Newly released chats and emails between the authors of a crucial scientific paper leave no doubt: an unprecedented official disinformation campaign accompanied the arrival of Covid-19
Thank you for reminding us all what real journalism and speaking truth to power looks like. A shining beacon compared to our demoralized, shilling, lying corporate media. How do we help others escape the proverbial cave and see the light?
How do you help others see the light? Well.....do you expect to keep those people as friends and colleagues? My 2 cents: the wokesters will never admit to their being woke.
Why do I say that? Try telling one of these people about how Obama allowed the bankers to skate prosecution in exchange for his vast real estate holdings, post-presidency.....and watch their head's explode. I mean, how dare you ever point fingers at Saint Obama. *serious eye roll
Then, once they've cleaned up their brains from THAT, mention if they know who let the CEOs of the Insurance Industry dictate the stipulations of the ACA....itself based on the model of lobbyists/big business ushered in by Romney in MA.
Including every bit of the culture wars (remember the settled science) and the disastrous last 7 years. Without Obama, Hilary wouldn’t have gotten away with Russian Collusion, Comey & Brennan & Clapper wouldn’t have gone on tv for YEARS claiming Trump was a Russian asset & Hilary a victim, no Mueller & Crossfire Hurricane, no impeachments, and on & on & on. I wonder what the Trump Presidency (2 terms) would have been w/o the disastrous Obama? He is rotten to the core as are all leading Dems and some Reps too. I’m utterly disgusted.
In Obama's defense, he presciently imposed a moratorium on GoFRoC/ePPP research in 2014, which Trump in 2017 then lifted, at Fauci's instigation. The origin of covid narrative collusion coordinated by Fauci et al was driven by politics. The underlying issue however, the egregious dangers of GoFRoC/ePPP research - a tiny subset of all virology that has no civilian applications and neither preempted nor predicted the covid pandemic - should never have become a partisan issue. That too is a huge own goal by Dems that I find extremely baffling. Instead of spearheading efforts to ban GoFRoC/ePPP research, they cheerled campaigns denouncing anyone asserting the plausibility of a research-related origin of covid as loons, kooks, cranks, or conspiracy theorists.
Obama "may" have put a moratorium on the research - but didn't Fauci move it offshore at that point? I don't believe for one minute that someone in the corrupt Obama admin did not know about that. We fund a lot of biolabs all over the world in countries where the controls are not as stringent.
That may well be the case. Just trying to show that the origin of covid should never have become a partisan issue. Fauci served under 7 presidents and it was Cheney who drove the huge budget increase for the NIAID and its pivot towards biodefense. Fauci has championed GoFRoC/ePPP research for decades.
Honestly, I don't think he has been outdone by Biden. I think Biden is just a frontman who is there to allow Obama to continue implementing his policies. Biden without Obama would still be just a bumbling blowhard, moving through the halls of congress, scooping up foreign bribes, but with out power to do any lasting harm to the American people as a whole.
I'll tell you a story: when I was doing my investigations into the forgeries the banks were committing in 2011, I spent 2 sessions in my Statehouse doing volunteer lobby work to see if we could get legislation passed to protect our homes from unlawful foreclosure. During this time, I decided to investigate the legislators' own property documents. My assumption was that if I was finding forgeries in our documents, surely I would find forgeries in their documents. Of course I found forgeries in their documents. What I also found was legislators getting surprising refinancing offers at precisely the correct time to save their own houses from foreclosure. In addition, I found other legislators buying up cheap foreclosures, when they should have been helping the same constituents' homes from the auction block.
This little dive into the political world made me understand that anyone in office has an agenda. Whether it's the Pelosi's buying stock at just the right time, or Obama saving the bankers in exchange for his amazing real estate portfolios and book/Netflix deals......they all are in the game of politics for themselves and not us.
Appalling to hear the CDC’s Robert Redfield speak of this debacle as a good thing for the military and population to have a bioweapon with another injected bioweapon following for our “defense” against a plethora of BWs. I know plenty of people who sailed through the shots, but I doubt any are feeling protected or thankful for the holy shot.
The mushroom people prefer the clammy darkness. Most I know were well aware of the science-denying positions they adopted - twas and is an essential feature of their status anxiety and that of the 'experts' who elected to promote falsehoods and deceptions. For the moment, it's their world, we just live in it.
You don't Yuri - you can try to instruct young people, their BS-ometers aren't completely broken, unlike the mask wearing alone in the car star bellied Sneetch Progressives I see every day here in NYC.
That's easy. It won't. I certainly won't. Which is a damn shame because future good advice will probably be ignored. But that's what happens when credibility is completely tarnished.
How does the public ever trust science? Well, we won't.
But the bigger question is: how does the public ever trust governments and media? Take a look at what Gov Inslee did with WA State. That goon should not only NOT be in government, he should be arrested. But thanks to people who cannot critically think, he is still Governor.
I trust science. I don't trust entities that would bastardize science to promote their agenda, and the Federal government is at the top of the list. NASA needs to get out of the climate change religion.
Whose science? And what about the entities who fund the "scientists"?
I dated a scientist in college. He most assuredly was the smartest person I have ever known. However, he ended up being the scientist who was the expert witness for PG&E testifying that hexavalent chromium was safe to drink. Obviously, Erin Brokovich won that argument and she was not a scientist. So, why would anyone believe science? It all depends on the funders.
IMHO, the current scientific process is warped. As today, most scientists are funded by corporations, NGOs or government. And everyone has an agenda. So, whose agenda do you believe? Because I know damn well that the scientist isn't going to go against their funders, just like what was exposed here.
Sure, but if you think money is an issue only for some people, just look at the cost of submitting an article to Nature journal. You could buy yourself a new Ducati motorcycle for the cost of one article. Everyone is in the soup.
It is not a trust in science, but a trust in how the science is reported to the non-scientists.
Face it, science is theory based on observation. Science gets more refined as it is able to measure things to a finer degree. But that puts science and the understanding of science in different disciplines further and further apart and there is no more DaVinci's or Galileo's and their like who understand a great many fields. Scientists are becoming more and more specialized and may not be aware of what another disassociated scientist may see in his results.
Politicians use scientists to drive their political agenda. You can make any scientist look like a crackpot by just how you present their work.
We need a really good solar storm to fry out the electric world we live in so we can go back to the days where little information traveled slowly from spot to spot.
“I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you're being had.
Let's be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus.
There is no such thing as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.”
My personal favorite is "settled science". Does that mean they settled for the most likely result or does it mean the matter is settled so shut the fuck up!!. I think the latter.
There is a limit to how much time and energy people can give to reevaluating apparently good results. But some people have more time and energy than others, and may want to do the work. Hence, they could question Evolution through natural selection yet again, or take another look at flat-earth theory. But most of us will not want to do that (consensus), so the science may be said to be settled -- for the moment -- because no one is stirring it up.
