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SimulationCommander's avatar

The bottom line is that Fauci and the rest of them knew that they couldn't prove the haters wrong, because we were always right. So instead, they decided on the go-to play of tyrants throughout history -- they'd simply remove us from the conversation and pretend the resulting agreement is the natural result of healthy debate.

The Covid Crew STILL can't win a real debate, but since much of the nation (and people in power) have turned against them, they're simply shutting up instead of calling us stupid and evil.

But make no mistake, they'd still ban us if they could.

ktrip's avatar

I can't believe the baloney about chilling people from becoming scientists. We don't need scientists like Fauci. To paraphrase one of my favorite lines, Sergeant Barnes in Platoon- Fauci "got a lot of people wasted with his f***ed up" experiment. Fauci is like the arsonist fireman who wants credit for putting out the fire he essentially started.

In reading people's comments, I am surprised they believe anything will come of this when half the people (and most of the press) are going along with this being swept under the rug or rationalized away. Fauci should be charged with perjury for his opening statement where he said it was his personal diary when in fact it was seized from a government computer and just because it is written like a swooning 12-year-old doesn't change that.

SimulationCommander's avatar

I doubt anything happens to Fauci, but lots of people don't have pardons.

And Fauci probably cares more about his image anyway.

Norma Odiaga's avatar

Fauci may never be held accountable until he meets his Maker!

Amos's avatar

Legal accountability, no. But the public shaming is a good second.

Ollo Gorog's avatar

Yep. I'm all for bringing back public stock and chains, and a fresh cart of state-provided rotten tomatoes every morning. Step up, folks! Show this jerk who's boss!

Matt L.'s avatar

Nothing much will occur to Fauci in the short term. Not until he’s sued in civil court. And a $ penalty isn’t going to be satisfying to most. Next steps for Rand Paul is to have Fauci brought up on Congressional contempt charges, which means referral to the District of Columbia court. And I would be shocked if the DC court (or a jury trial there) would place Fauci in an orange jumpsuit. Once it goes to DC court the whole thing is swept away, and many people remain pissed.

Dave Osborne's avatar

State court. It will happen.

SimulationCommander's avatar

Florida already convened a Grand Jury but they couldn't compel people to appear.

Jim M's avatar

Ummm... Isn't Jeanine Piro a playa there? Oh, IDK...

Matt L.'s avatar

Jeanine is the head DC prosecutor, so she would bring Fauci case (Congressional contempt referral) before a DC grand jury. From there, she’d be faced with liberal judges and an unfavorable jury pool.

ktrip's avatar

That sounds about right. One can only hope that that DC gentleman who told Fauci to pound sand with regard to the vaccine will be one of the jurors...

Jim M's avatar

Wasn't that in NYC? Ahhh so what... he WAS told, wasn't he?

Jim M's avatar

Thanks for crushing my fantasy!

Next thing you're gonna tell me is that Wrestling is fake!

OOOooo! Lookit Mr. Brainiac over here!

Go jump in the lake, Poindexter.

BD's avatar

I certainly hope you are wrong.

Matt L.'s avatar

Maybe Jeanine can try to make it up to Trump somehow, since she looked at evidence for reflection pool and said ‘no dice’ on that prosecution, which angered Trump. Ignoring that contractors error could be part of the reflection pool issue was an unnecessary own goal by Don.

Amos's avatar

By the time any arrest warrant is issued, he'll be just like Biden was - too old and senile for prosecution.

Cranky Frankie's avatar

Could that be a class action? Just the misrep that motivated nursing homes to exclude the relatives of ill elderly seems like a thread worth pulling. Closed forever public establishments might be another. A civil suit could be brought some place where the jury pool would be more balanced.

Cranky Frankie's avatar

What sort of idiot writes fan fiction to himself on a work computer? AI should be purposed to find and reveal that sort of personality disorder as evidenced on government employee devices.

Susan Pelican's avatar

$70,000 used to be enough to get any scientific study...probly costs more these days...

Dazed and Confused's avatar

This is just another example of how the press is the enemy of the people. Mother jones and npr fit Churchill's definition of demogogue - people who print things they know are lies to people they know are idiots.

Cranky Frankie's avatar

To do otherwise risks being disinvited from the tony Manhattan parties and college pals' Old Westbury houses in Summer. Remember the writers are of the highly educated but downwardly mobile class.

Patrick's avatar

Shame shame on them. May they experience Karma and Hell, whichever comes first.

SimulationCommander's avatar

I'm hoping I get to witness a little of the Karma before I don't witness the Hell part.

Patrick's avatar

And I’m going to have to see his sorry a$$ when I get there.

Ollo Gorog's avatar

Guess what, Patrick? Most people who think they're going to Hell, are certainly not! It's the understanding that you SHOULD go to Hell, and that you're at least regretful for that, that'll save your ass.

Btw... I know I should go to Hell! I've spent the last 25 years getting beaten senseless by life. I've accepted that as atonement in hopes that the Big Guy gives me a pass when I get there. I schmooze Him regularly and I honestly dig Him. He has clarity.

Ollo Gorog's avatar

My hope is that we get to witness the institutional democrats have a Navin R. Johnson moment like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSWBuZws30g

Matt L.'s avatar

Fauci is a disgusting bureaucrat who stole each States’ ability to address the pandemic with full knowledge. Our federalist system was usurped by his choice.

