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JollyLittlePerson's avatar

I know people who are still getting Covid booster shots. To them, it doesn't matter what Fauci says tomorrow, he will still be their hero. To them, anything against Fauci is a conspiracy theory cooked up by Trump.

LMG's avatar

There is a good chance that these folks taking multiple boosters will die from the effects. The evidence is just too clear of what that poison continues to do to people. (PS: I'm no Trump fan, but the worst abuses during Covid were committed by the Biden administration. Aren't y'all fed up with EVERYTHING being partisan in the US?)

Paul Harper's avatar

I knew all about COVID by March, 2020, and couldn't understand why fat people, especially older fat people were not forced to lose weight, get lots of sleep and exercise, and stay away from others. The rest of us could live normal lives. I feel bad for your friends.

Unfortunately for fat America, Canada, and the UK, that means something like half the population had to either shape up, die, or force the rest of us to cripple ourselves and our kids - all so that the tubbies could and (still can) keep stuffing their cake holes with Ding Dongs and Twinkies. Unlucky oldsters who could not were trapped together in hospices by science deniers such as Cuomo et al - perpetuated by corporate America inc who declared the virus an epidemic of those unwilling and/or too clever to fall for their scam. Pay-up, get stabbed, or be proscribed as un-persons. Therapeutics? Not a chance.

Tom Hanks described in March the "hell" that healthy oldsters with a reasonable BMI face once they've contracted the "fatal" man-made bug. https://www.instagram.com/p/B9nVasnBNF5/ Tom reported he and his over 50 bride experienced: "slight chills, some aches, and difficulty sleeping!!" OMG. Head for the Hills!

All literate people who, you know, read curiously and avoid proven piles of ass-wipe such as Matt's fav paper of record: DUMMIES at the NYT, were fully aware by June of 2020 of the Furin cleavage - thanks to Bret Weinstein. Time line of facts appended below.

Trying to discuss COVID rationally with the tubbies ever since has been like telling people in April, 2017 that the only evidence of Americans working with Russians to interfere with the 2016 US election was Hillary Clinton and her team. Shriek!!!!

Our kids payed the big price, of course, so that fat people could stay fat, and whine about Trump. Just like today! I never got the any of the crank injections, of course.

Get a life? Today? After all this? Not likely!

Ronda Ross's avatar

By March of 2021, the CDC knew 78% of those hospitalized or dead from Covid had weight issues. They never once advised people they could drastically reduce their chances of serious consequences, if they just lost weight, because it might have lowered the vaccination rate. Nor did the government ever offer assistance.Instead people were locked inside their homes and gained weight.

American citizens could not fly without proof of vaccination, but there was no such restrictions on the 10 million migrants that crossed the border. They boarded planes, at tax payer expense, completely unvaccinated unless they requested a shot.

If you flew out of or thru Texas anytime during Covid, there was a very good chance someone on your plane was unvaccinated, but they were not American citizens. No one in the Press ever said a word.

Candi Wease's avatar

You are an ignorant and disgusting animal.

Paul Harper's avatar

Here's Grok on Weinstein spreading the science:

"On June 8, 2020, he [Weinstein] posted a detailed Twitter thread quoting Alina Chan. He noted that SARS-CoV-2 has a short genetic sequence (the furin site) making it highly infectious in humans and able to infect many tissue types/jump species; that no closely related beta-coronavirus had been found with one; that a 2006 lab study experimentally inserted a furin site into SARS-CoV spike at essentially the same genomic location and saw enhanced cell-to-cell fusion; that natural insertions occur at that location in beta-CoVs but not a full furin site; and that if the pandemic virus was experimentally furin-enhanced, many of its troubling features (symptom range, transmissibility) would stem from gain-of-function work rather than natural properties of known wild SARS-related viruses. "@BretWeinstein

"The same day, he [Weinstein] promoted (and the next day published) a DarkHorse Podcast episode with bio-technologist Yuri Deigin on the SARS-CoV-2 lab-leak hypothesis. The episode description links directly to Deigin’s detailed Medium article analyzing the virus’s genealogy through a gain-of-function lens, which extensively covers the furin cleavage site as an anomalous feature." podcasts.apple.com

"He [Weinstein] had publicly discussed broader lab-origin/lab-leak/gain-of-function hypotheses for SARS-CoV-2 earlier (e.g., Twitter posts in late April–May 2020 listing possible scenarios including chimeric viruses from research, and DarkHorse livestreams such as one on May 16, 2020, about implications if it escaped a lab). A May 15, 2020, comment on a virology blog also referenced him favoring the lab hypothesis on DarkHorse. However, searchable public mentions specifically of the furin cleavage site (or equivalent) by him begin with the June 8, 2020, material; no earlier X posts or clear public records turn up in searches."

