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CTE's avatar

Why do you assume it’s what they want? This could just as easily be considered a move by an insecure elite. Insecure and afraid.

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BradK (Afuera!)'s avatar

Because the only thing more dangerous than someone with too much power is someone with too much power who fears losing any, if not all, of that power. They know their grasp is slipping, and the coming acts of desperation will be cut throat. They will not go gently into that good night.

Their hope is to trigger another 1/6.

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Burnt taco's avatar

They have blm/ antifa on ready for this summer. Dems won’t stop the fire or the civil war. The intensity will be determined by trumps lead mid year.

Dems get behind, riots start. Martial law declared. Election cancelled.

Maga hits the streets for a true insurrection. Military/ cia controls the firepower and we end up in a military coup. Biden drops, Michelle takes over. Trump gets assassinated. We move from 1984 to 1968.

Are there odds on who will actually lead this shithole after it comes down?

Taking the under on Trump/ Biden making to November

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BradK (Afuera!)'s avatar

An interesting side note on the coming violence of summer (and it's coming) is that in 2020 the rioting was allegedly to protest some mythical "structural racism" which no one ever really defined, and triggered by the overdose of a life long felon which was spun into a wild hoax. All on top of the plandemic insanity.

Today we have the virulently Anti-Semitic pro-terrorist demonstrations/riots which seem to be surprising everyone in their level hatred and intensity. But the whole of the Left is not behind the "movement". If this violence spills over into the summer and collides with the growing partisan tensions, you could very likely see martial law imposed before November.

Laugh now if you wish, but mark my words. Someone here mentioned 1968.

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Burnt taco's avatar

It’s not a long putt to see these professional protesters recruited to any left wing talking point. Of course they are all about “protecting democracy “ and something tells me they are well funded with dark money. Witness the riches of the BLM leadership.

Anything Trump says going forward will be declared insurrection proof points justifying the radical left martial response. Not thinking Maga boys will sit this one out. I mentioned 1968 for good reason as I lived it.

The ultimate tipping point would be a draft to send our boys into a NATO or Israel quagmire. I wouldn’t put it past Biden’s deep staters to mount that horse but not before the election.

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BradK (Afuera!)'s avatar

Apologies for dropping off, I had a Christmas (no, not "Holiday") party to attend...

As a wee lad of 5 in '68 I didn't really comprehend its impact until much later. One camp likes to say, "we lived though it", and they would be correct. The other camp believes it was the very core of our nation being ripped apart at the seams and that we barely made it through. Perspective is a difficult thing to achieve no matter how much you strive for it -- even with decades of hindsight.

My gut just tells me that 2024 will be one of the most explosive years in our two-and-a-half centuries, the outcome of which is impossible to predict at this point. However it ends, one way or another, it will be a different America that is is even today.

God help us.

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david's avatar

We have definitely reached a boiling point. The media continues to hum the same innocuous tune. Blithely or deliberately unaware?

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Paul A's avatar

Oh my god. "Maga boys"? Who won't "sit this one out"? How pathetic. Your "Maga boys" are a bunch of losers, halfwits and cowards. They already shot their shot. Already tried to do their dumbass violence in support of their cult leader, on Jan 6th. And lost. Badly.

"Maga boys" are WAY too busy these days trying to evade responsibility for their vile and pathetic actions. Or, they are already, rightfully, rotting in prison, and unable to "not sit this one out", you miserable sissy. No one is doing jack shit. All of you are just like the dimwits in, say, the comments on Breitbart. Making stupid predictions that never even come close to true, talking big about all your plans and actions. Nothing but the lowest form of internet babbler.

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Art4arts_sake's avatar

Whoever it is, they'll just be the sock puppet of the deep state, like all the rest. My bet is gruesome Newsome.

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BradK (Afuera!)'s avatar

With the Deep State being a sock puppet of the donor classes and the globalist cabals.

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Nobody's avatar

About that-- look at who has moved since covid and where. The big coastal cities are all losers, big losers. If there is another summer of fiery but peaceful protests and rapey utopian anarchist encampments it will only accelerate the flight out of large urban areas. This isn't 2020 and nobody is going to vote for defunding the police again.

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Diamond Boy's avatar

Burnt: that’s the real doomsday scenario

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An independent observer's avatar

100%. The country is being provoked into uprising so they can take away whatever liberties we have left.

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CTE's avatar

Oh is agree with this. I just don’t think they have this grand plan. They are afraid. They have a lot of power and are unified however. Dangerous.

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Shelley's avatar

The grand plan was written in the 60s, and don’t exclude elections as a necessary assurance the goal is attainable. The people have never, but once, picked the presidential primary candidates for either party. They were all place before us at the voting booth, accept in 2016.

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Gary Ogden's avatar

BradK: And a far worse one.

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Matt330's avatar

That is my view as well but it is cold comfort. Insecure and afraid often translates into destructive and stupid.

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CTE's avatar

Oh I agree. Very dangerous, probably more so. Let’s not pretend these are the best and brightest though with a well thought out plan.

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Matt330's avatar

Unfortunately, they think they are.

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Janine's avatar

Because they frikking want to lock everybody up who might threaten their power even by voting against them

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Greg Connolly's avatar

Well the type of Moves b et oh my god made by the various aspects of the Judiciary are telling, there is a feeling of urgency. Watch their favored news channels? Oh my god.......

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Connect The Dots's avatar

Because they already made a movie about it?

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the long warred's avatar

The Real Life Green Zone in DC in 2021 is the “Tell.” The proof.

This is what they do (they being the Department of State and unsavory minions).

I saw the GZ in Iraq, I saw the one in DC, after decades and deployments I know what I am looking at. They’re Carpet Baggers who start wars and destroy countries as a business vehicle to loot the American taxpayers. It’s similar to control fraud or the disaster Capitalism that shows up after natural disasters.

Or what was done in Haiti.

We’re 🇺🇸 pretty much on plan Haiti 🇭🇹 in America 🇺🇸 now.

See also Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Ukraine, et al.

This is what they do, it’s all they know how to do... and they’re doing it again here 🇺🇸.

- though yes you have a point, they will usually do a movie and write papers and do “planning exercises” and scenarios, like the Democracy Integrity Project that published the Color Revolution playbook in summer 2020.

Movie? Wag the Dog.

In their minds it’ “West Wing.”

BTW as criminals go they are NOT top shelf. This is the same people since the 90s. The first case was the Rape of Russia money laundering, and they never looked back.

Now how they expect to do this here unless the American military guards their Green Zone is... problematic. It’s very dodgy and really a gamble. Throwing the Dice and betting it all on discipline and inertia. It’s working so far...

Look, DC are criminals with college degrees and that’s it.

They aren’t tough or smart, it’s just the Americans are so weak and dumb they get away with it... so far. Criminals don’t really do long term, they live in the moment. Certainly these ones do... not masterminds, just looting the WALMART at a higher level. We’re so civilized and law abiding it’s too easy.

That’s all. Nothing special.

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the long warred's avatar

Yes and war too.

Really, do have a look at the last 20 some years. What do they do? What did they do?

The bright side is it never works out for them.

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