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It was a great article, but this has been pretty obvious for quite a while. We funded dangerous GoF research at a shoddy Chinese lab and then the major players covered it up and blamed bat soup.

Even if we didn't fund THIS PARTICULAR VIRUS, the funding of dangerous GoF research in Wuhan is enough to convict all the major players -- that's why they were so desperate to keep us from learning the truth. Remember Fauci lying to Rand Paul saying "you don't know what you're talking about"? Remember how Fauci suddenly forgot the definition of Gain of Function, even though he talked about it repeatedly before 2020?

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This story, more than any other, has been the prime example of the government propaganda apparatus and its allies telling us not to believe our own eyes, ears, and capacity for reason. The lab origin has long been the most obvious explanation, yet all manner of deception, misdirection, and outright lies have been deployed to dupe the populace.

The government health agencies have simply destroyed any basis for our trust in them. I think they still don't really understand that, but (more worryingly) it's possible they just do not care, as they feel untouchable. Perhaps they are.

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Folks...I know y'all don't like Donald Trump, but please stop voting for people who won't demand the resignation or fire those who have been gaslighting us for the past seven years.

In the words of that famous newspaper, democracy dies in darkness; and they are right. But it is darkness with which they and those they support try to impose on our politics. They don't want us to know what is going on.

Stop voting for these bozos and bozoettes, It's as simple as that.

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The Washington Post appears to be the darkness.

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And as I like to say about The New York Times “ The Rubbish They Choose to Publish”

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"All The News That Fits Our Narrative"

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Along with NYT, CNN, MSNBC..FOX that rachel maddow is EVIL.

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Stop voting duopoly

Start voting 3rd party

Cheers comrade

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I'm 41 and I'm still laughed out of EVERY room, with EVERY friend I have when I try to make this point. I've come to the conclusion that we're the weird sheep who don't like being herded, and we're the problem, to ALL of them. 1 Sheep 2 Sheep Red Sheep Blue Sheep

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Well Trump went right along with this plan so I don’t get your point.

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You may have actually missed the bigger overall point. Or you may be purposely missing it. But, either way, you missed it.

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What point do you think I missed. I’m open to be educated about this.

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Actually, Trump pushed back before anyone and they used it against him.

Trump refused to wear a mask. So, they pushed to make masks mandatory as punishment. (Recall: they had to be useless "masks," no neck gaiters for those deplorable hicks.) Trump also said at the start of it that the fatality rate would be below 1%. Completely true in the end, but ridiculed at the time as "not taking the pandemic seriously."

The media, academics, bureaucrats, lefties, et al slaughtered him for both those heresies and blamed every death on him personally. And counted the deaths on live TV! Then, after telling the nation he was the cause of covid and the deaths, campaigned against his "softness" on covid. So, I don't think it's fair to say he "went right along" with it.

On top of all that, Trump wasn't even President when the truly insane policies like vax mandates were pushed.

He did what most of us would have done: listen to his public health advisors (who turned out to be lying), call for sanity (masks/low IFR), and push for a vaccine to be quickly made. I bet 99% of us here would have said getting a vaccine to market quickly was a good thing at the time. He did more to push back than anyone did until DeSantis a year or two later (after attitudes had started to shift).

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Yes, I agree with you on all you’ve said. I was just pointing out that he caved & ended up going along with the program. In the end he told people to get vaccinated. People seem to see him as a savior- I see him as a con man that says what his peeps want to hear but then only looks out for himself in the end. I felt like that poster was saying vote for Trump but I may have misunderstood. As far as I’m concerned both Rs & Ds are complicit in the crime & we live in a full blown fascist state.

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I don't agree he "caved." Everyone said get the vaccines. Like, everyone. You can't look back in judgement on past events with the knowledge of today. FWIW, I skipped the vaccines. I quit my job to avoid them. But, there is nothing Trump could have said or done to make that easier. The powers-that-be had decided the vaccines were the savior.

I also don't think most people see Trump as a savior (Clintons, yes. Obama, most def.) I hated the guy until all this happened and I saw how he was being treated. I have family who have been supporters since the beginning, and honestly, they think he's funny and see him as someone who's willing to push back against the sacred cows of the political elite. And they know very well his personal issues. They don't think he's a great person. Just the only one willing to speak up for them.

