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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Hope these ghouls are held accountable. Thanks for setting an example on what journalism should be. Enjoy your vacation, well earned.

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flyoverdriver's avatar

Not just accountable in a court of law—I hope their reputations are forever stained in public opinion. May they be held in as much contempt as their behavior indicates they felt for American voters, whose will they repeatedly tried to thwart and usurp.

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Dr. K's avatar

Since it will never be reported except by (sadly) fringe reporters like Matt, 95% of the American idiocracy will never have heard of it and will continue to believe in Russiagate considering people like PencilNeck are still spouting it off as true.

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TeamOfRivals's avatar

I think you are underestimating the power of the written word and the alternate media. The pressure behind this dam is building and the efficacy of the MSM to obfuscate is crumbling. Just because you can't see the cracks doesn't mean they aren't there under the waterline.

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Dr. K's avatar

I can only hope you are right. But I have been thinking that for a while now and the idiocy continues. Hope springs eternal, though.

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Anne Rudig's avatar

What percentage is the 95% of the idiocy is the rest of us? I'm seeing MSM and entertainment fail and transform in real time. Not sure they have the country captured anymore. We all know how to watch youtube on our phones. Different world.

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Jim M's avatar

I'm pretty sure that establishment media was delivered a mortal blow on Election Day.

BUT

That doesn't mean they can't do tremendous, if not fatal damage to society as they go through death throes. I've seen a lot of movies where the bad guy is dying, but delivers a fatal blow to either the hero or a major character in his last moments.

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Matt L.'s avatar
4hEdited

The 2001 Patriot Act, expanded the FISA court from 7 to 11 justices. It further stipulated that 3 of the judges must live within 23 miles of Washington DC. All justices were nominated by Chief Justice Roberts and confirmed by Senate. George W Bush and a slim majority R Senate (Cheney as VP gave R’s 51) “packed the court”, and paved way for the recent abuses. The FISA court was created in 1975, an outcome of last colonoscopy of the Intel community (Church Committee). That FISA court now needs dismantling. This is a relic of the deep state, and this secretive foundation needs to be demolished.

Of the current 11 FISA judges, Presidents who approved them:

Bill Clinton: 1

George W Bush: 6

Barack Obama: 2

Trump: 2

The 4th Amendment to our Constitution states that US citizens are to be protected from unreasonable searches and seizures by the government:

“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects against unreasonable searches shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized”

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Frank A's avatar

"The pressure behind this dam is building and the efficacy of the MSM to obfuscate is crumbling."

Agreed, especially when indictments (hopefully) start flowing.

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Vet nor's avatar

Help spread the word. Share on social media, restock.

Evil wins when good men [people] do nothing

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Bruce Miller's avatar

In a sane nation, they'd all fear even showing their faces in public. Clapper, Comey, Brennan, Garland, McCabe, the whole steaming pile of merde, and the professional liars who carried their water for years.

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GMT1969's avatar

Make them testify. Force them to admit to what they did under oath. It will be obvious to the C-Span viewers. At some point, the legacy media will no longer be able to ignore the scandal…much the way they could not ignore Biden’s incapacity after the debate last year.

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Victoria Bell's avatar

They'll all plead the 5th. Schiff's and a few others' pardons might come back and bite them on the ass when asked to testify before Congress. I can't wait for the grilling Kennedy will give him.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Reputations are meaningless in this arena because we know they all lie, and they all know we know they lie. There are many in D.C. and the major MSM outlets who will protect them by ignoring these stains, they treat these stains as a badge of courage for the cause. The only solution is indictment and loss of wealth and power.

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TeamOfRivals's avatar

I'm hoping for more lawsuits against individual resistant reporters and networks. Sometimes money talks; sometimes it slams their mouths shut!

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BeadleBlog's avatar

I hope they do hard time.

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JD Free's avatar

America was founded by people who understood what happens when government is exceeds its proper role. Now we have a bunch of people who think that the misbehavior of a vastly-expanded government is a scandal.

No. The vast expansion of government is the scandal.

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flyoverdriver's avatar

In only a state (or multinational “over-state” as Walter described it earlier this year on ATW) with multilayered Byzantine bureaucracies insulating it so tightly from citizens could such abuses of power be undertaken with such casualness and impunity.