Well, reproducible results may create consensus for a time until new theorems are invesitgated and old principles are revised. (tho recent investigation reveals the data is often corrupt/fabricated) And vis a vis specialists: in medicine, for example, there is an endless assortment of microspecialists. And I am in favor of that approach (I'll take the neurosurgeon whose focus is brain tumors over the one whose focus is spinal cord - or the colorectal surgeon, thanks.) THAT SAID: there is something important to be said about the generalist in science and medicine. The ability to grasp big picture concepts as well as possess the analytical skills to see through - beyond, if you will - the data, is able to perceive the impact of the malady or newest development and its impact on the individual human seeking help or the world at large seeking knowledge. I love this insight of Chricton's, AND, as all things in my worldview, there's more to it than that. 🤷🏻♀️ And that's what I love about science.
Thanks for reminding me of this quote. I remember using part of it to try to get pro vax people off my back when I wasn’t vaccinating my kids years ago (well before Covid) because that was always their argument; consensus.
This ignores survivor bias. We forget the theories that turned out to be wrong even if, in their own time, they may have had the best evidence. For example, the Ptolmaic theory of celestial mechanics gave more accurate results than the Copernican; scientists were attracted to the Copernican more for its aesthetic qualities than its accuracy. When we go into any new field of investigation, we are often confronted by a chaos in which there are no clear rules of evaluation. Hence the reliance on reproducibility and consensus (which, if we are sensible, are not held to be infallible).
As for politics, it is the devil that is always around. No one should be saying, "We are above politics and self-interest", but rather "It would be good if we were above politics and self-interest, but being human, we are not, so we had better watch out for them in ourselves and in others."
Crichton is too idealistic. Thomas Kuhn showed us, awhile ago and persuasively, what actually happens in science. Science isn't a machine, so it doesn't work that way, no matter how rigorous the method(s).
You win the internet today! It is the horrid, politicized reporting that drives the "narratives". I got my first dose of this when I read the original paper about the "drowning polar bears". The actual facts were that 4 dead, floating polar bear carcasses were spotted from an airplane, and the authors suggested that they had drown while swimming, and further, that this was due to human-caused climate change. There was not one shred of evidence as to how the bears had died since the carcasses were not examined - they may have been shot by hunters for example. Based on this one very bad "scientific" paper, an entire narrative was born about polar bears drowning while swimming long distances between vanishing ice floes due to ...you know the rest. I am a retired research scientist and I am ashamed of my profession - probably not as ashamed as Matt is of his though.
I have this dark wish, too, sometimes. But what I really wish is that there was a way to fry the internet while leaving our lights (and AC and fridges, etc.) on. Sigh.
Sadly, an old high school friend declared on FaceBook that he was starting to mask again, especially since the east bay had stopped reporting covid "deaths".
I trust tons of scientists, but ones whose work is wrapped up in politics and links to social control and authoritarian politics? Yeah, they have to prove to me that they can be trusted, mainly by just showing their damn work.
“We have on high dictated that x is the new scientific consensus.”
“Why, and who?”
“Trust us bro, also you’re a racist conspiracy theorist for even asking why.”
One of the easiest ways to tell science from Science™ is to simply look to see whether there is a remarkably unsubtle government- and media-orchestrated effort to censor opposing opinions.
There's very very little doubt Fauci and his crew were smack dab in the middle of this, and we're finding out more proof every day. This is what I wrote about this a couple days ago:
First, Fauci admits that there are “mutations in the virus that would be most unusual to have evolved naturally in the bats” and “there was a suspicion that this mutation was intentionally inserted.” This email is sent at the VERY START of February 2020 — and already he knows these mutations probably didn’t occur naturally. (That’s important for later.)
This theory is furthered by the next point that Fauci admits: The lab at Wuhan is doing gain-of-function research on bat viruses so they can more easily infect humans. Back in February 2020, Fauci knew exactly what gain-of-function research was and where it was being performed. It was only a year and a half later while in front of Congress that Fauci could no longer define gain-of-function research. (He just knew he never did it, honest!)
After taking this information into account, “some of the scientists” thought the lab leak was the more likely explanation, but “two others” felt that the virus could have occurred naturally — “even though these mutations have NEVER BEEN seen in a bat virus before”. (Emphasis mine)
Now, the email isn’t exactly specific about a number when it says “some of the scientists”, but it clearly says “two others”. Therefore, I think it’s reasonable to conclude that when it came to covid origins, NOT ONLY WAS THERE DISAGREEMENT IN THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY, “NATURAL ORIGIN” WAS ALWAYS THE MINORITY OPINION. Yet Fauci and the Censorship Industrial Complex swooped in and banned anybody who suggested the virus leaked from a lab. (Right up until President Biden suggested it. Then — like magic — the rules were changed.)
Fauci long claimed that “the evidence says the coronavirus could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated.” Meaning that covid couldn’t possibly have originated from the WIV. But as you point out, he played a key role in suppressing the evidence. And he lied over and over again.
Dr. David Asher was a former state department official tasked by the Trump administration to lead a probe into the origins of the coronavirus. According to Asher, “We were finding that despite the claims of our scientific community, including the National Institutes of Health and Dr. Fauci’s NIAID organization, there was almost no evidence that supported a natural, zoonotic evolution or source of COVID-19. The data disproportionately stacked up, as we investigated, that it was coming out of a lab or some supernatural source.”
The Biden administration, at the behest of Fauci, aborted Asher's probe as soon as it got the chance. Something to do with “concerns over the reliability of the findings.” What did it find? Many things. None of which conformed to Fauci’s narrative. Like, for instance, what Asher learned from biostatisticians when he inquired about the probability that covid came from nature and not from a lab. The answer he was given? Approximately 1 in 13 billion.
Similar models were used by local health agencies across the US. In my county of 70,000 people, the local health czar said unequivocally that if we did not follow strict lockdown, social distancing, and masking orders, 10% of the people in the county would die. So far we've had 214 deaths attributed to covid, total, on 16,206 confirmed cases.
You mean you weren’t “allowed” to believe your 👀 eyes? That’s what boggles my mind. I still don’t know anyone personally who was hospitalized or died of Covid or was even really sick from “it”.
And let’s not forget about the government spooks that are embedded at the big tech companies who began to ratchet up censorship on the various platforms they’ve infected. Thank God musk purchased Twitter, so that we could finally see first hand all of the despicable sh*t that we suspected was going on concerning Covid censorship. Unfortunately will probably never get a good look under the covers of Facebook, Instagram, Google, YouTube, etc.
My guess, based on a podcast interview with Eddie Holmes (of whom I'd never heard), is that Jeremy Farrar was the "Team Leader" on trashing the Lab Leak Idea. Holmes recounts how a series of conversations with Farrar changed Holmes' mind from 80% lab escape to 100% zoonotic. I forget the name of the site, but the interview was conducted in the last several months...
You know you're living in Clown World when it's racist to suggest a pandemic started with lab leak in China, but not racist to insist it started because Chinese people eat weird shit.