I somewhat agree re: Rs and Ds, but the D party is more completely bought. E.g., support for Ukraine. Zero votes against from Dems. All opposition came from the Reps. That's a legit difference. Trump, IMO, is neither D nor R. Our system forces candidates to choose one or the other. Like it or not, there is no viable third party option. There is a reason the Dems, the Reps, the media, the bureaucracy, academia, etc. all aligned against Trump: it's because he's not one of them and he's not on board with the forever wars. That's the only unforgivable sin in DC.

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they ALL lie, as if Trump does not? I will give the Don this, he started 0 new wars..other than that, trump is a disaster of person and as a president.

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I think that was in fact their mission statement.

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Doctors are still offering boosters and people are still getting them.......

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I couldn't believe it. My neighbor got Covid for the second time and her response was "well, I better go get another booster." I rolled my eyes out of her line of sight.

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The only people I know who have had COVID multiple times , as many as four times, are all Vaxxed and 2-3 times boosted.

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Sounds anecdotal rather than dispositive. I've known several people who never got vaxxed and had COVID multiple times. Also people who were fully vaxxed (myself included*) and never got it, although I do think we actually had COVID in early 2020 before the vaccinations were out.

*- I was a victim of the paranoia, but I won't be taking any further mRNA shots in the future.

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That is such a great honest answer. We don’t know and evidently , neither did the experts. My own personal problem was being lectured by family and friends about the masks, social distancing and my choice to not get boosters after I had some disturbing symptoms after my second Pfizer.

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As a primary care doctor practicing throughout the pandemic, I think the truth, on vaccines at least, falls somewhere between the highly polarized narratives put out by the two sides.

I recall when the vaccines were first made available that they were advertised to us physicians not as a means of preventing infection but as a means of preventing severe illness and death. In this regard, I would say they seem to have been highly successful, at least in our clinic. I ended up having about four times as many patients vaccinated as unvaccinated on my panel, but all of the five patients I lost to Covid were in the unvaccinated group as were all of the hospitalizations for severe illness aside from one. Anecdotal, true, but the numbers are so markedly divergent between those two groups - there should after all have been about 20 deaths in the vaccinated group if there was really no vaccine effect - that it’s hard to imagine this occurred by chance. Even more so given that my four colleagues with similar panel sizes had identical outcomes.

The problem, of course, is that it wasn’t very long before the vaccines were advertised in ways that turned out to be misleading. We were told they’d prevent actual infection and hence also transmission, which paved the way for “experts” to insist on universal vaccination, including children and enforced by punitive job-loss mandates, in the quest for that elusive high level of “herd immunity” that would allegedly end the pandemic. We were also assured that they were really no significant vaccine side effects whatsoever, even though I saw a few episodes that, although not lethal, would definitely prompt most MD’s to withhold future vaccination based on the general medical principle of “do no harm”.

Bottom line, we were told so much that was untrue that it’s hard to dissect out the parts that were true. My ultimate take is:

1. Yes, the vaccines do reduce death and serious illness in that group of people prone to more severe respiratory complications.

2. No, they aren’t particularly useful for reducing transmission, possibly in part because (ironically) by reducing symptoms they allow some subclinically ill people to wander around and infect others.

3. Because of this there was never any good rationale for giving them to children, in whom the risks of serious illness are quite low.

4. Like many vaccines, they are NOT entirely safe, and although serious side effect seem to be uncommon, there are certain groups (such as young males) in whom the small but real risk of side effects may actually surpass the small risk of serious illness from Covid infection, which is pretty much definitionally the point when one withholds rather than mandates a vaccine.

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You are correct about anecdotal stories; you can find an abundance on both sides of the vax/Covid issue. I have to say your story resonates with me as my views have evolved in conjunction with my cynicism. Will the lab leak story be a case of the coverup is worse than the crime? Or is Gain of Function research the original sin?

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Given the high proportion of asymptomatic COVID-19 cases, and the fairly high unreliability of rapid tests in asymptomatic cases, unless you have had a blood test you simply can't say that you never had it. In my experience most of the people that claim not to have caught it have never had a blood test confirmation of that, and almost certainly they did get it and were simply asymptomatic.