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ResistWeMuch's avatar

yes if you allow big government and all its promises it inevitably gets to this point.

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Mike R.'s avatar

Accountability YB absolutely!! --But who will actually "bell the cat" and will it make a difference in the lives of ordinary Americans? While our national conversation is held hostage to yet another managed spectacle the D.C./Wall Street grift--(as in yesterdays RACKET/Salzman report on the further loosening of the PE wolves on American pension funds)--will continue to gouge Americans for their hard earned cash--and the quality of American life and education will continue to plummet--with no consequence for the perps. The DNC/EU Brussels/CCP Davos club and the totalitarian managerial/surveillance machine it is using to dismantle Western culture and civilization is terminal cancer. RACKET is right in calling for persecution of the perps but outright publicly boiling the spooks in oil wouldn't change a thing.

The Clinton's came to political power on the make. Billy the philanderer is a Rhodes Scholar. Can We the People believe he didn't know gutting Glass-Steagall and the American industrial base wouldn't hurl our Republic into chaos? Does anyone in American politics have a greater willingness to openly lie and manipulate for a buck then half million dollar a speech payoff--"we came-we saw-he died" Hillary C.?

The Clinton's ? Pick a card--any political card --name the damage and the lie.

Whatever is left--(pardon my long winded self Sir)--of the American Republic resides in We the People and the only lines of moral demarcation I see anywhere resides in those drawn by our founding fathers in our Constitution.

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BookWench's avatar

"The Big Guy" Biden runs a close second.

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TeamOfRivals's avatar

AND in we the people. I have to admit to being really shook during the first two to three years of Biden. So many things were being done that were obviously against our Constitution! Putting people out of their jobs for not having a shot? What!? Shutting down businesses during 2020 that were never to reopen? Cancelling a debtor's debt and sticking the taxpayer with the bill? AG Garland? (Need I say more?) Mayorkas: the border is secure? Clear discrimination against individuals or groups for their religion or politics? Throwing J6 people into a dungeon, uncharged and without bail for years!?

Yes, I was shaking and my head was spinning! But then Butler, PA happened. (Call me a conspiracist but somebody wanted Trump's brains splattered all over national TV! No wonder God stepped in!) And I think the nation took stock and regrouped. I know I did. Trump's strong, brave response gave us all some new spine, and suddenly the hope, the faint glimmer of faith in the system we were holding onto for almost 4 years was stiffened and made secure, trustworthy. The people stood up, stood tall and voted like they had been waiting to vote for so long. You've got to give Americans great credit for that, because although we can be big cynics between elections, we did our duty as we had been taught since our earliest days in school. The textbook theories of citizenship came to pass in real life for most of us. Being an American truly IS in our DNA! We cannot help but be what we are - America the beautiful, Land of the free, home of the brave.

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Random Shmo's avatar

"Can We the People believe he didn't know gutting Glass-Steagall and the American industrial base wouldn't hurl our Republic into chaos?"

I think you might underestimate the arrogance and delusion of the Clintons, and for that matter the upper-middle class more generally.

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David Webb's avatar

Trump Derangement Syndrome has taken such a firm grip on the version of reality held by all of my dem/liberal friends that the only state sponsored 'mischief' they care about is that which applies to Trump. And that's the only kind mischief that the legacy media feeds them and which they chose to internalize. These are the educated ones, who perceive themselves as 'critical thinkers', more virtuous and less susceptible to 'conspiracy theories' than the rabble 'naturally' tends to gravitate toward. Matt is admirably fighting an uphill battle which may and should lead to accountability of some sort, but from my vantage point... uphill indeed it is.

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Victoria Bell's avatar

!00%. Many in my family are Democrats, and they're still not buying that Biden has diminished capacity. If that fact wasn't blindingly clear, there isn't much that will change their minds.

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Wm. S. Loder's avatar

People can be influenced to believe anything. It’s Cult mentality. All objectivity and logic gets lost. Hatred for the other side or its leader dictates attitudes. Sad but like lemmings they will follow off a cliff.

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Dazed and Confused's avatar

Bring back tar and feathers for this crew.

