Oh, I'd love to live in a new socialist paradise next door to a new nuclear armed right wing bully state. Both free to swing to the extremes, now that they are more politically uniform and don't need to deal with internal pushback. Imagine a new nation where Trump polls 70% positive and can crush any opposition.
Oh, I'd love to live in a new socialist paradise next door to a new nuclear armed right wing bully state. Both free to swing to the extremes, now that they are more politically uniform and don't need to deal with internal pushback. Imagine a new nation where Trump polls 70% positive and can crush any opposition.
Folks, we need to do our best to fix the problems in the US from within, rather than leaving it; the rest of the world is counting on us to do our part to balance and reform, rather than unleash, the extremism. There's nobody else who can step in and restore sanity or at least hold it together until people get tired of the extremists.
Please tell me that, in your dystopian horror fantasy, there will also be some sort of free state that is neither socialist paradise or nuclear armed right wing bully state. I had to read the book Ecotopia in 9th grade biology (I grew up in San Francisco) and pissed off the teacher when I posited that the whole thing wouldn't work because you had to force the non-believers to join... and then it's not a utopia anymore. I still agree with 9th grade me 40+ years later. I want to live in the free place in the middle.
I hear you. Even if "the united states of canada" on the map were to be just a moderately liberal democracy (rather than a "socialist paradise"), it would still be next door to a now much more conservative and nuclear armed nation ("jesusland" on the map). Likewise if a third "free state" as you sugggest were created out of the reorg.
And I do take your point. One point I want some of my fellow liberals to consider is: does your vision of the good near term society still have room to accommodate people with humane values but cultural differences? I'm not talking here about, say, Black culture (which they want to accept), but about, for example, church going NASCAR watching flag waving citizens. Or does their vision of mullticulturalism require deporting or brainwashing all such people, because only people who adhere to the new progressive ideology can live in peace there? I am not myself a church goer, a NASCAR watcher, or a flag waver - but I defend the right of my fellow citizens to be any of those things, and the multicultural society needs to have room for the to live with respect and dignity too. Or it winds up being authoritarian and dogmatic - like your non-utopian Ecotopia. (Alas, progressivism has been diverging quite a bit recently from previously shared liberal values, towards becoming the illiberal left).
Oh, I'd love to live in a new socialist paradise next door to a new nuclear armed right wing bully state. Both free to swing to the extremes, now that they are more politically uniform and don't need to deal with internal pushback. Imagine a new nation where Trump polls 70% positive and can crush any opposition.
Folks, we need to do our best to fix the problems in the US from within, rather than leaving it; the rest of the world is counting on us to do our part to balance and reform, rather than unleash, the extremism. There's nobody else who can step in and restore sanity or at least hold it together until people get tired of the extremists.
Please tell me that, in your dystopian horror fantasy, there will also be some sort of free state that is neither socialist paradise or nuclear armed right wing bully state. I had to read the book Ecotopia in 9th grade biology (I grew up in San Francisco) and pissed off the teacher when I posited that the whole thing wouldn't work because you had to force the non-believers to join... and then it's not a utopia anymore. I still agree with 9th grade me 40+ years later. I want to live in the free place in the middle.
I hear you. Even if "the united states of canada" on the map were to be just a moderately liberal democracy (rather than a "socialist paradise"), it would still be next door to a now much more conservative and nuclear armed nation ("jesusland" on the map). Likewise if a third "free state" as you sugggest were created out of the reorg.
And I do take your point. One point I want some of my fellow liberals to consider is: does your vision of the good near term society still have room to accommodate people with humane values but cultural differences? I'm not talking here about, say, Black culture (which they want to accept), but about, for example, church going NASCAR watching flag waving citizens. Or does their vision of mullticulturalism require deporting or brainwashing all such people, because only people who adhere to the new progressive ideology can live in peace there? I am not myself a church goer, a NASCAR watcher, or a flag waver - but I defend the right of my fellow citizens to be any of those things, and the multicultural society needs to have room for the to live with respect and dignity too. Or it winds up being authoritarian and dogmatic - like your non-utopian Ecotopia. (Alas, progressivism has been diverging quite a bit recently from previously shared liberal values, towards becoming the illiberal left).