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I was vaxxed and boosted 3 times. Never got COVID. If it stays around in another mutated form, and another booster is recommended by my physician, I may get it. Just like I get flu vaccines.

Did the government lie when they said it would prevent infection or transmission? Yes, but they weren't lying about the lower-chance-of hospitalization or death. Which are pretty good benefits.

The topic is virus origin, not vaccine efficacy.

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But they also lied about natural immunity, which is a pretty BFD. Our young adult son got the original Crud in 2020, got double-vaxxed because you couldn't live your life in NYC without Zee Papers proving you were anointed, and then got the Crud again in late 2021. If you are counting, that's like getting the Crud four times. He was already more protected from serious illness (which he didn't even need to be protected to begin with at zero mortality rate) from first having gotten the original strain, but was forced to get two more jabs and thus at some risk for vax adverse effects. Thank the lord that he was out of college or they would STILL be requiring he get boosted and boosted and boosted against all sanity and morality. It's personal now that our son might have sub-clinical heart damage FOR NOTHING.

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Okay, I get your point, but...they did lie and insulted and betrayed the American people. Because they believe us to be that stupid. They’ve lost me.

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Look into non covid related all cause mortality numbers in highly vaxxed nations. Also there is absolutely no way to prove that it reduces illness, hospitalization, or death. In fact the numbers say otherwise. It is called antibody dependent enhancement. If they lied about this, why would you believe the rest??

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Yeah, my view was similar to yours until recently. I spent 18 months on FB defending the vaccines, only to see my arguments repeatedly undermined by revelations of the shortcomings of the vaccine. Turns out Fauci wasn’t sold on them from the start so I’m feeling like a dunce for taking government sources at their word. At this point time, with Covid now endemic, it’s clear that it no longer makes sense to vaccinate or boost.

https://archive.is/2023.02.08-175647/https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/dr-anthony-fauci-now-admits-the-mrna?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=363080&post_id=101474378&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

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Thanks for the reminder what the topic is about :-) No surprise it has gone in other directions; some see all angles as connected as part of a grandiose big lie. But that seems as unlikely as those who compliantly believe every word governments say, apparently unaware of the use of propaganda to promote fear and guilt.

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I am a pureblood and had Covid 3 times. I have small children and they also had it 3 times. No long Covid and IVM every time.

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That's usually the case, but I do know a few who weren't vaxxed, but immuno-compromised that have had it a couple times.

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You need to get to know a few more people. You can still get COVID if you’re vaccinated but you won’t die from it. You said “ multiple times”.I think that should tell you something. Maybe the vax. worked.

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You need to skip the opening insult.. I’m not basing my comments strictly on my “ people.” My primary Care doctor has made the same observation in her practice. And she is livid with the CDC, etc. Her reputation has been tarnished by following their “science.” The vax did not stop people from dying. One of her teenage sons developed myocarditis. The average age of COVID death in the US is 84.5. The elderly were vulnerable as they are every year to the flu. I’m not anti vax but I sure as hell am never taking a vaccine with Emergency authorization. They took a gamble with this vaccine, possibly because Fauci knew that it had been engineered.. and we were the Guinea pigs. And now the CDC is putting it on the recommended pediatric schedule.. adding a minimum of 32 more shots before the age of 18. That’s mad scientist madness. People’s immune systems are being weakened by this onslaught.

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A separate issue, though--lying about Covid's origins doesn't lessen the need to protect oneself from Covid, in whatever fashion one believes necessary.

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How does one protect oneself from COVID?

-six feet apart

-wear masks

-stay home

-get jabbed

-plexiglass barriers

-instrument tents

-no working out

-no skateboarding

-no sports participation

-have the undesirables (the poors) deliver your purchases

-lock all the elderly in nursing homes and separate them from their families

-put people with COVID on ventilators so they get a secondary pneumonia infection and die

-film dancing TikToks

-get your hair cut or go on fancy outings of you're part of the elite

-prohibit the sale of seeds - NO GARDENING!

-prohibit the poors from going on vacation

-lose your job if you resist the jab

We did all these things all over the world and it did NOTHING to protect anyone from COVID. All it did was violate our freedom and create a bigger divide between the elite and the rest of us.

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Read The War on Ivermectin by ICU doctor Pierre Kory. It contains a list of studies of Covid cures in order of effectiveness found. The book also describes how Ivermectin has tested well as a prophylactic against Covid. I think iodine nasal spray did as well. This book is really fascinating reading.

