Peter - Wrong.... The Obama Justice Department investigated if Browns Civil Rights were violated. They did not find 'find him innocent" as you claim and expected Obama to state publicly. Only Trump lies about shit like that .
They found his civil rights were not violated.
What you IGNORED was the root problem, which the Justice Departme…
Peter - Wrong.... The Obama Justice Department investigated if Browns Civil Rights were violated. They did not find 'find him innocent" as you claim and expected Obama to state publicly. Only Trump lies about shit like that .
They found his civil rights were not violated.
What you IGNORED was the root problem, which the Justice Department did not investigate and that is Fergusen "Policing for Profit".
That is the core problem and the results are a public that don't get justice and COPS who are put in a terrible position because those in Charge are as Matt says "LAZY"
Your copious research of "Obama's Justice Department" missed this.... Bad Policy is the problem.
"What it found included routine violations of black residents’ civil rights. For example, the DOJ found that black drivers were more than twice as likely as white drivers to be searched during traffic stops, but 26 percent less likely to be found with contraband. Even so, black drivers were more likely to be cited and arrested during a traffic stop.
The report also found that 88 percent of documented police use-of-force cases involved blacks, and in particular juveniles and people with mental health problems or cognitive disabilities."
Piketty, you are just making stuff up. The DOJ report is online anyone (ever you) can read it. Let me offer a few quotes
“The Department has determined that the evidence does not support charging a violation of federal law”
No references to Browns ‘Rights’, but a clear statement that a crime (by the police officer) did not occur. That’s what people call ‘innocent’.
“Based on this investigation, the Department has concluded that Darren Wilson’s actions do not constitute prosecutable violations under the applicable federal criminal civil rights statute, 18 U.S.C. § 242, which prohibits uses of deadly force that are “objectively unreasonable,” as defined by the United States Supreme Court.”
Wow. The DOJ folks are so lame that they spell Michael Brown as Darren Wilson.
“As discussed above, Darren Wilson has stated his intent in shooting Michael Brown was in response to a perceived deadly threat. The only possible basis for prosecuting Wilson under section 242 would therefore be if the government could prove that his account is not true – i.e., that Brown never assaulted Wilson at the SUV, never attempted to gain control of Wilson’s gun, and thereafter clearly surrendered in a way that no reasonable officer could have failed to perceive. Given that Wilson’s account is corroborated by physical evidence and that his perception of a threat posed by Brown is corroborated by other eyewitnesses, to include aspects of the testimony of Witness 101, there is no credible evidence that Wilson willfully shot Brown as he was attempting to surrender or was otherwise not posing a threat. Even if Wilson was mistaken in his interpretation of Brown’s conduct, the fact that others interpreted that conduct the same way as Wilson precludes a determination that he acted with a bad purpose to disobey the law.”
In other words, innocent.
Finally we have.
“For the reasons set forth above, this matter lacks prosecutive merit and should be closed.”
You wrote “What you IGNORED was the root problem, which the Justice Department did not investigate and that is Fergusen "Policing for Profit".”
Once again, you are just making stuff up.
Let me quote from Eric Holder (remember him?).
“I would like to take the next few moments to address the two investigations that the Justice Department has been conducting in Ferguson, Missouri, these last several months. The matter that we are here to discuss is significant not only because of the conclusions the Department of Justice is announcing today, but also because of the broader conversations and the initiatives that those conversations have inspired across the country on the local and national level. Those initiatives have included extensive and vital efforts to examine the causes of misunderstanding and mistrust between law enforcement officers and the communities they serve; to support and strengthen our public safety institutions as a whole; and to rebuild confidence wherever it has eroded.”
And
“A community where local authorities consistently approached law enforcement not as a means for protecting public safety, but as a way to generate revenue. A community where both policing and municipal court practices were found to disproportionately harm African American residents. A community where this harm frequently appears to stem, at least in part, from racial bias – both implicit and explicit. And a community where all of these conditions, unlawful practices, and constitutional violations have not only severely undermined the public trust, eroded police legitimacy, and made local residents less safe – but created an intensely charged atmosphere where people feel under assault and under siege by those charged to serve and protect them.”