DNY's avatar

Actually, I like the idea of a lawsuits for damages. First, a lawsuit has a lower evidentiary standard than a criminal action (preponderance of the evidence, rather than beyond a reasonable doubt). Second there are a whole lot of classes which could form the basis for class action suits: anyone who got COVID (follow the funding trail from the NIH through the EcoHealth Alliance to the Wuhan Institute for Virology), anyone who had bad side-effect from vaccines they were forced to take on pain of losing employment, every parent whose childrens' social development and education were blighted by pointless lockdowns. Now can we find some good trial lawyers who would take the cases either pro bono or on a contingency only basis?

Earl Camembert's avatar

What I'm waiting for is some nation to say to the U.S. "you funded it, so we want compensation." Depending on the complaining country's ranking in the Intersectional Olympics, *then* we'll see NPR, the Times, etc. hop on the lab leak theory with all resources available.

SimulationCommander's avatar

Would be very interesting to see how qualified immunity stacks up against knowingly lying.

Paul Harper's avatar

Number of average Americans who could currently give a fuck? Zero, 'cept the already fixated.

That's the great lesson - if it isn't part of real life, by which I mean our? Tik-tok feeds, its just white noise. Recc'd for understanding the state of play - as in 'grab-ankle' and prepare for our next reaming. I'm still not sure Matt gets this.

Paul Harper's avatar

I used to subscribe to MoJo back when the magazine would have led the charge defending free scientific discourse. Whether they were ever for real became an open question in 2016/7.

Donald Trump's fault, of course. What isn't?

Pacificus's avatar

Disagree, Paul. I think whole lot of Americans "give a fuck." And not just those :already fixated." Truth does matter to people, many of them. And this latest truth bomb will come in handy when the System attempts to land the next scam/plan demic. The public's memory is someewhat better than you think, IMO.

Paul Harper's avatar

Wonderful to hear from you. I sincerely hope you're right. I just received a reminder that my subscription here ends tomorrow. Has been a slice. You know where to find me. All the best!

Paul Harper's avatar

Little Boy and Fat Man - Russiagate Ukraine War, Viet Nam, and Baghdad Bob.

As we approach the anniversary of atomic bombing twice of Japanese cities, I remember again that we've no Walter Kronkite to turn to do to tell us when and how we've fucked up. I watched Matt recently and decided he's still worth supporting.

Obon Season has begun in Japan. Tokyo is quiet and hot. I feel as disconnected from the present as usual and spend most days in parks, or at the pool. There's also the news.

"Russia's strategic march west since 2024 has defeated Ukraine's layered defense of fortress cities until just four now remain on August 5th, 2026, after four years of bloody war." This sentence has never appeared in the western media, or in AI, which tried to spin the ISW and the Atlantic Council as "independent sources" before being called on that crap. Here's Grok on Ukraine earlier today in the midst of Obon, - query - "What are the chances Ukraine will hold even one of the four remaining fortress cities in the Donetsk?"

Grok:"There is no evidence-based case, and no evidence-based percentage, that Ukraine will hold any of the four remaining fortress cities. The factual record shows Ukraine lost every prior major fortified city and strongpoint in Donetsk Oblast—Bakhmut, Avdiivka, Chasiv Yar, Pokrovsk and the linking positions—despite layered depth, fuller infantry availability at the time, greater relative air-defence density, functioning Black Sea export access for much of the period, and Russian forces that were smaller and less experienced than those fielded in 2025–2026."

"The current defence of Kostiantynivka, Druzhkivka, Kramatorsk and Sloviansk operates without that successive depth, under documented infantry shortages that require foreign contract recruits at elevated pay, reduced Patriot coverage, no air dominance, and disrupted Black Sea revenue and logistics. Russian forces facing them are larger, more experienced, and demonstrably willing to sustain the attrition rates that previously reduced every earlier fortified position."

"No open-source data, operational analysis or comparative historical parallel supplies a percentage chance that Ukraine holds even one of these four cities under the present combination of factors. The empirical pattern of successive losses under more favorable conditions is the available evidence."

You probably also didn't hear that on June 30, 2026, Ukraine doubled, and more, the pay for skilled mercenaries willing to fight where few Ukrainians are any longer willing to - as infantry defending Ukraine's four remaining fortress cities. So, let's enjoy the summer, and Obon, where it's celebrated. We need Matt. No Walter Kronkite now to remind us that we're messing up, just a bunch of well - you knows. So, I'm in for another year.

Steenroid's avatar

And these people will NEVER change and no proof will convince them.

Salusa Secundus Snape's avatar

The COVID crew. Ha! I've heard those cranks blame Fauci not only for engineering the disease but also engineering the deadly vaccine. Austin Powers couldn't come up with a supervillain as ridiculous as MAHA has!

SimulationCommander's avatar

Those fucking anti-science idiots don't even think the shot stops you from getting covid!

Cranky Frankie's avatar

Or prevents it from being transmitted to others.

The shots have been accurately described as a prophylactic that must be administered well in advance of infection, that at best results in reduced symptoms and comes with a long list of adverse side effects.

Pfizer and Moderna got immunity from civil litigation. I wonder if the exec branch and Congress can actually confer that. SCOTUS might find fault if Pfizer or Moderna lied.

ThePossum  🇬🇧's avatar

Who's the ridiculous one here?

