Agreed. Rush was a horrible, selfish, mean, pandering hypocritical grifter and I never liked him or his show. He was a shitty person and people who cannot see that are also shitty people. I would be lying if I said I feel bad for him dying of cancer. I know I'm not supposed to think or say that. And certainly, he was never sorry anyone w…
Agreed. Rush was a horrible, selfish, mean, pandering hypocritical grifter and I never liked him or his show. He was a shitty person and people who cannot see that are also shitty people. I would be lying if I said I feel bad for him dying of cancer. I know I'm not supposed to think or say that. And certainly, he was never sorry anyone with whom he disagreed ever died of cancer or any other thing - and I don't want to be like Rush. But enough with the polite BS. Rush was an asshole that the world really would have been better off without. Next.
...he really did try out a regular bit called the “AIDS Update,” where he mocked people who died of HIV over music tracks like “Looking for Love in All the Wrong Places”
He reveled in the deaths of others. He mocked their suffering. Pretty tough to get upset when the shoe's on the other foot.
I don't remember that, but there were several things he did that really pissed me off. I wouldn't have liked that. He called Chelsea Clinton ugly, which was terrible to do a young girl. And he apologized for a few things, too. Let's not list the stupid crap Biden has said and done in the past that is just overlooked now. How they are behaving to his death is inexcusable.
I mean, whether you remember it happening or not doesn't really change the fact that it did happen. And the fact that you think Biden sucks (I largely agree, at that) doesn't have much to do with doing a scoreboard dance while gays were dying by the millions.
In the end, he sowed a lot of hate. Now he's reaping it. Tough shit for him.
Your opinion is what it is, no beef with that. However, "gays" weren't dying by the millions. Less than one million people of all groups had even had aids before 2000. Drug users were also a huge proportion of those inflicted and a large number of non-drug using heterosexual people also contracted it. The bit was wrong, as he later acknowledged, regardless of how many died, but the details are still important. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5021a2.htm
Fair enough and apologies if my numbers were off. Believe something like 30+ million have died of AIDS/HIV globally (according to UN figures). I've dealt with how I personally feel about Rush's empathy and the quality of his apologies elsewhere so I won't belabor that here when you're just trying to get some facts on record. Suffice it to say this isn't the only issue I had with him while he was alive, just one I felt strongly about and one Matt referenced in his blog.
well, by saying I didn't see it or hear it, I'd have to hear the whole thing in context. Because I've seen things misrepresented way too often. But if it's as y ou describe I'd have to say it was a major mistake on his part. He made a few. But that still is not the sum total of his life or message. I think Rush was ok if he wanted to believe being gay wasn't normal (as long as he agreed they deserve equal rights)--gay people have rights to do exactly as they please but they do not have the right to make anyone else say or believe it's normal -- but it would have been really really disgusting if he celebrated anyone dying, regardless. (And I don't think millions were dying, either.) He did a few things that weren't the best, but I think he apologized for some and there is nobody in the public eye who hasn't made mistakes. And big ones often.
"He called Chelsea Clinton ugly, which was terrible to do a young girl."
Proposition 1: Rush was an asshole
Proposition 2: Things worked out for Chelsea in the end; she is worth many millions of dollars from doing vaguely defined "foundation" jobs and may have gotten over any hurt feelings instigated by the mean and now deceased Rush
These 2 propositions are not mutually incompatible
Sorry, no sacred cows. The attachment to Limbaugh is peculiar given his routinely exercising his right to offend.
But he did talk three hours a day (right?) during which time if you weren’t boring your audience to death it would be impossible to not say something indelicately or cross some lines.
Yes, he made a few mistakes. But here is what leftists can't stand about him OR Trump. They were both authentic. Neither of them actually ARE the people the left would like to claim they are--because people would see through that immediately. Any time spent with either of them and --compared to the swamp in Washington -- would reveal that they are authentic, real people. And leftists can't have that. They know just how dangerous that is. -- They told the unfiltered truth, too. Since their views were totally opposite from the left, they must be demonized. Not just debated (because they would lose), but demonized.
I appreciate your authenticity. I am sure there were, for example, people hoping for RBG to die sooner than later because of their "moral" feelings about abortion but probably were not advertising it. Both you and Limbaugh have this in common, willingness to show your true colors. I wish there was more of that.
I appreciate your sarcasm. Meanwhile, why just repeat back to me what I wrote? And - why do you not remember the millions of people who rejoiced when she died? Go drown your sorrows elsewhere, Mac.
not sarcastic at all. and also not a fan or hater of Limbaugh to whom listened only few times so I could form my own opinion. ( too many low end commercials breaks for fishy products ) I found your comments refreshing. We live in an era where Pelosi claims to pray for Trump and do so daily and now calls for healing are everywhere, but you on other hand are clear about being glad he is dead. This country would benefit greatly from honesty of this kind and things getting sorted on basis of raw political power within constitutional guide rails without all that nauseating pretense. My compliments were such.