Hopefully the concept of “race” itself will die with it. It’s a fiction to exaggerate the significance of skin color, at one time used to bolster the institution of American slavery (with full participation of Europeans and others).
And imperialism. However, it did at one time denote a political theory (that there are races, that some are better than others, that we can and should treat them differently in our politics and business practices, etc. When I was growing up in the 1940s and '50s, practically every adult I knew believed profoundly in this theory and said so. This was in a supposedly enlightened, well-educated, northeastern state. So I suspect it is still with us, because culture takes a long time to die. And it is still embedded in our laws and regulations. Only a few days ago the Supreme Court had something to say about it. I too hope the concept will die out, but it's slow going.
So true. That political theory may have peaked when Teddy Roosevelt was president. In any case, I don’t really believe Cuvier and Buffon had any evil intention, but the concept became a huge source of revenue for many, and still is. That’s another reason it’s going to be hard to get rid of.
Personally, I think Racket and Public should get a Pulitzer for the Twitter files and your reporting on the censorship complex, this, and everything else y'all do. It's real journalism. MSM is schlock.
We vote with our dollars. MSM outlets are floundering and indie journalists have hundreds of thousands of paid subscribers. That's the prize. And I think the establishment understands what that means.
The Pulitzer will end up going to the NYT or WaPo for courageous coverage of the Trump prosecutions or coverage of the brave men who trannied up and competed against women.
Same with nonprofits. Why would any nonprofit actually *fix* poverty, or cancer, or any other major issue that society faces? They wouldn't, or they wouldn't exist.
I think drug legalization probably has as much to do with it as foreclosures. Also, haven't we learned that the more you subsidize something the more you'll get? Follow the $$$.
I don't agree. At least in WA State, the explosion in homelessness began in the 2010s. Before that, there was just a little bit, like in every city. After the bank-led crimes began, there were homeless everywhere. Weed legalization came about a decade later.
In NYC, it began with Reagan. Opening up the mental institutions and shutting down the SROs. It seemed like homelessness exploded overnight. And of course, just got worse ever since.
Homelessness in Seattle and Portland was bad in the mid-late 80s, too. I hated walking downtown in either city as a teen. It cleaned up for quite some time and then started to slowly become more prevalent in the mid-2000s. However, after the legalization of recreational weed in Oregon in 2014, the homeless problem in downtown Portland started to snowball and had completely exploded within five years. Once Oregon voters decided that the smart thing to do was to decriminalize street drug possession, we got the crisis that now exists, and along with that crisis we also developed a whole new industry of "homeless services" that now is worth billions statewide.
It continues to befuddle me that the same people who are on to the perpetual lies of government and media never question the longstanding lies of government and media about cannabis.
A lot people seem very, very determined to believe those lies.
And the medical industry will never “cure” cancer or diabetes or heart disease and on and on because then what would they do? The whole thing would collapse like the house of cards that it is. I do know that within it are people who are trying to do the right thing and truly care but honestly doctors are more about pushing pharmaceuticals and surgeries and tests than any kind of real health.
I mean at this stage, what is even true anymore? I've gotten to the point where even the goddamn weather reporting has become a twisted lie. Nothing is true anymore, everything is manipulated to serve some purpose.
Well, the pols have to jump in. Supposedly Rep. Ilhan Omar has observed that "the earth just broke the record for the hottest day in 120,000 years . . ." So of course she advocates for "national climate emergency now." I love the response of someone in another comment section: "This date 120,000 years ago you know the temperature, but no one can figure out who brought the cocaine bag into the the White House two weeks ago?" The Secret Service must not know about The Science.
On the same thread, Canada’s finance minister can find out if you donated $20 to the Convoy and yet they have no idea and no desire to find out where $30 billion went during Covid bs.
Omar is all fact free ideology all the time, climate emergency is the perfect mechanism to seize the economy and redistribute everything, something she has always wanted to do.
Maybe the 18-30 year olds, but I also know of a LOT in this age group who are totally disgusted with politics and they don't vote at all. They are checking out of society as much as they can.
I don't trust anything in the media, up to and including the box scores in the sports section.
No, they're probably not lying in the box scores. But at this point, there can be no question that there will be lies in the box scores the very moment that having lies in the box scores provides the elite with some sort of advantage.
I am a physician (recently retired) board-certified in infectious diseases with significant experience in laboratory virology and training in molecular genetics. I have been shocked by the willingness of Fauci, Collins, and their associates described in this piece to deceive the public and the scientific community at large. I was once a great admirer of Dr. Fauci and I respect his earlier work in the field of infectious diseases, but I think that he betrayed the country through his deception and misrepresentations with regard to Covid. I suspect that he did this in part to deflect attention from the fact that US research funds that he controlled were being laundered through an intermediary and funneled to a substandard lab in China that was likely the source of Covid. Thank you, Matt, and all of your colleagues for bringing us the truth. Your persistence and courage are highly commendable.
Sadly I bet it stings a bit to have to admit this. There are experts in my field I feel this way about today.
More and more I'm starting to assume all elite bureaucrats are some combination of corrupt and incompetent until I see specific evidence to the contrary.
Oh boy, here we go! The evidence is (and has been) so apparent since at least April 2020. Why just show "scary" case counts and not deaths? People shot and in car accidents die of COVID? Nobel winning antivirals called horse dewormer? Endless list of insanity and grift for Big Pharma.
That’s horrible! I witnessed the near death of my 19 year old daughter on May 10th of this year from a fentanyl pill poisoning (it was bad enough that she “thought” she took a Percocet) it’s a miracle that she lived (thanks to my husband’s CPR on her and the rescue team administering NARCAN) what bullshit to even say that “covid weakened them”!!! if you’ve never experienced something like that an overdose...WTF 🤦🏽♀️
Oh I’m not upset w you, it was that people actually blamed Covid weakening people who died from fentanyl? insane is all I’m trying to say. The lies and insanity. Or are you saying that WAS your sarcasm?! If so my bad! 🙃
So Covid gets in line with Russiagate, the January 6th Coup De Ville, the Ukraine proxy war, Nordstream, the mental competence of Joe Biden, etc., etc., and becomes one more lie in a fucking ocean of media/government lies, misdirections & cover-ups that a certain subset of the population who shall remain nameless couldn't see if we taped the list to an iron skillet and BAPPED! them upside the head with it.
In a sane society there would, at the very least, be a lot of unemployed bastards being shown the door right about now.
Instead what we'll get is obfuscation or, even worse, dead silence.
The mental competence of Joe is the least of it on him. More the issue is his corrupt entanglements with his son, and the involvement of the IRS and the DOJ.
But if they won't even take the blinders off long enough to acknowledge that the leader of the free world often can't lead himself off of a stage they are most assuredly never, ever, ever going to look at the more serious issues lurking in Joe's sock drawer.