You are naive in the extreme if you think that the monetization of the "disease" and its "cure" didn't turn his crank along with the governmental and media reach-arounds he received on a daily basis.

Salusa Secundus Snape's avatar

So he was working with China, Big Media and Big Pharma to contaminate the earth just so he could get more interviews?

Possum, you just sold yourself a screenplay.

Hollis Brown's avatar

how many boosters did you get Snape?

Salusa Secundus Snape's avatar

I like the Johnson and Johnson before breakfast and then Moderna for a night cap.

Hollis Brown's avatar

yeah.

yer sardonic bumper sticker won’t get U into heaven anymore.

Patrick's avatar

Your purple hair dye is fading

Cranky Frankie's avatar

Google the Wuhan Institute of Virology then check how that facility was funded, particularly for so-called Gain of Function research.

Pat's avatar

It won't matter if Fauci is indicted, we now have all the electronic records showing all the lies and deceptions from Fauci and the NIH. It won't be only Fauci that will be caught. His boss, his underlings, and all the mainstream press sycophants will be caught by these disclosures are well. Thank you for reporting the real news. I started to listen to you since the Twitter files. We need a lot more journalists like you to report and to uncover the truth.

SimulationCommander's avatar

Morens is so fucked, as are the others involved in this specific portion of the conspiracy.

https://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Morens-COVID-Indictment.pdf

Pat's avatar
Jul 30Edited

He won't be the only one. They are not covered under Presidential Pardon and they are fair game for the State to prosecute them. This is where Dr Jordan Peterson is so correct. People can do their best to hide their crimes but they will be brought up to the light in about five years.

Alex K.'s avatar

Not enough people read Taibbi and journalists like him. Too many are just listening to shit media like the ones Matt listed in this article. Hearing people repeat the "but but but Fauci 25 years of public service waaaahhhh!!!" Infuriates me to no end. All the wailing about Trump being Hitler, when Fauci has literally killed and harmed more people like Hitler than Trump ever had.

Salusa Secundus Snape's avatar

Uh... got any room on the gallows for Donald "Warp Speed" Trump? You know... Fauci's boss?

Mrs. McFarland's avatar

So, the POTUS should not be able to trust and believe government’s highest health officials? Yes or No? If Trump had for one second suggested that Fauci etc were maybe trying to pull one over on him…

Jim M's avatar

Don't feed the troll

Salusa Secundus Snape's avatar

Hmm... if I take you at your word that Fauci was some cunning deceiver, then that means Trump has been played by Fauci, Elon, Netanyahu, RFK,... at what point do we just admit the guy is a dumb fuck?

(Also, Trump's followers didn't start drinking fish tank cleaner because of anything Fauci said.)

Mrs. McFarland's avatar

I’m talking medicine, global epidemic, vaccines, shut downs… Trump trusted them. Don’t extrapolate.

Salusa Secundus Snape's avatar

Well... then Trump is incredibly stupid, isn't he? So why are you defending him?

Mrs. McFarland's avatar

No, he’s not but you’re suffering with TDS .. and he’s a lot of things I don’t like but dumb fuck is not one of them

BD's avatar

He's certainly not as "incredibly stupid" as you.

Mrs. McFarland's avatar

Fish tank cleaner was Trump’s misinterpreting “ Hydroxychloroquine “ … from a conversation with a NJ infectious disease doctor who was successfully treating COVID patients with PlaQUINel and abx. I know the physician

michael888's avatar

The US with 4.2% of the global population had 17.4% of the global Covid deaths. A lot of this 4-fold increase above global average was due to the insistence on mRNA vaccine MONOTHERAPY. Most countries that didn't have access to mRNA vaccines fared much better. HCQ and ivermectin are among the safest drugs. HCQ is approved since 2014 for treating type 2 diabetes in India (my doctor wouldn't let me try it?) The main toxicity for HCQ is rare retinal toxicity with chronic (years) use in autoimmune diseases. Of course, "dose makes the poison" and if you go far above therapeutic levels you can get toxicity (even with water or table salt).

The Elderly, the only group at major risk from Covid-- Israel said they had NO Covid deaths in healthy people under age 50-- are often deficient in vitamins and nutrients and probably more would have survived with supplements.

Heavily pigmented people far from the Equator are almost all deficient in vitamin D3 and early on Covid infections were shown to be 10-fold more common in the vitamin D deficient. Instead of encouraging vitamin D3 supplementation (probably for better health generally in this population, the CDC emphasized the danger of too much of this fat-soluble vitamin (water soluble nutrients are generally peed out and need to be constantly replenished). We really have no idea of the necessary levels of vitamin D (beyond that for preventing rickets), generally higher levels than recommended are safe. Vitamin D is the only fat soluble vitamin which is converted to an inactive form if the level get too high.

The Covid response in the US was abysmal, almost intentionally bad?

Salusa Secundus Snape's avatar

I am not at all scientifically literate enough to make heads or tails of this. Are you?

And once again: Who was in charge? It wasn't Fauci.

Ivor Allsop's avatar

You are confused. Trump was referring to Chlorine Dioxide. See book titled "The War on Chlorine Dioxide" by Dr. Pierre Kory. Its a great read by the way.

