The left has framed the issue as if we aren't discussing sex at all, but some sort of fashion or "lifestyle choice."
Your really interesting comment is a reminder that gay/trans liberation politics has the aim of not mere toleration of homosex or cross-dressing but the normalization of homosex and pedophilia.
The left has framed the issue as if we aren't discussing sex at all, but some sort of fashion or "lifestyle choice."
Your really interesting comment is a reminder that gay/trans liberation politics has the aim of not mere toleration of homosex or cross-dressing but the normalization of homosex and pedophilia.
The hysteria of the trans liberation movement has crippled gay toleration, thanks to their absurd claim that sex can be reduced to a performance and secondary sex characteristics are just so much fashion and one can change sexual orientation as easily as one changes clothes, can "choose" to be male or female. (I refuse to write the word "gender" except when pointing it out as gay/trans political cant.)
There is a group called Gays Against Groomers who have been defunded by PayPal & other monetary organizations. From what I've seen of them they do not like the standard LGBTQ party line at all.
Much like black Trump supporters they're not allowed to have their own opinion if that opinion deviates from the party line.
Honestly Bull I regret my long comment. I spent all day yesterday thinking about shit I haven't thought about in decades including my buddy who got lost in a crack/heroin vortex about 20 years ago.
Made a few attempts to find him over the years but, for all I know, he's taking a dirt nap.
Most of the "normalization" attempts aren't too surprising. Even the guy locked in his locker with his underwear pulled up over his head secretly dreams of being the BMOC.
Humans and their sexual quirks are legion.
When I was younger & sold weed & hash with my buddy, one of our clients was a dominatrix.
She was cool as hell. None of her services actually involved sex in the traditional sense. For example, we stopped by one night to make a delivery and she told us she had a black client there who was paying her $200 an hour to be treated like a slave. He was currently in her backyard cleaning up her dog's shit. She offered us $50 each to go back and kick his ass. She said he'd love it. We declined.
She would do things to other clients like call them at 3 am in the dead of winter & order them to stand outside in the freezing cold in their underwear until she called back. Then she'd bill them. At $200 an hour it was obvious her clientele was made up of successful men. They all just ached to be belittled & punished. To working class white trash like me it was just funny.
Don't regret the length of the comment--it's interesting and relevant.
I worked with a guy in the late '80s, a sheetrock subcontractor, who was a heavy drinker like we all were, and also he smoked a lot of pot. When he discovered crack, that was he end. He became totally useless as a worker and gradually vanished, never to be heard of again since his last known whereabouts at a fleabag weekly-rate hotel. We'd all dabbled with cocaine--it was everywhere and cheap in the late '80s--but he was the only one of our circle who went overboard.
Anyway, the world has always held people with sexual kinks and perversions, only now each peculiar fetish can whip up a fake "community" online with the miracle of the Internet, so I think the number of weirdos like your masochistic wannabe slave is exaggerated, and we wouldn't hear about this insanity were it not for social media.
My 1st inclination that my buddy was hurtling off the rails came one night when I showed up at his apartment.
The door cracked open (sorry) & one crazed eye appeared.
He said, "Are they still up there?"
I looked upwards & said, "Ummm...is who up where?"
He said, "The black helicopters."
I looked up again and said, "There's nobody there bud."
He said, "You don't understand, it's night time & they're black."
Eventually he let me in but the idea of watching him bounce off of the walls lost its appeal very quickly so I decided to leave. He made me carry out a weed whacker because, "they're watching me & if you leave empty handed they'll think you're here buying drugs."
So, like an idiot, I drove off with his weed whacker.
At the time I thought the dominatrix deal would have been one awesome job. Where else could you get paid an insane amount of money to belittle rich people? To be viable for me I would have had find rich women and, as a woman I knew at the time pointed out to me, in a very hostile tone of voice I might add, "Women don't have to pay men to belittle them, you bastards do that for free." Oh well another dream eviscerated.
I don't disagree about the internet and social media but I don't think its damaging effects can be limited to issues of sexuality. Humans have always spouted off, social media just etches that spouting off in indelible ink & then sends it off to the Library of Congress to be preserved forever.
Groups & individuals who, in the past, would never have interacted are now in each other's faces constantly. It's not healthy. It should have been obvious that it wouldn't be healthy at its inception. Which leads the paranoid part of my brain to think that division was always the goal.
