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Sevender's avatar

James Lindsay has coined the term Race Marxism but to me that doesn’t encompass all the flavors of identity-based revolutionary tyranny.

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craazyman's avatar

The 20th century union movement succeeded massively in saving Depression-era capitalism from itself and powering broad middle class prosperity — with a huge tailwind from America’s dominant post-WW2 industrial base, of course.

But admittedly unionism became a victim of its own success and the movement descended by the 1970s into bloated corruption, similar to an empire degenerating after expansion.

The cultural left then took up the “rebellion” baton from the economic left as Reagan-era economic growth and declining interest rates ushered in a multi-decade expansion that had little need or room for unions. And a new generation of Americans learned to borrow their way to prosperity if income didn’t do it. We haven’t paid that piper yet.

Now here we are with the cultural left bloated and corrupt from its own largely successful historical journey from 60s-era civil rights to now. The cultural left is in the pocket of big business and the economic left remains back on its heels not knowing what to say or do for broad public support. Some of it has fused with the cultural left, either out of strategy or historical ignorance or both.

Race Marxism is a reasonably good descriptor — “Give us money because we’re historically oppressed _______ (fill in the blank)”. Appealing to the abstract idea of economic justice doesn’t fly. It’s too complicated and wonky, it demands too much thought, it demands an idea of citizenship and vision of society that’s too complex for soundbites. So we get the race hustle as a teleological 3-Card Monte on the street corner of the American Mind (if that’s not an oxymoron) and the corporations, governments and institutions lay down the hustle on employees. That makes the hustle effectively a cultural operating system that anyone defies at their peril.

Well, its a lot easier than facing the more abstract questions of capital vs. labor. And it lets the “leaders” preen with virtue. Race Marxism is probably a good descriptor — since the driving energy seems to be a blind and aggressive racial consciousness. Although to be sure many of its adherents are just grifters without interest in Marxist thought or perhaps even the reasoning ability to navigate intellectual history.

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Tankin' It's avatar

Conservatives have been winning for decades. At least since Reagan. There is no Left. There are barely liberals. The Clintons routed them out of the Democratic Party. The liberal class had a function that benefited capitalists, as you said. By providing a few adjustments in the economy, they prevented both socialism and fascism. The liberal class is dead, as Chris Hedges pointed out in a book-length treatment.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

I have no clue to what the Canadian left is and I am a card carrying member of the NDP and our right center CAQ government led by conservative economist François Legault is to the left of Jagmeet Singh. This ain't Kansas and what's wrong with Kansas ain't what is wrong here. The only thing wrong here is Covid which prevented the arrival of 400000 new Quebec citizens over the last two years and was the only serious topic in the federal leaders French debate.

The unintended consequence of a boom economy is too many jobs and not enough workers for at least a generation in an economy where healthcare, daycare, education, access to broadband, much more than basic welfare are universal rights not privileges. In Quebec there is no such thing as a bad job. If you have a job you are wealthy by any real measure.

We don't even know how much excess pork is still on the hoof getting much larger than standard slaughter age.

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BlueRocket's avatar

Bullocks, Quebec is an ethno-nationalist feudal duchy run by the exact same families that owned the place in 1763. Quebec's very existence depends on Scots religiously applying common law. If you look, not very hard, the most common white nationalist symbol in the protest was Drapeau des Patriots, times a factor of 100.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

The Fleur du Lys is not about the Virtue of Selfishness it is A La Recherche de Temp Perdue. It is Proustian not the GOP and Democratic Parties and Corporations are people and arms are weapons of peace and tranquility.

You have my sympathy. In Bill 21 Quebec your analysis is absurd. We are a democracy and the fleur de Lys is the flag of Bourbon France. That is why I always say America does know its past present and future it is Lost in Space and lost in time. Quebec in 2022 is Liberty, Equality and Fraternity and it is too much of America that should fly the flag of the eternal Fourth Reich.