I can remember a time when John Stewart & Stephen Colbert would have had a field day with the antics of Joe Biden. Then Trump happened, the blinders were welded into place and now they defend the fuckwit with a straight face as they make believe that what they're seeing with their eyes isn't really happening.
Yeah when my kids were young I was the greatest thing since sliced bread. And now that they're all adults suffering from TDS I'm just a big lump of moldy bread sitting in the back of a drawer getting moldier by the minute.
The Lab Leak theory would have been allowed to speak of much more if Trump hadn't labeled the virus as "coming from China," and especially when he would say, "It came from Wuhan," which slightly implied the WIV could have been the source of the outbreak.
Like all TDS sufferers, when Trump said a thing, they had to *immediately* say the exact opposite was the only "truth," reality be damned.
Trump hardly features in their discussions or reasoning, so TDS isn't the explanation. They're much more concerned about their own reputation and funding.
"..For a certain type of grant-dependent intellectual, ....." For other areas of 'settled science' please remember this phrase (grant-dependent intellectual) and retain your skepticism. '
So Covid may have been a monster we helped to create, just like Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, and Vladimir Putin. Can't wait to see the next monster we help to create.
Water is wet, the sky is blue, women have secrets. Who gives a fuck? (credit to Shane Black via Bruce Willis). This is just more mental masturbation. "Eureka! Look at this new development!"
I'm tired of our few trusted and valuable journalists like Taibbi and Greenwald simply rehashing the obvious. I don' t know what else they should do, however, because nothing will change.
Plenty of us humans who weren't sheep and were paying attention to the facts and not the fearmongering were well aware that Fauci is a piece of shit that should be tried for war crimes along with the CEOs of big pharma who poisoned and murder people in the name of avarice. There were good doctors/scientists speaking truth to power, the Barrington Declaration is one such example, countless articles out there, but Twitter is easy, reading a scientific paper is hard. Reap meet sow.
But what will change? Nothing. Cocaine in the White House, cameras don't exist, they must be the same ones watching Epstein's cell.
This government is finished. The only fix is a strong man who will rip it apart and start fresh then die so we don't live in tyranny.
It may seem obvious to us dissidents, but I am glad Taibbi et al are going through the work of digging up the evidence and putting it out there for everyone to see. The establishment would memory-hole all this if they could. Forcing people to look at it might go a long way toward averting the impending globalist Totalitarian state.
I hear you, and this good comment gets my measly upvote, but we need journos like Taibbi and Greenwald to at least formally present the truth or an approximation of the truth as an alternative to the congenital liars of organs like the NYT and WaPo. I hope some day soon these absolutely disgusting fishwrappers will go under from lack of audience. Unfortunately they're owned by gozillionaires and can continue even when subscriptions can't pay for the daily Starbucks run..
If you were awake, you knew when the people who had lied about everything Trump since 2016 started telling you that you should listen to them and be very afraid and close your business and stay away from church and wear a mask , no, wear two masks and take that shot, no, take two shots and shut up because science......and take another shot....and shut up.....
You know of course, the key component to success in propaganda is to repeat the lie, and repeat it, and repeat it. Perhaps some success can be achieved in converting wrong thinking individuals but repeating the truth, and repeating it...
Thank you for reminding us all what real journalism and speaking truth to power looks like. A shining beacon compared to our demoralized, shilling, lying corporate media. How do we help others escape the proverbial cave and see the light?
How do you help others see the light? Well.....do you expect to keep those people as friends and colleagues? My 2 cents: the wokesters will never admit to their being woke.
Why do I say that? Try telling one of these people about how Obama allowed the bankers to skate prosecution in exchange for his vast real estate holdings, post-presidency.....and watch their head's explode. I mean, how dare you ever point fingers at Saint Obama. *serious eye roll
Then, once they've cleaned up their brains from THAT, mention if they know who let the CEOs of the Insurance Industry dictate the stipulations of the ACA....itself based on the model of lobbyists/big business ushered in by Romney in MA.
No doubt. Obama was one of the very worst Presidents in my lifetime. And I've lived through Nixon, Clinton and GWB.
The closed door meeting Obama had with the Pharma giants.......
What a fucker he is.
Including every bit of the culture wars (remember the settled science) and the disastrous last 7 years. Without Obama, Hilary wouldn’t have gotten away with Russian Collusion, Comey & Brennan & Clapper wouldn’t have gone on tv for YEARS claiming Trump was a Russian asset & Hilary a victim, no Mueller & Crossfire Hurricane, no impeachments, and on & on & on. I wonder what the Trump Presidency (2 terms) would have been w/o the disastrous Obama? He is rotten to the core as are all leading Dems and some Reps too. I’m utterly disgusted.
In Obama's defense, he presciently imposed a moratorium on GoFRoC/ePPP research in 2014, which Trump in 2017 then lifted, at Fauci's instigation. The origin of covid narrative collusion coordinated by Fauci et al was driven by politics. The underlying issue however, the egregious dangers of GoFRoC/ePPP research - a tiny subset of all virology that has no civilian applications and neither preempted nor predicted the covid pandemic - should never have become a partisan issue. That too is a huge own goal by Dems that I find extremely baffling. Instead of spearheading efforts to ban GoFRoC/ePPP research, they cheerled campaigns denouncing anyone asserting the plausibility of a research-related origin of covid as loons, kooks, cranks, or conspiracy theorists.
There is NOTHING anyone can say to defend that fucker, Obama, to me. Nothing. He is a piece of shit.
Obama "may" have put a moratorium on the research - but didn't Fauci move it offshore at that point? I don't believe for one minute that someone in the corrupt Obama admin did not know about that. We fund a lot of biolabs all over the world in countries where the controls are not as stringent.
That may well be the case. Just trying to show that the origin of covid should never have become a partisan issue. Fauci served under 7 presidents and it was Cheney who drove the huge budget increase for the NIAID and its pivot towards biodefense. Fauci has championed GoFRoC/ePPP research for decades.
He has been outdone by Xiden
Honestly, I don't think he has been outdone by Biden. I think Biden is just a frontman who is there to allow Obama to continue implementing his policies. Biden without Obama would still be just a bumbling blowhard, moving through the halls of congress, scooping up foreign bribes, but with out power to do any lasting harm to the American people as a whole.
Has anyone done the forensic work to accurately determine how the Obamas came into their wealth.
Does forensic work need to be done?
I'll tell you a story: when I was doing my investigations into the forgeries the banks were committing in 2011, I spent 2 sessions in my Statehouse doing volunteer lobby work to see if we could get legislation passed to protect our homes from unlawful foreclosure. During this time, I decided to investigate the legislators' own property documents. My assumption was that if I was finding forgeries in our documents, surely I would find forgeries in their documents. Of course I found forgeries in their documents. What I also found was legislators getting surprising refinancing offers at precisely the correct time to save their own houses from foreclosure. In addition, I found other legislators buying up cheap foreclosures, when they should have been helping the same constituents' homes from the auction block.
