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Ann Robinson's avatar

I expect they perceive themselves as vulnerable to terror as we do, esp of the home-grown kind. If they deny us use of their air bases it will change the Western world order. For all the sniping and nit-picking the details, both our continents are Western liberal democracies. As long as that holds, we have more in common than we don’t

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Kelly Green's avatar

I agree. One big difference, and this was a discussion on another story the other day, is that the Western countries will now differ based on if populists have adequate access to the democratic process and win elections (USA, Italy, Hungary) or elites in a given country have control of the process (Romania, where lawfare/Russiagate succeeded, and countries still under elite controlled thinking like Canada)

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Ann Robinson's avatar

The EU is as close as you can get to elite without being royalty. Depending on who's talking and what day it is the EU is seen over here as either a useful Sugar Daddy or a big pain. Non-Western immigration has thrown a real monkey wrench into a workable level of comfort with the EU. The Europeans I talk to at this point are more antagonistic than annoyed. I sense a real transition in the world - ferment, anxiety, broad dissatisfaction and discomfort, hard to know where it,s going, maybe another dark age, maybe another renaissance.

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