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Dave Slough's avatar

Oh please. Suspended by Twitter PE ~ 24 hrs

Twitter BE ~ permanent shadow ban

That is my message to you

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Michael D (Piketty)'s avatar

So you had you panties in a twist over Hunter Bidens lap top not being reported but you could care less about people being banned from twitter for criticizing Musk?

Got it, you are one of those hypocrites. Right?

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Frank Lee's avatar

Cognitive dissonance? Intellectual dishonesty? Blind and willful ignorance? Hyperbole? All of the above?

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feldspar's avatar

Frank gettin' all misfitty here.

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Michael D (Piketty)'s avatar

Blind and willful ignorance of what?

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RC's avatar

Twitter (or Musk himself) can ban you or me or anybody whose last name starts with B if they want. But US Government agencies forcing a company to do that same thing, is absolutely a different situation. One may have to grudgingly accept the first type, but certainly should be enraged about the second.

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Michael D (Piketty)'s avatar

RC

That is not what Musk was saying when he rationalized buying twitter. Same with his followers. So he lied and they lied.

Have you read Noam Chomsky's Manufactured Consent... Matt has interviewed Chomsky numerous times. Chomsky shows how the US government did the exact same thing with the NYT and WSJ and WAPO during Vitename, The Contra war and Iraq. Musks issue is nothing new. I'm not saying it is okay. But it is nothing new.

Twitter banning liberals is very different and proves Musk was LYING aboout why he wanted to buy the platform.

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RC's avatar

Ok well make yourself clear then: a) Musk lied; b) the US Government is *still* suppressing free expression of ordinary Americans on a massive scale, with the aid of incredible technology. Surely one is much more horrifying?

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Michael D (Piketty)'s avatar

RC

The government is not nor did they suppress free expression. Twitter is not the only media platform, not even close.

Twitter is doing what most Media does to get info / propaganda from the government. They cut a deal.

Musk Lied. That is what i am saying.

His fanboys could care less because they do not care about "free experssion" and never have. Musk and his fan boys only care that their message is heard.

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RC's avatar

IтАЩm not a fanboy, not on Twitter or any social media (unless you consider this SM) and will never own a Tesla. тАЬCutting a dealтАЭ implies relatively equal power status between parties. When CEOs get brought in front of Congress and are told theyтАЩre not doing enough, with the very real threat of new regulations and laws, thatтАЩs not cutting a deal; thatтАЩs coercion. The fact that there are other avenues to express yourself has nothing to do with the fact that the US govтАЩt is (and has for a long time) involved itself in steering public dialog and thought (re: Chomsky). Whether or not I use SM, this affects my life. ItтАЩs not right, and CEOs that lie about their intentions really donтАЩt affect me in the least, since their only goal is to make money.

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Michael D (Piketty)'s avatar

RC

Excellent points. Almost All of them.

CEO's that are paying lobbyists to control the Law Makers that they face in congress are not facing coercion. They are practicing political theater.

My issue is not with the reporting of the Twitter files. It is good to report on this. But reporting on it with out providing context, like the way FOX gets its daily talking points from Republican Law makers or people in the CIA or the way NTY and WaPo ignore defense issues that the CIA tells them to ignore, is Partisan Hackery.

Chomsky's book was not Partisan which is why it has stood the test of time. The twitter files are partisan hackery.

My issue is with the FACT that Musk and his fan boys were screaming for FREEDOM of Expression in justifying Musk buying the platform. Now that he owns it he is not increasing freedom of expression. he is merely shifting whow gets it and who does not.

And that his hypocrisy. But calling out musk maybe a dozen times on his hypocrisy is what got me banned form Twitter. So there is that.

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