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Narrative collapse is accelerating. The last shreds of MSM’s credibility are disintegrating, imploding like a house of cards. We have a unique window of opportunity to build golden bridges and deliver truth to many who are questioning in ways they weren’t before. Subvert the subversion of the empire of lies. We are the media now.

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Jul 16·edited Jul 16

I like your optimism; wish I could share it. The US intel community has not suddenly decided to play nice and support the interests of regular Americans. This is a strategic short term retreat.

The cockroaches did not suddenly become butterflies.

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Yup, we've seen this movie before.

Faced with a setback, the neocons are not going to throw up their hands and say "Well, I guess you guys won, fair and square!"

They retrench and regroup, for if they are good at nothing else, they are masters of bureaucratic infighting. If necessary, they cheat and cheat massively, for they also are nothing if not cynical. See "Yes, Minister" for examples.

Declaring victory prematurely is one reason why we are in the state that we are in.

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I will not declare victory over the neos (neocon and neolib alike) but they have at least been dealt a setback, even if temporary. The key is to make sure that Trump and company don't let it up and work toward meaningful change to reduce that neo influence.

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I suggest not holding back until the neocons get a wooden stake through the heart.

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Entire agencies have to be abolished - like the CDC, FBI, NIH and CIA. Don't try to "reform" them ... abolish them. (I might nuke them all "just to be sure.")

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I think it's regrettable to conflate CDC and NIH with the neocons of the security/intel/MICIMATT . No bureaucracy is perfect, as they reflect the foibles of their leadership. Yet I'd argue there's a world of difference between the charters / missions of public health agencies and that of the security state.

Oh, I know... the responses to the pandemic (including suppression of information about its likely origins and crafting of narratives that obscure rather than illuminate the truth) led to censorious efforts (at the very least). They left far to be desired. Yet, unless we want a world of "survival of only the fittest", "live and let die" (and unless there is a broad consensus about returning to that Medieval state), disease detection / prevention and health promotion seem to me essential services of any democratically-leaning governance.

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Yes, and EPA should be restructured, and restaffed, but not abolished.

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We could cut down drastically on carbon emissions by requiring them to travel in bat form instead of using private jets.

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A sort of Nazgûl with the fetid stench and everything

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I love that!

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Should the Zionist neocons be indicted for crimes against humanity?

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Cat, please, they should be placed in irons and delivered over bodily to the mercies of the nations and peoples that they tormented.

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I like that.

If there's no official justice, then mob justice it will have to be.

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Well put.

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Good news Ms. Cheney! You’ve won an all expense paid trip to Iraq! We’re going to airdrop you in with letters explaining who you are and where your family wealth is from… if you can survive for as long as the longest J6 victim of yours we’ll try to get you out.

Don’t worry, they’re going to give you the Ghaddafi treatment.

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US first. they've been tormenting us, too.

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Jul 16·edited Jul 16

I would settle for stockades with all the mainstream media CEOs and hosts in the town square so we can throw rocks at them. Without the media propaganda machine, the house of cards comes down.

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I think a tar and feathering is more in line than rocks. A shame circle perhaps.

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I like the traditional aspect of tar and feathering. I’m not a traditionalist but some traditions are worth keeping.

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How about the non-"Zionist" neocons? Do you have a punishment in mind for those neocons of non-semitic background?

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Not to be annoying but Zionist and Jew are not always the same.

Many Jews are anti-Zionist.

Many Zionists are not Jewish.

It is that diabolical regime that wants the world to conflate the two.

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"Zionist and Jew are not always the same"

Correct. If only those who always throw around the word "Zionist" knew that. Or, assuming they do know it, if only they would use it in a non-dog whistle sense.

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"Diabolical regime," huh? Tough way to speak about Hamas. ;-)

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My comment ended up under Mike (whew is he a doozer)

You are on the right side of this conversation. The Edomites have successfully used the terms Jew, Israel and Zion to their advantage. Jew first referred to those living in Judea established by Judah, son of Jabob (Israel). Edomites are the tribe of Esau, brother of Jacob, who God forced to the barren mountains and that tribe eventually roamed to what is now Turkey and into the regions in Europe. For protection they adopted the label of Jew. They are the banksters of the world.

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You are on the right side of this conversation. The Edomites have successfully used the terms Jew, Israel and Zion to their advantage. Jew first referred to those living in Judea established by Judah,, son of Jabob (Israel). Edomites are the tribe of Esau, brother of Jacob, who God forced to the barren mountains and that tribe eventually roamed to what is now Turkey and into the regions in Europe. For protection they adopted the label of Jew. They are the banksters of the world.

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Is there such a thing? Most people call them war mongers.

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Special punishment for Nuland and her husband, please. Exile to a place far distant from the WH would be a good beginning.

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Not all Zionists are Semitic.

All war mongers should receive the same punishment.

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What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

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Is that "Zionist" sauce or merely the gentile variety?

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Works for me.

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Feral, come in. The neocons will just switch horses again. Then the Dems will pretend to be the pro worker, pro freedom, anti war party for a while.

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Of course. That is sort of my point.

