical of tariffs, but now that I understand more about them, I believe that reciprocal tariffs are a good idea.
I’ve never heard of anybody even try to find a solution for competing with slave labor overseas, and criminal labor brought into the country by democrats.
Tariffs are simple, elegant, and solve most of the issues involved. Now if we can put a 10000000000000% tariff on karens we’ll all be instantly better off
Those penguins on the Heard and McDonald islands sure had it coming.
Tariffs can be useful. Trump’s tariffs are idiotic and stupid.
It's so no one can incorporate there to avoid tariffs. Take your crayons and go color in the corner.
Bullshit. The islands are under the administration of Australia so it’s not actually possible to incorporate there anyway. Do continue to pretend Trump has a brain though.
In response to the “Penguins on an Island” trope.
“I think there has been a lot of very bad faith criticism and intentional pretend confusion for the sake of fomenting a narrative among people who should know a lot better,” he said. “One example of this is whatever random island that only has penguins on it that people are upset about. Like, ‘Oh, like why do they have a tariff rate for this island with these penguins on it?’
“The answer is because US trade policy is done through a very formal mechanism called the harmonized tariff schedule, which defines the exact set of territory for which you have to have tariff rates and the exact set of products for which you have to have tariff rates. And it's a very granular set of territories and it does have random islands and so forth as entries on the list. And so if you're going to then announce what the tariffs are by territory, you're gonna have something for the islands on the list, right?”
Oren Cass
https://www.public.news/p/oren-cass-its-a-catastrophe-that
If you knew anything which you don’t, you’d know that Ireland is crushing it via american corporations. Garbage bag.
Crushing it? Pretty sure there GDP is about the same as Tennessee, and the average income of their workers is probably less.
Who exactly in Ireland is "crushing it"?
The country. Their gdp would plunge if they didn’t have a whole bunch of huge corporations hiding their taxes in Ireland and skimming IP profits from those companies.
* their GDP
Comparatively speaking, it seems Karen is still ahead of, and building an impressive lead, in the race with Trump for the "idiotic and stupid" title. Way to go Karen!
You make little sense with that. Once again, try to keep up.
He's trolling people like you. And it worked, lol.
You know, I really think the American government should NOT be trolling anyone. Government policy should be serious and boring; bullying and mistreating a segment of the population for luls is bad policy. Further, there is exactly zero evidence that anyone in the administration knew anything about Heard and McDonald islands other than from a list of internet addresses.
Seriously, the absolute worst thing about Trumpers is your insistence on defending EVER single idiotic thing he does. Remember ‘Real Men Wear Diapers?’ All the way back to his mocking a disabled reporter and bragging about his dick size in the Republican primary debates in 2016? “Eating the cats?” What sorcery does he use on you to make you defend him no matter how indefensible his actions?
Trolling is necessary given the pathetic state of journalism. The trolling gets ratings, earned press coverage, and a worsened intellectual response.
You're not learning anything; you're angry. You're not arguing or thinking; you're offended.
Calm down, forget the penguins, (which is genuinely funny), and think about trade.
Oh bullshit. I’m not going to learn anything from stupid people and Trump and his supporters are all stupid people.
As for trolling, will you be okay if Democrats start trolling policies? Trolling is nothing more than bullying. Trolls don’t advocate for policy; they want to make their opponents scared or angry or both. It’s designed for nothing but to get a reaction. Government absolutely should never do that.
Admit right now that there are 300 genders, list them, or you're a bigot.
See, you nailed it: the left would never bully. Figure it out, it's a means of control. At least you're fine with it - ie, you're not gonna learn anything. You're in a Seinfeld episode, there'll be no learning and no hugging at the end of the episode.
But honestly, didn't you listen to the video? I was freaked out by it—I now know I have to pay attention to these tariffs.
The ONLY thing you idiots ever have is a defense of an oppressive gender binary. Admit you think women are inferior to men ànd will trash civilization rather than accept women as full human beings.
Uh, see—no argument. You're just angry.
