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«Japan did not "test and trace."»

But of course it did: there are two ways to do it, test a few people potentially infected and do a lot of tracing, or test a lot of people and do little tracing.

Different countries have adopted different mixes of test and trace, with different results: the japanese approach of very selective testing was not that successful because it had death rates "only" 16 times lower than the USA, instead of 100 times lower like countries with a better approach.

«Proximity to Chinese COVID viruses over time and residual immunity is regarded as one possible explanation for the low rates among Asian nations with took radically different approaches.»

Are Finland, Norway, Australia, New Zealand, Iceland all asian nations with proximity to China or rather "collectivist" dictatoships? :-)

«South Korea and Taiwan locked down and tested and traced»

Again, there are variants in the test-trace-isolate approach: some countries do an initial hard lockdown to slow down infections while preparing a test-trace-isolate system, some had it ready already, so for example China-Taiwan did not have a hard short lockdown like China-mainland, and did not do mass testing, only selective tracing:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/29/asia/taiwan-covid-19-intl-hnk/

«Authorities activated the island's Central Epidemic Command Center, which was set up in the wake of SARS, to coordinate between different ministries. The government also ramped up face mask and protective equipment production to make sure there would be a steady supply of PPE. The government also invested in mass testing and quick and effective contact tracing. Former Taiwanese Vice President Chen Chien-jen, who is an epidemiologist by training, said lockdowns are not ideal. Chen also said that the type of mass-testing schemes undertaken in mainland China, where millions of people are screened when a handful of cases are detected, are also unnecessary. "Very careful contact tracing, and very stringent quarantines of close contacts are the best way to contain Covid-19," he said.»

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-29/this-place-hasn-t-had-a-local-coronavirus-case-in-200-days

«What did this island of 23 million people do right? It has had 553 confirmed cases, with only seven deaths. Experts say closing borders early and tightly regulating travel have gone a long way toward fighting the virus. Other factors include rigorous contact tracing, technology-enforced quarantine and widespread mask wearing. [...] Also, as it’s not easy to make people stay in quarantine, Taiwan has taken steps to provide meal and grocery delivery and even some friendly contact via Line Bot, a robot that texts and chats. There is also punishment -- those who break quarantine face fines of up to NT$1million ($35,000). [...] Taiwan has world-class contact tracing -- on average, linking 20 to 30 contacts to each confirmed case. In extreme situations, such as that of a worker at a Taipei City hostess club who contracted the virus, the government tracked down as many as 150 contacts. Then, all contacts must undergo a 14-day home quarantine, even if they test negative.»

The approach the government of China-Taiwan to test-trace-isolate was particularly successful, but the different approach to test-trace-isolate of China-mainland was also successful, even if less so.

Both were *a lot* more successful than the reaganista lockdown approach of the USA, UK, France, Italy, etc.

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