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The neocons already switched horses, starting off as Trotski-, then switching to Team R, then to Team D (recall the public conversions of Kagan, Boot and others).

They'd claim to be pan-africanists and simultaneously National Socialists and devotees of Kim Il Sung Thought, if that was what would get them the wars and empire that they so crave.

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thats right. they must be crushed.

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"The cockroaches did not suddenly become butterflies."

One only needed to watch MSNBC's panel coverage of the Convention last night to know they are frantically skittering around, but they are settling in for the long haul. Hypocritical hyperbole abound. The smug, self assured sense of moral and intellectual superiority is laughable. Thanksgiving nightmares, all of them.

Yes, yup, yup yup, Trump is flawed, says stupid sh*t, it's bad on both sides, but he's looking like the lesser of two evils. Folks may just have to vote for the big lug again.

No matter who wins, one can only hope the republic somehow survives.

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It's the same people babbling. They haven't changed their thinking or world view. They never will. Avoid these people (like a REAL plague) at all costs.

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Jul 16·edited Jul 16

Because it is the same thinking and world view of their paymasters who keep them in their jobs. I guarantee you if they were offered a better paying job babbling the opposite viewpoint and in a friendly conservative MSM setting overall, they would switch sides in a heartbeat. They sold their souls long ago, and therefore care not who feeds their elite lifestyles.

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That's a good or fair point. Still, it is a fact this socialist World-Government Woke ideology happens to align perfectly with their own political philosophies. So they are going to line up with the liberals and Democrats ... and, really, always have.

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There is certainly not a socialist world-government ideology suggested at all by the power establishments whether in the U.S., Europe or elsewhere for that matter. The power establishment represents concentrated capital ... nothing more. Neoliberals and neocons are effectively merged in service to that capital; and the LAST thing any of them want is socialism of any shape. Yes, the neoliberals profess to woke-ism; but I suspect it's hollow and done primarily for virtue-signaling and to neutralize dissent and systemic revolt among people who consider themselves socially liberal. It works the same way as the occasional economic crumbs thrown to, for example, students, or those struggling with drug prices. There will always be folk who's primary interest is in their own immediate welfare and who will sacrifice the future - whether of the nation or just other people broadly - in order to secure their own desires. (In this, the general population reflects the political class and vice versa).

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I see them as warmongering authoritarians who will align with whichever team is acting the most authoritarian. Frankly, I think the old labels from the past carry too much baggage to be useful any longer. The current political parties around the world that most strongly espouse bigger/more controlling government are going to be their most natural home. The Dem party in the US has always been the ideological better fit for them. But, I guess they found common cause with the Bushes and Cheneys for a while. Helps when the head of the "family" was formerly the head of the CIA.

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I'd say it may be more like 50-50 breakdown, possibly. As you said "Still, it is a fact this socialist World-Government Woke ideology happens to align perfectly with their own political philosophies." ....my thinking is they were easily brainwashed to start with (thx to the money), their thinking, and belief system is shallow enough to change, due to the same influence.

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Eh, I don't know about some of these people.

Can you imagine Rachel Maddow at Fox News, attempting to show excitement over the JD Vance pick?

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For sure, acting is easy, even if you are bad at it you get paid! lol

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That's why a new word to describes these critters is so fitting...presstitutes.

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That's not new. Paul Craig Roberts coined it long ago.

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Well, they ARE a real plague!

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They don’t have a world view. They are completely, totally, captured.

They look at their phones and repeat what they are told.

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Yes, they do, it begins with $ and ends with $. That's their globalist worldview.

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Find me someone who isn’t flawed.

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Despite what the Establishment wants us to believe, this is NOT a "lesser of two evils" race. 51% of voters have left the duopoly parties and are now Independent. Polling 19% among black voters, 28% among Hispanics, 33% among Gen Z, and 38% among undecideds, RFK Jr is now a VERY viable contender. He's the ONLY one NOT bought & paid for, and is TRULY willing (ie, not paying lip service) to end special interest corruption in government, end forever wars, unite the country, and repair our standing in the world. A vote for either Biden or Trump will NOT accomplish any of those things.

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I think the good Comrade is referring only to the mockingbird part of the CIA's operations. They still have the color revolution playbook to fall back on. I predict a mass shooting somewhere, preferably (to them) somewhere like a mosque so as to maximize the division it engenders.

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I happen to think the retreat is genuine, and in no small part due to the hostility that after the assassination attempt, the crowd immediately turned on the stable of MSM reporters in the press area. People know something is up with them, and I love it.

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I did not see the reaction to the press area. Was it included in the TV coverage? I was too horrified at the moment to watch everything. Words do matter, in case MSM thinks that they do not.

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Yes there were some right at the stage and turning to the press box and giving them the finger and shouting FU at the press.

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I was watching on RSBN on Rumble, & the crowd did turn around and start screaming at the press. I couldn't hear their words, but there were a lot of middle fingers up. An article the next day reported that they were yelling "This is YOUR fault!" I also detected a few "FUCK YOU's" just based on lip-reading.

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Jul 16·edited Jul 16

They are going to do whatever they need to do to create a pretext for delaying the election.

