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Lekimball's avatar

I'm a writer and I can tell you that the most distressing thing about the last four years has been what has happened to journalism in this country. Mainstream always leaned left but they have abandoned any semblance of the truth and joined the socialist party. It's breath-taking what they are doing. I think this corruption of the media is linked to the corruption of the Democrat party (and particularly people like Biden). I don't see how you separate the two anymore. If people don't like Trump's personality, he'll be gone soon, but if we let the left socialist + media take over this country, it will be unrecognizable in a week.

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Kelly Green's avatar

Bari Weiss said it best "a new consensus has emerged in the press, but perhaps especially at this paper[the NYT]: that truth isn’t a process of collective discovery, but an orthodoxy already known to an enlightened few whose job is to inform everyone else."

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Gary Hemminger's avatar

I don't think they believe it is the truth. They believe that thinking this way and forcing others to do the same will create a Utopia. Their utopia is actually a dystopia. Everything that has ever tried to utopia thing has all met the same bad ending. I think the Democrats have become a cult. You know where you can never leave or have any communication with the outside world. That is the very definition of a cult.

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

If they want to push it to the logical conclusion, they'll end up under siege in their own filthy cities and descend into barbarism as they fight among themselves.

That's something I'd rather endure than more of this.

Probably a good time to flee the cities.

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Lekimball's avatar

Except who wants them in the suburbs. :) They are already moving to Texas and Florida and messing up those states.

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Trollificus's avatar

Correction: It's something I'd rather THEY endure, than more of this.

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Antipodean's avatar

Well said, Gary.

Time for a literary detour in support 😀 In 1949 C. S. Lewis published an essay which in part had this to say on good intentions:

"...Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.

It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience..."

From that always interesting website: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2019/12/19/intentions/

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Gary Hemminger's avatar

I have read that before as well. It is spot on! Because they think they are doing by us, they actually do really bad and not suffer any guilt.

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Trollificus's avatar

Always love that quote, and trot it out when people are excoriating businesses for being "greedy". Greed is ugly, and can hurt people...but it can also generate positive externalities, AND it's a straightforward, easily understood motivation.

Unlike the vile, amorphous beast* that is "For your own good."

*-it's positively Lovecraftian!!

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Dale Fitzgerald's avatar

That’s a terrifying assertion.

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Kelly Green's avatar

I actually have what I think is a new insight here. I watched "The Social Dilemma". We all kind of know the press is in a bubble, and we all kind of know that social media, especially Twitter, feeds that. So it's not news that journos are in a social media-fed bubble.

But watching that documentary gave me a new respect for how potent that effect can be, and how it can be stimulated and encouraged by the AI algorithms of social media. Social media already lets you pick your friends etc, but the algos specifically feed you content they align with your previous thinking. So these journos are being forced deeper into the "rabbit holes" by the algos themselves. It explains a lot.

This particularly resonated with me when I listened to the full interview of Trump by Lesley Stahl. Stahl was asking questions that I couldn't even agree with the premise of (and were in some cases demonstrably untrue, like asking Trump why he said that Gretchen Whitmer should be locked up. How could Stahl be that in the dark about reality? For the same reasons that basic lies that are repeated often enough by the media become accepted truth - and all fed by social media and journos in one big awful feedback loop.

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memento mori's avatar

Noam Chomsky wrote about this long ago in Manufacturing Consent. It was a thing even before social media.

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Kelly Green's avatar

To see this more clearly, it's helpful to understand that this is why people start to believe in "flat Earth" theories, too. They get fed the videos and content by social media algorithms so much they believe that it's true. If it's that easy to convince someone the Earth is flat, how hard can it be to make Trump seem evil, as inherently flawed as he already is?

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Mitch's avatar

The Social Dilemma is a great documentary on the subject of social media. Two solid books for learning more about that:

‘The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power’ by Shoshana Zuboff

and

‘Digital Disconnect‘ by Robert McChesney

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Lekimball's avatar

"The Social Dilemma" was fascinating and nobody would argue with most of it. Toward the end, though, you realize their solution is regulating content so that things that are "objectively true, like climate change and race issues" are represented right. My solution is to delete Facebook once my son gets my pictures off it for me. And I don't Twitter. I may try to promote my work on Parler. It's all conservatives right now, though they want liberals who care about free expression. My other solution is to recommend to every conservative to not put their children in public universities until they can prove that all ideas are allowed and that it functions as universities are supposed to. Stop paying until they stop censoring conservatives. This is the biggest issue of our times.

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Peter L Mattisson's avatar

When the crowd is yelling "lock her up," referring to Whitmer, Trump says: "lock them all up." It's not demonstrably untrue.

https://youtu.be/1Z70ReLhMgU

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

Still, the tone of her questioning and the direct quote attributed was disingenuous.

I hate the guy, but I don't want to see anyone get this kind of bullshit treatment by the press -who are directly in cahoots with a network of wrongdoers that have been scamming roughshod for decades.

We're talking war crimes, bribes, kickbacks, murders, you name it.

If Darth Vader walked out on stage and revealed that they had been pulling the strings for 60 years and they've finished their Death Star, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

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Kelly Green's avatar

Glad you posted the video, so that people can see that when the crowd said that, Trump shook his head and did a dismissive hand wave. And that Stahl's statement is demonstrably untrue:

Donald Trump:

Why would I lock her up? No, but why didn’t you say, “You don’t want to lock up the Governor?” Of course I don’t want to lock her up. Why would I lock her up?

Lesley Stahl:

Because you were in front of a rally of people saying it, encouraging it.

Your video link clearly demonstrates that to be untrue.

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Kelly Green's avatar

Here's another one, btw: Stahl quoted Trump as saying something begging suburban women to like him, because that's how the media reported his statements from the video below. Watching the video makes it clear that she'd not herself watched it, but relied on those media reports. She literally misquotes him to make it sound worse, adding "please, please" at the end of his phrasing, making it demonstrably untrue.

Trump says something demonstrably untrue in this also, as Gary will appreciate me pointing out. He claims 52% of women voted for him when that was the number for white women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebsapm04flQ

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

"Hi sir, what kind of ice cream is that?"

"Um, vanilla."

*audience cheers until they pass out.

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Kelly Green's avatar

The whole way the interview was played up by the media was highly misleading, further making my point. But now media are happy to report that Trump "walked out" of the interview. He released the full tape for a reason. Go watch it and decide for yourself.

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

Yep, because he didn't "walk out" -he sat there for 45 min giving Stahl chance after chance to ask a question like a normal human being and she COULD NOT.

WOULD NOT.

Fuck these rats.

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Gary Hemminger's avatar

People selectively believe the rantings of their political opponents, but never the rantings of their political allies. Why is this the case?

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

Dude... I was a lifelong Democrat. After the Obama administration's god-awful foreign policy, and the free pass the banking industry received after orchestrating yet another market collapse and on TOP of all that the DNC/Clinton campaign/illegal spying and four years straight of bogus lying... I'll never vote D again. The fact that the media giants are all trying to smooth over Biden's greasy handiwork is enough for me to know that it's against my interests if he gets in office.

I won't vote R... but I won't vote D either.

They all work for enough common funding that I just can't.

I voted Libertarian -they don't have enough sway to make things worse and at this point that's all I want -for things to not get worse. Vote your conscience and feel good about that.

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Stxbuck's avatar

Truth......I’m voting Trump on Tuesday, but all I really want is common sense (which Trump has delivered in practice, if not theory/rhetoric).....my people left the USSR to escape Lysenkoism and collectivism......I won’t dishonor their memory/sacrifice-and my grandpa was 100% JFK in 1960......

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Kelly Green's avatar

Democrats are sorely disappointing. I had Hillary signs in my yard in 2008, how low they've gone since then...

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Kelly Green's avatar

You might want to reword that to make your point. Obviously people believe the rantings of their political allies. If you're trying to make some point that Trump is my political ally you should consider that the median person drawn to a Matt Taibbi substack is more likely anti-anti-Trump than pro-Trump.

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Gary Hemminger's avatar

Even if Trump did say she should be locked up (which I doubt he did), does anyone think that he means it?

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

Why not ask Biden why he used an overtly, (albeit archaic,) racist term when talking about black kids... He referred to "roaches" and quickly walked it back a little to smooth it over before anyone realized what was said.

Why not ask about that?

Why not ask about his REALLY inappropriate comments to female CHILDREN???

"I can't wait to see you dance in another few years."

Are you fucking serious???? I mean, these aren't minor slights -they're majorly WRONG. Yet, it gets smoothed over and explained away as if YOU the listener were mistaken.

Such bull shit. Burn it all down.

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Just Another Twatmonkey's avatar

"if we let the left socialist + media take over this country, it will be unrecognizable in a week."

Not so long ago I was on the side of people who felt this claim was somewhere between greatly exaggerated and a right-wing fever-dream. Now -- and I'm not even sure when I flipped, but sometime in the past two-plus years -- I'm on the side of people pointing at things like girls' and women's sports and hollering about how the damage is already here and expanding, like climate-change journalists pointing at this year's crazy output of wildfires.

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Turd_Ferguson's avatar

Yup. I used to laugh my ass off at idiots that made that claim. It's starting to not look so far fetched now. Just read any story that comes out of America's colleges now. Take just the fact that Amy Barret's former sorority tweeted a congratulations, and then had to retract it because it hurt peoples feelings because Amy Barret is suddenly an evil temptress who is out to kill all people of color and the LBGTQ community.