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Frank A's avatar

Here, here!!!

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K Andrew Serum's avatar

They won't be, but nothing can stop them from being convicted in the court of public opinion at this point. Everybody knows, and the truth is verifiable. These clowns are dancing around naked and nobody will trust them ever again.

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Coolidge’s Ghost's avatar

Hear, hear!

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michael888's avatar

Many of the same people behind the Weapons of Mass Destruction which justified the Iraq War were main actors in Russiagate. They were promoted. The Neocons who had worked for Bush/Cheney (such as Toria Nuland) jumped ship and moved their projects to Obama. It was about Power and Control even more than politics.

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Ellis Brazeal's avatar

Matt: So thankful to you for the hard work, sanity, and truth which you bring to so many important stories! Where would we be without reporters like you, Walter, Bari, and Shellenberger?!!!

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Quadriped's avatar

Bari is certainly not worthy of inclusion in that pantheon. She is an Israeli stooge.

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Sherry's avatar

Oh baloney. I'm pro-Israeli and pro-Zionism. Does that mean I'm an Israel stooge? I presume so in your oh-so-acute estimation.

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MH's avatar

Seriously, why do people insist on injecting their opinions on who they perceive as Israeli sympathizers when it literally has nothing to do w this article. So childish.

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Mountain Goat's avatar

It has to do with the comment they replied to, the one praising bari

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steven t koenig's avatar

I agree with Bari on Israel. But not much more

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Matt L.'s avatar

Bari and The Free Press are MSM 2.0. Evidence is they will not report (so far) on the Russia gate story unfolding since Trump took office. Bari also once called Tulsi Gabbard an ‘Assad toadie’.

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RandallS's avatar

Would you put Rachael Maddow on that list. Both are crap propagandists, not reporters or analysts.

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Sera's avatar

No, I don’t necessarily see evidence of stoogery. But it means that you’re comfortable with genocide and ethnic cleansing. And, by association, a criminal.

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TeamOfRivals's avatar

YOU are the stooge for the ignorant haters who can't even comprehend a dictionary. But that is too kind because you ARE an ignorant hater. Since when do those committing genocide provide food to those they are annihilating? I'm sorry that people listen to the likes of you. YOU are the ones who would commit genocide if given half a chance. You are covering over your plain hatred of Jewish people with this lie. The Jews are NOT the cause of all evil in the world, you hateful moron.

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Lawyers Guns & Money's avatar

You're doing an awful lot of projecting.

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TeamOfRivals's avatar

No, I am not.

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MG's avatar

I assume you're concerned with the ethnic cleansing happening now in Nagorno-Karabakh? Or Ethiopia? Or the Sudan?

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BookWench's avatar

Are we paying for that?

Are their lobbyists stalking our Congress Critters?

Are their propagandists infesting the Inter Webs, arguing on their behalf?

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Lawyers Guns & Money's avatar

The best way to deal with a fastball straight down the pipe is to knock that thing over the fence. Well done.

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Jim M's avatar

IDK if you're aware, but there's a strategy in Israel right now to end all incoming funding from the USA. Damn, I wish I could recall where I read it; but it was from a reputable source and makes sense.

Yeah, they have lobbyists pushing for Israel; and 'da Joos' are deeply entwined in American media.

I like & respect you, and you know it. I'd love to present my take on Israel etc etc in an exchange w/ you. If you want to do it via DM, or right here, I'm game. (If we do it here, there'll be a lotta chirping from assholes in the mix, but maybe that's OK?)

Your call, BW.

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steven t koenig's avatar

I regularly kill cockroaches and rats. There's no difference here

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BookWench's avatar

That's the same dehumanization the Nazis practiced against Jews.

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steven t koenig's avatar

Maybe. The difference being the behavior of the two groups. Pre-WWII Jews weren't attacking or threatening anybody. Todays crop of cockroaches are shitting in everybody's food supply, including their own

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Sherry's avatar

What a loathsome, despicable comment.

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steven t koenig's avatar

Well, Hamas and their supporters are loathsome, despicable people, so thanks!

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Lawyers Guns & Money's avatar

I wouldn't immediately assume that you are, but you did bring it up.