Facts known to the curious who understood that any paper that promoted Russiagate in 2016-2020 and suppressed the Biden laptop story might not be the best place to go for life-affecting information on science.

Angela's avatar

The “Fauci Ouchie,” the “Trust Fauci” lawns signs…it makes me want to barf! In a sane society, this man would be prosecuted and ridiculed by the public. I’m not holding my breath waiting for that to happen.

The Scratch's avatar

He should be prosecuted for his beagle death labs.

Bill Astore's avatar

"Gain of function" research -- what an Orwellian euphemism. It makes you wonder how much more "gain of function" we can stand until the next lab leak (or intentional act).

Ollo Gorog's avatar

It's called "gain of function" because that's what the process does genetically, but it should be called "loss of function" because that's the desired outcome once it's released.

People should be going bat-shit crazy about this. The seemingly dull response to the probability that world powers are actively building bio-weapons, frankly is astounding to me. I don't give a shit whether I'm killed by a bio-weapon, but if I was 30 or 40, or even 50 I certainly would! What the hell, people?

We were lucky! What was released was the "buffer" for the weapon. You know how drugs have buffers to move the drug into your bloodstream faster? Similar concept - covid-19 was to be the carrier of the actual deadly pathogen. Covid was chosen because (as the world now knows) it is AMAZINGLY contagious to humans. Use a pathogen that's crazy infectious but not very deadly as the "carrier" to get it to spread, but "gain" into covid another pathogen that once inside a human, usually kills. That's what they were doing.

There has yet to be any real condemnation towards two superpowers collaborating to build a bio-weapon. This is a very bad thing, Kids! If you were looking for the most likely scenario that will alter human existence quickly and completely, "gain of function" used to build a bio-weapon is a slam dunk!

Consider how stupidly they did this research: they went out into the deep boonies and harvested a deadly pathogen, then brought it back to downtown Wuhan to work on it... into the human stew that is Wuhan, China! (pop: ~14 million and quite dense). This level of hubris and stupidity should set off alarms bells in everyone!

Cycads's avatar

Matt, your reporter hat is your best hat. This is bound to be good.

Judith Cohen's avatar

Pretty much everyone I know here in Seattle has had 10 boosters!!!!

Science Does Not Care's avatar

And they are still frightened.

Judith Cohen's avatar

And viciously hostile if one questions it even a tiny bit

Matt L.'s avatar

Yes, I still run into people on West Coast urban areas still wearing masks.

Ollo Gorog's avatar

It's understandable, because the NY Times had to tell them that cucumbers were healthy. People are so nuts! I'm thinking of an old George Carlin bit where he played a newscaster and reported, "Today scientists determined that saliva causes cancer. However, only when swallowed in small amounts over a long period of time."

Patrick's avatar

None of this was politically motivated. (sarc)

Paul Harper's avatar

Almost none! True! There was a shit-ton of money to be made by insiders just like Oxy, Enron, adjustable rate mortgages, adjustable rate "health" plans, sundry wars ongoing across the globe.

These people couldn't care less about politics: Dem, DS, GOP, they're just the color on the front of the cereal box to ensure we don't read the fine print on the back. Power?

Power is something these people care very deeply about. Which is why they have lots of power and we have almost none - except to stay fit, stay informed, and ignore the bs, no matter the "authority".

A physician friend observed post-Covid that many who die of morbidity are self selecting for extinction - I replied "that's quite an opinion, from a doctor" His reply? That's "not an opinion, it's a clinical observation." He'd taken the first jab but kept mum about the fact he lost much of the use of his right arm after his first "booster." He's a top surgeon, btw.

Okee-dokey.

LibertyAffair's avatar

I don't know if I'll make the Live session Matt but I'm very interested in your take on the matter. Personally I've never had any doubt that there was a whole lot of lying going on from this crew. Rand Paul is doing a good job but eventually the incentives have to be identified... these men put their reputations on the line... there must have been some powerful incentives driving their action.

Ollo Gorog's avatar

Oh, Lord! The man who attained fame and fortune for dooming the human race! If there EVER was a nose I'd like to smash into a face, it's Anthony Fauci's! He should face a firing squad for his crimes!

Science Does Not Care's avatar

Plus one on punchable face.

Renee's avatar

I look forward to watching that vile little worm squirm. He needs to be charged with Crimes Against Humanity.

Ryan's avatar

What's so entertaining about this is how so many people still ask "why have people lost trust in institutions?"

Science Does Not Care's avatar

Point 1 (and few people have addressed this): it was The Most Important Election Year Ever, so everything most people did was slanted, and mostly directed to defeat Trump. If any pandemic policy or news could be spun to make Trump look bad, it was.