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There recently was also a study that indicated that CBD could also help prevent infection / lessen its effects. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7987002/

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Hear Hear!!! WTF do people not understand about the bioweapon masking as a oops sorry it is a natural bat thing. BIG difference as this shows intent not oops a mistake.

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This. 👆🏻

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One big problem, that led to Americans pretty much leading the world in COVID deaths, is that too damn many people did NOT do ANY of the things you listed, or as few of them as they could get away with. Some of them were over the top, yes. Well over one million Americans died, even WITH some restrictions. And many of the restrictions actually helped decrease infections, and therefore hospitalizations and deaths.

It doesn't have to be totally one way or totally the other, No Restrictions versus Total Restrictions. As with most things in life, the truth likely lies somewhere in-between.

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Facts not in evidence. I have seen no studies saying that any of those "interventions" saved any lives. Fact is Americans are morbidly obese, and we were told by government officials to stay inside, avoid exercuse, and avoid the sun.

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Americans are also super obese and have all many of health problems, especially older ones. We manage to keep a lot of unhealthy 60+ people alive in this country. That population does not exist (or barely exists) in Africa. So it is hardly a surprise that the US also had a higher fatality rate.

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Think of what the US death toll might have been if 1) we weren't the third largest population in the world, 2) we hadn't killed so many by lethal Nursing/Care Home policies, 3) we hadn't killed so many in the earlier days by ventilating, 4) we didn't have truly extraordinary rates of obesity and diabetes, and 5) hospitals weren't incentivized to declare deaths to be FROM Covid vs. WITH Covid.

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So i guess it's Americans' fault? This Jeffrey Becker pseudonym sounds familiar. Is this Dr. Fauci again?

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Ivermectin, Zinc, Vit C, Melatonin, D3. All protect against the negative effects of Covid. If you are not vulnerable, overweight, aged, infirm, chronically ill then all is good. Israeli studies showed ZERO deaths from Covid in people aged 50 and under who were not seriously health impaired.

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It looks like we might be able to add CBD to that list as well, a recent study found effects on covid infection.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7987002/

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Exactly

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Unfortunately the vaccinations don’t work and if anything, increase your likelihood of infection. It’s hard to wrap our minds around it, but it’s true: both the virus and vaccination are bioweapons.

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Vaccines and masks became politicized with the result the Covid death toll for Republicans rose far higher than for Democrats. The evidence is strong, the vaccine reduces hospitalization and death. https://politicsofthelastage.blogspot.com/2022/12/update-on-covid19-mask-and-vaccine.html

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What about Independents? To separate who got vaxed and who masked by political affiliation is just silly. And I mean SILLY. And anecdotally is not supported by my own little orbit.

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IMHO this data is suspect because of the nature in which the data was collected. The Federal Government incentivized hospitals to maximize deaths attributed to COVID. Even when the death was due to a separate incident such as automobile accident, shooting, prior dominant medical condition, drownings, etc. anyone dying that tests positive with COVID then the death was attributed to COVID regardless if they were a carrier or had COVID and recovered.

Anyone citing these statistics needs to understand the basis of the data.

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Is someone's political affiliation listed on their death certificate?

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Utter horseshit. Stop believing the propaganda.

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It's quite possible that they are both. One application does not obviate the other.

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There is no way to protect yourself except through natural immunity. Although it now appears that those jabbed may be shedding the mRNA gene material on others they come in contact with thus ruining the chance to have an uncontaminated blood supply for the future. What are the chances that this was part of the game plan?

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Zero. Simply because the scenario you draw above is nonsense. So no chance.

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Feddy! Type faster! The nation needs you!

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You've been talking to Fauci! You be a believer!

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Doctors and the corporations that hire them are still getting bonuses for the number of Covid shots they sell.

