You seem to be confusing the current $1.9 trillion care package with the previous one. This one actually does funnel the bulk of the funding down—at least until the 1% can figure out how to lay hands on it. I know my city plans on spending $25 million providing past-due rent assistance to prevent any more evictions. They're already takin…
You seem to be confusing the current $1.9 trillion care package with the previous one. This one actually does funnel the bulk of the funding down—at least until the 1% can figure out how to lay hands on it. I know my city plans on spending $25 million providing past-due rent assistance to prevent any more evictions. They're already taking applications.
So, it appears the tunnel vision for which the Professional Class is being slaughtered here is just as prevalent among those who are still so deeply imbued with the pep-squad mindset they automatically reject anything and everything solely based on what it doesn't have instead of what it does. Park your privilege, people. As someone who once worked for $89/week, I assure you my kids and I would have kissed the ground for that monthly credit.
"Until the 1% can figure out how to lay hands on it."
Who do you think is doling out the money, Liz?
If they wanted to they could just divide the $1.9T and send out $5,700 for everybody in the country. But there's no grift in that, so they send it to the politically connected and order THEM to divvy it up.
This is like when a place like Seattle spends $30M to "fight homelessness." Only a fraction of the money actually goes to the people they are trying to help, and most of it just evaporates in "administration."
And wouldn't you know it? The problem didn't improve so they need more money next year too.
SFO spends like $50k/year per homeless person on homeless services. For kind of money every single homeless person should have a personal social worker handing them needles on a silver tray.
Indeed, for that kind of money, that pays for rent and food for the year even in SF. Let's face it, the "help the xxxxxx" campaigns are really gambits to create more sinecures for the govt class of parasite.
Sure, but no need to get political. Any of them will do . Go read up on the American Red Cross for example. Go look up how much the CEO of Goodwill brings in a year.
You could bunk 2 together in a decent apartment even in SFO for $4k a month and still have another $50/k year to spend on clothes and food. Don't conflate 100k/year salary with $100k tax free.
I'm not saying it's doable, but the reason it won't happen isn't because of money.
Many years ago I used to live in California. And while it had many flaws there were a lot of great things about it. I fly back to California every now and then, and each time I go it seems to be incrementally worse. And in this thread it's interesting to see so many people who studied/lived or lived under Soviet Russia talk about how the people deluded themselves, I get the same feeling about Californians. They still think it's the great place it was 20, 30 or 50 years ago. It's strange to listen to people who think they are so smart and educated pontificate on the grandness of their squalor and be completely ignorant on how much better their standard of living could be if they just moved somewhere else.
It's not workable at all. Washington DC tried doing something like this recently with poor results, see the link below. My prediction is that after having exhausted all other possible avenues we return to asylums for those who will not take care of themselves.
And even if it did get down to the masses... why do you think Blue states now have legal weed, prostitution "reform", and sports gambling by smartphone? To filter the money back up where it "belongs."
Actually, they do. I live in NYC. Many homeless are here because they got a 1-way bus ticket to Port Authority from their home state. And DeBlasio welcomes them with open streets.
Perhaps - but if collective society held such noxious opinions about intravenous drug use (at least as much as they seem to hold about "systemic racism" and "white supremacy"), there might be fewer heroin addicts to begin with.
Honest Question - why does the government have the force to collect taxes from productive citizens, but the not the force to tell people who cannot afford said taxes to relocate elsewhere?
Rich people fund college scholarships which actually go to people who need the money to attend school. Rich people contribute to build hospitals which cure the sick. If you really think that the NY city-run Metropolitan Hospital is run as efficiently as NYU Langone... well, there's a bridge across the East River you may want to kick the tires on...
I hope NYC continues along the paths that San Francisco, Seattle and Portland went down and that NYC festers in it's own filth for a couple of decades.
Nobody is doling out extra money. The fed's printer goes brrr and the bill is left for our children and grandchildren to pay. The billionaires aren't paying an extra cent.
You seem to be confusing the current $1.9 trillion care package with the previous one. This one actually does funnel the bulk of the funding down—at least until the 1% can figure out how to lay hands on it. I know my city plans on spending $25 million providing past-due rent assistance to prevent any more evictions. They're already taking applications.
So, it appears the tunnel vision for which the Professional Class is being slaughtered here is just as prevalent among those who are still so deeply imbued with the pep-squad mindset they automatically reject anything and everything solely based on what it doesn't have instead of what it does. Park your privilege, people. As someone who once worked for $89/week, I assure you my kids and I would have kissed the ground for that monthly credit.
"Until the 1% can figure out how to lay hands on it."
Who do you think is doling out the money, Liz?
If they wanted to they could just divide the $1.9T and send out $5,700 for everybody in the country. But there's no grift in that, so they send it to the politically connected and order THEM to divvy it up.
This is like when a place like Seattle spends $30M to "fight homelessness." Only a fraction of the money actually goes to the people they are trying to help, and most of it just evaporates in "administration."
And wouldn't you know it? The problem didn't improve so they need more money next year too.