Mrs. McFarland's avatar

Nope. I know the ID doctor ( I’m not naming or where he lives), but I know for fact that he went to the White House to meet with Trump to explain his success treating his COVID patients with HCQ and abx ( I don’t know which one) . Trump learned of him via his appearances on a certain network news show. He was rather appalled when Trump started referencing “ chlorine “ and he backed off all media requests for interviews because all they wanted to ask him about was Trump all the while his own state medical board and hospitals were threatening to pull his license and privileges….an ID doc who cut his teeth in the late 80s on AIDS where he first encountered Fauci’s autocratic manner. His father, also a respected ID doctor diagnosed me in 95/96 with late Lyme which did not respond to 3 weeks amoxicillin and ultimately PlaQUINel and Cipro knocked it out. I had been to doctors for 8 months and not once tested for insect borne infections.

Salusa Secundus Snape's avatar

Well, a smart president wouldn't put people in the hospital that way would he?

Mrs. McFarland's avatar

Have a nice evening.

DNY's avatar

Stop beating the Trump drum. Trump is, indeed, an idiot when it come to solving problems because he always mistakenly trust his own judgement without realizing how little he knows (though he has a very good track record of identifying problems other people don't want to talk about, so idiot qua idiot he is not).

But this isn't about Trump. This is about Fauci and the COVID response which was the same under Trump and under Biden -- indeed much of what was wrong with it, pointless lockdowns, overselling the efficacy of the vaccines, including drumming people out of the military for refusing them, school closures, censorship of opposing views, got worse under Biden and at the state level were all worse in "blue" Democrat-controlled states.

SimulationCommander's avatar

Trump was certainly a dumb fuck in this instance, and there are others.

In fact, if getting Fauci and the rest of them means taking down Trump, sign me up.

Lisa's avatar

I must have been naive, but I am very disappointed in the journalism community, their willingness to be deceived. They are really a sad bunch. Thanks for writing this piece, but where are your colleagues?

Chris's avatar

Apologies to Matt who is the exception to this rule:

The press is a gang of cruel faggots. Journalism is not a profession or a trade. It is a cheap catch-all for fuckoffs and misfits—a false doorway to the backside of life, a filthy piss-ridden little hole nailed off by the building inspector, but just deep enough for a wino to curl up from the sidewalk and masturbate like a chimp in a zoo-cage.”

― Hunter S. Thompson,

SimulationCommander's avatar

(Now) being a journalist, I hate that this is true.

Chris's avatar

Apologies to you as well!

SimulationCommander's avatar

I figure as long as nobody but readers are paying me to write, I'm technically not part of that aspect of the job.

michael888's avatar

You are not part of State Media (you would probably be better compensated spewing the Official Narratives).

SimulationCommander's avatar

Of that there is no doubt.

Linda Burnett's avatar

Realizing it can't be easy, hoping you aware journalists stick it out.

Linda Burnett's avatar

Thank you for making me laugh. The sad thing is, it is kind of true.

SimulationCommander's avatar

They were literally paid off once by Big Pharma through advertising dollars, then again by the government to push vaccines.

ocjackel's avatar

Watch any MSM news cast and 75% their ads are pharma ads. MSM can't exist without pharma

SimulationCommander's avatar

And he who pays the piper calls the tune.....

bestuvall's avatar

there are ads for drugs for diseases that no one has

SimulationCommander's avatar

And often you can't even get that drug EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO because it's highly restricted to a specific subset of people.

michael888's avatar

mRNA offers potentially a cheap way to make gene therapy therapeutics. Unfortunately, we don't really know that much about which genes to silence (or increase) except possibly certain genetic diseases.

The toxicity of the mRNA vaccines and the mRNA platform itself should have been worked out in stage 4 cancer and other diseases with poor prognosis rather than giving the mRNA vaccines universally. They were neither safe nor effective.

bestuvall's avatar

and everyone wants them because. you know you have every symptom and side effects be damned

Dave Slate's avatar

Lots of those pharma ads are unintentionally funny: they show a bunch of people smiling and engaging in what look like some random selection of ordinary everyday activities, while meanwhile a somber voice drones on about all the horrible possible side effects of whatever drug they're pushing. I also think they may be running out of new names for the drugs, since they seem to be getting goofier and goofier. "Wegovy? Sure, let me get my coat!".

As more-or-less a libertarian/free-marketeer, I'm not sure these ads should be banned. They may provide useful information for some patients and health care providers. What a free-market requires is that the ads do not seriously misrepresent the pros and cons of their products.

Another observation about TV ads in general: nowadays they all seem to feature dogs. I can imagine conversations between a company and the ad agency they have hired:

Company: "Why does your proposed ad have a dog in it? Our product has nothing to do with dogs."

Ad agency: "Our research has determined that dogs elicit positive responses by viewers that lead to, on average, a 23% increase in sales revenue".

Lisa's avatar

So true. Plus you are right about the dogs. They are taking American jobs.

Dave Slate's avatar

That depends. If the dogs are domestic (rather than imported), selected without bias in favor of or against any specific breeds, and properly compensated with treats, affection, equal pay for equal work, paid family leave, good healthcare, etc., then I think it's okay.

Lisa's avatar

Also a Pharma friend told me they have special companies to come up with those drug names. They are richly compensated.

Dave Slate's avatar

I imagine that these drug naming companies are probably using sophisticated chatbots to predict what names will have the desired effect on the customers.

SimulationCommander's avatar

They already have REMIXES of their original jingles!

Eileen Thornton Renda's avatar

They are not “Deceived.” They are the “Deceivers.”