Point 2 (and related to point 1): we have a dominant effete elite class vying for control of our society and government and they crave both control and a comforting narrative imposed by that control. These people (and many others) find debate about ideas, especially those that challenge the narrative, VERY upsetting.

Point 3: Beyond narratives, for comfort many people like heroes/wise leaders/"experts" they can not just embrace but invest magical belief in. For them, Fauci became the face of comfort and assurance. Watching neighbors become emotional cripples, and then chant whatever Fauci quotes the media served up was very depressing.

Sally Newland's avatar

I think that I would never assign positive magical belief in any human who studies how to kill the human race through a bioweapon. No excuse would suffice.

Matt L.'s avatar

Tony has an opportunity to apologize tomorrow. However, there’s currently no platform on Polymarket for this potential. Following the Salem Witch Trials, only 1 of 9 leaders of that debacle, apologized. The rest blamed it on the trickery of Satan.

Jeff Childers (Coffee & Covid substack) broke this down (again) today. Including how the New York Times overnight, in the face of the Fauci diary drops, has tried to downplay/whitewash them for their readership.

Rob Thornton's avatar

What's the NYT saying?

Matt L.'s avatar

You can go to Coffee & Covid site for today’s drop if interested. Jeff gives several examples, in great detail.

One example is this diary entry that followed Feb 1 2020 teleconference Fauci convened of the world’s top virologists about whether the virus had been man built. This by itself doesn’t tell the entire narrative about NYT whitewash. There’s a lot more.

Fauci diary entry:

There was not total agreement about the likelihood of deliberate insertion. Ron Foucher said he was sure that this could occur naturally…

Also, Christian Drosten was with Ron; the rest felt that deliberate insertion was possible and given the fact that Dr. Zheng-Li Shi at University of Wuhan has been working for years on GOF in coronaviruses… could not let this go.

NYT article today:

“There was not total agreement” on the call, Dr. Fauci wrote in the diary. Of 11 scientists, not including Dr. Fauci, just two were convinced that the virus emerged naturally.

The others were not sure.”

If the NYT was an honest broker, they would have plainly informed its readers that 9 out of 11 of the planets leading virologists (that’s 80%!) concluded that it was possible someone built the virus.

What the NYT did today is to make the story about the reaction, not the document. Then it told its readers what to think, quote the harmless, paraphrase the harmful, bury the facts, and then leave readers feeling ‘warm’.

‘Warm’ because the NYT article last fact was recounting Dr. Fauci receiving the Presidential Medal of Honor from GW Bush and a quote from Tony that “my only failure was perfectionism”

Paul Harper's avatar

I couldn't care less what Fauci has/had to say. Here's what should be heard/read from Steven Quay, MD, PhD.

"“….Fifth, the genome of SARS-CoV-2 has seven features that would be expected to be found in a virus constructed in a laboratory and which are not found in viruses from nature. The statistical probability of finding each feature in nature can be determined and the combined probability that SARS2 came from nature is less than one in 1.2 billion…"

From: "Opening Statement of Steven Quay, MD, PhD

18 Jun 2024 “Origins of COVID-19: An Examination of Available Evidence”

Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs

Page 1 of 22

"Committee Chair Senator Peters, Ranking Member Senator Paul, Members of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, invited Senator committee participants, Ladies and Gentlemen."

"I am honored to participate in this forum entitled: “Origins of COVID-19: An Examination of Available Evidence.”

"I am a physician scientist, a medical doctor and organic chemist, and have a 50-year career that spans academic research in medicine, biotechnology, and scientific fraud investigation."

"As a young resident at the Harvard teaching institute, the Massachusetts General Hospital, I was responsible for uncovering a decade of fraudulent cancer research by my professor-advisor. Research that included Nobel Lauret David Baltimore. Nicholas Wade and William Broad, then of the New York Times, wrote a book about my investigative work entitled, Betrayers of the Truth. There were hearings in Congress at the time to examine scientific fraud involving NIH-funded research."

"In many ways, the last four years of my analysis of the origin of the SARS2 virus has felt like a return to that previous time, including the push back I received at the time from elite academics in the medical schools involved with the fraudulent research and the NIH, until the professor finally confessed to his misconduct."

"In academics I have over 390 publications, including thirty-two on the origin of COVID-19, that have been cited over 12,000 times, placing me in the top 1% of scientists worldwide. The paper I wrote for the State Department in late 2020, entitled, “A Bayesian analysis concludes beyond a reasonable doubt that SARS-CoV-2 is not a natural zoonosis but instead is laboratory derived,” has been viewed over 206,000 times. It is included in my background information for this hearing."

Can't upload the 22 page pdf. But Quay argues that the chances of all the markers of COVID coming from nature to be 1 in 1.2 billion. But, but, but Trump!!!