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Vaccines were politicized with the result the Republican Covid death toll rose far higher than for Democrats. Yale economists did a study and found the Republican death rate, at first about equal to the Democrats, became 10.4% higher after the introduction of the vaccine. Vaccines reduced hospitalization and deaths. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w30512/w30512.pdf

and https://politicsofthelastage.blogspot.com/2022/12/update-on-covid19-mask-and-vaccine.html

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Shhh you’re raining on everyone’s reflexive contrarianism…

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Why then did South Korea excess spike in spring 2022 +90%? Why did roughly half the countries fully vaxxed have more excess deaths post vaccine than pre vaccine? Could it be... the vaccines were no more effective than our largely useless flu shots? And that therefore any attempts to find efficacy in populations require data drudging - specifically ignoring any examples where more deaths occurred post vaccine than prior? That might explain why so many

Republicans died of Covid 10% more than democrats because they are on average 10% older. It isn't rocket science.

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"Data drudging?"

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Why would anyone allow themselves to be injected with a novel substance that had zero long term safety data? They literally took it out of the lab and started jabbing people. Insanity.

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Because the fear mongering generated by our government, health officials and the media, all topped off with some serious shaming and blaming scared the crap out of people. The American people were told that not only could they die from the Virus but that they by not getting vaccinated could cause others to die. And it was a lie and they knew it!

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Orwell was never fiction he was an essayist. Nineteen eighty four was biblical allegory. Orwell taught us how to talk about fascism.

https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/notes-on-nationalism/

He said Israel would become fascist but didn't realize how inept we were at committing to fascism.

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The difference between flavors of totalitarianism is akin to the difference between potayto and potahto. Fascist, communist, socialist, dictatorial; the result is the same. Most debate in this arena involves assuring one's own favorite totalitarian ox doesn't get gored.

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I don't quite understand the comment. Are you saying all government is totalitarian? What about governments that demand mutual respect for all rheir citizens. I remember Shel Silverstein's Freakin at the freakers ball.

I suspect you are confusing totalitarianism with middle class morality but as I said I don't understand . Societies by definition must have rules of personal conduct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEKrHTfrvoo

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Not sure people rfbrazier@gmail.com e fascism with the zeal you state. Most of us don"t want a big daddy dictating our freedoms.

Cheers

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Thanks Dennis,

I think most of us are fascists but Fascist is 20th century and I am ancient and in the dictionary of the English language by Samuel Johnson. Johnson uses conservatism to describe his philosophy. Johnson was a fascist in 1755 or an American in 2023.

The opposite of conservative is evolutionary one hundred years before Darwin.

https://johnsonsdictionaryonline.com/views/search.php?term=evolution

https://johnsonsdictionaryonline.com/views/search.php?term=conservative

https://johnsonsdictionaryonline.com/views/search.php?term=liberal

I was born in Montreal

https://www.amazon.com/Let-Compare-Mythologies-Leonard-Cohen/dp/0061173754

I went to the same schools as Leonard and Kamala and like Cohen I am not an English PROTESTANT.

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I guess I'm more of an "evolutionist". We adapt and evolve as warranted by the environment we bask in: political, environmental, economic and most important CLIMITE. We need strong government and corporate input to deal with both the extistental threats of war and global warming

Cheers

No labels or definitions required...just unified action

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I just wrote a comment in the Fascist Toronto Star on the strength of Canada's conservatives. My comment awaits moderation that is why I subscribe to Racket News.

Iwrote.

"Since when do conservatives want change? "

They are all in on feudalism and public executions.

OOPS I shouldn't have used fascist; in English Canada we call neoliberals like your Bill Clinton.

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No do obvious to me comrade

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Meanwhile, I’m wondering how safe are all these vaccinations I took and got my kids to take. Damn. Of course I don’t trust these agencies. Should have known after WMD.

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“Who you going to believe? Me or your own eyes” ~Groucho Marx~

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Obvious is right. And it shouldn't have taken so many people this long to arrive at this conclusion. In May 2021, it was reported by the Wall Street Journal that in autumn 2019 several researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology became sick enough to require hospital care, “with symptoms consistent with both Covid-19 and common seasonal illness.”

David Asher, a fellow at the Hudson Institute and former consultant to the State Department, provided more detail about the incident at a seminar. Knowledge of the incident came from a mix of public information and “some high end information collected by our intelligence community,” he said. This was “the first known cluster that we’re aware of, of victims of what we believe to be COVID-19.”

The MSM is largely the reason why people remain reluctant to even consider the lab leak origin. They created and enforced a taboo against questioning The Narrative™, ensuring that the lab leak theory was relegated to the fringes. Dismissing and denigrating dissidents and doubters, they declared an unsettled question settled.

