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Lucas Corso's avatar

I never saw "promoting marxism" as part of the BLM mission statement. I am aware that a couple of BLM organizers acknowledge being marxist. That said, BLM is about "black lives" not about "socialism, marxism, or communism." Beyond that, the Democratic Party is 100% a "free-market capitalist party." And have been for some time. They are the preferred party of Wall Street, after all. The socialism boogeyman is just a shadow in your closet.

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Lekimball's avatar

They took it off their website when people were starting to see it. It also advocated the dissolution of the nuclear family. I'm sure it was hurting the Democrat party and were persuaded to remove it. Part of their mission statement. Find out. And the Democrat party is NOT a free market capitalist party or they wouldn't have AOC, Bernie, and Beto in charge of parts of the administration. They expect to be paid--that's why they supported Biden. Bernie says that straight out. DReam on.

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Lucas Corso's avatar

That’s made up.

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Lucas Corso's avatar

That link says exactly what I wrote elsewhere. They are against the “requirement” of the nuclear family, and are more inclusive of a broader view of family in their community.

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Lekimball's avatar

they also claimed to be Marxists as well as that. Come on.

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Lucas Corso's avatar

Never part of a platform. Some organizers were marxists. But that has never been part of the agenda. You are mistaken or lying. And, more importantly— BLM is NOT the Dem Party. Biden/Harris serves Wall Street. They are the opposite of socialist. This whole discussion is dumb.

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Lekimball's avatar

elected. Sorry.

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Lekimball's avatar

I SAW it. That is what they are saying now. YOU are mistaken and if you think Biden got eelcgted without the far left YOU are dumb.

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Lekimball's avatar

the New York Post they are censoring is one of the oldest newspapers in this country. If you want to believe this propaganda you're being fed, go ahead, but that's what you're doing. the same with Biden's corruption that's being ommitted from the news instead of letting people evaluate it themselves.

You are deluding yourself if you don't question all this.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/blm-removes-website-language-blasting-nuclear-family-structure/

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Lucas Corso's avatar

I oppose censoring the Biden story. Biden is corrupt. He’s just not socialist.

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Lekimball's avatar

AND I'm glad to see you oppose that censorship. That's the most important thing we need as a country and I'll defend to the death your right to promote your opinions and that kind of freedom is seriously compromised now. We need more people like you and Matt, so even though we disagree we agree on the most important thing.

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Lekimball's avatar

Ah, we agree on some things! Biden sold his "soul of America" to the left or he wouldn't have picked Biden and made deals with Bernie, AOC, and Beto for support! You can't seriously not see that! Here is the problem democrats have. Trump has realigned the Republicans as Matt says into the worker party and they, if they stay to Trumpism, will attract minorities (provided they do it before Democrats give them all this shit they don't want to give up). If he'd had another term, he would have realigned it into a populist pro America party. The Democrats have a huge problem because they can't win without the socialists and if they give them their way, the Republican realignment willd do them in. The Republicans don't have that problem. They've expanded the party--which is what Matt is saying here. So this socialist aspect is playing in. Also, Joe has dementia and won't be strong enough to stand up to them. I take care of my Dad with Parkinson's dementia and I know exactly what it looks like. There are way too many forces pulling the strings here and if you don't agree with Matt about what's happened with the media and this Russia coup, I'm not sure why you're here. Now I know Matt doesn't really approve of Trump personally, but I think he sees this pretty clearly and how the corruption of this has gone.

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Lekimball's avatar

Woops, I meant wouldn't have picked Harris. Sorry!

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Lucas Corso's avatar

Harris is the darling of the establishment and rich donors. You are simply wrong about this socialist jag. It’s almost funny.

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Lekimball's avatar

And check your voting record. Harris voted to the left of everyone, even Sanders. Please.

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Lekimball's avatar

Again, even though I don't think Matt ties the Democrats into this journalistic fiasco, I'm not sure they can be separated right now, but if the other side were doing it, I'd be right here.

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Lekimball's avatar

AND still the point of this website and Matt's writing is that we are going to have to stand up to what is happening with Big Tech and journalism here. And we better get on the same page here. It is not about who wins here, it's about freedom.

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Lekimball's avatar

YOU are funny. It's not about the definitions of "socialism" Lucas, it's about selling it! Grow up. Harris might be the darling of the rich donors right now because there are a lot of different interests here. Big bussiness wants globalism and international business interests. The Democrats want power so they are in bed with both the socialists AND the worst part of business.

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Lekimball's avatar

It's NOT made up. LOOK IT UP. It was on there. Not that you can find an honest media anymore.

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Lucas Corso's avatar

I am familiar with BLM. Some organizers acknowledged Marxist pasts. “Marxism” was not part of the platform. And, again, BLM is NOT the Democratic Party.

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Lekimball's avatar

And let me end all these comments by saying that if what had gone on here with the media and deep state government was happening in reverse, I'd be opposing it like Matt is, but I might even vote the other way. We are fighting for freedom and free expression and honest journalism here. And we need to remember that as things move forward. That is the MOST important thing here.

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Lekimball's avatar

Ha. Reading back over my comments I punched out. I taught both Freshman English, argument, and am a creative writer, but I'm a creative writer by nature and publication. And I get sick of editing. We creative writers also break grammar rules. Not very well written. I consider this a conversation, not an essay. I don't write essays the way I do blogs or creative writing things. So I know my posts aren't tightened up or well written at times. Ha.

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Lekimball's avatar

But again, we are on this website for something bigger than who wins any particular election, right?

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Lekimball's avatar

Freedom of speech and civil libertarian issues that went horribly awry over this Russia collusion bullshit. Weaponized our justice dept. against private citizens. THOSE things are the most important. Not Trump. I tend to defend him as Matt does because it was so unjust, this last four years. I tend to lump Democrats in with the propaganda more than he does. I think there was a bigger "collusion" between Democrats and the media than he does. I think he's in denial.

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Lekimball's avatar

However, I at least am very happy to see anyone like you standing up to this fascism. Matt, too. I probablyl won't agree with him and I think it's very hard to separate the Democrats from this fascism and media crap like he tries to do, but I have confidence that people like him and you will stand up and say no when push comes to shove. So I don't want to be too hard on someone like you. We have one very important thing in common here.

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Lekimball's avatar

First of all, Lucas, the Democrats totally embraced BLM, as did half the idiot country, watched for MONTHS while they burned down our cities (with Antifa) and said not a fucking word in their convention until the polls moved. And I saw Marxism MYSELF on their platform. I researched it. I'm an adjunct professor and I know about research. I actually teach students how to research. So you are wrong. It might be gone or changed NOW, but it was there.

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Lucas Corso's avatar

Many Democrats supported BLM. Doesn’t mean they embrace every aspect of BLM’s founders or organizers. You are mistaken or lying when you say BLM had “Marxism” as a platform item. Never happened. Biden shit on progressives in taking the primary, and took the billionaire donor choice for VP. Modern Dems are ultra-capitalist. Socialists are few, and progressives are marginalized. Biden works for Wall Street, corporate boards, and big money. Your thesis is laughable.

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