Enticing Clay's avatar

I am very much looking forward to this. Thank you Matt.

I encourage everyone to read the diary. The more eyes the better. Fauci was massively obsessed with fame and celebrity.

https://www.paul.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/2026.07.24_Tonys-Diary-Package.pdf

Here is a wonderful example of Fauci's brain in action.

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Senator Marco Rubio is acting like a real asshole. He is publicly calling me a liar about my statement in the NY Times about my assessments for the percent vaccinations needed for herd immunity. I had said that I modified my assessment of 70 to 75% to be 70 to 85% because we really did not know the precise number and I wanted to encourage people to get vaccinated to achieve herd immunity. Actually, I made that change by extrapolating the measles situation where measles vaccine is 98% effective whereas SARS-CoV-2 is 94-95% effective. Measles begins to lose herd immunity at around 89-90% of population vaccinated and so I brought up the SARS-CoV-2 to 85% with the range being 70 to 85%. For that he called me a “liar” Big hypocrite as he continues to kiss Trump’s ass – the world’s biggest liar.

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Well worth repeating this line.

"For that he called me a “liar” Big hypocrite as he continues to kiss Trump’s ass – the world’s biggest liar."

I also want to point out this data is coming from Paul not Trump.

quarkdetector's avatar

...Thank you for posting the link ... everyone should take the time to read this ... words alone cannot compete ... I'm only ~90 pages in and I am wordless ... how does one even begin ... take this diary entry ...

"April 5, 2020 – (Sunday) – Major news-outlets (Wash Post, NY Times) starting

to write detailed stories of how the USG (esp. Trump) dropped the ball in response

to COVID-19. CDC getting bashed (in some respects rightly so). Much Monday

morning quarterbacking. Thus far, I am coming out OK, but the response in

general in being bashed.

Global – 1,100,000/57000; USA – 311000/7700; Cases predicted to continue to

rise and deaths increase over next week"

... welp ... as long as Tony's doing well ...

Ollo Gorog's avatar

Thought question: If people like Fauci would've publicly stressed from the very beginning that covid could've (just could've, mind you) come from an accidental release by a government bio-weapons lab, what do you think The World's response would've been?

Matt L.'s avatar

The public’s reaction would be to curtail offshore gain-of-function research. Then there would be international lawsuits.

Fauci private diary entry dated Dec 1, 2020 stated that “school children were not the drivers of the outbreak”

This entry in reference to Dr. Scott Atlas who was let go from the White House Coronavirus Task Force that same day.

Scott had publicly stated the same (kids are not covid spreaders) back in Aug 2020, and he was subsequently torched over the ensuing 4-months for stating this truth, and by Dec 1, 2020 - driven out.

Kids in most blue States didn’t return to school until fall 2021…

Ollo Gorog's avatar

Even before all that, imo there would have been an IMMEDIATE and complete world-wide lockdown. All mass transportation would've been suspended, the city of Wuhan would have been the epicenter of a massive human tracking effort, and alerts across the world would've resembled the old "duck and cover" warnings, because a bio-weapon had possibly been released.

We cannot know whether it would have worked out any different, because people like Fauci doomed any possibility of that, but we can say that almost every human being on the planet was infected with covid because we listened to people like Fauci.

I don't mean to discount what happened to the kids. They suffered way more than they even know. Thank goodness kids are resilient that way, and maybe, just maybe one of those kids will grow up to be a superhero (anti-hero, lol) who will fling guys like Fauci into outer space!

NH boomer's avatar

It is my understanding that Obama administration had put a moratorium on this research and Fauci had found a loophole in the moratorium so he could get the research funded. It is unclear why it was so important to Fauci and he was willing to test the rules.

Robc's avatar

yep - even the DIA determined that the research was too dangerous to continue. So Fauci farmed it out through ngos, cut-outs and China research labs to bypass the ban. (possibly Ukrainian research labs as well but we'll probably never know)

Paul Harper's avatar

The law was created to allow the research to continue and to bamboozle the voters, few of whom care to know much more than the price of gas and what's on sale at Wallmart.

Paul Harper's avatar

Scott got the full reaming. Hey, these guys aren't playing fair. Boo-hoo. And guess what? These pricks could climb back in the drivers' seat as early as November if the US voters don't focus their minds on what's at stake.

And for those waiting for Big Daddy to ride to the rescue one more time?

Trump no longer gives a fuck. He's already on the links.

Lia's avatar

Excellent idea. Let's go Matt and Matt!!!

InsaneGeek's avatar

The world literally turned on Fauci's every word, mere suggestions and people would shame their neighbor. Fauci wielded that power like the Catholic Church did.