This little dive into the political world made me understand that anyone in office has an agenda. Whether it's the Pelosi's buying stock at just the right time, or Obama saving the bankers in exchange for his amazing real estate portfolios and book/Netflix deals......they all are in the game of politics for themselves and not us.
Yes. The other folks on The Vineyard will get back to you shortly...
Appalling to hear the CDC’s Robert Redfield speak of this debacle as a good thing for the military and population to have a bioweapon with another injected bioweapon following for our “defense” against a plethora of BWs. I know plenty of people who sailed through the shots, but I doubt any are feeling protected or thankful for the holy shot.
Some experts say it was natural origin. Others are convinced it was a bank leak.
The mushroom people prefer the clammy darkness. Most I know were well aware of the science-denying positions they adopted - twas and is an essential feature of their status anxiety and that of the 'experts' who elected to promote falsehoods and deceptions. For the moment, it's their world, we just live in it.
For the moment....
You don't Yuri - you can try to instruct young people, their BS-ometers aren't completely broken, unlike the mask wearing alone in the car star bellied Sneetch Progressives I see every day here in NYC.
Real journalism, Matt. Not sure what we would be operating on now without the work you and your colleagues are doing.
It's like a breath of fresh air.
How does the public ever trust science again?
That's easy. It won't. I certainly won't. Which is a damn shame because future good advice will probably be ignored. But that's what happens when credibility is completely tarnished.
How does the public ever trust science? Well, we won't.
But the bigger question is: how does the public ever trust governments and media? Take a look at what Gov Inslee did with WA State. That goon should not only NOT be in government, he should be arrested. But thanks to people who cannot critically think, he is still Governor.
I trust science. I don't trust entities that would bastardize science to promote their agenda, and the Federal government is at the top of the list. NASA needs to get out of the climate change religion.
Whose science? And what about the entities who fund the "scientists"?
I dated a scientist in college. He most assuredly was the smartest person I have ever known. However, he ended up being the scientist who was the expert witness for PG&E testifying that hexavalent chromium was safe to drink. Obviously, Erin Brokovich won that argument and she was not a scientist. So, why would anyone believe science? It all depends on the funders.
Science is a process, and is required to be followed precisely in any/all research.
It's the people who claim to be scientists/experts who are in it for the money, not to advance society.
IMHO, the current scientific process is warped. As today, most scientists are funded by corporations, NGOs or government. And everyone has an agenda. So, whose agenda do you believe? Because I know damn well that the scientist isn't going to go against their funders, just like what was exposed here.
Sure, but if you think money is an issue only for some people, just look at the cost of submitting an article to Nature journal. You could buy yourself a new Ducati motorcycle for the cost of one article. Everyone is in the soup.
Exactly.
It is not a trust in science, but a trust in how the science is reported to the non-scientists.
Face it, science is theory based on observation. Science gets more refined as it is able to measure things to a finer degree. But that puts science and the understanding of science in different disciplines further and further apart and there is no more DaVinci's or Galileo's and their like who understand a great many fields. Scientists are becoming more and more specialized and may not be aware of what another disassociated scientist may see in his results.
Politicians use scientists to drive their political agenda. You can make any scientist look like a crackpot by just how you present their work.
We need a really good solar storm to fry out the electric world we live in so we can go back to the days where little information traveled slowly from spot to spot.
“I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you're being had.
Let's be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus.
There is no such thing as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.”
― Michael Crichton
Crichton is spot on. Science is absolutely not consensus based. The only thing that matters is the data.
...and you better watch out how that's presented.
There is a lot of data torture that happens, for sure.
My personal favorite is "settled science". Does that mean they settled for the most likely result or does it mean the matter is settled so shut the fuck up!!. I think the latter.
There is a limit to how much time and energy people can give to reevaluating apparently good results. But some people have more time and energy than others, and may want to do the work. Hence, they could question Evolution through natural selection yet again, or take another look at flat-earth theory. But most of us will not want to do that (consensus), so the science may be said to be settled -- for the moment -- because no one is stirring it up.
Well, reproducible results may create consensus for a time until new theorems are invesitgated and old principles are revised. (tho recent investigation reveals the data is often corrupt/fabricated) And vis a vis specialists: in medicine, for example, there is an endless assortment of microspecialists. And I am in favor of that approach (I'll take the neurosurgeon whose focus is brain tumors over the one whose focus is spinal cord - or the colorectal surgeon, thanks.) THAT SAID: there is something important to be said about the generalist in science and medicine. The ability to grasp big picture concepts as well as possess the analytical skills to see through - beyond, if you will - the data, is able to perceive the impact of the malady or newest development and its impact on the individual human seeking help or the world at large seeking knowledge. I love this insight of Chricton's, AND, as all things in my worldview, there's more to it than that. 🤷🏻♀️ And that's what I love about science.
Thanks for reminding me of this quote. I remember using part of it to try to get pro vax people off my back when I wasn’t vaccinating my kids years ago (well before Covid) because that was always their argument; consensus.
Could swore a bureaucrat like Fauci said that!
This ignores survivor bias. We forget the theories that turned out to be wrong even if, in their own time, they may have had the best evidence. For example, the Ptolmaic theory of celestial mechanics gave more accurate results than the Copernican; scientists were attracted to the Copernican more for its aesthetic qualities than its accuracy. When we go into any new field of investigation, we are often confronted by a chaos in which there are no clear rules of evaluation. Hence the reliance on reproducibility and consensus (which, if we are sensible, are not held to be infallible).
As for politics, it is the devil that is always around. No one should be saying, "We are above politics and self-interest", but rather "It would be good if we were above politics and self-interest, but being human, we are not, so we had better watch out for them in ourselves and in others."
Meanwhile, that favorite periodical of midwits who aspire to Higher Things, The Atlantic, channels Captain Obvious:
https://archive.li/trIFX
Was it not taught to the masses that, as soon as a metric becomes a target, that metric becomes worthless, aka "Goodhart's Law"?
Crichton is too idealistic. Thomas Kuhn showed us, awhile ago and persuasively, what actually happens in science. Science isn't a machine, so it doesn't work that way, no matter how rigorous the method(s).
You win the internet today! It is the horrid, politicized reporting that drives the "narratives". I got my first dose of this when I read the original paper about the "drowning polar bears". The actual facts were that 4 dead, floating polar bear carcasses were spotted from an airplane, and the authors suggested that they had drown while swimming, and further, that this was due to human-caused climate change. There was not one shred of evidence as to how the bears had died since the carcasses were not examined - they may have been shot by hunters for example. Based on this one very bad "scientific" paper, an entire narrative was born about polar bears drowning while swimming long distances between vanishing ice floes due to ...you know the rest. I am a retired research scientist and I am ashamed of my profession - probably not as ashamed as Matt is of his though.
I have this dark wish, too, sometimes. But what I really wish is that there was a way to fry the internet while leaving our lights (and AC and fridges, etc.) on. Sigh.
Sadly, an old high school friend declared on FaceBook that he was starting to mask again, especially since the east bay had stopped reporting covid "deaths".