Because delay is their only out now.

Martial law might be required to delay the election, but that only seems like an impossible thing because it's never happened before.

The Establishment has no problem making that happen, because for the Establishment the need is dire and once done, they can use it again and again.

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Anything is now possible - that's the great lesson of our New Abnormal. Things we once thought were "impossible" ... will probably now happen.

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This country is capable of anything. The ruling class has and will do whatever they have to

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In some parts of my city it’s already martial law. They won’t need to declare it. They’ll just make it happen.

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And the thing we really have to remember is that the people running this aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. We can all see exactly what they're doing. As the brilliant Neil Oliver noted, do they even realize that we can see what they're up to, or do they just no longer care, because they have so much power?

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Or a radical maga successfully assassinating Biden in a revenge killing that not only martyrs him but allows them to insert their new Manchurian candidate while prosecuting Trump for inciting the violence.

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Or, as Alex Jones warned, Kamala could be hit by a guy wearing a MAGA hat, or there could be a shooting at a black church. Then they might declare martial law & suspend elections.

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Not to mention the millions of brainwashed BlueAnon zealots who have their own circles of influence. I think it's becoming clear that the future, for those of us in this loose coalition of civil liberties/critical thinking/rule of law/honest and intelligent media/equality before the law enjoyers, is going to be strategically and doggedly fighting for and articulating our principles in small and local ways. Forget national politics and lean in to influencing your city council, your school board, your HOA, your county sheriff election, your church. It's all cracking. Push on it. It's not 2020 anymore and you're not going to get fired. Demand honesty and integrity and truth and competence and intelligence.

For this reason and others our family is for the first time in years considering leaving our red state "haven" and moving back to the blue state where we were born and raised. We can't do much about the crazies in the big city but we can influence our town, our county, our local officials toward sanity, and the pressure can travel upward. (Not sending our kids to public school though; gotta draw a line somewhere.) Get out there wherever you live and stand up for normal standards of civic life. We can do this!

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Absolutely correct Sir.

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The true power behind the throne.

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I know this: They aren't going to throttle back on the censorship. They are going to quadruple down. They HAVE to ... to cover-up all their past lies and crimes. Plus, they are no where close to finishing other elements of their New World Order/Great Re-Set. None of those initiatives can be brought to fruition absent wide-spread censorship of sane people and smart critics.

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The censorship hasn't worked out all that well. MSM readership and viewership are at all-time lows. Instead, they're using distraction by planting cycle-filling narratives like 'Iran has been planning to assassinate Trump' and 'where did the shooter get his gun and ammo' etc., etc.

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They will be ably assisted by our dumb ass Congress Critters, who willingly chip away at our First Amendment, bleating about the scourge of "antisemitism." Watching interviews with Congress Critters at the convention is very disheartening.

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True, but the citizenry is more awake & aware than we've been in a long time. And I think those who do feel that way are channeling Howard Beale and shouting: "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take this anymore!"

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The people are not more awake and aware. It’s only bozos like ourselves who believe it’s worth it to figure this shit out and do something.

I talk to regular Americans every day. Their concerns are shopping and eating.

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Sadly, I have experienced the same thing. But I'M aware of what's going on and you are clearly aware or what's going on. I believe that there are many, many others just like us more than there have been in the past few years. And while we are still in the minority, behavior is contagious.

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I miss being ignorant but I caught this "contagious" insight : )

I look at the old stomping grounds of the Roman Empire and how they live their lives today and it's centered around friends and family. Also the landlords like to be paid in cash for rent which made me think how big is the underground economy in Italy? Are they starving the beast? To bad we don't have a New World to sail off too. Stay low, expose the corruption and support Matt. Spread the word.

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Any society that has not rid itself of landlordism is not starving the beast.

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I sort of disagree. The mask which they hid behind for decades is completely off. The only means for them to get back to what they had is through totalitarian methods (which is totally possible). By killing off Substack, X, Podcasts. However at that point it will just be like the old USSR “We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too”

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The mask isn't off for most. Or not for nearly enough anyway. Taibbi flogs this horse too, that people are now finally seeing through it. He should talk to some actual liberals. Maybe a few are starting to wake up, but in the main, they still swallow the daily diet of TDS they're spoonfed by their media.

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Very true. I have relatives who insist that the assassination attempt was "staged."

I have friends who are sure that Trump is a virulent racist who will outlaw abortion nationwide & set up a military dictatorship. They're all stuck in their own media bubbles, & I don't know how to break them out. They are defiantly ignorant.

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Agree, Jonathan. As Schumer once said on Maddow’s show, “they (intelligence co) have 6 ways to Sunday” to get you. Biden was visibly fighting the “IDEA” that Holt was suggesting he tone down the rhetoric. If they tone down the rhetoric they are left with nothing. The Emperor needs to parade around with at least the fig leaf of being clothed at his disposal.

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Seems like we now have Musk/Thiel 2024. Into the digital gulag we go….. See Sage Hana substack re forensic crowd sourced analysis of shooting. BBC 9/11 vibe seeing it for first time. Fortunately I found the truth seekers couple years ago.

