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publius_x's avatar

Actually, you know nothing about me. Your insipid rant complaining about the performance of a man who was shot at less than a week ago sounds somewhat tone deaf. He’s the odds on favorite to be President again, and his detractors have two choices: accept this fact or continue to tilt at windmills and rend garments.

Your life will not be that affected regardless of who the inhabitant of the White House is, but you feel the need to complain. Oh well.

Then again, the initial point stands: “Waaaah!”

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DC Reade's avatar

I know that you don't know how to detect a parade of obvious lies when you hear them.

"The greatest invasion in history is taking place right here in our country"

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/2048/cpsprodpb/13603/production/_119136397_immigration-image.png

"[they] demolished Title 42"

https://borderoversight.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/wola_migration_charts.016.jpeg

"We have an INFLATION CRISIS that is making life unaffordable, ravaging the incomes of working and low-income families, and crushing our people"

https://www.techopedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Screenshot-2023-11-27-at-17.53.01.png

https://cdn.statcdn.com/Statistic/1310000/1312060-blank-355.png

"I gave the biggest tax cut in history, bigger than the Reagan Tax Cuts, but I am going to lower taxes still further."

https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/max_650x650/public/images/user5/imageroot/CRFB%20debt%20chart.jpg?itok=yTUYFfOK

https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2017/11/3/3-15097121978646705_origin.png

etc. Just getting started, there.

You also obviously think that being a Winner leaves someone immune to criticism. Because Winner. Winner.

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publius_x's avatar

How about this cavalcade of lies:

Men can get pregnant.

There is a Genocide in Gaza.

One cannot define what a woman is without being a biologist.

No servicemen or women died under Joe Biden’s watch.

Absentee balloting is as legitimate and secure as in person voting.

Post-pubescent males have no advantage in sports when competing against females.

Islam is a religion of peace.

If you take the COVID vaccine you can’t get the virus or transmit it.

Covid began in a wet market not a lab.

Masks prevent Covid transmission.

There are more

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DarkSkyBest's avatar

Thank you for this list, which of course, doesn't come close to the final copy.

Entities like the subject below are not stupid. They are captured. But they do earnestly believe the non-compliant population are beyond hope. "Deplorable?" "Clingers . . . ?"

And now. Their governance sucks so bad, and the legacy media have been exposed as such liars, well . . . What's left.

Watching the final Racket News RNC wrap-up, you guys are the best.

I was touched by WK's grace toward Trump. Makes sense to me, but then ---- I never did think he was Hitler. Maybe that's MY problem.

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DC Reade's avatar

It's always amusing to read groups of debate adversaries huddling among themselves, making insinuations about my motivations and throwing in tangents and rhetorical gambits. Anything to keep from discussing the lies that Trump stated in his speech in order to fabricate his absurdly dystopian fantasy about the state of the country.

Of course I'm not on the Trump Train. I was up for giving him a chance- like perhaps his close call had provided him with a moment of clarity, and granted him the sense of basic decency and honesty required to elevate his campaign. But not after his performance last night. He's getting over on every rube in America. I'd like to think that the unimpressed and skeptical faces I saw here and there in the crowd are re-thinking their support for such an obvious con man.

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DC Reade's avatar

I get that it's all-important for you to shift the debate to topics where you feel like you're on firmer ground. But all of those statements are your narrative framings, not verbatim quotes of claims asserted by Joe Biden as facts.. I'm not taking that bait.

If you can find me some statements by Joe Biden himself in his exact words, then we can discuss each one of them on their merits to make a determination of which ones are disputable, which ones are false, which ones are mistaken, and which ones are obvious lies on their face. But for each quote you bring up by Biden, I get to bring one up by Trump.

Donald Trump relies on boldly asserted lies in regard to the cornerstones of governance- the economy, the debt and deficit, tax policy, crime, immigration, energy policy- to pitch his candidacy. I've caught Democratic Presidential candidates out in lies before. But I refuse to outline specific examples in this reply, because that would redirect the conversation away from Trump's thoroughly unapologetic fake scaremongering demagoguery, which you refuse to acknowledge.

It's clear to me that you'd rather do anything rather than have to defend any of the blatant lies in Trump's speech.

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publius_x's avatar

You are really going to die on this hill? Over Biden, a man whose entire political career has been filled with lies and half truths?

Visiting the Tree of Life?

Cribbing Neil Kinnock?

Finally beating Medicare?

Some people will believe anything.

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DC Reade's avatar

You're bent on swerving this reply thread into being all about Biden.

I've provided my views on Biden already. Repeatedly.

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publius_x's avatar

You say Trump lies more than anyone else. I say that his hyperbole is no better or worse than any other politician. FDR lied about his ability to stand on his own two feet. Kennedy lied to Jackie in his wedding vows. Billy Clinton never had sex with “that woman.” Barack Obama lied about knowing Jeremiah Wright was a bigot.

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DC Reade's avatar

aand, that's all you got.

Trump lied more irrefutably, more often, more wildly, and on more substantive issues in ten minutes of his speech than all of those examples combined.

Bill Astore has done an annotated version of a portion of Trump's speech that gets the bogosity of his pitch better than any fact-check I've read on Establishment media sites. https://bracingviews.substack.com/p/trumps-superlative-acceptance-speech

That isn't to say that the Establishment media fact-checks lack merit; they go into more thorough detail than what Astore presents, and review more falsehoods. But Bill Astore does a better job of portraying what a fronting clown Trump is.

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publius_x's avatar

Who the fuck is Bill Astore? You think you are smarter than others. You ain’t.

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DarkSkyBest's avatar

Everything the Dems do these days is a lie. But, hey!

Pres. Joey is laid up with Covid but is strong enough to give out more student loan forgiveness from his sick bed.

Pres. Joey, someone who has been in elected safe political office for more than half a century is teaming up with AOC idiocy to impose term limits on the Supremes? These people are stupid, entitled, and intent on destroying our republic.

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DC Reade's avatar

You're the guy who kicked off this reply thread with your sneering mockery, remember? Remember how you replied? Your opener?

It's been fun. I have screen shots.

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BeardTree's avatar

You forgot the whole Russiagate escapade and that Hunter’s laptop was Russian disinformation, and Biden has been at good functionality until quite recently.

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