I think he beleives the Science!(tm).
So just the 510? Does he take the mask off in Rdwd City? What about Rohnert Park? Livermore? Sunnyvale?
I trust tons of scientists, but ones whose work is wrapped up in politics and links to social control and authoritarian politics? Yeah, they have to prove to me that they can be trusted, mainly by just showing their damn work.
“We have on high dictated that x is the new scientific consensus.”
“Why, and who?”
“Trust us bro, also you’re a racist conspiracy theorist for even asking why.”
One of the easiest ways to tell science from Science™ is to simply look to see whether there is a remarkably unsubtle government- and media-orchestrated effort to censor opposing opinions.
There's very very little doubt Fauci and his crew were smack dab in the middle of this, and we're finding out more proof every day. This is what I wrote about this a couple days ago:
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/dissecting-the-new-fauci-e-mail
First, Fauci admits that there are “mutations in the virus that would be most unusual to have evolved naturally in the bats” and “there was a suspicion that this mutation was intentionally inserted.” This email is sent at the VERY START of February 2020 — and already he knows these mutations probably didn’t occur naturally. (That’s important for later.)
This theory is furthered by the next point that Fauci admits: The lab at Wuhan is doing gain-of-function research on bat viruses so they can more easily infect humans. Back in February 2020, Fauci knew exactly what gain-of-function research was and where it was being performed. It was only a year and a half later while in front of Congress that Fauci could no longer define gain-of-function research. (He just knew he never did it, honest!)
After taking this information into account, “some of the scientists” thought the lab leak was the more likely explanation, but “two others” felt that the virus could have occurred naturally — “even though these mutations have NEVER BEEN seen in a bat virus before”. (Emphasis mine)
Now, the email isn’t exactly specific about a number when it says “some of the scientists”, but it clearly says “two others”. Therefore, I think it’s reasonable to conclude that when it came to covid origins, NOT ONLY WAS THERE DISAGREEMENT IN THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY, “NATURAL ORIGIN” WAS ALWAYS THE MINORITY OPINION. Yet Fauci and the Censorship Industrial Complex swooped in and banned anybody who suggested the virus leaked from a lab. (Right up until President Biden suggested it. Then — like magic — the rules were changed.)
Fauci long claimed that “the evidence says the coronavirus could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated.” Meaning that covid couldn’t possibly have originated from the WIV. But as you point out, he played a key role in suppressing the evidence. And he lied over and over again.
https://euphoricrecall.substack.com/p/newly-released-emails-show-fauci
Dr. David Asher was a former state department official tasked by the Trump administration to lead a probe into the origins of the coronavirus. According to Asher, “We were finding that despite the claims of our scientific community, including the National Institutes of Health and Dr. Fauci’s NIAID organization, there was almost no evidence that supported a natural, zoonotic evolution or source of COVID-19. The data disproportionately stacked up, as we investigated, that it was coming out of a lab or some supernatural source.”
The Biden administration, at the behest of Fauci, aborted Asher's probe as soon as it got the chance. Something to do with “concerns over the reliability of the findings.” What did it find? Many things. None of which conformed to Fauci’s narrative. Like, for instance, what Asher learned from biostatisticians when he inquired about the probability that covid came from nature and not from a lab. The answer he was given? Approximately 1 in 13 billion.
Sounds like how the world wasn't too interested in getting to the bottom of Nordstream because they knew what they would find.
Because at the bottom of the Nord-Stream saga you’ll find a steaming pile of American Bullshit.
And cocaine in the WH
While I agree SARS-CoV2 came from a lab, I have worked with a lot of biostatisticians, and their numbers are "Soft".
The most influential mathematical modeler of disease in the UK is Neil Ferguson. His record is spectacular; he's always wrong: nationalreview.com/corner/professor-lockdown-modeler-resigns-in-disgrace/
Similar models were used by local health agencies across the US. In my county of 70,000 people, the local health czar said unequivocally that if we did not follow strict lockdown, social distancing, and masking orders, 10% of the people in the county would die. So far we've had 214 deaths attributed to covid, total, on 16,206 confirmed cases.
You mean you weren’t “allowed” to believe your 👀 eyes? That’s what boggles my mind. I still don’t know anyone personally who was hospitalized or died of Covid or was even really sick from “it”.
And let’s not forget about the government spooks that are embedded at the big tech companies who began to ratchet up censorship on the various platforms they’ve infected. Thank God musk purchased Twitter, so that we could finally see first hand all of the despicable sh*t that we suspected was going on concerning Covid censorship. Unfortunately will probably never get a good look under the covers of Facebook, Instagram, Google, YouTube, etc.
"Unfortunately will probably never get a good look under the covers of Facebook, Instagram, Google, YouTube, etc."
But make no mistake, those places all have "Files" too, just like CBS and ABC and NBC.
MUSK👏🙌👊
How far are we from Lysenkoism? Not far, it seems.
About 3 1/2 years and counting.........
My guess, based on a podcast interview with Eddie Holmes (of whom I'd never heard), is that Jeremy Farrar was the "Team Leader" on trashing the Lab Leak Idea. Holmes recounts how a series of conversations with Farrar changed Holmes' mind from 80% lab escape to 100% zoonotic. I forget the name of the site, but the interview was conducted in the last several months...
You know you're living in Clown World when it's racist to suggest a pandemic started with lab leak in China, but not racist to insist it started because Chinese people eat weird shit.
The word “racist” is functionally dead.
So true. Literally EVERYTHING is racist now.
https://euphoricrecall.substack.com/p/ackshually-thats-racist
Hopefully the concept of “race” itself will die with it. It’s a fiction to exaggerate the significance of skin color, at one time used to bolster the institution of American slavery (with full participation of Europeans and others).
And imperialism. However, it did at one time denote a political theory (that there are races, that some are better than others, that we can and should treat them differently in our politics and business practices, etc. When I was growing up in the 1940s and '50s, practically every adult I knew believed profoundly in this theory and said so. This was in a supposedly enlightened, well-educated, northeastern state. So I suspect it is still with us, because culture takes a long time to die. And it is still embedded in our laws and regulations. Only a few days ago the Supreme Court had something to say about it. I too hope the concept will die out, but it's slow going.
So true. That political theory may have peaked when Teddy Roosevelt was president. In any case, I don’t really believe Cuvier and Buffon had any evil intention, but the concept became a huge source of revenue for many, and still is. That’s another reason it’s going to be hard to get rid of.
Yes, especially when there were NIH-funded American scientists working at the Wuhan lab.
Personally, I think Racket and Public should get a Pulitzer for the Twitter files and your reporting on the censorship complex, this, and everything else y'all do. It's real journalism. MSM is schlock.
The Pulitzer is for corporate shills. We need a populist prize to award journalists who tell the people the truth over and against govt lies.
We vote with our dollars. MSM outlets are floundering and indie journalists have hundreds of thousands of paid subscribers. That's the prize. And I think the establishment understands what that means.