As I said earlier will be leaving when sub ends in two months.

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I searched for Sage Hana and could not find what you're referring to. Got a link?

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Yeah, please provide that link! I'm outa here tomorrow!

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This ain't the airport, no need to announce your departure.

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Uh—giving the reason for my desire for immediate info. I quite understand my comings and goings are of no interest here. 😀

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This is the issue: can we trust what we read? We all need to think critically. Any president, Biden, Trump, Obama, etc... have to weigh their personal beliefs against that of the "establishment" or "deep state" (if there is even a difference). Trump didn't pardon Assange likely due to real consequences. Pompeo was still pretty close to the situation and that might have resulted in the first assassination attempt against Trump (who knows?). The swamp is dangerous, full of snakes, alligators, and mosquitoes.

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Jul 16·edited Jul 17

Believe me, I more than most have reason not to believe what I read. Even the stories about when he bought the ammo, the ladder, got the gun. All could be wrong. But Trump as a guy who will drain the swamp? No way in hell

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Thank you! What is with Taibbi's audience and this faith in Trump?

Trump is a slimy salesman who doesn't even give us a crappy used car that will work for a year or two. All that we get is more broken politics and trillion dollar deficits.

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Jul 16·edited Jul 16

Hilarious. Can you not read? I never said Trump can drain the swamp. I explained, metaphorically, why. By the way, the world is FULL to the brim with slimy salesmen, yet you single out Trump. Your TDS needs treatment, lest it cause uncurable constipation.

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My guess is the blue-red ratio here is 30-70 at best. That's fine with me, as Taibbi is the real thing and I myself am no longer blue. But over the past week I have heard multiple people - very cool, everyday sort of people - say they wish the bullet hadn't missed. They are never going to read Matt. That's where we are as a country, which is why I think "surrender" is off. On the flip side, the night of the attempt, I thought there was a fireworks display in my area. I'm sure you can figure out what was happening.

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We disagree with you.

That is "what is with" us.

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Uh huh.

4 years of no new wars, affordable gas, food & utilities.

We were not on the brink of nuclear war with Russia, Iran, or China.

Other than those things, yeah. Sure.

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One last comment about "draining the swamp" - RFK jr had a credible plan for how to do it. RFK jr IMO hurt himself with his running mate. Her background is very concerning. I don't think RFK has a legit shot to be elected, but I think he should have the right to be on the ballot in all 50 states.

Maybe Trump and RFK jr can work together in some capacity to drain the swamp. If I were Trump, I would ask RFK jr to be my Attorney General.

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No, Bobby Kennedy should be in charge of Health & Human Services. He could clean the place out.

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Jul 16·edited Jul 16

I never said he would drain the swamp. I gave an example of something we all wanted him to do (pardon Assange) and likely why he didn't do it. That goes with all swamp draining activities. He may do more this second time around though, considering recent events. Time will tell.

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I don't we know why he didn't. It was Trump's admin that orchestrated his removal from the embassy.

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I'm sure all the "Trump is an existential threat," "Trump is literally Hitler," "Trump will end democracy" talk coming out of the WH is pure coincidence. We shouldn't even mention the meme maker who is facing prison, or the hundreds of peaceful J6 protesters rotting in jail.

Yep, you're so right! The Deep State obviously LOVES Trump!

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I agree with jonathan: temporary retreat. Déclassé to be partisan in the shadow of the near assassination but they will be back with a vengeance. Probably after the Democratic convention.

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I get your point but Trump is not the type to settle for winning only a battle and I think he has picked a VP who can finish a long term fight id required.

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Well said. Now see if Vance can survive November 3, 2024.

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Wow. I’m listening to podcast & Walter just said he “raised a bloody fist.” That was Trump’s mistake. It goes fast however he fully opens & there’s zero blood.

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So what you suggesting - that Trump was faking it?

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I don't think you two are in stark disagreement on this, you both makes points.

Yuri isn't saying they will stop.

You're correct, the will to continue is still there. the roaches are even worse, their now radioactive roaches

but from a media perspective, Yuri's absolutely correct. they are disintegrating. They no longer have staffers that are competent, even if they wanted to reform. They have no staff nor management to do it.

Whatever the media agents do going forward is going to be ever more ridiculous and transparent.

I disagree with Yuri on an absolute that "we are the media now." maybe a nuance. they are still "the media" but we are now also a part of it and we are ascendent, whereas they are descendent. those facts and stats do bear in.

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Taking the win in the face of Trump's amazing survival and show of courage, and the shift toward a return of truth/fact based unbiased American journalism, absolutely. Howsomever the viperous alphabet mafia is just recoiling to strike at American liberty again. It's time to pack it down tight. For six decades the American psyche has experienced body blow lie after betraying lie. We the people shouldn't drop our guard for a second.

Americans deserve: A solutions oriented truth/fact based national conversation and a healthy truth/fact based American reality free of lies, threat, manipulation and repression. Hold the line.

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A good start would be some transparency on why Crooks was able to get eight shots off, despite being in the counter-sniper's sights.

