That all went out the window when the Bush Administration called them "first responders" and gave them funding and access to all the tactical gear they could handle. Dumbest move ever, but what did we expect from that tard. That I sadly voted for twice.
That all went out the window when the Bush Administration called them "first responders" and gave them funding and access to all the tactical gear they could handle. Dumbest move ever, but what did we expect from that tard. That I sadly voted for twice.
We probably wouldn't have ended up here if it weren't for people like John Kerry and Dick Cheney. Cheney was an example of a chest thumping chickenhawk patriotism (like the rest of the neocons) and Kerry the polar opposite, a craven surrender monkey position. There was a middle ground, but it was never on offer except with Trump, and you got it along with a bunch of baggage I personally wasn't interested in. The chickenhawks are back.
Was never a big fan of Kerry, but I thought "swiftboating" was a new political low, on the level of Willie Horton.
At least the dude went. Was I there with him? No. Is it very easy to stab a fellow servicemember in the back years after the fact with unsubstantiable allegations? Yes.
He had a lot of bad things to say about America when he came home in the early 70s. There was a group with the daggers out ready for him when he ran for office. They were unable to do him harm at the time in the 70s because their theology (word carefully chosen) was not ascendant at the time. Analogy, though not perfect: Jane Fonda.
This might have to stay in the realm of respectful disagreement, but I'm not prepared to harshly critique any VN vet "who had a lot of bad things to say about America when he came home in the early 70s."
Jane had no skin in the game. Voguing for the cameras. The master class and the servant class clearly delineated.
I think Kerry could have criticized the war effort without throwing so many of his fellow soldiers under the bus. That's what ultimately caused the swiftboating. Bush's campaign apparatus was insufficent to cook up something like that. Karl Rove is no say, Roger Ailes. I am not supporting US Vietnam policy by any stretch of the imagination. My first memories of anything besides my childhood home are body counts on Cronkite.
Fair enough! Kerry did his own amount of voguing for the cameras.
...I guess I just dislike voguers and selfie-ists at some fundamental level, but DC, NYC and the internet seem to love them. That's why things are the way they are.
I am not sure it was any lower than those fake air national guard papers about Bush. It was a dirty campaign. Willie Horton was a pretty low blow. Atwater was an evil genius. I doubt that would work today.
That all went out the window when the Bush Administration called them "first responders" and gave them funding and access to all the tactical gear they could handle. Dumbest move ever, but what did we expect from that tard. That I sadly voted for twice.
I sadly voted for Obama twice. As Bill Clinton would say, "I feel your pain."
Matt's readers seem mostly to be a seething mass of discontents with no political home who feel betrayed by the system. It's great.
We probably wouldn't have ended up here if it weren't for people like John Kerry and Dick Cheney. Cheney was an example of a chest thumping chickenhawk patriotism (like the rest of the neocons) and Kerry the polar opposite, a craven surrender monkey position. There was a middle ground, but it was never on offer except with Trump, and you got it along with a bunch of baggage I personally wasn't interested in. The chickenhawks are back.
"Other priorities."
Was never a big fan of Kerry, but I thought "swiftboating" was a new political low, on the level of Willie Horton.
At least the dude went. Was I there with him? No. Is it very easy to stab a fellow servicemember in the back years after the fact with unsubstantiable allegations? Yes.
He had a lot of bad things to say about America when he came home in the early 70s. There was a group with the daggers out ready for him when he ran for office. They were unable to do him harm at the time in the 70s because their theology (word carefully chosen) was not ascendant at the time. Analogy, though not perfect: Jane Fonda.
This might have to stay in the realm of respectful disagreement, but I'm not prepared to harshly critique any VN vet "who had a lot of bad things to say about America when he came home in the early 70s."
Jane had no skin in the game. Voguing for the cameras. The master class and the servant class clearly delineated.
I think Kerry could have criticized the war effort without throwing so many of his fellow soldiers under the bus. That's what ultimately caused the swiftboating. Bush's campaign apparatus was insufficent to cook up something like that. Karl Rove is no say, Roger Ailes. I am not supporting US Vietnam policy by any stretch of the imagination. My first memories of anything besides my childhood home are body counts on Cronkite.
Fair enough! Kerry did his own amount of voguing for the cameras.
...I guess I just dislike voguers and selfie-ists at some fundamental level, but DC, NYC and the internet seem to love them. That's why things are the way they are.
Much better analogy: Lincoln Project.
I am not sure it was any lower than those fake air national guard papers about Bush. It was a dirty campaign. Willie Horton was a pretty low blow. Atwater was an evil genius. I doubt that would work today.