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Midwest Molly's avatar

I agree with you 100%. What I get irritated by is when infection control guidance changes and people pounce and say the previous guidance was a lie. I hear it every day.

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NickO.'s avatar

A lot of it was a lie, though. Some of it was well-intentioned, but all the mask theatre was an obvious lie. No masks, one mask, then Fauci said it's good common sense to wear two masks. Now, maybe N95 masks. They knew in early 2020 the virus was aerosolized, but still spread the lies that it was widely spread by the saliva of asymptomatic carriers. They knew long ago that there was a good chance it escaped from a lab, but went back to the old standby of "misinformation". If we ever get a true accounting of this mess, we'll probably all be mortified.

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Gilbert Gélinas's avatar

Actually, on the topic of masks, Fauci admitted he lied

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Jonathan Weil's avatar

“Admitted” implies some semblance of contrition. The way I heard it, it was more like he bragged.

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marginalresponse's avatar

I think you're ignoring the role that previous guidance being provided with such certainty has in that formulation.

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JCA1's avatar

Like NickO says, it depends. Good faith mistakes that are proven wrong with more information? I agree with you.

But it’s looking more and more likely that these “mistakes” were either self-serving lies (lab leak) or widely embellished far beyond what the science would support (science behind masks, social distancing, etc.).

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Midwest Molly's avatar

The lab leak thing is interesting. I think it boils down a couple things: a knee jerk response to disbelieving everything Trump says, and the people in power realizing that a lot of people were going to look bad if the lab leak theory was investigated. the podcast "Lean Out" did a great podcast explaining all the players in the USA and Canada and China.

Bottom line is that China fucked up, millions are dead, economies have been ruined, and children's lives upended and harmed. Oh, and Americans can't stop screaming at each other for five minutes.

I don't listen to NPR anymore, ever since I heard one of the hosts of Morning Edition call the lab leak theory racist in 2020. So it's less "racist" for us all to hate Chinese people for eating weird stuff and having no hygiene standards? It never made any sense.

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memento mori's avatar

China fucked up and the U.S. taxpayer helped pay for it.

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S Black's avatar

In assisting the Wuhan lab with "gain of function" research.

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Mrs. McFarland's avatar

LOL!!thank you… when Covid first started and the wet market theory emerged , I said “ for starters, let’s take Bat off the menu”…. One of my SJW nieces said “ Auntie, that is so racist of you.. “

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MDM 2.0's avatar

I had doubts about the wet market story, that Venn Diagram of folks going to wet markets, and folks taking international flights ain’t got much of an intersection

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S Black's avatar

Jon Stewart's explanation was perfect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSfejgwbDQ8

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Oregoncharles's avatar

Yes, I really enjoyed that one. It was so obvious, right from the start, and so many people bought the propaganda.

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JCA1's avatar

No argument from me on any of that.

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Laura's avatar

I am so sorry you have to deal with that but please be patient. We have been openly lied to and most people are aware the heavy censorship is taking place which takes the trust level even lower. So now even average people assume lies versus emerging data. Can you blame them? I know you didn't make this problem but are on the receiving end of people's frustration with the crap we've been fed for 2 years.

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christopher opall's avatar

How about infection control guidance, all of which follows "the science", that is different country to country, region to region, state to state, rich economies to poor economies.

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Terri's avatar

How we knew they knew it was a lie at the jump was discovering a number of world leaders and local leaders NOT following the rules they put into place when they thought no one was looking. Grappling to discover what to do is understandable, but their duplicitous behavior spoke volumes.

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Gilbert Gélinas's avatar

That doesn't proove anything. They might have all been suicidal :)

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