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My impression was that the agents in the video never had him in their sights because a tree blocked their line of sight. I saw no indication that they ever fired from that location. No one has identified the agent who actually stopped the assailant. Everyone assumes.

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How ANYONE was allowed to go on one of a handful of rooftops that are close to that venue is beyond explanation---a total security failure.

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According to an expert who performed an acoustic analysis, there were, I think, eight shots fired from THREE different rifles. Three came from the shooter on the roof. It seems the man on the roof closest to Trump only fired one shot ... That leaves four shots being fired by some other sniper(s), right?

So, yes, we don't know who actually killed that person on the roof.

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I'm not so sure the agents in the video fired at all. I see no smoke or recoil. They were obscured and not seeing the assailant they had nothing to shoot.

I think they had comms directing them to the roof but could not see that section. They looked dismayed. If they had him in view they would not have taken eyes off the scope.

Watch the video of the agents with that thought in mind.

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Kind of how a firing squad works…

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See here. The agents on the roof had no line of sight. It was blocked by trees. That blocked view was a huge security lapse.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/16/16/87363329-13639613-Bullets_fired_from_a_manufacturing_building_roof_right_into_the_-a-89_1721144398509.jpg

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Give me a break.

Not buying this nonsense.

A tree? Have you ever been outdoors?

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Did you look at the photo?

There is a tree between the Agents and the assailant's location. Much of the roof was obscured from that angle.

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5 shots from the assassin and three from the police snipers.

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We deserve for the Washington DC metro area to have a population of maybe 2 million. Send the rest of them packing. Then the nation would heal.

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Dispersion of the central capital work force in a bipartisan matter that benefits red and blue would be helpful . Currently 15 percent of all federal workers are in the dc virgina area , consequently it’s one of the wealthiest areas on n the country

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Didn’t know federal workers had that high of pay.

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Its not just the Fed, there is a mass of Private contractors who while private business are effectively on the payroll as their contracts are connected to Government largesse. Throw in some NGO's and education facilities and you have a web of well paying jobs with perks privilege and benefits with the capital as the nexus point.

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Oh, there is always enough money for unionized government workers & endless wars.

Never enough for regular Americans in Lahaina or East Palestine, or those living & dying on our streets, though.

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Move the capital to Topeka, more centrally located. Then you’ll see gnashing of teeth from all those lobbyists who would be upside down and suddenly devalued property

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Or just disperse ALL federal agencies around the country. This is a huge country. Why should all the bureaucrats be concentrated in one place?

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it somewhat made sense...in 1790, when the US was mostly just the Eastern seaboard. I'd like someone to take a hatchet to all the gubmint agencies and reduce by about 80%...and that might be low

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Americans are not going to get truth/facts and honesty. We will be electing a liar in Trump who is committed to huuuuuge military spending that is so bottomless even million dollar audits don't even explain where the money goes.

This is pretty simple: Follow the money. The money in Trump's term was a waterfall of $$$$$ into the pockets of the rich, especially his own family, and the corporations. We will get more of the same in the next 4 years.

"The shift of colonial power from European monarchy to global corporation is perhaps the dominant theme of modern history"--Wendell Berry

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what a bunch of dogshit. biden literally printed trillions for the rich and wealthy and the wealth transfer manifested as inflationary theft not seen in decades. people knew they were better under Trump, their dollar bought more and went further. no amount of gas lighting will make a dent on that reality.

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The Berry quotation comes from a 2002 essay that describes the American political system before Biden or Trump became president.

Just because the Dems are "surrendering" doesn't mean the Trump Republicans are going to suddenly betray their corporate owners. Four years ago, Trump was big time corporations all the time.

If you are sayin American government will suddenly and radically shift once Trump is elected, you are the only one gas lighting.

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Yet, interestingly enough, Trump donated his presidential salary to charity each year.

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If that money goes toward defense rather than foreign entanglements it will be a start at least.

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It occurs at a local level, too. We live in a rural area where wells are running dry, while cities not even that close to us are buying huge tracts of line from which they extract water to ship to their cities.

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"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalistic fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence co-operative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.” Carroll Quigley

Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time

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I like the idea, but old habits are hard to break.

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Every IMPORTANT "truth-seeking" organization is completely captured. The key to our French Resistance efforts would be to get at least one important "truth-seeking" organization that is willing to go apostate and report/investigate some truths.

Easier said than done, though.

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This is RFK , Jr if you’ve not listened to his podcasts or long form interviews. He knows who the swamp monsters are and where the bodies are buried ..

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Excellent comment!!

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So, have we maybe - finally - reached the point where the boy will have been allowed to cry wolf for the final time? Will the left side of the aisle finally figure out how much they have been lied to over the years (decades, actually) about almost everything? If the grand, bigliest wolf of all their wolves was just another fiction, will they now be more skeptical of those with power and those with megaphones for supporting power? Will this be the cause of the collapse of what was known as the "mainstream media?" One can hope.

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“It's easier to fool people than to convince them they’ve been fooled”

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I don't think the left has the self-awareness to believe they were lied to, they believe TPTB didn't go far enough, fast enough. They never admit to any wrong it's lie, shift blame, accuse, rinse and repeat.