The left has framed the issue as if we aren't discussing sex at all, but some sort of fashion or "lifestyle choice."
Your really interesting comment is a reminder that gay/trans liberation politics has the aim of not mere toleration of homosex or cross-dressing but the normalization of homosex and pedophilia.
The hysteria of the trans liberation movement has crippled gay toleration, thanks to their absurd claim that sex can be reduced to a performance and secondary sex characteristics are just so much fashion and one can change sexual orientation as easily as one changes clothes, can "choose" to be male or female. (I refuse to write the word "gender" except when pointing it out as gay/trans political cant.)
There is a group called Gays Against Groomers who have been defunded by PayPal & other monetary organizations. From what I've seen of them they do not like the standard LGBTQ party line at all.
Much like black Trump supporters they're not allowed to have their own opinion if that opinion deviates from the party line.
Honestly Bull I regret my long comment. I spent all day yesterday thinking about shit I haven't thought about in decades including my buddy who got lost in a crack/heroin vortex about 20 years ago.
Made a few attempts to find him over the years but, for all I know, he's taking a dirt nap.
Most of the "normalization" attempts aren't too surprising. Even the guy locked in his locker with his underwear pulled up over his head secretly dreams of being the BMOC.
Humans and their sexual quirks are legion.
When I was younger & sold weed & hash with my buddy, one of our clients was a dominatrix.
She was cool as hell. None of her services actually involved sex in the traditional sense. For example, we stopped by one night to make a delivery and she told us she had a black client there who was paying her $200 an hour to be treated like a slave. He was currently in her backyard cleaning up her dog's shit. She offered us $50 each to go back and kick his ass. She said he'd love it. We declined.
She would do things to other clients like call them at 3 am in the dead of winter & order them to stand outside in the freezing cold in their underwear until she called back. Then she'd bill them. At $200 an hour it was obvious her clientele was made up of successful men. They all just ached to be belittled & punished. To working class white trash like me it was just funny.
Don't regret the length of the comment--it's interesting and relevant.
I worked with a guy in the late '80s, a sheetrock subcontractor, who was a heavy drinker like we all were, and also he smoked a lot of pot. When he discovered crack, that was he end. He became totally useless as a worker and gradually vanished, never to be heard of again since his last known whereabouts at a fleabag weekly-rate hotel. We'd all dabbled with cocaine--it was everywhere and cheap in the late '80s--but he was the only one of our circle who went overboard.
Anyway, the world has always held people with sexual kinks and perversions, only now each peculiar fetish can whip up a fake "community" online with the miracle of the Internet, so I think the number of weirdos like your masochistic wannabe slave is exaggerated, and we wouldn't hear about this insanity were it not for social media.
My 1st inclination that my buddy was hurtling off the rails came one night when I showed up at his apartment.
The door cracked open (sorry) & one crazed eye appeared.
He said, "Are they still up there?"
I looked upwards & said, "Ummm...is who up where?"
He said, "The black helicopters."
I looked up again and said, "There's nobody there bud."
He said, "You don't understand, it's night time & they're black."
Eventually he let me in but the idea of watching him bounce off of the walls lost its appeal very quickly so I decided to leave. He made me carry out a weed whacker because, "they're watching me & if you leave empty handed they'll think you're here buying drugs."
So, like an idiot, I drove off with his weed whacker.
At the time I thought the dominatrix deal would have been one awesome job. Where else could you get paid an insane amount of money to belittle rich people? To be viable for me I would have had find rich women and, as a woman I knew at the time pointed out to me, in a very hostile tone of voice I might add, "Women don't have to pay men to belittle them, you bastards do that for free." Oh well another dream eviscerated.
I don't disagree about the internet and social media but I don't think its damaging effects can be limited to issues of sexuality. Humans have always spouted off, social media just etches that spouting off in indelible ink & then sends it off to the Library of Congress to be preserved forever.
Groups & individuals who, in the past, would never have interacted are now in each other's faces constantly. It's not healthy. It should have been obvious that it wouldn't be healthy at its inception. Which leads the paranoid part of my brain to think that division was always the goal.
It has nothing to do with pedophilia, but just like Anita Bryant and legions of gay haters, you can't resist the slur.
Just because you can't use the word "gender" doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You just chose to ignore the cultural aspects of it.
Of course there's also the whole "evolutionary dead end" aspect to it all. If everyone were gay the human race would be extinct in a generation.