How about a "Taibbi"?
I know. But frack the corporate shills.
Their prize is their honor, repute, and self-respect.
An excellent point and it always bears repeating. It shall be your most valuable possession during your life.
Pulitzer has gone the way of the Nobel.
And we’re supposed to not notice.
The Pulitzer will end up going to the NYT or WaPo for courageous coverage of the Trump prosecutions or coverage of the brave men who trannied up and competed against women.
Yea....
Well that's BS, isn't it?
Who the fuck wants a disgusting Pulitzer?
If only the Pulitzers weren't also completely corrupted
Ahh. If only!
If only people used their power of discernment, their intelligence, rather than their emotional triggers. What a wonderful world that would be. :-) 😄
If you look at some of the people who have received Pulitzer prizes in recent years, you can see hot meaningless it is. It's a joke.
The Nobel awards used to be fair. No longer. In the days when Sy Hersh got his Pulitzer were days of good journalism. It's all gone to hell.
It would be interesting to see if the Pulitzer Board would even consider material originally published on Twitter to be eligible under their guidelines. https://www.pulitzer.org/page/2023-journalism-submission-guidelines-requirements-and-faqs
It seems both Racket and Public could be consider news organizations at this point. We could do a mass nomination using this forum as a starting point
My view of the scientists behind man made climate change is that they are of the same ilk as these folks.
They write their reports to reinforce the position of those that they rely on for funding. Like the Meme says:
97% of scientists agree with their sponsors.
Same with nonprofits. Why would any nonprofit actually *fix* poverty, or cancer, or any other major issue that society faces? They wouldn't, or they wouldn't exist.
The west coast knows all about this with the billions spent on homelessness that never improve the situation.
And how the CA Lottery was going to supplement the Public School System!
Now they've moved the money around and the CA school system is DEPENDANT on lotto money! What could go wrong?!?!??!?!
Has anyone ever connected the explosive homelessness issue with the banks being allowed to foreclose on 18 million homes unlawfully?
Hmmmm, let's see, when did homelessness begin it's explosive numbers? I do think that happened right around the 2010s.......isn't that odd?
I think drug legalization probably has as much to do with it as foreclosures. Also, haven't we learned that the more you subsidize something the more you'll get? Follow the $$$.
I don't agree. At least in WA State, the explosion in homelessness began in the 2010s. Before that, there was just a little bit, like in every city. After the bank-led crimes began, there were homeless everywhere. Weed legalization came about a decade later.
In NYC, it began with Reagan. Opening up the mental institutions and shutting down the SROs. It seemed like homelessness exploded overnight. And of course, just got worse ever since.
Homelessness in Seattle and Portland was bad in the mid-late 80s, too. I hated walking downtown in either city as a teen. It cleaned up for quite some time and then started to slowly become more prevalent in the mid-2000s. However, after the legalization of recreational weed in Oregon in 2014, the homeless problem in downtown Portland started to snowball and had completely exploded within five years. Once Oregon voters decided that the smart thing to do was to decriminalize street drug possession, we got the crisis that now exists, and along with that crisis we also developed a whole new industry of "homeless services" that now is worth billions statewide.
It continues to befuddle me that the same people who are on to the perpetual lies of government and media never question the longstanding lies of government and media about cannabis.
A lot people seem very, very determined to believe those lies.
Why is that?
I started to see homeless people in public buildings in New York City around 1980 or '81. It was quite a shock to my naive little mind.
But SimCon, bilion$ spent means somebody got a whole lotta dough... another interesting topic to investigate...
Sad but true. Poverty is not addressed. Part of the agenda of control and crazed superiority.
And the medical industry will never “cure” cancer or diabetes or heart disease and on and on because then what would they do? The whole thing would collapse like the house of cards that it is. I do know that within it are people who are trying to do the right thing and truly care but honestly doctors are more about pushing pharmaceuticals and surgeries and tests than any kind of real health.
The Shirky Principle: “Institutions will try to preserve the problems to which they are the solution.”
💥 a new one to me…even though I’m probably old enough that I should have heard of it! 🙏🏽
I mean at this stage, what is even true anymore? I've gotten to the point where even the goddamn weather reporting has become a twisted lie. Nothing is true anymore, everything is manipulated to serve some purpose.
You mean like "the three hottest days in history", last week, all BS based on a computer glitch of some readings from the antarctic ocean?
You hear any major media correcting that?
Of course not, they are still repeating the lie.
Because narrative.
Well, the pols have to jump in. Supposedly Rep. Ilhan Omar has observed that "the earth just broke the record for the hottest day in 120,000 years . . ." So of course she advocates for "national climate emergency now." I love the response of someone in another comment section: "This date 120,000 years ago you know the temperature, but no one can figure out who brought the cocaine bag into the the White House two weeks ago?" The Secret Service must not know about The Science.
Selective knowledge is an amazing thing.
On the same thread, Canada’s finance minister can find out if you donated $20 to the Convoy and yet they have no idea and no desire to find out where $30 billion went during Covid bs.
Omar is all fact free ideology all the time, climate emergency is the perfect mechanism to seize the economy and redistribute everything, something she has always wanted to do.
Who votes for these Red Guards, Kmer Rouge?
"Who votes for these Red Guards, Kmer Rouge?"
Yes . . . 18-30-year-olds.
Maybe the 18-30 year olds, but I also know of a LOT in this age group who are totally disgusted with politics and they don't vote at all. They are checking out of society as much as they can.
And these are the same experts who used to scold us for confusing climate with weather.
If there’s anyone less reliable than Nicolle Wallace it’s the weatherman.
I don't trust anything in the media, up to and including the box scores in the sports section.
No, they're probably not lying in the box scores. But at this point, there can be no question that there will be lies in the box scores the very moment that having lies in the box scores provides the elite with some sort of advantage.
This is how trust works.
I am a physician (recently retired) board-certified in infectious diseases with significant experience in laboratory virology and training in molecular genetics. I have been shocked by the willingness of Fauci, Collins, and their associates described in this piece to deceive the public and the scientific community at large. I was once a great admirer of Dr. Fauci and I respect his earlier work in the field of infectious diseases, but I think that he betrayed the country through his deception and misrepresentations with regard to Covid. I suspect that he did this in part to deflect attention from the fact that US research funds that he controlled were being laundered through an intermediary and funneled to a substandard lab in China that was likely the source of Covid. Thank you, Matt, and all of your colleagues for bringing us the truth. Your persistence and courage are highly commendable.
"I was once a great admirer of Dr. Fauci..."
Sadly I bet it stings a bit to have to admit this. There are experts in my field I feel this way about today.
More and more I'm starting to assume all elite bureaucrats are some combination of corrupt and incompetent until I see specific evidence to the contrary.
I used to admire Andy Rambaut...