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Trump has already delivered on some of the left's main criticisms.

Women in large parts of the country no longer have freedom over their own bodies, corporations are richer and stronger than ever, and our land disappears into endless sprawl and floodwaters.

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Women are slaves now? Where’s that happening?

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Trump is the only guy I know of that can be blamed for presidential actions without actually being president. Biden has been the one in office. The economy for the average American is in the toilet. Prices on food and housing are 40% higher. We are on the brink of 2 wars. We have 12 million people who have been flown in or allowed in who are killing Americans. Theft is through the roof in our stores. Our blue cities are collapsing. But it's Trump's fault? I'm a realist about his flaws but these things are the responsibility of the current administration. Period.

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"Come on, man!"

Dems consider the lack of nationwide access to abortion up to the moment of birth a grave injustice.

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Oh, FFS!

Is abortion all you ghouls ever focus on?

I'm female & abortion is NOT the major issue in my life, nor has it ever been.

I'm sure Planned Parenthood can devise a transportation scheme to help transport poverty stricken pregnant women to neighboring states for abortions. God knows, PP receives plenty of taxpayer dollars. And then there's all the money PP makes off selling fetal body parts to labs. . .

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Uhh, I just mentioned 3 problems that BOTH occurred to me in 30 seconds AND should be serious problems for anyone who is interested in both individual freedoms and passing on a stable government to the next generation.

The Trumpies I have encountered here in my limited interactions are pathetic in their ability to understand and respond to arguments and different perspectives. I wish I could say I was surprised.

I don't vote on the abortion issue, but I think removing choice for women is a big deal and as a lapsed Catholic I know more than a few voters who really do vote largely on whether their candidate is pro-life.

And, of course, that is how we came to our present condition. Republicans--who looooove to talk about individual freedoms--have made a tireless and successful effort to overturn Roe and deny women the right to choose to have an abortion.

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I am not a Republican; I am an Independent, & I have never been an activist on the abortion issue on either side. Women still have access to abortion in most states, & in those that don't, like AZ, they have put propositions on the ballot to address the issue. It should be left up to the states.

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No

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It is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Also, our Covid New Abnormal helped us identify all of the real villains. Let's use this intelligence to our advantage going forward.

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Does the Southern Poverty Law Center add the demise of the would be assassin to their list of “Law Enforcement Involved Shooting Deaths”?

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Was that fire chief and great family man who was horrifically murdered a victim of a "hate crime?" I don't think it was a MAGA supporter who committed this crime. Also, two people are critically injured and may or may not survive ... and will probably suffer life-altering injuries (like James Brady did in 1981).

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“Hate crime,” like “race” underlies some of the biggest misconceptions current.

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07/16/24: 1) And here's the MSM in free-fall collapse, with Kristen Welker's death stare, a defensive reaction prompted by her knowledge that it was NBC's INCENDIARY LANGUAGE that led to an attempted assassination: https://x.com/sav_says_/status/1813056431928537521

2) Anyone else see the sh*tshow that Newsmax degenerated into last night, with Joe Schmitt (competent, horrified) staring at his co-panelists in complete disbelief?

3) Matt, you also were on Newsmax last night, and you did a great job. Speak your mind independently as always, even if it resulted in MSNBC/Rolling Stone et al trying to brand you as a "heretic." SCREW THEM. I'm proud of you. You are your own man.

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me too

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Eric Trump: "Suddenly, CNN is being nice to me."

Much like the Post / Fox-Pravda groveling to get back into his father's good graces after its editor commanded (spineless) New York Posties in 2021-23 to slander / write Trump off as a loser (Toasties in 2025-26).

Oh, yes, CNN. Watch these turkeys get nailed by the Alvin York of 2024, Savanah (not sic) Hernandez:

https://x.com/sav_says_/status/1813431939765841985

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Only, Yuri, if we stick to the TRUTH.

We have been told many lies since Biden became President. The BIG LIE is still happening. Biden is obviously NOT medically sound enough to be running our country.

LIE # 2: who exactly is this committee that is running our executive branch? I would like to know their names. Is one person in charge?

The US voter has a right to this information. No matter what PARTY you support, you have a right to know exactly how your country is being governed.

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The empire of lies. That says it all.

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Amazing to experience the rapidity of it all. I witnessed the bit-by-bit shredding of the official narrative during the late 'sixties, but nothing this rapid.

"There are decades in which nothing happens, and weeks in which decades happen."

I remember the week that Andy Warhol and RFK both got shot, and that seemed like a lot to process in a small time frame!

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You are spot on Yuri. I couldn’t be happier. This is what is killing them. First it propped them up— so easy to control 3 media. Can’t control this form of news. We need to hold these people accountable to we the people…. Thank God for Elon

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Eric Trump: "Suddenly, CNN is being nice to me."

Much like the Post / Fox-Pravda groveling to get back into his father's good graces after its editor commanded (spineless) New York Posties in 2021-23 to slander / write Trump off as a loser (Toasties in 2025-26).