The freedom of speech thing, which has long been a bastion of leftism is now just shattered. It does remind me a great deal of the Moral Majority BS from my youth.

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Gary Hemminger's avatar

You are totally right about the Moral Majority analogy. I wrote the same thing in a comment to one of Matt's earlier articles. The left is now the Moral Majority. It isn't going to have a good ending for them. Most of the country hates this political correctness run amok stuff.

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Just Another Twatmonkey's avatar

The funniest part of this (or the only funny part) is that ACB was in a sorority at all. Must have been one happenin' place. That sounds like a comedy skit waiting to happen.

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ih8edjfkjr's avatar

Because you think she dressed like Gidget or the women in the Handmaid's Tale or something idiotic like that? See, this is the problem with the press selling stupidity. It makes the people that read it that aren't in on the game...well...stupid.

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Just Another Twatmonkey's avatar

Why would you think that I would think such a thing? I'm not reading any of these stories. I was just offering up the idea that the popular concept of a sorority is easy to parodize, and I would guess SNL has another shitty skit in the works about it, wherein ACB is doing inverted keg stands (probably not dressed as any of the characters you mention).

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

Nice attempt to backtrack. We saw your veiled bigotry though.

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

So anyone who is Catholic or religious has to fit your definition as being like Mike Pence?

I have relatives who are pro-choice but deeply religious. They even have a "pro-choice Catholic" bumper sticker.

But that's OK, please don't let us stop you from spreading your favorite stereotypes about people you don't know.

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

Yeah, we used to all get so mad at the reilgitards and their crusade to look in peoples' bedroom windows damning them for being gay and now people are doing the same -only under a different guise.

Cunts are still cunts. That's the moral of the story.

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Lekimball's avatar

Yes, well I was teaching English at Northern Michigan University the last ten years and I saw it coming like a freight train because I could see how they were brainwashing students with post structuralist and post colonial "literary theory" which is of course critical race theory. They have been "re-educating" people all along but the last ten years they have really made an alarming change in discourse. Most of the professors and my fellow literary writers admitted to being socialists. So it didn't surprise me. And yes, women's sports is the least of the idiot things they have in mind. :)

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Just Another Twatmonkey's avatar

I am casual or good friends with roughly eight to ten people who serve or have recently served on U.S. college faculties. All are liberal; in the past, I would have described most of them as leftist-socialist. This paragraph I'm replying to here could easily be substituted for any of their increasingly bilious observations with very little change in the granular details. Actually, two of them have probably been more fucked than you for a while because they are in social-science departments.

These "I was a professor and then the SJW train knocked me out of my shoes" are eerily like the "I was a professor and then I found myself drinking a gallon of gin a day [and lighting my own farts during lectures, etc]" openings of stories at 12-step meetings, with all of the somber overtones (at least in my head).

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Linda Arnold's avatar

I taught at Monmouth University but had to make a secret of my politics - since they were not far enough left. Funny how a "University" is no longer supposed to expose people to a universe of varied ideas.

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Just Another Twatmonkey's avatar

Yeah, "varied" in the same way the height of NBA players varies tremendously, from "tall as shit" at the short end to "holy fuck" at the other, compared to the at-large (or not) population. My friend (formerly in the Colorado system, now in Florida) says he thought he was among the most liberal non-incarcerated people he would ever know until he ventured into academia. Now, half of his anecdotes sound like sad attempts at Dennis Miller knock-offs.

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Lekimball's avatar

Yeah, there were a few middle of the road folks in the science department. They were shouted down. The president of the university tried to be neutral and was attacked so horribly by the leftists that he asked me and some of the science folks to come talk at a meeting about it. We told him he had already made his decision and it was the right one and if you gave them a platform, it would just end in disaster. He told me if they came after me for my stance (neutral) to come see him. They managed to get me out when my son had testicular cancer because I didn't file my self evaluation on time, but I didn't fight it because along with that, I have an adult son with Downs and I take care of my father full time who has Parkinson's, COPD and more. So I knew I didn't want the job. Universities are supposed to places of debate and the free exchange of ideas. Not anymore. Not to mention, their literary publications publish one opinion. After publishing me for years, they found out I was a Libertarian and unfriended and excommunicated me. Wouldn't even respond to an email or phone call. It's a scary world now.

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Lekimball's avatar

Sorry I didn't proofread the above carefully. :)

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Lekimball's avatar

Not really following your point here. Yes, the professors mostly are leftist socialists. Not following the last paragraph here.

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Just Another Twatmonkey's avatar

I'm drawing parallels between the laments I hear from professor types whose environment has gone to hell and the laments from 12-step speakers (real and imagined) about how everything was once good and became a shambles all around them. The fact that this is obviously exaggerated and the gratuitous details didn't help the clumsy comparison.

But I really have heard a series of similar and disturbing accounts like yours, made all the weirder by the fact that, early on, maybe 10 years ago, I was thinking they probably had little to worry about on this front, and even some of them figured they were overreacting.

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Lekimball's avatar

Ah, ok, I get it. :) Well, I suspect your friends have been replaced like I was. I was just an adjunct and easily removed. They didn't help me fill out a self evaluation on time when I was with my son downstate in the hospital (he had testicular cancer). So I lost my place in the queue and my seniority. I don't miss it. :)

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Jim Trageser's avatar

What they're teaching would have to be far more coherent than it is to actually qualify as a theory of anything ...

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Peter L Mattisson's avatar

Could you clarify what you mean by socialist? Please provide examples of how Joe Biden is promoting socialist policies? What policies?

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

Well, those folks might be "ok" with burning it all down and starting a Marxist revolution in their cities, but the vast majority of this country's citizens, (from ALL walks of life,) are not having it.

When push comes to shove, they'll end up losing.

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Lekimball's avatar

I hope you are right and hope that protests will stop them. But socialism and communism can happen slowly. Jordan Peterson talks about it. Starts with a change in the national conscience--people accepting more and more and that's what's been happening. We've let the left push this country way left since JFK who would be a staunch fiscal conservative today. And Obama opened the door for total disaster with Obamacare. He said himself it was a step toward single payer and once we have government run health care, open borders, this idiot climate change drivel (and again, I live off the grid and am a conservationist), we are doomed. It really doesn't take a revolution--people just think free stuff sounds great and they want to be loving and take care of everybody. In the whole world. As soon as the above happens, we will no longer have any control over our lives or government.

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Rev. Touché Irony's avatar

OK, I'll bite...what's with the "women's sports" dog-whistle? What has my bubble kept me from being exposed to?

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Just Another Twatmonkey's avatar

At the high-school level, various instances of boys competing on girls' teams unchallenged by the system out of fear of SJW reprisals until someone finally sues, as has happened in Connecticut and elsewhere. At the Olympic level is the Caster Semenya fiasco, related but different in that Semenya is intersex, known to have internal testes since 2009 but only recently ruled (for practical purposes) ineligible, after winning gold medals in the women's 800 meters in 2012 and 2016.

Apart from whatever anyone thinks of the merits of Semenya's inclusion, it seems nuts to me that the same feminists widely advocating for women's sports to be essentially coached and managed exclusively by women have also cheered on Semenya's long fight against the sport's governing body as a "women's rights" matter. This seems incoherent at best. Most of the MSM articles about Semenya, by the way, omit the fact that she has testes, and also go so far as to speculate that high testosterone doesn't really contribute to improved performance anyway (with the same people taking firm anti-doping stances elsewhere).

That's a start. And if it matters, I have never voted for a Republican in a national election in my life, and I have been a voter since 1988. Most lifelong liberal-leaning Dems my age feel no differently on this issue than the most rabid religious loons, even if the motivation of the latter is often rooted more in "those freaks" and general biblical nonsense than in biology or considerations of actual fairness toward the girls and women affected. (I have no problem with anyone identifying as whatever gender they choose, but for sports purposes, Semenya is male.)

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

Hilarious is that the US women's Olympic soccer team was soundly beaten by 15 yr old boys just prior to leaving for their Olympic engagements.

Sure, women and men have the same RIGHTS... but they're NOT the same.

Sorry anti-science cooks.... but you're all in there with flat-earthers now.

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Karl Humungus's avatar

Yeah, a lot of the bleeding edge trans issues are metaphysical, not science based. They ARE a different gender (NO TESTING! NO SCIENCE! NO QUESTIONS! Or you are a bigot who should never work or have a public voice), because their soul is a different gender than their body. So it requires a duality of being and an imperfect God falling asleep at the switch.

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Kelly Green's avatar

The craziness around the Brown University scientific paper on gender dysphoria is a good example of your point. They made Brown apologize for daring to do science.

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Just Another Twatmonkey's avatar

"an imperfect God falling asleep at the switch."

God was long ago diagnosed as narcoleptic. Every time either right-wing cross-waving loons or lefty agitators demand that a given super-offensive sociocultural issue be settled for all, God seems to don a sleepy-ass grin and peace out for a while, so that the dipshit wars can rage on unabated and unaffected by His holy input.

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Just Another Twatmonkey's avatar

In the case of Semenya, since she (I won't contest gender self-labeling for the same reasons I don't dissect astrology) was known to have internal testes since she was 18, in 2009, the governing bodies of the sport should have reacted like a computer and said "Sorry, ineligible" (except I guess a computer wouldn't bother with the apology).