I'm not a Trumper, but ranting leftist crap and leftist bullying over a fake war on Gender pushed enough of middle America into getting him elected. I wanted to vote for Bernie—The Green New Deal, Universal Healthcare — these are important!
But I'm not here to troll, you're not here to learn, so—honestly, run for something. Get into politics. Defend a position. Don't yell at me—I can't help you.
So you voted in the general for the guy who promised to do the OPPOSITE of the policies you advocate because you have some weird obsession with gender expression. That makes you a bigot. Ànd dumb
"I’m not going to learn anything from stupid people and Trump and his supporters are all stupid people." Agreed! It is quite possible that you will never learn anything...ever.
Look the fuck around you, we're all being trolled and lied to by everyone. You're sadly mistaken if you think one side or the other has your back. But you do you, and I'll sit over here watching you get the vapors while clutching your pearls over shit you can't control.
Grow up. Your attitude is annoying in a 13-year-old and blindingly stupid in anyone old enough to vote. “They’re all lying” is the dumbest kind of cynicism.
I don’t expect anyone I vote for to be my friend. I vote for the person who says they will pursue the policies that are important to me — women’s reproductive freedom and protection of the environment — and if they don’t do that when in office, I vote for someone else the next time. Also, I will never vote for anyone but a Democrat or a Republican because no one from a 3rd party is ever going to win an election in this country.
Fuck off, Karen. I'll do, be, and say whatever I want, and you and your Karen brigade can stuff it.
I suspect karen of the grocery bag over her head is paid by substack to generate clix
I admit that I am not the boss of you. You’re still a childish nitwit.
Look at that a halfwit calling someone else a nitwit. Lol.
The environment!? But not Teslas anymore right?! Those are Hitler cars now. Of course you love killing babies, it all makes sense.
Elon Musk decided to ally himself to people who hate his product and abuse people who might buy it, so he deserves his company going out of business. And no, don’t buy Teslas; there are plenty of other electric cars.
You would believe drinking cyanide is healthy if Trump told you to drink it. You are a mindless zombie who replaced your own brains with Trump’s orders.
Says the person who has had every Covid booster for the last 5 years. Lol
Yes, and? I don’t understand why taking sensible precautions against a dangerous illness is bad?
Seriously, you never noticed any negative news about those shots?
For the sake of your own health, please check out some of the writings of Naomi Wolf, or Jay Battacharya, among many others.
The Covid shot is NOT a "sensible precaution" against anything.
Bullshit. Quit reading cranks and losers. Wolf is just a nutcase. Bhattacharya is an economist with a medical background whose medical research has been conclusively and repeatedly refuted.
Excuse me, but my aunt died after getting that Covid shot. She had a massive stroke, which robbed her of the ability to speak, and died several weeks later.
My son’s friend (early 30’s) suffered heart issues after getting the shot.
You really should research this issue, if you care about your own health.
Are you a satirical account, a Karen?
No precaution was necessary. Have you looked at the CDC statistics? Of all the people who died of Covid, all but about five or 6% I had an average of four comorbidities on their death certificates. Essentially no healthy people died of Covid. No one with a brain takes an experimental drug to reduce the symptoms of a flu or a cold. (You know these drugs did not prevent infection or transmission.) You were totally duped. Your hatred of Trump blinded you. If Fauci told you to drink cyanide, you would - because you kind of already did. Good luck.
Yeah, that must be why there are so many of us complaining about Trump's obsession with Israel, his bombing of Yemen, & his plans for Canada & Greenland.
Actually, there is quite a bit of independent thinking going on amongst Trump voters. We are not all cultists, and we are not all bursting with adoration over everything he does.
A lot of us are pretty ticked off, if you want the truth.
You’ve never uttered one single word of complaint against Trump and you’ver certainly never DONE anything to oppose him. Quit lying
I have consistently blasted Trump on censorship issues (deporting people over Israel protests), and on his unquestioning, endless support of Israel.
I have written to the White House several times over these and other issues.
I actually took part in 2 reopen rallies here in Phoenix during Trump’s first term, as well.