Oh, yes, CNN. Watch these turkeys get nailed by the Alvin York of 2024, Savanah (not sic) Hernandez:

https://x.com/sav_says_/status/1813431939765841985

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ALARMING – ALL indications are that Trump assassination was ordered:

https://rumble.com/v579890-trump-assassination-attempt-30-min-deep-dive-on-dhs-and-fbi-malfeasance-wnd.html

SAME players as J6 bombs planting – Trump Assassination Attempt - Strange Smoke Around DHS & FBI

https://rumble.com/v578rpv-trump-assassination-attempt-strange-smoke-around-dhs-and-fbi-w-chanel-rion.html

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This is a great quote by Yuri Bezmenov: "We have a unique window of opportunity to build golden bridges and deliver truth to many who are questioning in ways they weren't before." Indeed, the MSM has no credibility whatsoever. In fact, they are experts at developing false narratives. However, their reach is greater than people know. They have colluded with a willing

judiciary of judges, prosecutors and state bar associations to puncture critical elements of the American republic. Who knew that they routinely do it through leaks and statements to remove the defendant's legal right to be presumed innocent. Take the example of the classified record case, apparently now on appeal. Legions have complained about how "serious" these allegations of classified record possession are. Yet, the greater the seriousness of the allegations means that the greater the defendant's right to be presumed innocent comes into play. Yet, the federal prosecutor, with the help of the news media, presided over strategic leaks of photos to incriminate Trump, the accused defendant. In an uncorrupted legal environment, the federal prosecutor would have been disbarred under the professional rules of conduct.

Yet, his overseers in the judiciary, including the state bar association were more than happy to commit professional misconduct of their own in allowing it. This truth needs to be delivered to the American public. It can be found in the latest Runnymede Report entitled: The Federal Protection Racket."

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It's important to remember that these things are always temporary. This is a reconfiguration; the censorship and narrative complex will return stronger than ever, they are just gathering their forces for a better and more effective push. This may mean co-opting Trump and his movement in some way, or sabotaging them... as they did in 2016.

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“Listen to me Irish! I am the captain now!”

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The Republicans spent the last decade figuring who they would become and have settled on a pretty coherent populist vision.

Today’s Democrats are a coalition of special interests whose only unifying theme is “Get Trump.” They need to spend the next decade figuring out what they stand for.

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This is the clear theme of this convention

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Remember when Bill Clinton asked where else (New Deal supporters) can they can go? His Democratic Leadership Council (the DLC) was removing the remnants of the New Deal Democrats as well as anyone not a supporter of Neoliberalism.

The Democratic Party has been economically conservative, perhaps anti national and anti progressive/populist for thirty years while increasingly socially deranged, which some Republicans are taking advantage of it.

Interesting times, isn’t?

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I wouldn’t call it deranged. I would call it disingenuous. OK. A big lie. Social identity kewlness without actual cost.

You solve homelessness by giving people housing - not calling homeless people “house less”

You address gender inequality by providing families benefits, tax credits, and health insurance - not by nominating an unqualified black woman (a two-fer!)

You address racial inequalities by investing in schools on a non-tax base basis and investing in education at all levels for all people, not through tokenism and dei programs.

Actual justice costs money. Identity bullshit is totally free!

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Giving people housing does not solve homelessness. Proper care (and re-instutionalization) for the mentally ill and substance abusers would be a good start.

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Institutions for the mentally ill help people who are mentally ill. It does not solve homelessness. That mentally ill people are the problem is a false narrative. The number one cause of homelessness is lack of affordable housing. Half the country can't afford the rent on a one-bedroom apartment. Communities solve homelessness by creating housing and/or buying existing housing & renting it out at rates people can afford.

The commodification of housing is the problem. This is not a problem for the rentier class. The solution requires housing costs to come down and most folks who own property don't want the solution.

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Actually - giving housing to people without houses actually solves homelessness. I have studies. You have opinions.

Now please go away.

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Social deranged was a small cost for that corporate largesse and national security connections

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Exactly. In a very real way, their social positions were a façade to hide their economic agenda.

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30 years? This shift away from the New Deal Dems started after the '72 election

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True, the shift started in the 1970s; my hazy memory says that the actual very deliberate shiving in the back of the remaining New Dealers especially in the party leadership was due to the Clintons’ and their goons in the DLC during the late 90s.

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I love what you and Matt are doing. I really look forward to your perspective at the Democrat convention and how it compares to what you’re seeing in Milwaukee. Hunter would be proud.

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It was obvious that it was happening, but now it's time to write the book and the Wikipedia page on the seventh party system

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_Party_System#Possible_Seventh_Party_System

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Would Huey Long be welcome in this populist party?

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Only if he could be the Boss!