SFO spends like $50k/year per homeless person on homeless services. For kind of money every single homeless person should have a personal social worker handing them needles on a silver tray.
Indeed, for that kind of money, that pays for rent and food for the year even in SF. Let's face it, the "help the xxxxxx" campaigns are really gambits to create more sinecures for the govt class of parasite.
Also in general the bigger the charity the more of a scam it is. I look at nonprofits very differently than I did when I was younger.
Clinton Global Foundation, for instance?
Sure, but no need to get political. Any of them will do . Go read up on the American Red Cross for example. Go look up how much the CEO of Goodwill brings in a year.
You could bunk 2 together in a decent apartment even in SFO for $4k a month and still have another $50/k year to spend on clothes and food. Don't conflate 100k/year salary with $100k tax free.
I'm not saying it's doable, but the reason it won't happen isn't because of money.
Many years ago I used to live in California. And while it had many flaws there were a lot of great things about it. I fly back to California every now and then, and each time I go it seems to be incrementally worse. And in this thread it's interesting to see so many people who studied/lived or lived under Soviet Russia talk about how the people deluded themselves, I get the same feeling about Californians. They still think it's the great place it was 20, 30 or 50 years ago. It's strange to listen to people who think they are so smart and educated pontificate on the grandness of their squalor and be completely ignorant on how much better their standard of living could be if they just moved somewhere else.
So what keeps you in California?
It's not workable at all. Washington DC tried doing something like this recently with poor results, see the link below. My prediction is that after having exhausted all other possible avenues we return to asylums for those who will not take care of themselves.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/dc-housed-the-homeless-in-upscale-apartments-it-hasnt-gone-as-planned/2019/04/16/60c8ab9c-5648-11e9-8ef3-fbd41a2ce4d5_story.html
And even if it did get down to the masses... why do you think Blue states now have legal weed, prostitution "reform", and sports gambling by smartphone? To filter the money back up where it "belongs."
And yet the red state reps still have no answer........ Funny how that works now ain't it ??
Actually, they do. I live in NYC. Many homeless are here because they got a 1-way bus ticket to Port Authority from their home state. And DeBlasio welcomes them with open streets.
And free syringes.
You'd be OK if they were $100 so that more people would share them is what you're saying ??
I'd be happier if they had been shamed by society into not shooting up ever in the first place.
Just my opinion, but being shamed by society is one of the several things that can lead a person to shoot up.
Perhaps - but if collective society held such noxious opinions about intravenous drug use (at least as much as they seem to hold about "systemic racism" and "white supremacy"), there might be fewer heroin addicts to begin with.
So leaving them no place to go is the answer ? So funny how partisanship warps the perception and the problem solving ability of its subjects.
Honest Question - why does the government have the force to collect taxes from productive citizens, but the not the force to tell people who cannot afford said taxes to relocate elsewhere?
." Only a fraction of the money actually goes to the people they are trying to help,"
Sounds like "philanthropy" by the elite now doesn't it ?
Actually, no.
Rich people fund college scholarships which actually go to people who need the money to attend school. Rich people contribute to build hospitals which cure the sick. If you really think that the NY city-run Metropolitan Hospital is run as efficiently as NYU Langone... well, there's a bridge across the East River you may want to kick the tires on...
And lets be clear - rich people do it for tax reduction, egotism, and many other less than egalitarian reasons...
They also do it to get their own wastrel progeny admitted.
Indeed, another less than egalitarian reason. Doesn't mean that the scholarship money isn't of value to the less wealthy.
Except the elites are (presumably) spending their own money.
Government is spending OUR money.
Be careful, comrade. In the eyes of the collective, all money is OUR money.
I have no doubts about the future of the dollar.
Hint: It sounds like BRRRRRRRRRRRRR
They need DeBlasio's wife to run it, that will fix it
I hope NYC continues along the paths that San Francisco, Seattle and Portland went down and that NYC festers in it's own filth for a couple of decades.
Here here, let's ship them back to Kansas.
Nobody is doling out extra money. The fed's printer goes brrr and the bill is left for our children and grandchildren to pay. The billionaires aren't paying an extra cent.
I mean after the money is brrrrrred into existence. Somebody has to pass it out, and government knows JUST the people.
They're taking $5,700 from you, giving you $1,400 back and patting themselves on the back for how caring they are.
That's how all currencies come into existence. How is this any different than any of the others ?
It's really not, and the same thing is happening to all of them. It's a coordinated race to the bottom.
Buy bitcoin.
Yeah, because nothing says "security" like virtual currency.
Jesus. Listen to yourself.
If you wanna keep your savings and wealth in a rapidly deteriorating currency, knock yourself out. Ride it all the way to zero. Nobody cares.
Myself, I'll enjoy my 3000x gains and keep my "trust" in a decentralized currency that can't be counterfeited at whim.
Maybe after the next multi-trillion dollar bailout you'll reconsider your stance, just like millions of others are doing.
Our currency is printed by the Federal Reserve, not the Fed Gov. And it's borrowed into existence through private loans, not through public borrowing.