You voted for him. You have ZERO moral authority to complain about Trump doing EXACTLY WHAT HE PROMISED. He announced that he was going to do every single horrible thing ànd you supported him anyway. You are a liar and a fool.
No, he did not announce that he would be deporting green card holders for protesting against Israel.
Nor did he campaign on the issues of “annexing” Canada, or taking over Greenland, or bombing Yemen.
I’ll continue to criticize Trump, or anyone else I please, without your say-so, Karen.
Have a nice day.
You’re only beginning to wonder this? If you’ve been listening to this show for a while it’s one of the recurring theme. In fact it was even today’s short story theme. People asleep and comfy in dystopia cannot be woken up by fellow travelers appealing to them with argument. I have given up trying to appeal to very intelligent people. Now we just let this play out and see who wakes up.
Well, I suppose I thought people might come around. My views have changed…a lot! But then again, it was experience that did the changing, not conversation.
That is true, though sometimes the demeanor of those on one side or the other can affect my attitude on various topics.
When an unhinged, shrieking mob is telling me that Elon is a Nazi, I tend to back away slowly, rather than asking for another Molotov cocktail to toss onto the fire.
Isn’t that true in almost every case of the human experience? I can’t see what you see so when you try to explain to me what you see, I can’t render it until I step back. So I tend to still see whatever you’re explaining through my lense because by god it’s my entire reality.
We truly live in the most fascinating times. So for me I will continue to watch the grand reality TV show play out and appreciate what I can learn of myself and my fellow humans along the way. It truly is a fascinating time to be alive.
I find it so hard to give those people their due opportunity to speak their mind, when it's blatantly obvious that many, if not most, are calling for, wishing for, hoping for the failure of their country under Trump. I'm sorry, but I call those people traitors. They would rather see their country fail, rather than succeed under Trump - TRAITORS!
Are they even aware of how pathetic and hateful they sound and look 👀?
I don’t think there is. I voted for a result. Fall in love with a result, not the candidate.
Totally convinced it’s best for me to step aside quickly as they come racing by, their eyes glowing red
nope, waste of time. they just needs be defeated.
You don't think you're the one dug in if you can't hear an argument about the difference between the two?
The "far left" hated capitalism and globalized "free trade" was just its latest evolutionary stage back then.
The anti-WTO push was "genuine". It was anti-capitalist, anti-corporate dominance of politics and government, and anti-mainstream political parties and the faux-democracy of liberal electoralism.
The so-called populist right aka MAGA is none of those things and anyone who believes that Elon and Jeff and Mark have "ordinary Americans" in their hearts as they back Trump needs a brain transplant.
Because you can't actually reason with ideologues. The inanities of woke and the inanities of MAGA are perfect complements.
Nope.
When people are correct you shouldn’t change their opinions. Trump is an evil idiot and opposing every single thing he does is the ONLY moral or intelligent response.
If you feel an imperative to fight everything Trump does, doesn’t that make you highly manipulable? How do you know he’s not doing something cause he wants you to do the opposite?
Everything Trump does is both evil and stupid.
How is sealing the southern border evil or stupid?
How many third world immigrants do you believe we can absorb, while entire American families are living in their cars, and we're losing tens of thousands to fentanyl overdoses every year?
We need to fix America, before attempting to help the rest of the world, and the best thing we could do for the rest of the world is to stop mucking around in other nations.
Southern border: Texas depends on trade with Mexico. We were, once upon a time, proud of having the largest undefended borders in human history. Sealing the border destroys that trade for exactly zero benefit.
We can absorb many millions of immigrants. Only bigots care about this because you’re a fucking racist who worries a great deal about white people.
We benefitted enormously from being the world’s nicest empire and morons like you intend to trash 90 years of peace and prosperity because you’re very stupid.
Bwahahahahahahahaha!
Whatever.
That's not intelligent; when Trump does something sensible, like closing the southern border, he should be praised, not opposed.
When, on the other hand, Trump insists on bombing Yemen on behalf of Israel, he should be loudly opposed.
Hyperbolic