Instead, what the world was faced with was, though no one phrased it as such, the equivalent a moderately talented adolescent male distance runner who was now periodically being asked to take testo-antagonists in order to keep competing as a female. This mollified both sides, at least for a while; the testo-antgonists weren't required in 2012 and 2016, when Semenya won Olympic gold medals in the 800 meters, but the people who thought the whole thing was bullshit from the start (which is most people, though you had to hunt a bit to find the testes information...double entendre, yes?) only saw what amounted to an inhumane half-measure.

Your comment about the soccer boys makes perfect sense because generally, the best women in the U.S. at a particular sport are usually about as good as the best freshman or sophomore boys, in events that can be quantized and excluding, to the extent possible, the effects of PEDs on elite women across all sports. Probably even chess.

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Todd Howman's avatar

I like how you slipped "nuts" in there...almost spit out my coffee!

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Just Another Twatmonkey's avatar

I swear it was unintentional. You can accuse me of many things, but good comic timing isn't one of them! But I do usually try, given that I really will be insane soon, or hoping to be, if I don't simply elect to laugh at as much of the world as I can see for as long as I can, as loudly as possible, while also providing for myself and avoiding non-elective institutionalization. That seems like a humble enough station to aim for.

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Jonk's avatar

Don't be surprised if someone proposes taxpayer funded Androgel for the testosterone challenged females. Just to make things more fair. lol

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Just Another Twatmonkey's avatar

There may be moles among us, so it's best to keep ideas like that under your hat. But it will ACTUALLY start with forced estradiol injections to combat toxic masculinity, known to afflict 100% of humans with Y chromosomes (with the exception of female 800-meter Olympians).

Naw, the "risk" is worth the laugh...Jesus Christ, you just have to.

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Linda Arnold's avatar

It is also about the future of young women. In Connecticut, two young women were likely college scholarship material until two person born with XY chromosomes out-ran them in the girl's state championship - they are the official champions, still. The young women did not get scholarships. I'm not sure if they were even able to go to college after that. Also, JK Rowling was "cancelled" because she objected to things like this, you can look it up.

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Kelly Green's avatar

Rachel McKinnon

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YoudBeALotCoolerIfYouDid's avatar

I share your frustration about the dishonesty in the mainstream media, but they are so incredibly far from joining the socialist party. This is readily apparent when you go back over the coverage (and sometimes complete lack thereof) of Bernie Sanders' campaigns, for instance. These media companies are owned by multi-billionaire capitalists with like minded interests. (Jeff Bezos for WaPo, Rupert Murdoch owns Fox, Bill Gates and GE own MSNBC, etc. Billionaires, by nature, abhor socialism.)

Are they often aligned with the Democratic Party? Absolutely. More broadly, they always toe the "establishment line," and aim to be good stewards of the corporate American empire/military industrial complex. This is why they hate Trump. Even when he's not carrying out anti-establishment policy in any genuine way, he's saying stuff out-loud that is rarely said, like the fact that corporate interests in the military industrial complex push a pro-war bias on our foreign policy consensus (and he's 100% correct).

I'm no fan of Trump, but as I moved further Left (I voted for Bernie in the primary) I began to see how biased the media is against Trump and even his supporters. But how is that possible? If the media "joined the socialist party," and I moved further Left, how did I uncover this bias against Trump?

It's simple: they share a similar bias *against* the Left. I started seeing all the lies about Bernie Sanders' supporters, that they were mainly white and male. I saw them hinting at this similarity between Bernie and Trump's base, knowing full well their viewers would get the hint that "Bernie Bros" must be racist. I saw how quick CNN was to publish a story about Bernie allegedly saying something sexist, and how the only sources for this story were his main political opponent's staffers. I saw them grill Bernie over praising Castro's literacy program by asking him why he praises dictators, when he was saying something Obama previously got a pass for.

All this made me rethink damn near everything the MSM has said about Trump, and by extension, what they haven't said about the Democratic Party (and Neocon, never-Trumper war-hawks like John Bolton). I can guarantee right now that whatever you're seeing on these channels that appears to be "far-Left" is all cultural or social. They'll promote BLM all day every day, cancel people for using the wrong terminology that was acceptable just yesterday, show their support for tearing down statues, etc. Whether people think it's good or terrible that they do these things, one thing is clear: these issues do not negatively impact their bottom line, in any way, shape, or form. It does not at all reshape the economy, which is the number one goal of socialists, agree with them or not.

When you see the MSM pulling this shit, just think of Nancy Pelosi kneeling in a Kente cloth while doing not a fucking thing about the issue for which she is showing her faux-solidarity.

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elaine's avatar

Some establishment reporter reproached Trump with not following Bolton's advice. "If I'd followed his advice we'd be in World War Six by now." He went on to say it was useful to walk into a negotiation with Bolton by his side "because they'd see that maniac coming in with me" and the talks went much more smoothly.

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YoudBeALotCoolerIfYouDid's avatar

Establishment media is practically owned by the military industrial complex and the national security state. I don't take anything they say about foreign policy seriously.

Unfortunately, though, a lot of people think that's just a conspiracy theory, and end up so woefully misinformed they think Bolton's biggest sin was not snitching on Trump sooner.

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Linda Arnold's avatar

"Billionaires, by nature, abhor socialism."? I would disagree. Witness the gifts of billions to support the far-left. I do not know why, except perhaps guilt and a type of innocence that being sheltered in a mansion might bring about. My observation is that most (not all) of the "very rich" are far enough left to be supportive of what would be considered socialist or near-socialist causes (BLM identifies itself as Marxist and look at the millions upon millions they have received).

A great book is "The Smear" by Sharyl Attkisson in which she names the names of those giving dark money, both left and right. Its about 95 percent left that get named, yet she is a mainstream CBS reporter without an axe to grind.

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YoudBeALotCoolerIfYouDid's avatar

Here's the question, though: are they giving this money to organizations who's number one goal is restructuring the economy? I'm guessing not. The founders of BLM are self-proclaimed Marxists, but the majority of the movement (which is largely decentralized) is centered around racial issues.

Billionaires aren't donating to promote socialism. Maybe there's some weird exception I don't know about, but they're donating to Leftist/Liberal causes because it gets those same people off their back, and just like corporate media and corporate Dems that co-opt these movements, they chose to focus on politically correct symbolism and virtue signalling that won't challenge their power, but will improve their image.

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Lekimball's avatar

Can't imagine voting for Bernie but at least you see what's happening with the media here. Bernie made an unholy alliance with Biden, but the media and corrupt Democratic machine have done the same media crap to Bernie.

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Mitch's avatar

“Mainstream always leaned left but they have abandoned any semblance of the truth and joined the socialist party.”

I’ll concede your point that they’ve “abandoned any semblance of the truth,” fine.

But trying to equate our corporate owned, mainstream media, as ‘socialist’ is a delusion. The US corporate news media is a perfect embodiment of capitalism!

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Dale Fitzgerald's avatar

Actually the media is a marriage of State Capitalism and Leftist ideology, properly termed “fascist”. Nothing free market about the legacy media, unlike SubStack.

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Smaack's avatar

True. What we are seeing is much more akin to fascism.

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Gary Hemminger's avatar

True, but they give cover to the socialists for now, hoping to keep them in line. But if Biden takes power and gets the Senate too, we will see Big Tech, Wall Street go to battle with their socialist allies. Remember what happened every time with communism. You can read about it in Gulag Archipelago ... the political egalitarians were killed (literally) by the political authoritarians. Their eventual breakup is a sure thing if they take power. They cannot exist side by side for long. Unless Big Tech and Wall Street figure out how to keep their socialist/progressive allies inline without ruining the economy and taking their wealth.

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Lekimball's avatar

Incredible we are even having this conversation in America. That tells you enough right there.

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

Excellent insights here.

Ugh... we're actually having a conversation about this sort of horse shit HERE on US soil.

WTF

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Lekimball's avatar

Really doesn't matter how it functions itself presently, does it, if it's an arm of the Democrat socialist party.

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Roman's avatar

If Democrats are socialists then I am a ballerina. They may use Stalinist propaganda methods, but they are not socialists. Even the avowed socialist Bernie is not a socialist by European standards. And leave Marx alone, he didn’t deal with stupid cultural wars.

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Lekimball's avatar

Right. Black Lives Matter just removed from their mission statement that they promoted Marxism and the demise of the nuclear family. Black Lives Matter is indistinguishable from the Democrat party now. But it's been coming a long time. Get your point shoes out.

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

Maybe Maoist is more apt here. Using students to ferret out dissent and pillory everyone who dares stand in the way of "progress" -that's a ChiCom tactic -not really a Marxist one.

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Lekimball's avatar

Maybe. I just say Marxist because that was actually on BLM platform website and because the left claims to be "socialists." But you may be right.

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Lucas Corso's avatar

I never saw "promoting marxism" as part of the BLM mission statement. I am aware that a couple of BLM organizers acknowledge being marxist. That said, BLM is about "black lives" not about "socialism, marxism, or communism." Beyond that, the Democratic Party is 100% a "free-market capitalist party." And have been for some time. They are the preferred party of Wall Street, after all. The socialism boogeyman is just a shadow in your closet.

