You mean phony she doesn't believe what she says? She is one of the most articulate people I've ever heard, it's hard to believe she's not speaking honestly. I dunno, you could be right and at the end of the day it doesn't matter as long as she stays the course AFAIC. I can be really naive, but I'm also really sensitive and cynicism to that degree is hard to live with.
You mean phony she doesn't believe what she says? She is one of the most articulate people I've ever heard, it's hard to believe she's not speaking honestly. I dunno, you could be right and at the end of the day it doesn't matter as long as she stays the course AFAIC. I can be really naive, but I'm also really sensitive and cynicism to that degree is hard to live with.
Thank you Grisha, I do know that (said without snark). Having trouble saying what I mean... I think I mean - I don't follow her closely. Virtually everything I hear her say sounds smart (if not no-brainer) and exactly right to me. Same with Matt, for example, that's why I love him. In both cases I have trouble believing that dishonesty is the underlying foundation of what they are saying. And, in the immortal words of Warren Beatty, "There's nothing to say off-camera. Why would you say something if it's off-camera? What point is there existing?" ;)
That's fair. I know nothing about her voting record, but I also try to be a realist and not hold the Bernies and AOCs of the world to a standard of purity that prevents them from engaging in politics (ie horsetrading, picking battles) and gaining power over the long term. But again, I'm basically talking out of my ass here.
You mean phony she doesn't believe what she says? She is one of the most articulate people I've ever heard, it's hard to believe she's not speaking honestly. I dunno, you could be right and at the end of the day it doesn't matter as long as she stays the course AFAIC. I can be really naive, but I'm also really sensitive and cynicism to that degree is hard to live with.
"She is one of the most articulate people I've ever heard, it's hard to believe she's not speaking honestly."
I gently request you to reconsider this assumption.
"Articulate" isn't "honest" any more than "beauty" is "virtue."
I've watched AOC make her career by blurring these lines; always for the camera.
Thank you Grisha, I do know that (said without snark). Having trouble saying what I mean... I think I mean - I don't follow her closely. Virtually everything I hear her say sounds smart (if not no-brainer) and exactly right to me. Same with Matt, for example, that's why I love him. In both cases I have trouble believing that dishonesty is the underlying foundation of what they are saying. And, in the immortal words of Warren Beatty, "There's nothing to say off-camera. Why would you say something if it's off-camera? What point is there existing?" ;)
Bullshit on the "most articulate" bit. You need to expand your network.
AOC is not a deep thinker. It doesn't mean she's wrong on everything, but relying on her intellect would be a mistake.
As in the votes don't match the rhetoric.
That's fair. I know nothing about her voting record, but I also try to be a realist and not hold the Bernies and AOCs of the world to a standard of purity that prevents them from engaging in politics (ie horsetrading, picking battles) and gaining power over the long term. But again, I'm basically talking out of my ass here.