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BlueRocket's avatar

Bullocks again, wrong flag. I'm talking about Parti Patriot one with Le Vieux de'37 guy on it. Ya know the one that La Meute and Storm Alliance like. I'm born and raised in Wakefield QC, Quebec is my home and everybody in the Province knows exactly what the thing means. It's too bad that the English press is so clueless about it but there ya go. BTW Blanchet uses the older version on his friggin website.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

We still have nazis but so does everyone else. Look at Israel.

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BlueRocket's avatar

oh Moe that's hilarious. Quebec is surrounded by the most lawful civilization in the world. Carleton's Quebec act (1775) is the first "intersectional" legislation in history. It guaranteed the Church even the right of tithe. Which was a big deal in the uniformly Protestant British Colonies. The British ain't no Caliphate and never were. To this day the Parliament of Canada tolerates a treasonous ethno-nationalist Federal party. Ya know the one that uses Parti Patriot Flag. BTW it wasn't the Orange Order that was planting bombs and murdering people in the 60s. Nor was it Ontario or Nova Scotia that brought the Army out to a dispute over a golf course. Sorry dude.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

BlueRocket

I am just a brain damaged psychotic troll living where the Bloc is the only liberal Party in the most conservative nation on the planet. I know I can't handle simple instructions but believed I was a linguistic savant. I don't live in Montreal where the Ministry of Truth's English language daily founded by the great propagandist and satirist Bonhomme Richard holds sway. I live hours away under a bridge next to an old mill.

What are the metaphysics of the Bloc?

My MMP is CAQ and far more conservative than Mitt son of George of American Motors.

I don't speak English trolls have no vocal chords they only howl.

Renewed Federalism how enlightened is that?

In my world where water never flows upstream but optical illusion are everywhere.it is a matter of perspective. I am just rereading Irving Layton's Improved Binoculars. I always thought he was a conservative from the moment he expounded on his devotion to selfishness. I am an old troll and now understand why he and Leonard are inseparable. Irving taught the Priest about love.😢

What is the Fleur de Lys but the flag of the Bourbons? What's a Bourbon? Who knows trolls can't drink they live on cannabis.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Life on your side of the looking glass is difficult for old trolls.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

I speak your language fluently I am a troll and we are literary illusions and we have been around forever waiting for tasty and delicious billy goats. We can howl and bleat at each other forever through what we believe are improved binoculars. I learned history under the same sponsors as Kamala Harris, who attended the same High School as Leonard the Priest whose image is Montreal's statue of liberty. Westmont High is still the flagship of The Protestant School Board of Greater Montreal even as Protestants Catholic, Jews , Hindus, Moslems and Sikhs no longer exist in Quebec. I remember when Rene Levesque Boulevard was named after a British aristocrat. I am an old troll who loves the fact that it is now named after a crusading Socratic Journalist who served in FDR's military as a journalist in Europe and was there when Dachau was liberated. My father was a wandering Aramean.

Levesque was no wild eyed ideological zealot he was an FDR pragmatist and is no doubt smiling because he lost the battle but won the war. Those that once saw us as the enemy cannot show us enough love.

Liberal democracy sure smells sweet much much sweeter than decaying rotting billy goat. My father in law was an TVA Ichthyologist and a brilliant scientist but he too was an old troll named after Eugene V Debs. Maybe that old heavy paper weight with Debs' image will someday be worth something to somebody else's grandchildren I am the last of the trolls my grandchildren don't like living under bridges.

This is the conversation I have been waiting for . What do you make of Chrystia's uncle being known as the father and grandfather of The Freedom of Information Act? It truly frightens this promoter of the scientific method. This is indeed the Outer Limits of the Universe. Such is the life of a crazy old troll whose State Senator was once named Barack Obama and whose member of parliament was once called Pierre Eliot Trudeau one of the Three Wise Men.. It is wonderful talking about blind Brahmans.

I sure miss my friend Douglas Adams this improbability generator is awfully confusing without a guide and instruction manual.