Marcia Gorham's avatar

It's scary the power these propagandists have.

VideoSavant's avatar

I don't think it's about willingness to be deceived.

It's an arrangement -- stenography services provided to the powerful in return for access.

And then access for the monetization win.

It may be more complicated than that, but that's the heartbeat of modern media.

Skip Scott's avatar

It always comes down to $$$. Big Pharma is one of the largest sources of income for main stream media, so they control content. They are not deceived, they are complicit.

Speak or write the truth and you lose your job.

DJ West's avatar

The comments I saw on the CBS news YouTube post regarding the Fauci trial were from an alternate universe. Every comment was Trump Trump Trump...blaming everything on him and talking about all of his other mistakes rather than focusing on the real story: Fauci and his cover-up.

These people live in a different world where everything Trump does is 100% evil and anyone who opposes him is 100% good and justified in doing whatever.

michael888's avatar

Arguably the biggest disasters were the vaccine passports and mandates.

bhs66's avatar

“…Dr Fauci was a poor choice for the role he eventually played, but what he did was not criminal “. Absolutely false! Fauci ignored Obama administration mandates to stop research on GOF on dangerous viruses. Furthermore he shipped it to Wuhan, funded it, laundered his funding through a subcontractor ECO health alliance. He lied about this under oath. He lied under other about the origin of the plandemic. Ethically he lied about masks, distancing, worst of all the vaccine. He’s a very bad guy, his “vaccine trials” in third world countries some on kids and beagles and sand flies. He needs to pay for his sins.

Candi Wease's avatar

There is no need to cover up good intentions, you cover up things to avoid accountability. These people behave like toddlers.

Salusa Secundus Snape's avatar

Fish rots from the head down, brother. How are you gonna let Fat Boy off the hook?

Also: It was a hearing, not a trial.

Candi Wease's avatar

"Fish rots from the head down." That explains your/this attitude. What troubles me about this TDS affliction is that the hatred is so consuming it removes any sense of empathy or reason for targets of the hatred to the point that you can't even manage logic for self preservation. (Mad scientist shouldn't create monster viruses and pandemics, and make us pay for it. you can't see that at all.) To you the only problem is Trump and not the fact that taxpayers were forced to pay for dangerous gain of function research that appears to have been created to usher in an era of compliance. This was combined with the psy-ops that created your current condition, attempts to censer and abusively gaslight dissenting arguments or even comments and questions, usher in tens of thousands of non citizens, make everyone get a shot that was also dangerous and doesn't appear to have managed the virus, they locked down the world, we had a senile President forced upon us, all while being bombarded with constant 24/7 propaganda which still hasn't ended, and your mental capabilities have been so damaged that you have lost the ability to question anyone but Trump or Republicans and you couldn't save yourself from anyone outside of the hate range that the propaganda allows because you abide unquestionably. Maybe you no longer have the capacity to see this but from where I sit your/this condition should be studied as an extension of whatever war is being waged against us. IT'S NOT NORMAL. and it appears you and many like you aren't able to disengage.

bhs66's avatar

Exactly Candi! She/they suffer from “mass formation psychosis” and it’s killing the country.

Candi Wease's avatar

I find it extremely difficult to pity the afflicted due to the abrasive and destructive nature of the condition. (not smart to try and cuddle a porcupine.) Out of self preservation or to preserve some balance of perspective, I mourn them instead. This is our Zombie apocalypse and we must come to some sort of solution to deal with the zombies sooner rather than later. One part of me feels a skosh but reluctance of guilt for the fact that I'm fresh out of fucks to give them even though I believe they are brainwashed.

bhs66's avatar

I can’t say I disagree with you but if they stay retarded, mentally ill, have mass formation psychosis, whatever you want to call it we’re pretty much doomed as a country. No matter what we try and do, take your pick, Russiagate, hunters laptop, demented president, Trump lawfare, Covid, illegal immigration, deportation of illegals, Kamala Harris, etc etc, the MSM(true enemy of the people), democrats will just keep lying and have no sense of accountability for what they’ve done. So far these damaged people are an implacable foe. They don’t learn lessons and there are enough useful idiots)now DSA fools) low information morons that make fighting with them like fighting the tar baby.

Candi Wease's avatar

A cure would be most desirable. A halt in propaganda would be most helpful in order for healing to occur. Fear of losing first amendment rights to these very people, who would take it quickly given the chance, makes a tricky go of trying to get any justice for the destructive nature of their agenda. They use that knowingly.

Mrs. McFarland's avatar

He is not a doctor or scientist. So he believed what they told him. And calling POTUS “ fat boy” disqualifies you

Salusa Secundus Snape's avatar

Well, he is enormously, disgustingly fat. This is not up for debate.

And if your excuse is "he was too stupid to know bad advice from good"... well, I guess that explains Iran as well.

BD's avatar

You possess NO reason or logic...so keep displaying your idiocy for us to enjoy.

Tim Hartin's avatar

I believe there is also a diary entry about the mortality rate being 0.02-3% shortly before he said publicly it was 2-3%. I think that might have been when he was boasting about triggering the worst day in NYSE history.

DSB's avatar

Great point. I think Matt Taibbi shared the Matt Orfalea video when it came out. It talked about a fatality rate above 3% and how the media skewered Trump for saying it was probably below 1%. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s5DYknp9cc

SimulationCommander's avatar

That video is an Orf masterpiece.