Oh boy, here we go! The evidence is (and has been) so apparent since at least April 2020. Why just show "scary" case counts and not deaths? People shot and in car accidents die of COVID? Nobel winning antivirals called horse dewormer? Endless list of insanity and grift for Big Pharma.
Personally, my favorite was the fairly long list of drug overdoses in Chicago also credited to covid.
"If covid hadn't weakened them they would have survived the fentanyl overdose big enough to kill 10 horses."
Honest
That’s horrible! I witnessed the near death of my 19 year old daughter on May 10th of this year from a fentanyl pill poisoning (it was bad enough that she “thought” she took a Percocet) it’s a miracle that she lived (thanks to my husband’s CPR on her and the rescue team administering NARCAN) what bullshit to even say that “covid weakened them”!!! if you’ve never experienced something like that an overdose...WTF 🤦🏽♀️
Ok
Step back
Take a deep breath.
If you cannot detect sarcasm then you need to not be on the internet.
Sorry for what happened to your daughter, but that has absolutely nothing to do with my comment.
Oh I’m not upset w you, it was that people actually blamed Covid weakening people who died from fentanyl? insane is all I’m trying to say. The lies and insanity. Or are you saying that WAS your sarcasm?! If so my bad! 🙃
I mean you CAN believe anything these days!
So Covid gets in line with Russiagate, the January 6th Coup De Ville, the Ukraine proxy war, Nordstream, the mental competence of Joe Biden, etc., etc., and becomes one more lie in a fucking ocean of media/government lies, misdirections & cover-ups that a certain subset of the population who shall remain nameless couldn't see if we taped the list to an iron skillet and BAPPED! them upside the head with it.
In a sane society there would, at the very least, be a lot of unemployed bastards being shown the door right about now.
Instead what we'll get is obfuscation or, even worse, dead silence.
"...the mental competence of Joe Biden..."
The mental competence of Joe is the least of it on him. More the issue is his corrupt entanglements with his son, and the involvement of the IRS and the DOJ.
Oh I agree.
But if they won't even take the blinders off long enough to acknowledge that the leader of the free world often can't lead himself off of a stage they are most assuredly never, ever, ever going to look at the more serious issues lurking in Joe's sock drawer.
I can remember a time when John Stewart & Stephen Colbert would have had a field day with the antics of Joe Biden. Then Trump happened, the blinders were welded into place and now they defend the fuckwit with a straight face as they make believe that what they're seeing with their eyes isn't really happening.
I'll have to take your word for the late night TV. They lost me a long time ago.
You didn't lose a thing
It’s Clinton’s sock drawer (precedent).
I thought it was Clinton's party dress.
Or was that Clinton's sock drawer & Lewinsky's party dress?
Anyway you say it Clinton spread himself around like mayonnaise.
Sorry. That's just wrong.
Biden was deeply corrupt long before his brain started turning to mush with dementia.
True but the dementia made it funny.
I will add his Covid shot mandates.
Great comment. I like the pan against the head -giving me a chuckle. Too bad I would have to use it on my adult children. But then i’d be arrested!
Yeah when my kids were young I was the greatest thing since sliced bread. And now that they're all adults suffering from TDS I'm just a big lump of moldy bread sitting in the back of a drawer getting moldier by the minute.
"The January 6th Coup De Ville,"
Good one!
The Lab Leak theory would have been allowed to speak of much more if Trump hadn't labeled the virus as "coming from China," and especially when he would say, "It came from Wuhan," which slightly implied the WIV could have been the source of the outbreak.
Like all TDS sufferers, when Trump said a thing, they had to *immediately* say the exact opposite was the only "truth," reality be damned.
^^^THIS^^^
Absolutely true, AHNC, the vaccine is the perfect example. Biden and his henchmen hated it under Trump before they loved under a new administration.
Trump hardly features in their discussions or reasoning, so TDS isn't the explanation. They're much more concerned about their own reputation and funding.
I think you’re right about the scientists, but the MSM did exactly what AHNC Hat said - instead of doing their job...
I agree with Cynthia wholeheartedly - I should have been more specific in my comment and point to the Corporate Media directly.
Thank, Cynthia!
"..For a certain type of grant-dependent intellectual, ....." For other areas of 'settled science' please remember this phrase (grant-dependent intellectual) and retain your skepticism. '
dingdingding
So Covid may have been a monster we helped to create, just like Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, and Vladimir Putin. Can't wait to see the next monster we help to create.
Bill Hates is working on it...(I accidentally typed the “H” and was going to change it to a “G” but it suits him, so there you have it)
He's too busy buying up farmland so he can become a 21st century feudal lord.
Like a multiple-choice test, you're usually right with the first attempt...
All of this was necessary to defeat Trump. It's that simple.
All efforts of the Administrative/ Globalist State since 2016 have to to deter, cancel, impede, remove one Donald J Trump. Every. Single.Action.
It's not Trump exactly.
It is the fear of someone they can't control. And what they fear most is exposure.
For sure VideoSavant. Look no further than their current antiChrist: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
Water is wet, the sky is blue, women have secrets. Who gives a fuck? (credit to Shane Black via Bruce Willis). This is just more mental masturbation. "Eureka! Look at this new development!"
I'm tired of our few trusted and valuable journalists like Taibbi and Greenwald simply rehashing the obvious. I don' t know what else they should do, however, because nothing will change.
Plenty of us humans who weren't sheep and were paying attention to the facts and not the fearmongering were well aware that Fauci is a piece of shit that should be tried for war crimes along with the CEOs of big pharma who poisoned and murder people in the name of avarice. There were good doctors/scientists speaking truth to power, the Barrington Declaration is one such example, countless articles out there, but Twitter is easy, reading a scientific paper is hard. Reap meet sow.
But what will change? Nothing. Cocaine in the White House, cameras don't exist, they must be the same ones watching Epstein's cell.
This government is finished. The only fix is a strong man who will rip it apart and start fresh then die so we don't live in tyranny.
It may seem obvious to us dissidents, but I am glad Taibbi et al are going through the work of digging up the evidence and putting it out there for everyone to see. The establishment would memory-hole all this if they could. Forcing people to look at it might go a long way toward averting the impending globalist Totalitarian state.
I hear you, and this good comment gets my measly upvote, but we need journos like Taibbi and Greenwald to at least formally present the truth or an approximation of the truth as an alternative to the congenital liars of organs like the NYT and WaPo. I hope some day soon these absolutely disgusting fishwrappers will go under from lack of audience. Unfortunately they're owned by gozillionaires and can continue even when subscriptions can't pay for the daily Starbucks run..
Great minds think alike.
If you were awake, you knew when the people who had lied about everything Trump since 2016 started telling you that you should listen to them and be very afraid and close your business and stay away from church and wear a mask , no, wear two masks and take that shot, no, take two shots and shut up because science......and take another shot....and shut up.....
You know of course, the key component to success in propaganda is to repeat the lie, and repeat it, and repeat it. Perhaps some success can be achieved in converting wrong thinking individuals but repeating the truth, and repeating it...