Real history seems far more interesting than America's virtual history.

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Gail's avatar

Society cannot function without a center or a platform for the voice of the individual.

It used to be the coolest thing

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Tankin' It's avatar

The center cannot hold, the poet said. That's been a long process. In the West, the church was the center for hundreds of years, until the scientific revolution. The theory was going to be that reason and culture would replace religion as a "center." It hasn't worked. To explain all this though would take a long long text. A book that addresses it is "Culture and the Death of God" by Terry Eagleton.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

I don't need to read the book I star in the movie.

In Quebec Bill21 bans religions in our public places like schools, legislatures courtrooms and public offices. We are so liberal our ACLU wants us taken to court. That is why in many places the paint on the wall is two different colours and the darker paint is in the shape of a cross. That is why we call it a quiet revolution we have taken Jesus down from the cross and put him where he belongs somewhere in our hearts.

It is from my perspective working very well but Newspeak is not spoken here. Love is love and hate is hate.

I don't believe in gods, magic or miracles but sometimes listening to America and living in Quebec you start to wonder if being your brother's keeper is the only commandment worth a damnation or a salvation.

In Quebec if you want to resign from politics all it takes is saying God bless Quebec.

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BlueRocket's avatar

Bullocks, the giant cross neon on Mont Royal?

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

You go up there to see the giant mural of Leonard lit up as night. Nobody knows what a cross is anymore it is a sign post not a shrine. It is the center of Montreal not its heart.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

Our government is conservative but in Newspeak they are an ultra left dictatorship.

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Gail's avatar

To be ambidextrous. By today’s standards, it would render you hated by everybody.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

pierce is of course correct . I am an imbecile. I don't facebook. I don't twitter. I can't follow what a ten year old considers simple instructions. If I wasn't labelled a genius I couldn't of found my way here. Following the yellow brick road is how I got here the only tornado I ever experienced was miles away.

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Gail's avatar

Yet Hitler’s “ National Socialism” was actual very similar to Communism. It wasn’t solely relegated to Germany. Like the USSR, he was taking it to a global level, conquering sovereign territories. Or Islamist Fascism, creating a global caliphate. Now it’s culminated into the Red/Green Axis, a melding of once opposing tyrannical ideologies of Communism, Fascism and Fundamentalist Theocratic Islam. Ironic, given Nazism and Communism were atheist movements, replacing the church with the state.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

I think Gail totally understands insanity.

I believe the legal definition is not knowing right from wrong.

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Is "neurodiverse" the same thing as "trans-diverse?" Or is it something altogether different? For the life of me I can't keep this shit straight. It's worse that sabermetrics.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

I have been stoned much of my life. My friends tell me I am much more stoned when I am not stoned. I am I totally stoned at the moment. Tell me am I stoned or totally unstoned? Our health department in our Marxist Utopia says for people my age stoned is better than unstoned it slows the progression and even lowers the possibility of Alzheimer's. I am pretty neutral on Alzheimer's I don't know if it is blessing or a curse.🤣🤣

Order Jean Guy from the catalogue our government is the Amazon of pot. Quality, price and selection and they put MainStreet out of Business in less than year.

Is there an Emoji for I'm coming to join you Elizabeth or are too few who remember Sanford and Son and nobody likes geezer comedy.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Moose's avatar

Paranoid are we?

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Gail's avatar

I don’t know. Too busy wondering who’s lurking in the shadows behind my dresser

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Gail's avatar

Who is “we”? Ironically, I never gave much thought to anything political or global beyond the superficial. Something changed during the Obama years, but I still didn’t look into the Bush years.It wasn’t until Trump’s presidency that everything I believed about our government and global affairs changed. It’s my own fault. Much of what I’ve discovered was accidental. Just stumbled upon enormous events, financial entities and global ties I’d have rolled my eyes at not long ago.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

Gail I think you might understand someone who spent 74 years searching for who I am and hope there is at least two decades remaining in my glorious Quest.

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