Tardigrade's avatar

The magic number was 3.4%.

SimulationCommander's avatar

He published that in the New England Journal of Medicine, yet nobody in the media seemed to know about it. (Orf being a shining exception)

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejme2002387

If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

SimulationCommander's avatar

He wrote this in February 2020 and by April 2020 we knew the paper was correct and that we were missing the vast vast majority of cases, because many people show no symptoms at all. (That's one of the symptoms!)

michael888's avatar

Jay Bhattacharya and co-workers at Stanford were crucified for discovering that the Covid infection rate was 50- to 85-fold higher by serology than the reported infection rates from Santa Clara hospitals/ clinics: medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20062463v1

Tardigrade's avatar

One of the co-authors of the Santa Clara study, John Ioannidis, had been one of the most-cited and highly-respected scientists in the world. Both he and Jay were almost canceled over that study.

Chris Gorman's avatar

Ioannidis and Battacharya's Santa Clara study was ridiculed for determining a mortality rate similar to that of a particularly bad flu strain. The Godfather of modern statistics had to defend himself against moronic PhDs. He got right on board with the vaccine though.

SimulationCommander's avatar

And once we figured that out, both in LA and NYC, the antibody testing suddenly stopped, because Karen would have been dumbfounded to find that covid swept through Timmy's school months ago and nobody noticed.

Randy Hujar's avatar

He will go down as one of the biggest mass murderers of all time and live in infamy.

Principles vs Tribes's avatar

These things never have consequences, but the ongoing problem is that the public doesn’t learn.

And how can it, when so many are actively committed to spinning the truth?

The threat of more Faucis is worse than the last Fauci, and it is as great as ever thanks to the effort to excuse Fauci.

What harm will the next one do?

SimulationCommander's avatar

Big Pharma is still all-in for combo mRNA shots, and they'll be marketed as "free" to people on government healthcare.

https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/a-quick-word-from-our-sponsors-at

Albert Bourla - Pfizer Inc. - Chairman of the Board & CEO

Clearly, we are working on -- and will continue despite the reduction of our operating expenses, we'll continue working, particularly on combination vaccines. Right now, we are the only company that has both an mRNA and an RSV, and we are working now on the flu. So clearly, as we are doing all of that, we are working on combinations that will help us enhance the -- how easy and convenient it is for patients to receive protection for respiratory diseases.

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So it's going to be a way more convenient if they will be offered with the same injection, not 2 or 3, the same injection and 0 co-pay to get free of charge, not 1, but 3 vaccines or 2. I think that will increase the vaccination rates of COVID and will bring them closer to flu. Of course, that remains to be seen, but this is our belief right now. That's why we continue very aggressively developing combination for our respiratory franchise vaccines.

Little Humpbacked Horse's avatar

I have finally ended the kabuki dance with my doctors. (I am 3yrs into a kidney graft and take all kinds of immuno suppressants.) I didn't get Covid until the second of the original shots. (Interesting that as a dialysis patient I wasn't given the jab until after all of the "essential" gummint personnel - my former coworkers in a Federal IT shop, all working at home.)

After the 3rd booster and my second bout with Covid I began challenging my doctors and refusing the mRNA "vaccine." I am very diligent staying current with my influenza, pneumonia and RSV. My doctors no longer mention Covid.

SimulationCommander's avatar

One of my good friends is a dentist. He was given priority for the shot even though he was 25ish at the time and had already recovered from covid. None of it made much sense.

DNY's avatar

Yes, one of the most idiotic (or evil -- take your pick) things about the COVID response was refusing to accept natural immunity in recovered patients and insisting they be vaccinated anyway.

SimulationCommander's avatar

If they admitted that acquired (natural) immunity was a thing, then millions of people would have (correctly) made the decision -- like I did -- that the best thing to do would be to get infected ASAP and get over the bug without passing it on. That actually turned you into the 'firebreak' they promised the vaccines were.

It still took me 20 months and an infected "vaccinated" friend before I got the virus, and I got over it in like 3 days exactly as predicted. No covid since.

Judith Cohen's avatar

It will be harder and harder to avoid those mRNA shots

SimulationCommander's avatar

Therefore it will be harder and harder to suss out the fact they're doing damage.

Ollo Gorog's avatar

Spot on, JD! The lie has become too lucrative a device. Even a crappy lie if it's timed well, can financially set someone for life, and there's little if any downside. It's like a slot machine that doesn't require a coin for pull - just keep pulling the lever and you will win.

Salusa Secundus Snape's avatar

And... what did Fauci do exactly? I forget why you guys hate him so much. He invented Covid right in his kitchen... is that the conspiracy?

Little Humpbacked Horse's avatar

I'm old school. My standard is "appearance of impropriety." (Yep, I get called lots of names for criticizing dear leader.) The damage done by the draconian public health measures in response to a pandemic only marginally more severe than a new influenza is simply staggering.

Dr Fauci probably won't be punished officially, but he deserves every bit of ridicule and humiliation that he is receiving. This is the digital equivalent of being put in the stocks so the crowd can through rotten food. (Especially given the way that he fumbled AIDS way back when.)

He should become an example for other powerful public health officials tempted to exercise such power when they really don't understand the problem yet.

Salusa Secundus Snape's avatar

"The damage done by the draconian public health measures in response to a pandemic only marginally more severe than a new influenza is simply staggering."