Are you more concerned with Israel's wellbeing than America's? Bari is.

Do you believe it should be illegal in the USA to criticize Israel?

Are you a fan of the ethnic cleansing that has been going on in Gaza? How about Bibi's plan to install some kind of Vichy government?

If yes to any of those, then yes, you would qualify as an Israeli stooge.

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MG's avatar

It's not illegal in US to criticize Israel - you're doing it right now for pity's sake.

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Lawyers Guns & Money's avatar

I'm a citizen. They're trying to deport a guy who's here legally because he's criticizing not the US, but a different country. And there are a lot of new dipshit laws outlawing "antisemitism," which is code for criticizing of Israel. Even in Texas. (In Texas's defense, they have all kinds of dipshit laws on all kinds of issues.) I lived in Texas for over 20 years. It is virtually impossible to even find a Jewish person in the state.

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Daily Growler's avatar

Bari is a neocon, and she also belittled people who questioned the efficacy and safety of the mandated shots.

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MG's avatar

She called Tulsi Gabbard a toady (when she didn't even know what it meant).

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Running Burning Man's avatar

You need to elaborate on the slur. She called Gabbard a toady for Assad. It was pathetic when stated, but really stupid as she was disclosed as ignorant on the meaning of the word.

I've written it for years, and others are now picking on on this truth: You can take Bari out of the NYT, but not the NYT out of Bari.

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Brian Katz's avatar

You can criticize Bari for not covering this story without attacking her heritage.

I’ve recently unsubscribed at The Free Press because of her failure to cover this story.

And I am pro Israel.

But, Bari is a biased reporter.

Full stop.

NYT lite.

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Coolidge’s Ghost's avatar

Yep, I cancelled them as well and it had zero to do with her heritage. They simply have fallen victim to class pressure. Bari simply can’t stand being blackballed by her kind any longer.

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Timothy G McKenna's avatar

Such a shame - I was an early fan and supporter until last year or so.

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Matt L.'s avatar

Well said, Brian!

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ShirtlessCaptainKirk's avatar

Moe, Bari and Curly were my favorite Israeli Stooges. Never really warmed-up to Curly-Joe.

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Jim M's avatar

Then this Bronx-Irish-Catholic's a stooge too.

Sigh...

I see Israel as the canary in the coal mine for a Marxist push of domination.

I didn't know just how evil at its core Islam is w/o TFP b/c nobody else out there has the courage to point it out as regularly and as repeatedly as Bari & Co.

Islam is NOT a religion; it's a political organization. And had Bari not been there on Rogan years ago (yeah, the ep where she called Tulsi a toady of Asaad she has yet to apologize for) I never would have become aware of Israel's challenges. And that was years and years b4 10/7.

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reality speaks's avatar

Amen to that thought

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Landscape Artist's avatar

Disagree. If you don’t like TFP keeping the continuous world antisemitism at the forefront, then you are mislead.

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Dave Slough's avatar

Bari is a stooge cause she’s still a New Yotk Times employee (you can kick Bari outta New York Times but you can’t take the NYT outta Bari)

She packages herself as just left of center but she’s way too radical for that placement

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Lawyers Guns & Money's avatar

You got that right.

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Al Walker's avatar

Another major story going unreported by The Free Press. Sad. Irresponsible.

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Ellis Brazeal's avatar

Enjoy your time with your family!

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Nathan Woodard's avatar

I join you in Thanking Matt for his Pulitzer-worthy reporting! Meanwhile I would not have thought that this comment would trigger the biggest shitstorm in the whole thread. I walked through the Substack door and found myself on X. Hmm.......still wearing my pajamas and Walter Cronkite is trying to climb in through my third floor window ......hopefully I'll wake up soon from this super weird dream.

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Ellis Brazeal's avatar

Thanks Nathan! Right there with you.

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Brian Katz's avatar

Bari has dropped the ball on this story.

She did not report on it back in time as Matt did.

So these revelations don’t ring true with her as they do with Matt, because he has been investigating this story all along.

Bari is NYT lite.

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Matt L.'s avatar

Bari is also in negotiations to sell The Free Press to CBS parent, Skydance. And it seems much of the MSM has mutually agreed not to report this story. That MSM now includes TFP.

