Because people are told, from the time they’re very young, that you won’t be able to survive without a college degree. The “crap about it necessary to get a job” is ingrained into people’s heads from a very young age. And yeah, you’re right, you can get a job without a college degree. But that job is probably gonna suck and you won’t mak…
Because people are told, from the time they’re very young, that you won’t be able to survive without a college degree. The “crap about it necessary to get a job” is ingrained into people’s heads from a very young age. And yeah, you’re right, you can get a job without a college degree. But that job is probably gonna suck and you won’t make much money doing it. Take it from me, someone who didn’t go to college and has aged out of my chosen profession at 46 years old. I’ve worked for one year out of the last four years. Also, there was a time, not that long ago, when going to college didn’t mean spending $50,000 or more a year. To go to a state college as recently as the 70’s was something that was easily do-able. Shit, man, in the 60’s, people could own a home and raise a family earning minimum wage. If you can’t answer your asinine question,”Why do people go to college at all?” yourself, you’re an asshole.
True. the public college I attended (University of Illinois at Chicago-70s) cost $300 a year for tuition and I waitressed (free food!) and paid it w/ no debt. No phone or Internet to pay for. Public transpiration, no car. Not the same today. Tuition is now $13,874--could not prob. waitress that.
No, that was a very, very long time ago. Things began changing around the late 80s/early 90s and was plain for all to see. I remember reading when the bankrupcy laws were changed to exclude student loans and thinking, "Well, that's nasty" My formal education was over by then so I didn't think much more about it but the red flags were there.
But what if you don’t have a proclivity for welding, electrical work or HVAC stuff? Or what if you just don’t want to do that? We should all just skip college and become welders? That’s ridiculous. I mean, honestly, I wish I was a welder, because then I could maybe get some work. As it is right now, I’m not seeing a job any time in my chosen profession in the near future. Or distant future, either.
News flash: doing whatever you like without regard for self-support is called childhood, retirement, or just plain delusion. Why do you think people get paid to do work?
If you don't like welding there are other trades to try your hand at. If you're of a more academic persuasion then learn to code. If you don't want to work on computers then study and get into a highly ranked med/law school where you can actually pay off the debt after graduation. If you're not well connected, you're not academically inclined enough to get in to at a bare minimum top 100 university in a field that pays well (ie not major in a field which ends with the word 'studies'), you don't like computers, and you don't want to get dirty in the trades, then follow your inner muse and live with your life choices.
as a computer science grad who spent years fruitlessly looking for a programming job before settling out of the industry my brain screams a bit every time somebody flippantly invokes "learn to code" like you're just gonna pick up a textbook and walk into a job. duh dude why don't you just learn to be a TV broadcaster a fuckin monkey could do it.
Because people are told, from the time they’re very young, that you won’t be able to survive without a college degree. The “crap about it necessary to get a job” is ingrained into people’s heads from a very young age. And yeah, you’re right, you can get a job without a college degree. But that job is probably gonna suck and you won’t make much money doing it. Take it from me, someone who didn’t go to college and has aged out of my chosen profession at 46 years old. I’ve worked for one year out of the last four years. Also, there was a time, not that long ago, when going to college didn’t mean spending $50,000 or more a year. To go to a state college as recently as the 70’s was something that was easily do-able. Shit, man, in the 60’s, people could own a home and raise a family earning minimum wage. If you can’t answer your asinine question,”Why do people go to college at all?” yourself, you’re an asshole.
True. the public college I attended (University of Illinois at Chicago-70s) cost $300 a year for tuition and I waitressed (free food!) and paid it w/ no debt. No phone or Internet to pay for. Public transpiration, no car. Not the same today. Tuition is now $13,874--could not prob. waitress that.
Exactly! $300 a year might have been a lot in the 70’s, but I can guarantee you that, adjusting for inflation, it isn’t equal to $20,000 today.
No, that was a very, very long time ago. Things began changing around the late 80s/early 90s and was plain for all to see. I remember reading when the bankrupcy laws were changed to exclude student loans and thinking, "Well, that's nasty" My formal education was over by then so I didn't think much more about it but the red flags were there.
Thank you President Biden: How Senator Biden helped create the student debt problem ---backed a 2005 bill that stripped students of bankruptcy protections and left millions in financial stress https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/02/joe-biden-student-loan-debt-2005-act-2020
It's true that people say this, but the lie was laid bare in the '90s.
Check what welders, electricians, or HVAC repairmen charge.
But what if you don’t have a proclivity for welding, electrical work or HVAC stuff? Or what if you just don’t want to do that? We should all just skip college and become welders? That’s ridiculous. I mean, honestly, I wish I was a welder, because then I could maybe get some work. As it is right now, I’m not seeing a job any time in my chosen profession in the near future. Or distant future, either.
IBEW is good and electrician work can be indoors.
News flash: doing whatever you like without regard for self-support is called childhood, retirement, or just plain delusion. Why do you think people get paid to do work?
If you don't like welding there are other trades to try your hand at. If you're of a more academic persuasion then learn to code. If you don't want to work on computers then study and get into a highly ranked med/law school where you can actually pay off the debt after graduation. If you're not well connected, you're not academically inclined enough to get in to at a bare minimum top 100 university in a field that pays well (ie not major in a field which ends with the word 'studies'), you don't like computers, and you don't want to get dirty in the trades, then follow your inner muse and live with your life choices.
as a computer science grad who spent years fruitlessly looking for a programming job before settling out of the industry my brain screams a bit every time somebody flippantly invokes "learn to code" like you're just gonna pick up a textbook and walk into a job. duh dude why don't you just learn to be a TV broadcaster a fuckin monkey could do it.