I guess Eric Holder is a ‘Trumpian Liar’. You can learn so much reading online.
Peter - <<.Piketty, you are just making stuff up. The DOJ report is online anyone (ever you) can read it...... No references to Browns ‘Rights’, >>
Ummmm.... let me quote from the quote you have listed above " ..Darren Wilson’s actions do not constitute prosecutable violations under the applicable federal criminal civil rights..."
So you are clearly confused. The DOJ investigated if the victims CIVIL RIGHTS were broken which is exactly what i said.
You are clearly confused...
Again, Matt's point here, as is mine, is that situations like this one should be avoided if we have BETTER people leading the police. Regardless of what you think of Taylor personally, she was shot by the cops and is dead. That is a bad outcome and it could have been avoided had they simply arrested her boyfriend in a manner different than kicking a door down of a person that legally had a gun in his posession
Sorry, but you are still making stuff up (there is another word for that I think). Let's try the very first sentence of the DOJ report.
"At approximately noon on Saturday, August 9, 2014, Officer Darren Wilson of the Ferguson Police Department (“FPD”) shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed 18-year-old. The Criminal Section of the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division, the United States Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Missouri, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”) (collectively, “The Department”) subsequently opened a criminal investigation into whether the shooting violated federal law."
So it was a criminal investigation (not a civil rights investigation) of someone. Who would that person be? A clue. Probably not Michael Brown. Go read the entire report. It is a striking vindication of Darren Wilson and (de facto) indictment of Michael Brown.
Even Eric Holder (a 'Trumpian Liar') recognized this. Quote
"This morning, the Justice Department announced the conclusion of our investigation and released a comprehensive, 87-page report documenting our findings and conclusions that the facts do not support the filing of criminal charges against Officer Darren Wilson in this case. Michael Brown’s death, though a tragedy, did not involve prosecutable conduct on the part of Officer Wilson. "
Note the explicit reference to 'prosecutable conduct' (of Darren Wilson) and not the 'civil rights' (of Michael Brown).
So I guess Eric Holder is/was just lying again. So sad. So much like Trump.
I see you are trying to change the subject to Breonna Taylor. I would too if I was caught trying to justify the conduct of a violent thug.
Peter - Wrong.... The Obama Justice Department investigated if Browns Civil Rights were violated. They did not find 'find him innocent" as you claim and expected Obama to state publicly. Only Trump lies about shit like that .
They found his civil rights were not violated.
What you IGNORED was the root problem, which the Justice Department did not investigate and that is Fergusen "Policing for Profit".
That is the core problem and the results are a public that don't get justice and COPS who are put in a terrible position because those in Charge are as Matt says "LAZY"
Your copious research of "Obama's Justice Department" missed this.... Bad Policy is the problem.
"What it found included routine violations of black residents’ civil rights. For example, the DOJ found that black drivers were more than twice as likely as white drivers to be searched during traffic stops, but 26 percent less likely to be found with contraband. Even so, black drivers were more likely to be cited and arrested during a traffic stop.
The report also found that 88 percent of documented police use-of-force cases involved blacks, and in particular juveniles and people with mental health problems or cognitive disabilities."
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/how-the-doj-reforms-a-police-department-like-ferguson/
Piketty, you are just making stuff up. The DOJ report is online anyone (ever you) can read it. Let me offer a few quotes
“The Department has determined that the evidence does not support charging a violation of federal law”
No references to Browns ‘Rights’, but a clear statement that a crime (by the police officer) did not occur. That’s what people call ‘innocent’.
“Based on this investigation, the Department has concluded that Darren Wilson’s actions do not constitute prosecutable violations under the applicable federal criminal civil rights statute, 18 U.S.C. § 242, which prohibits uses of deadly force that are “objectively unreasonable,” as defined by the United States Supreme Court.”
Wow. The DOJ folks are so lame that they spell Michael Brown as Darren Wilson.