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Heyjude's avatar

It’s not just this story. Bari dipped her toes in on the Twitter files, then quickly skedaddled back to the safety of the beach. She showed pretty quickly she didn’t want much to do with real journalism.

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Mountain Goat's avatar

Bari is quite compromised

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Big Noise's avatar

Well, TFP isn't giving much attention to the issues Matt is focused on, and those issues are extremely important.

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Ellis Brazeal's avatar

Good point. That’s why it’s helpful to have multiple News resources.

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Brian Katz's avatar

🎯🎯🎯

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Julie Spike's avatar

Matt, Shellenberger and Bari are the only Substack journalists for which I have paid subscriptions. Their recent reporting has given me reason to believe I made good choices. I was motivated by their participation in the Twitter files exposure.

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Victoria Bell's avatar

amuseonx is another substack well worth reading (I have no affiliation). He's a practicing attorney and has a lot of insight into this Russiagate mess.

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Julie Spike's avatar

I have seen that account but haven't determined its reliability. Will check out the posts. Just checked, already following.

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6hEdited

Certainly agree about Matt, Walter, and Shellenberger, and it was once true about Bari, but no more. She sacrificed honest reporting for her big ambitions. TFP is looking at a sale in the $200M + range. I was a subscriber until about November of last year. She wrote something before the election about TFP having some holiday party where they polled their employees and the results (she claimed) were equally split: 1/3 Trump, 1/3 Harris, and 1/3 Undecided. That story's message was crystal clear: our goal is to be a news source for everyone, we want it all, and our reporting will prioritize neutrality over honest challenging news stories. I read that and knew their days of honest journalism were over.

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Marie Silvani's avatar

She’s walking a tightrope because she wants the big sale. Money, shit…always leads to corruption, compromise, BS. Thanks Matt for taking this leap. I see how you’re getting beaten up on X.

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cathy's avatar

People have such hate for Donald Trump that they remain blinded to the systemic abuses used to cancel him. The willingness to destroy the bedrock values of your democracy to remove someone you don’t like is mind-boggling, Reminds me of the movie Mouse Hunt where they destroyed the house in their pursuit of the unwanted intruder

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Jrod's avatar

I have many friends with TDS, and they seem to weave Trump into every conversation somehow. I continually tell them it doesn't matter how they feel about him, every American that respects the rule of law and our Constitution should be outraged at the way he's been treated. This is always followed by incomprehension and *crickets*.

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baker charlie's avatar

I know! You could be talking about puppies and they will find a way to work in a disparging comment about Trump. I see that kind of non-sequitur in comment sections as well.

Tell me the man lives rent-free in your head without stating it out loud, LOL!

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Jrod's avatar

HA! Exactly. I stayed over at my buddy's house last weekend after a long night. He was making coffee in the morning out of a big can from Costco that said "Colombian Blend" on it. Out of nowhere, he says, "before Trump took office this can used to say '100% Colombian' on it." I was waiting for the punchline but it never came. He was serious. It's all just so strange.

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Frank A's avatar

Sooo strange, like "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" strange!

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cathy's avatar

I totally agree

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William Taylor's avatar

And what is worse, the entire time, they were accusing the victim of being a threat to democracy and guilty of treason.

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Orenv's avatar

They were always willing to go there. We just got to see it exposed due to their relentless (one of my favorite words) and unhinged pursuit.

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Dave Osborne's avatar

And it’s Trump now but it will be any Republican running for Presidency. I hope the DOJ brings several grand juries together to issue criminal charges against all of them.

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Mitigated Disaster's avatar

I voted for him twice (not in 2016) specifically because of this.

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Kim C McClung's avatar

This is a great analogy! It reminds me of the time I destroyed my yard to get rid of the gophers.

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Ellen's avatar

Thanks for this update, and taking time from what I hope is a great vacation for it. This is the only site at which I read every word published. You and Walter remind me I'm not insane, or if I am, I am in the best possible company.

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PassingThru's avatar

Hillary Clinton, "...17 Intelligence Agencies" agreed. She must go down with Clapper, Brennan, Schiff, and the rest of the terrorists to America.