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Lekimball's avatar

They took it off their website when people were starting to see it. It also advocated the dissolution of the nuclear family. I'm sure it was hurting the Democrat party and were persuaded to remove it. Part of their mission statement. Find out. And the Democrat party is NOT a free market capitalist party or they wouldn't have AOC, Bernie, and Beto in charge of parts of the administration. They expect to be paid--that's why they supported Biden. Bernie says that straight out. DReam on.

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Roman's avatar

A quote from Marx about nuclear family? And what is Marxism? Did Marx know about Marxism?

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Lekimball's avatar

No, I did NOT say there was a quote from Marx on the nuclear family. Though a case can be made that was for dismantling it from his writings. What I said was BLM both advocated Marxism AND the abolition of the nuclear family. The rest of your comment is gobbly-gook I suppose to make yourself look brilliant.

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Mitch's avatar

So you’re acknowledging my point that our mainstream media operates on Capitalistic principles - the same as any other large profit-driven corporation in America.

So they're simultaneously Socialist and Capitalist?

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MD Greene's avatar

They can be both. The "news" business model now is to throw out chum to people who already agree with you and who live to hate the other guys. It works most notably for the so-called MSM which has shifted from center left to far left.

The right is somewhat the same, but it did not hold lofty perches in the first place and so is playing catchup.

I don't pay much attention to either. I am not interested in propaganda or group affiliation. I am interested in actual news but am not willing to work that hard to find the little nuggets among the mounds of dross.

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Bea South's avatar

I am right with you MD. You put words to my feelings

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Lekimball's avatar

No. I'm saying how they operate right now is irrelevant because they are controlled by (and behaving like) the socialist left and they are suppressing news. And lots of it as Matt's article clearly illuminates. They do it because they back a globalist/socialist philosophy themselves (90% of the media are leftists or close--not to mention university professors and Hollywood--the biggest purveyors of [bad]information) -- and because mostly the people who have opposed Trump have been DC establishment swamp creatures and that includes much of mainstream media, though they may regret it soon enough.

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Mitch's avatar

What exactly do you mean when you say our mainstream media ‘backs a globalist/socialist philosophy‘?

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Lekimball's avatar

Oh for God's sake. They are all climate change people (and I don't mean conservationists--I live off the grid with solar power and batteries and more)--climate change which is THE political THEORY by which they can control everything we do--that and government run healthcare. Oh, and maybe a virus will help, too. They love global ideologues like George Soros and Bill Gates. Mostly they love establishment Washington they have controlled for all this time and don't want some outsider like Trump messing it up. It would take days to give all the examples of how the media is on board with globalists as well as socialists. This is too obvious to even go on with.

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

Ah, so it has to be either or.

It doesn't really. They can be capitalist cunts who would love to be cozy with a crummy operation modeled after the CCP or USSR.

ALL of the hallmark signs are there.

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Stxbuck's avatar

They need to make $$$$ and draw salaries for themselves-people had to do that in the USSR too. Socialism just means the govt is signing your paycheck, to a greater or a lesser degree. Capitalism just means people pay you for stuff w/out govt acting as competition.

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Mitch's avatar

But a country can have public broadcasting programs (public sector media) without it being state media (state controlled). Two separate things. State media is editorially controlled by the state, while media in the public sector has editorial freedom.

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Stxbuck's avatar

Yes, doing editorial favors for your political cronies is different than Pravda vs. the samizdat.

The neo-lib Ds aren’t anti-capitalism. They are anti-1st amendment, anti-fiscal restraint, anti-showing any kind of cojones to China,etc, etc.

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Gary Hemminger's avatar

No, the capitalists are just trying to appease the socialists for now. Trump is too dangerous for the capitalists. the question is can the capitalists take power and keep the socialists in check. Not sure about that. We will see.

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MD Greene's avatar

Interesting. When the current publisher of the NYT retires this year, his record will include several changes of editor-in-chief (two disastrous including the current one, by my reckoning) and bringing aboard a Mexican corrupticrat as its largest shareholder. So your theory is that the Sulzbergers want to be the noblesse-obligish oligarchs/feudal lords the alligator eats last?

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Trollificus's avatar

The "capitalists" just want to be "capitalistic" with a huge powerful government they can bribe to ensure they stay on top, and to regulate/legislate in a way that guarantees their profits.

That's probably as close to what most conservatives view as "capitalism" as it is to what lefties view as "socialism".

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romanmoment's avatar

Not socialist, just severely biased.

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Lekimball's avatar

It's a process. Nations don't just suddenly become socialist or communist. The first thing totalitarians do is control the media. They've been doing that for a long time but now they don't even pretend to be objective anymore. Big companies can want socialism or globalism for their own power and that's what's happening presently. Wall Street money is going to Biden, not Trump. It's a process. If we don't stand up to it, we'll be sorry.

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

Don't forget: you can vote your way IN to it, but you have to shoot your way out.

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Lucas Corso's avatar

Wall Street and mega-corporations don't want "socialism." The idea that Joe, the Senator from MBNA, Biden is a "socialist" is fall-on-the-ground-laughing hilarious.

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Lekimball's avatar

They want globalism. They are fine with Democrats and they don't care about the US, like Democrat politicians don't.

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Trollificus's avatar

Bullshit. It's some kind of corporate socialism, or kleptocracy; it's sure as HELL not the "capitalism" that's based on free markets and free people making decisions in their own best interests (including altruistic ones). Sorry you're tasked with defending the good reputation of socialism. Must be a lot of work.

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

Oh, so you don't believe the Marxists would still rely on their corrupt media friends once they got into power? Seems to me that anyone who mattered in those circles would have nothing to fear in such a restructuring.

It's conjecture, sure, but man... have you read anything in The Green New Deal?

It's unreal. It would take the kind of tinpot authoritarian dictatorship the modern day press looks like they serve already. All the need is an actual dictator now!

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Kathleen McCook's avatar

I didn't watch much TV before COVID and have watched a good bit since and really amazed at the celebrity-Democratic Party love fest. Parks and Rec ended with guest shots by President Biden and Dr. Jill Biden. I never realized the convergence before COVID.

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Antipodean's avatar

Kathleen, I just finished reading that William Boyd book you mentioned a while back... https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/72148.Restless

Fascinating. The "manipulate reality" game has been played a long time, it appears!! 😀

Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

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Kathleen McCook's avatar

O, thank you for telling me. Boyd's entire output is quite remarkable. All different books, quite a few made into films..yets he is not that well known.

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Lekimball's avatar

Well, been obvious to me for a while but nothing like it's been in the last four years. :) Good you started watching!

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Karl Humungus's avatar

The 'left' as represented by the Democrats and MSNBC has nothing to do with actual socialism and the vast majority of leftist citizens in this country. We want freedom of speech. We want M4A. All this identity politics, pc shit only serves to take attention away from real problems we need to solve. The Democrats use it because they have nothing real to offer. Biden is just Trump without the tweets. In any other nation and time, Biden would be a conservative.

Look at the author of the story you're reading. Taibbi is hardly a rabid Trump supporter. He's a critic of corruption and the co-opting of the media. He hosts a podcast with a bona fide progressive who also thinks Biden and the Democrats suck.

Here's a hint. Are all conservatives raging racists? Is everyone who voted for Trump a fascist? How does it make you feel when the Liberal branch of the media only shows neo-nazis as Trump voters? It's the same here on the actual left: they show some authoritarian "activists" who want to burn books that give them the bad feels, and that's us.

All those assholes you see on TV calling you a fascist, or trying to repeal the bill of rights because sad teens exist; they're all rich. And they keep us fighting over nonsense and filling their coffers by stoking fear of slightly different political beliefs because fear keeps you coming back to look at their ads.

Once they've squeezed every last ounce of profit from this country by obscuring the common plight of the vast majority of us under constantly shifting identarian doggerel, once this nation is teetering on the brink of collapse and they all have their luxury bunkers stocked, all this bullshit will fade away.

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Lekimball's avatar

p.s. They were all for this violence until it started polling badly.

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Lekimball's avatar

Biden signed up the far left to head up stuff in his administration. They said nothing for two months while BLM burned up our cities and killed black policemen. They have totally embraced BLM who stated (until a week or two ago) that they were Marxists and against the nuclear family. ALL the Democrats in the primary raised their hands saying they wanted health care for ILLEGAL aliens. They want single payer health, even though Biden is just adding a public option which won't work so they'll do that next. They want free education for everybody, the Green New Deal. Biden says he's for it, then he's not. He's against fracking, then he is. This is plenty of socialist evidence. That does not compare to the few white supremacists that NOBODY, including DONALD Trump has anything to do with. You better look at your own platform. He has AOC, Beto, and Bernie in charge of stuff. Again, socialism or communism don't happen over night. It's sold to people in little bites until it's palatable and no going back. First thing is to control the media. Right, nobody says Matt is a Trump person. We ALL know that. Duh. Which is why the censorship issues and journalism are even more important--that he's talking about them. I don't see how he separates that from the Democratic party. He doesn't explain that much. It's the Democrats doing it. He just hasn't realized what's at stake here.

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Susan Russell's avatar

They're conformists. Face it, we're not talking Mensa material here. I sometimes think that a barely par intelligence is a requisite for the job. The last one who knew anything about American history was Chris Matthews. And, the irony is rich, they are materialistic as all get out- second homes in the Hamptons or Vineyard. De rigueur Vuitton satchels. Range Rovers. I see them in Nantucket. Most are solidly middle class who think they've made it big. That's the travesty of all this. They really are useful idiots.