“As discussed above, Darren Wilson has stated his intent in shooting Michael Brown was in response to a perceived deadly threat. The only possible basis for prosecuting Wilson under section 242 would therefore be if the government could prove that his account is not true – i.e., that Brown never assaulted Wilson at the SUV, never attempted to gain control of Wilson’s gun, and thereafter clearly surrendered in a way that no reasonable officer could have failed to perceive. Given that Wilson’s account is corroborated by physical evidence and that his perception of a threat posed by Brown is corroborated by other eyewitnesses, to include aspects of the testimony of Witness 101, there is no credible evidence that Wilson willfully shot Brown as he was attempting to surrender or was otherwise not posing a threat. Even if Wilson was mistaken in his interpretation of Brown’s conduct, the fact that others interpreted that conduct the same way as Wilson precludes a determination that he acted with a bad purpose to disobey the law.”
In other words, innocent.
Finally we have.
“For the reasons set forth above, this matter lacks prosecutive merit and should be closed.”
You wrote “What you IGNORED was the root problem, which the Justice Department did not investigate and that is Fergusen "Policing for Profit".”
Once again, you are just making stuff up.
Let me quote from Eric Holder (remember him?).
“I would like to take the next few moments to address the two investigations that the Justice Department has been conducting in Ferguson, Missouri, these last several months. The matter that we are here to discuss is significant not only because of the conclusions the Department of Justice is announcing today, but also because of the broader conversations and the initiatives that those conversations have inspired across the country on the local and national level. Those initiatives have included extensive and vital efforts to examine the causes of misunderstanding and mistrust between law enforcement officers and the communities they serve; to support and strengthen our public safety institutions as a whole; and to rebuild confidence wherever it has eroded.”
And
“A community where local authorities consistently approached law enforcement not as a means for protecting public safety, but as a way to generate revenue. A community where both policing and municipal court practices were found to disproportionately harm African American residents. A community where this harm frequently appears to stem, at least in part, from racial bias – both implicit and explicit. And a community where all of these conditions, unlawful practices, and constitutional violations have not only severely undermined the public trust, eroded police legitimacy, and made local residents less safe – but created an intensely charged atmosphere where people feel under assault and under siege by those charged to serve and protect them.”
I guess Eric Holder is a ‘Trumpian Liar’. You can learn so much reading online.
Peter - <<.Piketty, you are just making stuff up. The DOJ report is online anyone (ever you) can read it...... No references to Browns ‘Rights’, >>
Ummmm.... let me quote from the quote you have listed above " ..Darren Wilson’s actions do not constitute prosecutable violations under the applicable federal criminal civil rights..."
So you are clearly confused. The DOJ investigated if the victims CIVIL RIGHTS were broken which is exactly what i said.
You are clearly confused...
Again, Matt's point here, as is mine, is that situations like this one should be avoided if we have BETTER people leading the police. Regardless of what you think of Taylor personally, she was shot by the cops and is dead. That is a bad outcome and it could have been avoided had they simply arrested her boyfriend in a manner different than kicking a door down of a person that legally had a gun in his posession
Sorry, but you are still making stuff up (there is another word for that I think). Let's try the very first sentence of the DOJ report.
"At approximately noon on Saturday, August 9, 2014, Officer Darren Wilson of the Ferguson Police Department (“FPD”) shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed 18-year-old. The Criminal Section of the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division, the United States Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Missouri, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”) (collectively, “The Department”) subsequently opened a criminal investigation into whether the shooting violated federal law."
So it was a criminal investigation (not a civil rights investigation) of someone. Who would that person be? A clue. Probably not Michael Brown. Go read the entire report. It is a striking vindication of Darren Wilson and (de facto) indictment of Michael Brown.
Even Eric Holder (a 'Trumpian Liar') recognized this. Quote
"This morning, the Justice Department announced the conclusion of our investigation and released a comprehensive, 87-page report documenting our findings and conclusions that the facts do not support the filing of criminal charges against Officer Darren Wilson in this case. Michael Brown’s death, though a tragedy, did not involve prosecutable conduct on the part of Officer Wilson. "
Note the explicit reference to 'prosecutable conduct' (of Darren Wilson) and not the 'civil rights' (of Michael Brown).
So I guess Eric Holder is/was just lying again. So sad. So much like Trump.
I see you are trying to change the subject to Breonna Taylor. I would too if I was caught trying to justify the conduct of a violent thug.