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Doohmax's avatar

17 intelligence agencies...LOL....documents show that 3 to 5 CIA analysts wrote the entire thing with Brennan looking over their shoulder, telling them what to put in the report.

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Frank A's avatar

Yeah, but didn't it "ring true"?

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Gary Kral's avatar

Matt, you have had a great relationship with Bill Maher in the past it seems. He is adamant that the Russia stuff is real with Trump. Have you spoken with him or have the opportunity to go on his show to enlighten him?

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Art's avatar

Bill Maher hasn’t gotten anything right in 20 years. I feel bad for Walter having to tolerate his oily, phony ambivalence about everything.

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Marie Silvani's avatar

I can’t wait to see Walter with him.

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Mattlongname's avatar

The russia hoax is the only one that hasn't been torn down for Maher by his own party admitting it (eventually).

Which means he'll hold onto it until death, or the next hoax comes out.

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Chuck Campbell's avatar

Maher is repulsive on Israel as well.

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Tim Hurlocker's avatar

I hope Matt's reporting on the Russiagate fraud topples the legacy media collaborators once and for all. Did Jeff Bezos know the role his Washington Post played? Will Ellen Nakashima be indicted? So much to come once Matt returns from his well-earned rest.

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MH's avatar

"This is one project that has to be a team sport" 😨. To me, the two words that stand out are "project" and "sport". This was all a game to them. So disgusting.

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Kathleen McCook's avatar

True. To the people it is everything, to them a game. Good focus on that one sad sentence.

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Mattlongname's avatar

When the people have consequences, but the players do not, then the players are incentivized to treat it as a game.

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badnabor's avatar

Yes, but to be clear, they couldn't come right out and call the subversion what it really was. Conspiracies are not theoretical and they sound bad.

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Feral Finster's avatar

It worked. Trump's foreign policy was effectively hamstrung from the outset.

Even today, the russiagate conspiracy theory remains an Article Of Faith for millions.

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Orenv's avatar

Harry Reids immortal words.

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Nathan Woodard's avatar

it's incredible, right? i know otherwise reasonable people who are still 100% sure that "Putin has something over Trump". As far as they are concerned I'm a lost soul. the damage is real.

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Marie Silvani's avatar

Just like they are 💯 convinced he’s absolutely involved in the Epstein whatever shit show …

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zg100's avatar

I think this is the best, most incriminating release yet. It's written in plain language and gets right to the heart of the matter in the space of a pretty brief email. I think Clapper may be the most damning author for this email as well, since he was the "main cast member" closest to the President.

I wonder if this lends any credence to the idea that Rogers may be cooperating with investigators in some capacity. I hope he is.

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DarkSkyBest's avatar

The plain language is crystal clear. And, it also strikes me that Rogers was documenting in real time that his jurisdiction wasn’t on board.

Compare to the Susan Rice Inauguration Day CYA.

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Chuck Campbell's avatar

I think maybe Clapper is cooperating behind closed doors, also.

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Marie Silvani's avatar

They are probably all racing to cut a deal. F them all I say.

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DarkSkyBest's avatar

Sorry, but I think the compulsion to protect Obama will be beyond reason.

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Lawyers Guns & Money's avatar

He will definitely sing. He's the least guilty, so he gets the immunity offer.

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Chuck Campbell's avatar

If he gets the chair I hope Snowden flips the switch.

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Lawyers Guns & Money's avatar

I'm really liking your idea, Chuck. This one has got legs.

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Don's avatar

I feel compelled to repeat the old saw, "Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely." Time to flush the government toilet and send the big chunks into the sewers from which they were birthed.

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Joseph Hildner's avatar

Eww. I think you’ve mixed your orifice analogies there.

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Jeffrey Link's avatar

Matt, nobody does it better than you. Thnx

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Gary's avatar

Pesky facts. The Left and their lapdogs in the press doesn't care about facts. It's all about saving democracy! Meaning democracy as they define it, which means their side winning by any means.

Off-topic, have you noticed how the League of Women Voters has been fully captured by the Left? So much for being "nonpartisan!"

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Kathleen McCook's avatar

Once the LWV was so objective.