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Liz Burton's avatar

Maybe you need to stop writing for a bit and do some reading, because the Democrats have never been "socialist" in their entire 250-year history, and the mainstream media are owned by 5 mega-corporations whose hatred for anything that even looks like socialism is glaringly evident to anyone able to step outside their ideological bubble long enough to see reality.

It's precisely that kind of "any media not Fox are flaming socialists" nonsense that allows the kind of corruption of journalistic integrity outlined above to not only exist but flourish. It also allows people to cling to their confirmation bias of choice by giving them a specious excuse for rejecting some reported news. The go-to reason people used with regard to the Hunter Biden story? "It's the NY Post."

Matt is right—not one soul on the team determined to erase the Post story has stated that the emails are fake, which in the journalism I worked would have been right of the top of the question list. The goal is clearly to kill the messenger, not prove the validity of the message.

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Kelly Green's avatar

You seem to have read "If we let the left socialist + media take over this country" as "media = left socialists". I didn't take that away from what he said at all. I took the AND construction as inherently meaning that they were different things, by the implication that needed to act in concert.

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Kelly Green's avatar

*that they needed to

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Gerip's avatar

After what happened to Bernie Sanders, the only democratic socialist in this basket of mostly deplorables, how can you say that the media and Democratic party are joining socialism? Quite the opposite is happening.

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Lekimball's avatar

They are being moved far left. Biden had to "sell the soul of America" and get all the socialists endorsement to get in there. He will have to pay up. And the middle of the road Democrats are all old and on their way out. So if you're rooting for socialism, and they get in, you will be happy.

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Lucas Corso's avatar

180 degrees wrong.

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Lekimball's avatar

I know you are.

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Lucas Corso's avatar

Clever.

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Dos Chihuahuas's avatar

Not sure how you can connect the press with socialism when mainstream media used the same tactics Taibbi just wrote about to destroy the Sanders campaign. How do you reconcile that?

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Lekimball's avatar

Quite easily. If they had thought Sanders could have won back then, they would have supported socialism then. They didin't believe it would work. They found out it will work. They needed the far left so they are caving in to it. It's about power ultimately and the Democrats have moved so far left already, if it works, they are all for it. They are ultimately globalist socialists, they jsut didn't think they could sell that back then.

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Dos Chihuahuas's avatar

The DNC could care less about socialism. They exist only to serve the corporate elite. They'd rather have four more years of Trump, than a Sanders presidency. They made that abundantly clear. The DNC establishment absolutely hates Sanders and everything he stands for.

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Lekimball's avatar

please, wake up to the new world. They will take whatever gives them power and however they have to get it...

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Jordan's avatar

Here's hoping! The Democrats are just factually not socialists. This is kinda hilarious.

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JenK's avatar

I agree. Trump is temporary. There has now been a standard set with msm almost universally that is impossible to reverse.

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Tedder130's avatar

You say, "Mainstream always leaned left but they have abandoned any semblance of the truth and joined the socialist party". I am not familiar with that party, so please reply where it is located and how to join. Seriously, for educated people that have replied to this comment, the word 'socialism' is misused to just something that the commenter does not like.

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Lekimball's avatar

The word "socialism" is not misused. We don't yet have Russia under Stalin. That' s not how it happens. It happens slowly, first by controlling the media. Everybody discussing this sees the writing on the wall, so drop the semantics. The Democrats are moving so far left, it's ridiculous. And why don't you move somewhere you can sign up? Lots of places to go.

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Sue's avatar

I completely agree. Putin is right by saying “Information is power”.

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Lucas Corso's avatar

Joined "the socialist party?" Is that a joke? MSM has consistently dumped on democratic socialists, and the supposedly "left-leaning" MSM is just doing dictation for the Dem party establishment. Socialism isn't in the mix, except as a distraction.

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Lekimball's avatar

Here is your problem. I assume you are a socialist. Yes, when they thought the power lay with moderate democrats, they've worked against them and against Sanders. But the democrats have a huge problem now. They have sold their soul to the socialists and they expect to be paid. No way they could win without the promises made to them. The media has gone with them and will. So you'll be happier soon.

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Lucas Corso's avatar

You assume wrongly. I’m not a socialist. And the party sold its soul to billionaires, corporations, and Wall Street. The party will continue to ably and eagerly serve capitalism. And the small number of people in the party who are actual progressives, or even socialists, will continue to be marginalized. Socialists have no power over Biden’s Democratic Party. Your thesis here is ludicrous. And the media, mostly owned by billionaires and corporations, will continue to prop up neoliberal centrism, and further marginalize the actual left.

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Lekimball's avatar

I'm not wrong and you sound like a socialist. And no my thesis is NOT wrong. I agree the media MIGHT try to swing things back to the middle, but not if the power lies elsewhere. Y ou watch.

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Lucas Corso's avatar

You are just wrong, bafflingly so. It’s actually funny. The Senator from MBNA is a socialist. Hilarious.

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Jim Trageser's avatar

After reading Mary Anastacia O'Grady's recent column in the Wall Street Journal pointing out that censorship in left-wing nations is almost always cheered on by the legacy press until they realize, too late (a la Robespierre or Trotsky), that it's a fire that consumes all in its path with no sense of loyalty, I'm no longer sure that there will be historians in the future to hold today's "journalists" to account for their failures.

What I am fairly sure of is that people in Beijing are having a good laugh at the our witch trials over "Russian" influence.

Take away its nukes, and Russia is Asia's Italy: A former imperial power living off its former glory and generating hard cash by pimping its history to foreign tourists.

Russia has a shrinking population, an economy that's downsizing even faster, and a government bureaucracy more ossified and corrupt than the Soviet regime it replaced. The only thing keeping China from simply marching north through Manchuria and taking the oil and gas fields in Sibera is the aforementioned nukes - and the knowledge that anti-Russian paranoia is a useful distraction in the West.

Russia is no strategic threat, and the Moscow bogeyman is a sad reflection on the intellect and courage of one of our two major political parties and its allies in the national media.

China is the threat - and we have the media studiously avoiding any mention of the China ties in the Hunter Biden scandal.

Notice that India is pivoting from its alliance with Russia to the U.S. India is under direct threat from Beijing - and is realizing that Moscow is basically useless in applying pressure to China. If anything, Russia is now China's puppet state - China's gas and oil purchases represent the single largest foreign cash infusion into Russia's coffers.

China is staking territorial claims throughout the South Pacific, claiming lands that belong to Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, the Philippines, Korea, Japan, Australia, New Guinea and more. It's military is now far greater than Russia's, and they're pouring billions into it every year and make no secret of their willingness to do whatever they want.

Russia is yesterday's threat; China is tomorrow's.

Be nice to have a media that actually cares to look into that - but the NYT, WaPo, etc., are more interested in growing their brand in China than in accurately or honestly reporting on it.

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memento mori's avatar

^^^ This! A thousand times this.

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Bazz's avatar

***Towering Matterhorn of bullshit***

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Alistair Penbroke's avatar

Ahaha, I came to the comments just to post this as well. It sounds trivial compared to the serious reporting Matt does but a phrase like "the first pebbles from the towering Matterhorn of bullshit that was the Steele dossier" just makes my day complete.

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Susan Russell's avatar

That was beautiful.

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Linda Arnold's avatar

I third that sentiment!!! - loved the phrase - what can be vulgar is appropriate in some cases, and I think it certainly is in this one.

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D Athas's avatar

"In other words, this is a story about media commentators citing intelligence sources who in turn are citing media commentators citing intelligence sources." Wait! That was exactly the same technique used to get the Steele Dossier circulated. There seems to be a pattern emerging and it seems to be by many of the same actors.

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Kelly Green's avatar

The first time around, it was so transparent to me that I thought it was all a joke that would easily be seen through. Now I find it frightening and discouraging.

But the light is there at the end of the tunnel. I fully and truly believe that you can only fool most of the people most of the time, and that we're nearing the tipping point. Every event moves us more in the direction of most of society completely losing their faith in the press.

Every time I get discouraged, a new long term acquaintance who is liberal tells me why they are starting to doubt... now if I could just red pill my father in law, that would give me real confidence. Mother in law red pilled herself by watching Fox News for balance, and this was a woman who was 100% about Obama for 8 years.

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Don Bell's avatar

Watching Fox News for balance is like taking arsenic to cure your syphilis.

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Kelly Green's avatar

Your metaphor is terrible considering that millions take toxic poisons to cure cancer.

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Kelly Green's avatar

And considering that I have specifically (including in these comment pages) said that Trump isn't the disease or the symptom, he's the experimental chemotherapy the people have elected - with why they think the country is sick enough to warrant such a cure being the million dollar question.

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James B's avatar

Considering the extreme Democrat bias of every major TV network besides Fox, it would take an extreme Republican bias to achieve "balance". But having said that, Fox is not as right-biased as the rest of the networks are left-biased. They actively include people with left-wing views, even if they mostly disagree with them, but at least they are included.

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James B's avatar

I agree that there is light at the end of the tunnel (and it is not the train), and we have Trump -- more specifically, TDS -- to thank for it. TDS has driven the Democrat-media establishment so insane that they are now blatantly lying about easily verifiable facts, spreading obvious conspiracy theories ("It's the Russians! THE RUSSIANS!!!! Putin Putin Putin!"), and clearly exposing their double-standards by downplaying or outright censoring (well-sourced) news harmful to Biden after gleefully promoting (sketchily-sourced) news harmful to Trump.