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That's because the liberals and Dems have gotten basically everything they want. They've taken over all the institutions from government to corporations to education to healthcare, plus their infinite numbers of NGOs. We are literally living in the world they've been trying to create. What we found here is rampant crimes unchecked and violent criminals prioritized over victims, cities became unlivable with not only crimes but also homeless encampments spreading while we're forced to watch drug addicts die the most miserable undignified death (and they call that "compassion"), our schools going to hell with students can't read or do math but are indoctrinated into ideologies that make them hate our own country, deny biological reality and self-mutilate, plus producing a generation of kids and young people who are deeply and chronically depressed. And then we find chaos at our borders where our tax dollars are going to aid anyone who come in without restraint while our grocery, gas, and housing prices are soaring through the roof, not to mention the inhumanity of enabling cartels human trafficking and uncontrolled risks of terrorists entering. All this and I haven't even started on the loons protesting to support terrorist rapists or getting into our way to work or the airport while sticking us with crazy laws about what kind of cars or gas stoves we must use. And don't even get me started on censorship.

This. This is the world they've given us after they've succeeded in delivering all of their policies and vision. Now they don't know what more they can offer. Maybe literally imposing a Marxist totalitarian state. I'm continually baffled by how many Americans self-proclaim proudly to be Marxists and thing a communist world is utopia.

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We are far from a Socialist Gov. We are a Fascist Gov. run by Corporations. If we were Socialist, we would have healthcare, education for more than the wealthy. People with health ins. still end up filling for bankruptcy. Socialism doesn't include, Genocide and War, war on everyone. 20% of children are living in poverty. Marx was an economic theorist not a style of gov. Marx included Capitalism in the progress to Socialism then Communism. In the game of Monopoly there is only one winner and I doubt it's either of us.

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socialism and fascism are two sides of the same coin. fascism is merely socialism with the illusion of free market, and i agree, we are under fascism. socialism is not anything like an improvement.

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I don't think you actually know what socialism is.

Several nations, including Sweden, Finland, the Netherlands, New Zealand, and Norway have thrived under social democracy. The government is accountable to the people, and the people are happy.

In the EU, over the last three decades, the social welfare state has been shredded, and the commons have been privatized as US pressure has enforced the neoliberal capitalist model. The populations are now sicker, poorer, angrier - the economies have not grown. They've shrunk.

Sadly, the US and the international monetary funds are now going after the Northern European nations now, and we are seeing the social fabric shred, an alarming rise in Neo-Naziism, and the loss of the populations faith in good government.

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Social Democracy is not socialism, it's a constitutional republic burdened by bloated bureaucracy, overly-generous giveaway programs and high taxes.

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And how have you come to this knowledge, Danno?

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So you would get rid of, Education or Highways or Coast Guard, Border Patrol, Military, Air Traffic control, TSA, EPA, Science, Agriculture, NASA, NOAA, ? which of these do you think people should do without. I don't live on the coast so please Coast Guard gone., I hate war, DOD gone, I don't fly Air traffic gone along with u.s. gov funding of Airports, I finished my education so we can have children who work at min wage jobs and export our higher ed needs to other countries, TSA same gone, I do want clean water and soil because you know companies do what they do anything they can get away with. I work in Astrophysics so NOAA and NASA I want. What do you want to delete, Highways? Sure I don't need much.

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Culturally, you've gotten what you want...except that opposition and the Constitution stood in your way around real nationalization and the outright abrogation of property rights that would be required to complete your fetid political objectives.

That's why most socialist/communist states HAVE to be authoritarian: you can't force a society to slit it own throat completely. You have to tie it down and tell it that its pain is for its own good.

Collectivism is evil. Your "compassion" is misplaced. Focus on making the pie bigger for everyone, and encourage an ethic of private compassion, giving, and charity, instead of trying to use government to implement it at the point of a gun.

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Unfortunately in your ideal Capitalist gov. 99% of us don't get that share of the pie let alone a bigger pie in a shrinking world. Sorry, you lose.

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The mistake is thinking that the soviet union, China etc were actually socialist. The closest the world ever came to a socialist state was probably in the post war western democracies, which helped bring about lots of things we cherish today.

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If you read carefully, I didn't say anything that you attribute to me. Marx actually said to Lenin, Stalin and Trotsky the project of Communism in the Soviet Union would fail not having gone through his steps of Serfdom, Capitalism, Socialism to Communism. Marx seems to have been right in the progression. The closest thing we in the u.s. have to Communism is the u.s. Military, education, healthcare, housing and wages. Mao's project is still at work having had to retreat occasionally. We in the u.s. have decided to retreat to Barbarism. We failed the tipping point.

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We are a Constitutional Republic which has been corrupted into a banana republic by a secretive, permanent shadow government.

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You mean Fascist.

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They think having a "Marxist" identity will protect and serve them while sticking it to those meany "capitalists". And "fascists", of course. They don't see that the autonomy, consumer choices and civil rights they blithely enjoy today will disappear for them the second their utopia becomes reality. They really need to speak to real people who escaped communist countries (instead of each other online) before wanting to impose it here.

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They aren't serious people. They're just people who take themselves too seriously. So cool. So counter-cultural. "I'm a Marxist." I'm superior to you all and holier than thou. I'm a radical thinker who think about deeper things than you average people who just go to work to make money to feed your families.

At the end of the day, they're just snobby elitist nitwits.

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There's that too!

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I’m sorry they were mean to you. You don’t deserve that.

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You ok, hun? Your reply sounds a bit nutty.

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