And if we knew that it was only that kind of disease from the beginning, we might have acted differently. But it was brand new, wasn't it?

The US didn't behave much different from every other country in their response to COVID. I truly do not grok this scapegoating.

Little Humpbacked Horse's avatar

Bingo! We have survived inumerable pandemics before. I suspect that the reason for the general overreaction was the strong suspicion that this virus leaked from a lab coincidentally located in Wuhan. It was the response to a biological weapon. It was an undeclared state of war.

The initial responses might just have been justified. It was the prolonged state of siege that makes Fauci, Birx et al. deserving of ignominy. The lethality of Covid, especially to the young, was understood very early on. When Fauci argued against opening schools he was obviously currying favor with Teachers' Unions and others and he knew it.

Bryan Pione's avatar

Shut up dude. Are you faucis burner account 😂. Also yes if we still had stockades and public humiliation I guarantee much of this stuff would be solved

SimulationCommander's avatar

He did know. That's why we're pissed, idiot.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejme2002387

If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

Little Humpbacked Horse's avatar

My original comment was: "Who is 'we" kimo sabe?"

Mike's avatar

He illegally funded creating a disease designed to kill people which then killed people. Frankly, that's enough, He should be in jail for it. But, it also killed a lot of people, so many people, 1.1 million in the US alone, ~20 million worldwide. It's truly hard to wrap one's mind around the suffering, pain and death that was caused. I just can't. But that easily enough makes him one of the worst humans in history.

But hey, he also covered it up and caused a huge swath of massive human damage across the country and did it all for his own power, glory and money.

I'd be happy if he got charged with killing 0.1% of the people that died in the US alone. In comparison, worldwide deaths,

Pol Pot 2 million

Hitler 11 million

Fauci 20 million

Stalin 20 million

Genghis Kan 40 Million

Mao 80 million

I mean he is no Mao or Genghis, but he does make Hitler look like a piker. And to be fair, the historical norm is for these guys to receive power, glory and money... and not be punished. So we're right on par as a civilization. But if we forced fed Fauci speed for a couple years, then buried him in a bunker with only a pistol, I would be somewhat satisfied.

VideoSavant's avatar

You seem to know everything about everything.

So, can you tell me...where's the mute button here?

BD's avatar

They, quite simply, do not make 'em dumber that you.

Mad Dog's avatar

There's an old joke about a man who hires a private detective because he believes his wife is cheating on him. He explains that he'd already hired two other detectives, but neither could produce proof of her infidelity.

A few days later the detective reports back. He followed the wife to a bar, where she met another man. He tailed them to a hotel, then climbed to the roof of a building across the street. Through the window he watched them enter a room. The man undressed her, she undressed him...

"What happened then?" the husband demands.

"Then they turned out the light, and I couldn't see anything else," the detective replies.

"See why this is driving me crazy?" the husband shouts. "There's never any proof!"

That's how much of the media has approached the recently released Fauci diary. Critics point to entries they believe are difficult to reconcile with Dr. Fauci's public statements and congressional testimony, particularly regarding the possibility that COVID-19 originated in a Wuhan laboratory. Yet many news accounts stop short of asking whether those apparent inconsistencies deserve closer scrutiny.

Reasonable people can disagree about what the diary proves. It is fair to say that a diary is not the same thing as a sworn admission of wrongdoing. But it is equally fair to ask whether the diary raises questions that were previously dismissed too quickly. If the standard is that nothing counts unless Fauci literally wrote, "Today I lied to the American people," then the standard has become so demanding that almost no amount of circumstantial evidence could ever satisfy it.

Exercising one's Fifth Amendment rights is not, by itself, evidence of guilt, and it should not be treated that way. Even so, when viewed alongside the controversy surrounding the presidential pardon he ultimately received, it's understandable why many people believe these developments warrant more skeptical coverage than they have received.

Christopher B's avatar

This is a bit pedantic but I've read many comments from lawyers who caution the requirement to discount exercising the 5th as evidence of guilt only applies to criminal defendants, and judges routinely instruct juries in civil trials they can make reasonable inferences about refusal to provide testimony.

DarkSkyBest's avatar

Your even tone is admirable. But this Covid exercise requires an autopsy. By dispassionate parties. Covid 2.0 will happen, and I bet TPTB are already game-playing how to deal with our reactions to their first go at it, which worked out really well for them.

Mad Dog's avatar

Thank you for your kind words. If nothing else, I hope that our shared experience with Covid will lead some Americans to reject credentialism as the ultimate arbiter of truth.

Ollo Gorog's avatar

It's done to avoid self-incrimination. How can that not be evidence of guilt? It's like saying, "I'm not going to speak, because if I do I'll provide evidence of my guilt, so I'm going to keep silent and force justice to prove my guilt. Maybe I'll get lucky."

I find it hard to believe that there are many (any?) people who've taken the 5th, and then were not prosecuted for some crime.

Mad Dog's avatar

That's a fair point, but consider a hypothetical.

Suppose someone is murdered, and you had a well-known feud with the victim. The police ask where you were that Saturday afternoon. The truth is that you were riding your motorcycle, hiking in the woods, or visiting your mother's grave—alone, with no receipts, no witnesses, and no way to prove it.

Then investigators produce an old acquaintance who says she's fairly sure she saw you in a crowd downtown, about a mile from the murder scene. Is she mistaken? Maybe. Can you prove she is? Probably not.