It's so clear, obvious, and in our faces that it's almost impossible to ignore. Anyone with a little bit of an open mind can see all this going on and see that it is wrong. I do believe a reckoning is coming -- either the media companies will figure it out for themselves and clean house, or they'll just continue on wrecking their own credibility until no one watches them anymore and they go bankrupt.

That is, of course, assuming Trump wins (and Republicans at least hold the Senate), which I believe is very likely in spite of polls saying otherwise -- as in 2016, those polls are wrong. If Biden wins, they will have been validated, and nothing will change.

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YoudBeALotCoolerIfYouDid's avatar

This is also how we got lied into Iraq. Intelligence quietly leaked selective, sometimes fabricated information to the press, then those same intelligence officials cited the press, as if they had independently verified what they were reporting.

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Baelzar's avatar

I bet Putin thinks we're all insane. "I don't have to do a damned thing, and I get both credit and blame for all of it! Americans are crazy!"

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

haha China must be feeling ripped off right now. All that cash they've dumped here.

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memento mori's avatar

Oh I think China is licking its chops.

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Liz Burton's avatar

Putin says he's perfectly happy if Biden wins. Is that election interference, I wonder?

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Gary Hemminger's avatar

He is saying that because he thinks that by saying he likes Biden people will think the opposite that he really wants Trump, so vote Biden. Everything is down the rabbit hole now.

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Skeptic's avatar

I hope we are aren't learning that centrally controlled oligarchy is the more stable and sustainable political system.

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Rev. Touché Irony's avatar

If you're using longevity as your scorekeeper, dinosaurs have us mammals beat all ragged. Of course cockroaches put them to shame. Be nice if we could figure out how to make an unstable political system work better.

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KnoBrainer's avatar

Dude, this is off topic, but mammals have existed for 178 million yrs, and the dino run was only 165. Don't underestimate your brethren. You're on the money abut cockroaches

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Rev. Touché Irony's avatar

Damn, knew I should have led with "primates."

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KnoBrainer's avatar

I hate that we can't edit posts......this is as bad as twitter!

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Kelly Green's avatar

Once human-machine interfaces are through brain-implanted wires and warmaking is by robot, oligarchy will certainly be fully sustainable. History is not a steady move in one direction and the most successful countries in 100 years may be the ones that allow the most experimental biohacking innovation.

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Skeptic's avatar

You're an intelligent man, Matt. Do you really want the leftie crew to have total control over the federal government, including federal law enforcement and the intelligence agencies, in addition to their current domination of media, Big Tech, the universities, the entertainment industry, and other institutions that shape and filter information?

What could go wrong?

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Blissex's avatar

It is not a "leftie crew" but a hard-right globalist/neoliberal crew. Somewhat different from a hard-right nationalist/tradcon crew, but still hard right.

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Randall's avatar

You don’t have to worry about “leftie” being in charge of these institutions. These are neoliberals. They want to continue helping wealthy people figure out ways to get over on the rest of us, they just want to talk about social justice while they do it. So they can feel like they’re doing kind, important work. You don’t have anything to worry about, sleep well.

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YoudBeALotCoolerIfYouDid's avatar

Would this be the same "leftie crew" constantly pushing pro-war/pro-cold war propaganda, refusing to even attempt M4A, not doing the Green New Deal, saying that "nothing will fundamentally change," opting to increase police budgets instead of "defunding," smearing any actually Leftists like Sanders at the drop of a hat (until they fall in line with the moderates), being too cowardly to even legalize marijuana at a Federal level? Because that's who's running things in the Democratic Party. They just use the popularity of people like AOC to promote themselves, not because they want her or her like-minded colleagues calling any of the shots.

Please, let me know when the Leftie crew with any real power comes along.

Sincerely,

Part of the Leftie Crew

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Bearded Cuban's avatar

Last I checked Norway is a capitalist country, with a stock exchange, private businesses, private ownership of property....Which is way different that Venezuela or Cuba. Let us not confuse "social programs" for socialism.

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Rev. Touché Irony's avatar

It's frowned upon to go to "the dictionary" in a debate, but Merriam-Webster has a very cogent definition of socialism: "It refers to a system of social organization in which private property and the distribution of income are subject to social control." Of course, even in a Libertarian Capitalist system there's still some social control -- are there any pure anarchies in the world? So what's missing in the definition are four words at the end: "...for the greater good." And what's the greater good? In a functioning democracy, it's what the majority decides is the greater good. This ends today's lesson in 7th grade Civics. :-)

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KnoBrainer's avatar

I wish the US HAD a functioning democracy, instead of the electoral college, the Senate and an ossified oligarchy. Which works out in real time to a total absence of representational national government. The US is largely governed by a tiny conservative, white, rural minority, in cahoots with the corporate oligarchs who have no real social principles and are happy to run with the reactionary conservatives as long as they support shrunken, ineffective government, money treated as "speech" and endless tax breaks for the elites and corporations.

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Lekimball's avatar

Our founding fathers, you all want to get rid of, purposely made us a REPUBLIC, NOT a democracy, for several reasons. Here are a couple. So all the states would be equally represented --a president should have a cross broad appeal and if he/she can do that, she/he is the right person. We have no interest in being ruled by the coasts. But they also had a distrust of the easily manipulated masses (which democrats would like to invite from everywhere in the world) promised everything under the sun. It's so much easier to be a Democrat who just promises all kinds of shit he/she can't provide and talk about "love" (which always sounds exactly like hate), than to articulate freedom. Still it works somehow. Why escapes me. And I'm a Libertarian who used to consider herself a social liberal, fiscal conservative. Now social liberal really means socialism as well as men competing in women's sports, going into women's bathrooms, forcing people to use idiot pronouns, critical race theory, rewriting and re-interpreting classic literature--murdering full term babies until the moment of birth and even after -- instead of within the first trimester, and more idiot things. Today, I would not be called a social liberal even though I am for gay marriage and limited abortion. "Social liberals" now claim our country is systemically racist and was founded on racism. John Adams gave speeches on the floor of congress about how it was going to have to go and how evil it was and he never owned slaves. And Jefferson and Washington remedied their personal situations and changed their positions just like Democrats' big hero Robert Byrd, ex-kkk member. Though articulating freedom seems to be very difficult for conservatives who are too practical and never play hardball.

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LAwoman's avatar

Amen!

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Money in politics is a very different issue from the electoral college. The EC makes sure presidential candidates have to care about New Hampshire and Iowa as well as New York and California. Smaller and lower population states joined the union on the condition that they have this protection from being swamped and disregarded. It helps assure presidential platforms consider interests and conditions across the whole country. Like most of the Framers' handiwork, it's well considered.

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Exactly. At the time of our founding, Virginia was the richest, most populous state. People in Rhode Island, among others, didn't want to be outvoted in every election by a bunch of slavers.

The point of the EC was to give swing states, and swing groups, a chance to be heard. When I look at our two parties -- each trying to hold power at all costs while fighting internal insurrections -- I wish that each would split in two and that other, smaller parties like the Greens and Libertarians were able to exercise some influence in policy discussions that matter to them.

It's a big country with a cacophony of viewpoints, and our political arrangements don't allow many of those voices to be heard. No wonder people are frustrated.

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The Citizens United ruling has allowed a flood of corporate money flowing into Congress. Congress doesn’t have to care what their constituents want. They just keep their corporate sugar daddies happy.

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

BINGO!!!!!

No, she'd rather blame some secret coven of white supremacists "in the country". Bah.

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Norway-probably due to a very low population and high ethic/social solidarity-is pretty much the only country in the world where the state run oil company is actually well run and used for the direct social benefit of the general population, as opposed to a slush fund for kleptocrats. Compare this to Nigeria, Angola, Eq. Guinea, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Venezuela,etc, etc.

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

I guess you missed the last 30 years of globalist expansionism then, eh?

You're talking like you just popped out of a time machine sent from 1890.

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"...in a functioning democracy..." emphasis deleted for ironic effect.

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Anyone who supports the EC has invalidated themselves as a fan of democracy. The winner take all, state by state aspect is the worst of the worst. National politicians simply ignore states that are clear majority red or blue! Everything about our Constitution needs to be revisited - the Executive has way too much power. The founders as apples hadn't fallen far from the monarch loving tree. It's patently ridiculous for a sparsely populated state like Wyoming to have the same number of Senators as CA, which is now the 5th largest economy in the world. In the modern era, to have an uber-powerful chief executive who lost the popular vote by 3,000,000 do everything he can to become a neo-fascist tyrant is deadly to any cohesiveness in this country. Here's to looking forward to unpacking the reactionary SCOTUS by adding 4 in the very near future!

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Yep, well our founders were smarter than you are, thank heavens. A simple Democracy has more room for tyranny because they are too easily manipulated. Especially if we have open borders. This is much more complex. No, I don't think you'll be getting your justices. Our supreme court is not supposed to make laws. That is why we have AMENDMENTS to this constitution and why we have congress. They amended the constitution to allow black men and then women to vote. That's all that had to do with Roe V Wade. It was clearly not something intended in the constitution. Democrats politicized the court with activist judges and that decision alone tore this country apart. I doubt she will overturn it anyway, but it needs to be reined in to first trimester which is where the majority of people want it, even those for it. This late term thing until the moment of birth ( except for the physical life of the mother) is ridiculous. You wouldn't do that to a dog. I doubt you'll get your packing. But you can hope. Oh, and it takes 2/3 of the house and senate to lose the electoral college so I doubt that's coming, either.