Agreed. Rush was a horrible, selfish, mean, pandering hypocritical grifter and I never liked him or his show. He was a shitty person and people who cannot see that are also shitty people. I would be lying if I said I feel bad for him dying of cancer. I know I'm not supposed to think or say that. And certainly, he was never sorry anyone with whom he disagreed ever died of cancer or any other thing - and I don't want to be like Rush. But enough with the polite BS. Rush was an asshole that the world really would have been better off without. Next.
As noted by MT above:
...he really did try out a regular bit called the “AIDS Update,” where he mocked people who died of HIV over music tracks like “Looking for Love in All the Wrong Places”
He reveled in the deaths of others. He mocked their suffering. Pretty tough to get upset when the shoe's on the other foot.
I don't remember that, but there were several things he did that really pissed me off. I wouldn't have liked that. He called Chelsea Clinton ugly, which was terrible to do a young girl. And he apologized for a few things, too. Let's not list the stupid crap Biden has said and done in the past that is just overlooked now. How they are behaving to his death is inexcusable.
I mean, whether you remember it happening or not doesn't really change the fact that it did happen. And the fact that you think Biden sucks (I largely agree, at that) doesn't have much to do with doing a scoreboard dance while gays were dying by the millions.
In the end, he sowed a lot of hate. Now he's reaping it. Tough shit for him.
Your opinion is what it is, no beef with that. However, "gays" weren't dying by the millions. Less than one million people of all groups had even had aids before 2000. Drug users were also a huge proportion of those inflicted and a large number of non-drug using heterosexual people also contracted it. The bit was wrong, as he later acknowledged, regardless of how many died, but the details are still important. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5021a2.htm
Fair enough and apologies if my numbers were off. Believe something like 30+ million have died of AIDS/HIV globally (according to UN figures). I've dealt with how I personally feel about Rush's empathy and the quality of his apologies elsewhere so I won't belabor that here when you're just trying to get some facts on record. Suffice it to say this isn't the only issue I had with him while he was alive, just one I felt strongly about and one Matt referenced in his blog.
well, by saying I didn't see it or hear it, I'd have to hear the whole thing in context. Because I've seen things misrepresented way too often. But if it's as y ou describe I'd have to say it was a major mistake on his part. He made a few. But that still is not the sum total of his life or message. I think Rush was ok if he wanted to believe being gay wasn't normal (as long as he agreed they deserve equal rights)--gay people have rights to do exactly as they please but they do not have the right to make anyone else say or believe it's normal -- but it would have been really really disgusting if he celebrated anyone dying, regardless. (And I don't think millions were dying, either.) He did a few things that weren't the best, but I think he apologized for some and there is nobody in the public eye who hasn't made mistakes. And big ones often.
"He called Chelsea Clinton ugly, which was terrible to do a young girl."
Proposition 1: Rush was an asshole
Proposition 2: Things worked out for Chelsea in the end; she is worth many millions of dollars from doing vaguely defined "foundation" jobs and may have gotten over any hurt feelings instigated by the mean and now deceased Rush
These 2 propositions are not mutually incompatible
mansplaining or rush apologist?
Mansplaining. I do it a lot 'cuz I a man and I like to 'splain.
To hone my useless point:
Rush publicly mocking a teenage girl's looks reflected his petty, insecure soul. He may have been...dare I say it...a Mean Girl.
Chelsea Clinton is hardly underprivileged. I'm sure she got all her jobs strictly due to merit in the meritocracy tho.
What does it matter who the child was?
And the money to change her face
Sorry, no sacred cows. The attachment to Limbaugh is peculiar given his routinely exercising his right to offend.
But he did talk three hours a day (right?) during which time if you weren’t boring your audience to death it would be impossible to not say something indelicately or cross some lines.
Yes, he made a few mistakes. But here is what leftists can't stand about him OR Trump. They were both authentic. Neither of them actually ARE the people the left would like to claim they are--because people would see through that immediately. Any time spent with either of them and --compared to the swamp in Washington -- would reveal that they are authentic, real people. And leftists can't have that. They know just how dangerous that is. -- They told the unfiltered truth, too. Since their views were totally opposite from the left, they must be demonized. Not just debated (because they would lose), but demonized.
Well, I don’t like to speak ill of the dead but I’m not going to be sorry he won’t be on the air any longer. He was a horrible influence on people.
I appreciate your authenticity. I am sure there were, for example, people hoping for RBG to die sooner than later because of their "moral" feelings about abortion but probably were not advertising it. Both you and Limbaugh have this in common, willingness to show your true colors. I wish there was more of that.
I appreciate your sarcasm. Meanwhile, why just repeat back to me what I wrote? And - why do you not remember the millions of people who rejoiced when she died? Go drown your sorrows elsewhere, Mac.
not sarcastic at all. and also not a fan or hater of Limbaugh to whom listened only few times so I could form my own opinion. ( too many low end commercials breaks for fishy products ) I found your comments refreshing. We live in an era where Pelosi claims to pray for Trump and do so daily and now calls for healing are everywhere, but you on other hand are clear about being glad he is dead. This country would benefit greatly from honesty of this kind and things getting sorted on basis of raw political power within constitutional guide rails without all that nauseating pretense. My compliments were such.
"not supposed to think or say that." says who?
all the moms
Not mine :) or any of his ex-wives :)
Ha! Ok, nearly all the moms... :)