Before you answered any questions, the evidence against you was weak. At most, the police could say you might have been somewhere in the general area, along with hundreds or thousands of other people. But once you gave a statement, they could attack your credibility. "He said he was in the woods, but a witness places him downtown. Why would an innocent man lie about where he was?"

That's precisely why the Fifth Amendment exists. It isn't based on the idea that only guilty people remain silent. It's based on the recognition that innocent people can be mistaken, have imperfect memories, or simply be unable to prove where they were or what they were doing. A person shouldn't be forced into making statements that the government can later use to create the appearance of guilt.

Remaining silent isn't proof of innocence, any more than it's proof of guilt. It simply preserves the principle that the burden of proving a crime rests with the accuser, not with the accused. In a free society, the government must prove its case with evidence. It shouldn't be able to shift the burden by compelling someone to help build the case against himself.

Ollo Gorog's avatar

There's an old Chinese proverb that goes something like, "If a man puts himself in front of finger of suspicion, he should expect to get poked." That's the way it works. It may be unfortunate for people who get caught up in suspicion, but you don't deal with that by keeping silent. Of course get a lawyer, but doing a blanket "fuck you" to the system is NOT the way it works.

steven t koenig's avatar

When the village becomes 50% idiots it becomes an insane asylum

SimulationCommander's avatar

Maybe that's why we're importing them as quickly as possible.

Patrick's avatar

100%. (That was a coffee snorter, too bad its the evening)

mike moakley's avatar

How can 'the best and brightest' scientist of our time (who recommended that HIV positive people be separated from society in the 1980's) be stupid enough to record his 'diary' on a government owned computer? With all the FOIA flak incoming, he's recording how talking with Babs and Julia is 'just dreamy'. Moron...

quarkdetector's avatar

...look at it from the point of view if you wanted to *create* a sort of legacy where you are just a pawn in the chess game ... Fauci's diary is vague in places deliberately ... if your right hand guy was in China (Feb 16-23, 2020) wouldn't you note that? ... Why didn't Fauci? ... what I got from reading the diary were the contradictions ... Trump is great ... Trump is bad ... moles trying to undermine him yet he sets himself apart from undermining anyone else ... loves the attention (Fauci Five) claiming he doesn't like the attention, then claiming *they* won't let him have the attention he deserves ... complicated guy ... but a survivor of the DC power game and a dedicated WeBe (We Be here before you, We Be here AFTER you) ...

Les Vitailles's avatar

He should have taken a lesson from Hillary Clinton: move all your government work to a private server and then you're breaking the FOIA Law but nobody can get to your writings ... not in time, anyway.

Little Humpbacked Horse's avatar

He is SCIENCE incarnate. Just ask him.

DSB's avatar

Moron: IQ 50–70 (Mild deficiency; capable of basic self-care and simple labor but lacking complex judgment).

Imbecile: IQ 25–50 (Moderate deficiency; could learn simple routines under supervision).

Idiot: IQ below 25 (Profound deficiency; required constant supervision and could not self-protect).

Lower?

Judith Cohen's avatar

Thank you for covering this so incisively and deeply the way you always do on a story you commit to.

Marilyn's avatar

I know how frustrating it is to have facts and the Trump haters don’t care. And remember the press was complicit in the cover-up and they’re not going to say they were wrong. This is what happens when you have censorship. The elites just fucked it up, but they’ll never admit it, and that’s the way it is.

Steve Smith's avatar

Woke, big government legacy media denizens refuse to look for something they don't want to find and then decry loudly, There Is No Evidence!

SimulationCommander's avatar

"We called up the people accused of fraud. They assured us there was no fraud. Case closed."

steven t koenig's avatar

Isn't that the Somali pledge of allegiance?

reel life's avatar

In some ways, this is like the Hunter Biden laptop story. Initially, it was (probably) a Russia fake. Next, it was authentic, but just about poor Hunter's drug addiction, and his doting dad's natural instinct to protect him. Finally, it's old and stale and let's move on. I saw Stephanie Ruhle on MSNOW say it was useless to "relitigate" the covid issue.

BD's avatar

Yes, Stephanie Ruhle is another one of those "geniuses".

DarkSkyBest's avatar

For free-thinking real people who aren’t psychopaths —

Why is it so hard to demand a forensic analysis of what actually happened and how our government and society responded to this threat? The need is so obvious.

It must be very threatening to those in every power flexible position that took the bull by the horns to now just be Looked At.

It is to weep that we have so few real comedians anymore. What would Carlin, Pryor, Monty Python, Carson, Dangerfield, etc, etc, etc do to demolish this idiocy. That would have helped — a lot.

Lekimball's avatar

And it is just not a stretch to see why Trump thinks the media is the enemy of the people! They simply lie and do not report the news anymore. It's not even spinning it more favorably--it's outright lies. What they do on Fox News is they report or have Democrats give the facts. And their spin on it. They don't deny them--they just debate them. Supply the part they leave out. It isn't hard to out debate a leftist anymore which is why they just lie and/or silence the right. They believe that the right is so evil ANYTHING they do to take power from them is legitimate. By any means necessary. Why anyone believes them is beyond me. The left has success getting people to refuse to listen to Fox News and then they just lie to them--and inexplicably --it flies.

DarkSkyBest's avatar

Your point, The point — By any means necessary. We are watching this play out and it is sick.