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Skeptic's avatar

"do everything he can to become a neo-fascist tyrant"

Care to offer some examples? Please be specific.

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“ Last I checked Norway is a capitalist country, with a stock exchange, private businesses, private ownership of property....Which is way different that Venezuela or Cuba.”

Venezuela has both a stock exchange and private property. It is also “way different” than Cuba.

If you are not yet another troll you really should inform yourself before throwing out platitudes.

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Exactly. A highly taxed welfare state, the Scandinavian countries, is not the same thing as a nation with state ownership of industries or a massive regulatory regime. In some important ways, Sweden is seen as having freer markets/less regulatory interference than the United States.

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Bea South's avatar

So wait, you like “the U.S. empire” or you don’t like it?

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Baelzar's avatar

You must love fossil fuels, considering they're a cornerstone of your country's wealth. Our lefties DETEST all fossil fuels, fishing, timber....basically your entire economy. Yet they just lurve lurve lurve to hold Norway up as an example of socialized living.

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Rev. Touché Irony's avatar

It's not irrational to view fossil fuels as a necessary evil, and therefore to work to eliminate their position as the basis of the economy. Since they are finite and damaging to the earth, you're going to have to abandon them some day anyway, so why not be an adult and plan for it?

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Baelzar's avatar

By setting arbitrary deadlines and controls, before the technology exists to replace them? That's the current Green New Deal. Costs? Don't matter! You call that being an adult, do you?

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Rev. Touché Irony's avatar

I've heard all those buildings will have tiny little windows. And ugly light bulbs.

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randall grass's avatar

what Norway has is a small population with large oil revenues....sorta like Saudi Arabia... so yeah, you're good... but then what happens when carbon-based fuels are banned? see how well things work without that big oil revenue...

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What happens, as I observed for myself in Norway, is that a society that has planned for decades for the exhaustion or prohibition of fossil fuels will switch to sustainable energy locally, and other economic bases nationally. I kinda wish I were Norwegian, but I'm not, so I do what I can to implement that plan here in the U.S.

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MD Greene's avatar

Not a fan of central planning. The US already has met its climate accord goals, and largely because families like mine have been systematically switching to LED light bulbs. Consider also that the average family car now is an SUV the size of my first apartment -- and that SUVs only were introduced after our central planners gave us CAFE standards to encourage people to drive smaller autos. I've only ever driven four-cylinder vehicles myself.

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Baelzar's avatar

Norway + Sweden + Denmark combined barely have the population of New York state. And are much more homogeneous in language, culture, race, religion, work ethic...there is no comparison.

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Michael's avatar

The difference which matters is policy orientation. In the Nordic nations, policy is oriented in the direction of the common good. Here, not. Would things necessarily be messier here? Of course. But that's no reason at all to not give things which have been demonstrated elsewhere to have a positive effect on societies a shot.

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There's no reason a pluralistic society can't have a participatory democracy. The problem is resisting the short term and planning for the long term. The huge size differential of the US vs. Scandinavia should make it easier, not harder, to implement social and economic programs. We simply have so many more resources.

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Baelzar's avatar

We have implemented trillions in social and economic programs. How much is enough? "More" is always the answer.

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Sorry, thought you were being serious. Good joke, ha ha! Skål!

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Skeptic's avatar

I lived in a social democratic country in Europe for 5 years.. It was lovely. I had a chance to visit your country, including Gerainger Fjord, possibly the most beautiful sight I've ever seen, and your people are happy and lovely. But for Europe to be Europe, America has to be America.

Have you not noticed where virtually all of the most important innovation for humanity has come from? Your lifestyle depends on the creativity unleashed by the open and unconstrained American system. Telephones. Mass production of automobiles. Televisions. Moon landing. Smart phones. Polio vaccine. Siemens makes some very nice MRI machines, but where were they invented? 3D printing. Enhanced agriculture for higher yields. There are very good reasons why Elon Musk is here rather than Canada or Europe.

For the world to feed itself and live well with ever increasing population, it needs American innovation. Norway is generous with foreign aid, but American innovation is much more important for helping the developing world. Social democracy does not produce adequate innovation.

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Raymond, I appreciate your thoughtful answer. Here's what I think: We have to be careful with them, but AI and other new technologies create the potential for a massive, massive drop in the cost of living. Ironically, unconstrained capitalism may create the conditions where most of the world's people can "hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic.”

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Luau's avatar

You can afford to be flippant. But even Skeptic is understating the amount of underwriting that America does. A core question for you to answer: What allows global shipping? We didn't always have it, and when we did, it didn't look like it does now. What caused merchant ships to become massive floating skyscrapers, when they used to be relatively small but very fast?

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The so-called "social democracy" of postwar Western Europe was largely underwritten by American taxpayers, who provided a nuclear shield that kept the USSR at bay. While the Euros crowed about providing health care and education to their kids, and many of them condemned the U.S. military, they did all this knowing that they could spend almost nothing on their own defense, thanks to the American taxpayer. The free defense Western Europe received courtesy of the Americans is the largest invisible welfare in all of history.

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lol - nothing simplistic about pointing out that Western Europe received billions of dollars of unacknowledged, invisible welfare in the form of free protection from the Soviets and now Russians - on top of the Marshall Plan. No member of NATO has spent their agreed-upon defense share in decades - knowing they could slough it off and the Americans would still be there to keep them safe. So they spent money on education, healthcare, etc. All very good things - but what grates Americans is having European leaders crow about their moral superiority compared to the Americans. "Oh, look, we're so much better than America - we invest in education and healthcare instead of weapons!" Maybe we'd have those things, too, if we weren't paying for Europe's defense at a very disproportionate share.

And, no, Europe never needed atomic weapons - because theycould hide behind America's nukes while condemning us for having them; the best of both worlds, no?

Trump has forced Europe to face the fact that they have not been paying for their own defense in a very long time - that is why Sweden, for instance, has cut its social spending to beef up its military, because if Trump pulls American troops home, then Europe will have to defend itself from Putin - who's already invaded Georgia and Ukraine, and doesn't seem to care about treaties. The only European countries paying for their own defense have been the Baltic states and Poland, who understand very clearly the threat they face - and of course the Swiss who are, after all, well, Swiss.

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Venezuela didn't collapse because it was attacked by the "US Empire", it collapsed because oil prices dipped below $100/bbl and the government was run so poorly it couldn't fund itself. Now, in deference to the capitalists, Maduro ran that country into the ground explicitly as a result of his socialist outlook, but in deference to your position, social programs do work.

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Via sanctions? Yes, absolutely. The human costs have been high, but ultimately those sanctions merely amplified and accelerated the collapse, they did not start it. And nations do not have any autonomy, bar that which they can secure for themselves; states exist in anarchy. Read your Thucydides for more information.

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Spent some time in Norway. Lovely place. Imagine...sometime back, a movement to eliminate the world's dependence on oil. There go the petro dollars that have funded all of the social programs.

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Regarding taxes...I think this is one of the misunderstood aspects of American tax policy regarding health care. Taxes in many European countries must be higher to account for health care. Americans fear "socialized" medicine and trust "insurance companies" - an interesting trade off to say the least.

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Rev. Touché Irony's avatar

One of my many hobbyhorses is why exactly is it that health care is provided by my employer? Sure, I can understand the Puritan-based rationale for this, but it's stupid. The company I work for is not in the health-care business and I don't want them to be, so why should they employ so many HR people to administer health-care benefits, and why should they spend so much company money on it? Move health-care to a different economic segment and remove the burden on the business. (When I worked for a startup, that was a huge decision for us to make, whether to provide a health plan, because it burdened our infant business so terribly. But my wife was pregnant and private plans were CRAZY expensive.) Let the company put the saved money into my direct compensation, and then tax me or require me to buy in to a health plan on a sliding scale. Now I can work anywhere I want and not worry about health care, which is provided by a structure EVERYONE buys into in some way, like "Medicare for all." I should delete this rant but I'm gonna send it anyway.

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

No, this is sound thinking.

The trouble is... you and I don't have trillions to wave around under the noses of legislators like the big insurance companies do. They even write laws FOR the politicians' offices.

Sounds like it's time for some anti-trust actions.

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Insurance companies like to insure the employees of a business because the employee pool represents a group of individuals which, with regard to health issues, is pretty much randomly selected. Thus, actuarial calculations are fairly accurate, premiums can bet set in a competitive market, and the propects of a reasonable profit remain good.

Employers like to provide its employees with health insurance benefits as this represents a means by which employees can be compensated without taxation. The taxes avoided by this arrangement include corporate income tax (21% currently), enmployee payroll tyax (7.6% from the employer and another 7.6% from the empoyee), and federal, state, and (in some cases) city income tax.

Employees like to have their employer provide health insurance beacuse of the tax issue mentioned above and if they were to acquire health insurance as an individual (i.e. absent the random pool aspect described above) with after tax income, the total cost of the premiums would be (are) gigantic.

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Agreed, Norway has managed its windfall nicely - they were an early innovator in Electric Vehicles (remember Think EV?). The US, now a net exporter of petroleum products due to fracking, with a reduced carbon foot print...is going to eliminate the same industry that has a.) reduced energy costs and carbon footprint b.) eliminated dependence on the unstable middle east for oil c.) while also increasing lower and middle class jobs? I'm all for clean air/water/recycling but keeping a balanced perspective on reality is helpful.