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Mattlongname's avatar

Scott Adams said it best:

When you need to change definitions of words or make words up to win your argument, it's an admission that you never had an argument.

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Lawyers Guns & Money's avatar

They're worried about democracy, without realizing they've been living in a security/police state already.

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TeamOfRivals's avatar

The complicity of the MSM combined with the arrogance and hubris of the IC heads will be their downfall. (Ya know, as in enough rope to hang themselves.) They were so insulated from accountability that they made stupid mistakes - putting the plot in writing in emails to each other? Really stupid! Thankfully, criminals are usually pretty stupid and all wrapped up in their egos so as to be blind to the self-created pitfalls and traps. I love it when Justice prevails.

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Nathan Woodard's avatar

"feelings don't care about your facts"

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Mattlongname's avatar

I like this turnabout.

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Jonathan in SF's avatar

It’s been said before but bears repeating. The criminal conspiracy (my biased “rush to judgment” opinion) did absolutely tremendous damage to our relationship with Russia and our country. All to assuage the egotistical, power hungry machinations of Hillary and Obama. It is that simple.

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BookWench's avatar

I know!

I was hoping that, once the USSR imploded, we could actually be friendly with Russia.

I guess the war pigs in charge had different ideas, though.

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Nathan Woodard's avatar

Have you read Jeffrey Sachs on that whole story? Not a fan of his present doctrines but he was such a champ in the 80s and 90s.

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TLR's avatar

He is a Globalist that has now moved on to championing China as a shining example of world leadership. He's always looking to get his next "bag", Look at his position at the UN, now. The fact that he is touting a Communist dictatorship as something we should strive for, is enough for me to disregard anything he has to say now.

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Nathan Woodard's avatar

i can't disagree. its weird cause he seems like a genuine and decent guy--and I really like his views on what they could have done after the soviet collapse--but we will never really know how that might have worked out. But man oh man when he talks about China now it's pretty weird to listen to. Personally I am very bought in to the Kotkin doctrine, and to me the Sachs approach would likely put us on the road to capitulation and eventually terrible conflict. KOTKIN ON CHINA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aQfzDs7RzI&t=1110s

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Jonathan in SF's avatar

He’s one strange dude. Has a range of opinions, almost all wrong in my opinion. When you get your BA, MA and PhD all from Harvard, you’re the poster child for “parochialism.” Again, just my POV.

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Nathan Woodard's avatar

that's a sound take. He does seem to be advocating for the Pygmalion approach* to China (which would be 100% parochial as you say) but its hard to say for sure cause he talks about them as if there is no issue or any inherent conflict of vision whatsoever. Strange is the right word for it.

*so named by kotkin.

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JDK's avatar

Yep, except I don't think it was quite that simple. I think it rises to the level of "global cabal conspiracy."

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Jonathan in SF's avatar

JDK - you’re right. Clinton and Obama are representatives of a Global elite that includes Merkel, Klaus Schwab, Macron, Starmer, BoJo and others that see Climate hysteria and growing Islamization of Europe as the future.

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Nathan Woodard's avatar

It really is mind blowing how reckless these people are.

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VanishingTribe's avatar

This is the real reason Trump's 2020 election win was stolen. They knew he would attempt to expose all of this (at least what he suspected) in his second term. And this is the real reason for all of the bullshit lawfare aimed at Trump after 2020 -- to try and ensure he would never hold office again solely to prevent these revelations and (possibly) prosecutions.

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Orenv's avatar

They REALLY thought they would get away with it. Maybe they will, but at least it is outed.

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Kim C McClung's avatar

Honestly, this begins to make me question the assassination attempts. Was this neglect and incompetence or something more?

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Chuck Campbell's avatar

Including the Hunter laptop fiasco

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Steve Smith's avatar

Will the journalists who ran with the leaks from Schiff and Swalwell stand up and identify yourselves? C'mon, pussies, you love attention, you're about to get a lot of it.

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Coolidge’s Ghost's avatar

MSNBC’s Nicole Wallace’s husband is one. Because of course he is…

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Angus McPherson's avatar

Comey and Clapper both write books. I wonder how much self-incrimination they inadvertantly (or directly) provide? The problem: Someone has to read them carefully.

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