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Well, that's only because the USD fiat currency is tied directly to the oil market. Also, in part, the energy market alternatives, since most of the big oil producers have been transitioning in a scam operation that relies on burning natural gas and actual trees, (biomass,).

None of it will provide what the demand is. Not now, any way. Not in the foreseeable future, either. Why would the oil industry release the prey from it's talons when it's JUST started feasting again? (on fracked gas and oil -and giant state and federal subsidies!)

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randall grass's avatar

just to be clear, I truly hope that Norway will be ok when oil runs out and glad there are preparations for that time...

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The Dandy Highwayman's avatar

I'm jealous. Honestly, the population is just so high here and the GDP so... distractingly large that it's a slut fest of piggies.

So sad.

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Stxbuck's avatar

You are starting to think like an economist...

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VJ Hamm's avatar

" Bo Erickson of CBS, got raked over the coals by the most aggressive Heathers in the giant high school that is America"

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memento mori's avatar

I'm not sure how to put this but I find it ironic that the the US media has become what the Soviet media was in the USSR.

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ih8edjfkjr's avatar

Every journalist knows that the underlying documents published from the Hunter Biden laptop are real. They may be released without proper context, they almost certainly are omitting the more exculpatory materials, but ever journalist knows that the ecomms being released are authentic. And they are newsworthy. Based on the timing of the Pozharskyi emails regarding deliverables and the Boies Schiller emails regarding current status of UK and Ukraine investigations of Burisma, it is clear that the Bidens' claims that Shokin was not investigating Burisma and that Hunter's hiring had nothing to do with Ukrainian investigations of Burisma are just flatly false. It seems increasingly probable - not certain, but probable - that in fact Biden caused Shokin to be fired precisely because of his son's work for Burisma.

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Also know that every person who says "Hunter is not running for president" or "Fine, I definitely won't vote for Hunter, then" is an unserious person. These allegations are newsworthy because they aren't actually about Hunter, they are about his father. Nobody would care if Hunter was just a fuck up smoking meth, or hawked vitamin supplements that don't work, or even stole money from business partners. It's the perception that people know that the way to bribe Joe Biden is to pay his son.

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Missing from this essay, unless I'm thick and didn't see it, is discussion of the underlying incentives for journalistic malpractice. Unless you assume the journalistic and editorial professions are hopelessly, innately corrupt, then it's worth it to ask WHY this is happening.

We are living in an age where every faction has a kit for building "these machines" and once you've bought a tool, you tend to find reasons to use it. It's a shame that the Responsible National Media are one of the factions, because they really shouldn't be, or they should be a neutral and demilitarized faction whose purpose is to expose the others. But we're also living in an age where financial pressures embedded in the global economy has every industry under stress (except maybe search engine companies). The media need clicks or impressions or whatever, or they run a distinct risk of ceasing to exist altogether, or in a weakened and useless form.

I think most of your recent columns, documenting the madness and groupthink of current events, can be sourced to underlying stressors...a slow-rolling economic crisis (or crises) decades in the making, that's expressing itself in these culture wars. Matt, you did an outstanding job back in the aughts figuring out and explaining what was going on in the Great Recession. I'd love it if you'd return to that beat for a while, since I think it might explain and expose many reasons for the madness you're describing.

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Charlie Kilpatrick's avatar

One could argue that the "underlying incentives" issue is at the core of "Hate, Inc." You can't expect Matt to go into a detailed meta-analysis of media malpractice in every article, especially when it's been explored at length both in his book and other articles like:

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-post-objectivity-era

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-news-media-is-destroying-itself

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-new-york-times-is-no-longer-the

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Beyond's avatar

The journalistic and editorial professions are hopelessly, innately corrupt. That is why all of us pay to read Mr. Taibbi.

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Harold Delaney's avatar

It depends on the incentives. At least theoretically it's possible to engineer a system where "objectivity" is rewarded.

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Mostly disagreeable's avatar

Nature is that system, but the timescale is multigenerational.

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Turd_Ferguson's avatar

The incentive is pretty easy. We live in a world where basically all media (90%) is controlled by 6 companies. This is a massive deviance from what it was just 20 years ago. In addition to that board member cross membership is such that essentially only a handful of corporations dictate everything we consume. In addition, the majority or media personalities are running around like high school students trying to please the people higher on the money wheel from themselves in hopes of scoring the big contract. So they have pretty much zero integrity.

To assume they are not all in it together is ludicrous. The corporate and financial elite class have us over a barrel (literally as the only way to survive is to consume mass amounts of whiskey nightly), and are laughing all the way to the bank.

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Alistair Penbroke's avatar

Yes, we need more analysis of the underlying causes. Hate, Inc I think doesn't necessarily explain it because this phenomenon can be seen outside the media industry, with Twitter being today's clear example, and yet tech firms are economically the opposite of the media - long term massive expansion. There's no economic crisis there, they don't "chase clicks" - in fact they can lose money for decades and investors will just keep shovelling dollars into the furnace in case startup Whatever-ly turns into the next Facebook. Yet their staff have become as extreme and polarised as the NYT.

Note: this was NOT the case 10 years ago. I worked at Google in the early years and if anything it was strongly libertarian. Very much a case of "give the people access to information and step back" as a dominating attitude and culture. That culture is clearly lost now.

So the underlying issues are psychological and not to do with the economics of the media business.

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Harold Delaney's avatar

One common theory is that the new financial pressures you mention are due to having to optimize for views and clicks. So to go back to objectivity (if it ever existed), we need to come up with a better system to transfer cash to journalists. Is Substack an example of one?

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MD Greene's avatar

Groupthink

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DT's avatar

You're not wrong. We are in a long emergency caused by a decline of EROEI to the economy which is strangling capitalism as we know it. In the meantime we grow more and more dysfunctional.

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Mitch's avatar

I don’t understand all the confusion surrounding the argument he’s making here. Put aside for a moment where the laptop came from, if Biden’s campaign truly wanted this story to go away, they should either 1) Back up their current stance of dismissiveness and hostility by laying out precisely why the contents in some of the documents are false or 2) Concede that some of the material might be accurate, then answer questions about it.

The overwhelming response in the media to focus solely on the origins of the documents, instead of their accuracy, only helped this story linger.

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Blissex's avatar

«The overwhelming response in the media to focus solely on the origins of the documents, instead of their accuracy»

As M Taibbi points out, same with the Hillary/DNC emails and the Weiner laptop emails, where the entire focus was "russian interference".

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D Athas's avatar

The 2016 MSM response to the WikiLeaks emails releases was how horrible that hacked emails were shared...but little about the content. Of course, there wasn’t as concerted an effort to censor them then as we see now, but emphasis has too often been on how the information surfaced and far less on the information contained. Truth delivered through despicable means is still truth. One cannot close one’s eyes to truth no matter the messenger.

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Running Burning Man's avatar

"Therefore, by the transitive property of whatever"

Matt, this is just outstanding!

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"Because...and..." This is how we explain things to the four year old and she accepts it.

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Leah Geraghty's avatar

It is most likely that I would not agree with Mr. Taibbi on many domestic policies however I have been following his writings since the '"Rolling Stones "disgraceful and deceitful reporting on the UVA non-rape story. His non-emotional and rational insights into the failures of the "Stones" reporting was noteworthy. I trust his reporting.

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Deryl Robinson's avatar

I don't know anyone who believes any of the progressive corporate media bullshit anymore. They are rendering themselves irrelevant except as a carnival side show.

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Cordell's avatar

Lucky you. I know more people who drink the left media coolaid than the right. I think both sides of the media are trash and Taibbi is one of the few good viewpoints left in this hellish landscape.

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Kelly Green's avatar

The most fun part of all of this is watching so many people claim without evidence that this is Russian disinformation, only a short time after they have accused Trump of making nearly every claim he makes "without evidence". (They also claim he's making several claims he doesn't actually make, also "without evidence").

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«only a short time after they have accused Trump of making nearly every claim he makes "without evidence"»

As I keep repeating, that is based on a cognitive bias well known to propaganda professionals: that most people believe in hearsay, even if there is no evidence, if it is repeated several times by several (apparently independent) sources.

This cognitive bias was fairly reliable for gossip in a village: if one person gossiped "I saw Bill kiss Betty!" one could be skeptical, but if 5-10 different people said it, it was likely to be true. In latin it was called the "vox populi vox dei" principle.

It critically relies on the repeated sources being independent of each other, but propaganda campaigns either use explicit "talking point" memos, or arise spontaneously as propagandists on the same side repeat each other's "talking points" even without explicit memos.

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Norm Olsen's avatar

"propaganda campaigns . . . use explicit "talking point" memos" . That's the Democrat party standby: propaganda. Get it repeated enough times and the greatest lie can become truth.

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Mark Silbert's avatar

What a difference a year makes. Contrast the media's "kid glove" treatment of Biden now with this exhaustive article published in Politico on August 2 of 2019: Biden Inc.

Over his decades in office, ‘Middle-Class Joe’s’ family fortunes have closely tracked his political career.

By BEN SCHRECKINGER August 02, 2019

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/08/02/joe-biden-investigation-hunter-brother-hedge-fund-money-2020-campaign-227407

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