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And if this virus was in China in autumn 2019, it was in America in autumn 2019. Remember all the stories about the 'early flu season'?

Nov 15 - https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/15/health/flu-season-early-start/index.html

Nov 16 - https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/flu-early-start-season-us-center-disease-control-prevention/

Dec 6 - https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/06/us-flu-season-arrives-early-driven-by-an-unexpected-virus.html "Flu season arrives early, driven by an unexpected virus"

Dec 9 - https://time.com/5746409/early-flu-season-2019-2020/

Dec 10 - https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/12/this-years-flu-season-is-off-to-an-early-unusual-start-cdc-says/

But the entire narrative hinged around March 2020 as the "arrival" of covid, because anything else would admit that we'd been living for the virus for MONTHS before even noticing it. Yet every single antibody test we did showed FAR FAR more people with antibodies that we assumed. By April 2020, 25% of NYC had antibodies. That's millions and millions of missed cases in NYC alone. That SHOULD HAVE tanked the entire narrative -- but getting Trump out of office was way more important than telling the truth. This is from April 27, 2020 (just before they stopped doing testing because it was showing an inconvenient truth):

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/coronavirus-antibodies-present-in-nearly-25-of-all-nyc-residents/

Regionally, the results suggest:

24.7% positive in New York City

15.1% positive in Westchester/Rockland

14.4% positive on Long Island

3.2% positive in the rest of the state

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Agreed. I got murderous sick with "the flu" in late 2019, but everyone insisted it couldn't be Covid, too early for that. Now . . .

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Is there a date for patient Zero contracting the virus? My sister was sick with flu from September through December of 2019. I knew of a couple other folks sick at that same time period. It was very nasty.

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Even China says it was now mid-November 2019, which means probably 3 months earlier than that.

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Does that correspond to the date there were military exercises going on somewhere "over there?"* The reason I ask is that I remember sometime during that period TKNews did some kind of story about the pandemic, and in the comment section, every time someone ventured an opinion about origin theory, there would be a "reply" about US troops conducting military games in the area. From the get-go and everywhere, the discussion being massaged, even at TKNews.

*Not saying there were . . .

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Those exercises were done in October 2019.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/french-army-returned-wuhan-military-21988912

Fears members of the French Army could have been infected with covid-19 back in October after competing at the World Military Games, have been called "completely plausible", by an infectious disease expert.

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I was one of them. Nasty indeed. Never had a clue it could have been Covid, because of course Covid "didn't exist" then.

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And weren’t there people in Italy sick by early fall? There’s a region where Chinese work in clothing manufacture and return home periodically...to Wuhan.

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7428442/

They found it in wastewater December 2019

And BBC even reported it in June 2020. Don't know why this didn't get traction

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53106444

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I was sick for 2 1/2 weeks Nov 2019. I was extremely tired the whole time. Could hardly make myself something to eat and take care of my four horses. When I finally went to my nurse practitioner and told her how sick I had been, and my throat still hurt, all she would say was it is not strep throat. I think I was helped by the COPD meds I take - steroids for the lungs. I read a couple of months ago that hospitals are having a hard time getting these meds for their COPD patients. They are made in China. That is a good way to eliminate a few million folks.

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Same here. And there were also mysterious and deadly viral outbreaks in nursing homes in Italy around that time as well which I don't think have ever been followed up on.

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I’m sure when I open all those 2019 stories about the flu they must mention how important masks are!

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Youight bite your tongue with it so far I'm your cheek! Excellent point.

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OMG I was so sick in fall 2019, I probably had it. But back then everyone just guzzled cold medicine and kept working anyway.

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I knew people who were incredibly sick in fall 2019 and rather than believe they'd already had covid they let their fear of "something worse" than that illness drive them into the propaganda narrative.

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Yeah my state officially supposedly went from 3 guys from China in quarantine had it, to seemingly 5% of the state basically overnight.

hmmm.

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And you notice that "virus clusters" were discovered everywhere we did testing. Louisiana was an early "hotspot" because they got a lot of early tests because of Mardi Gras, but the virus was already all over the country.

2.1% of blood donations from WA/OR tested positive for antibodies -- and those donations were given in MID-DECEMBER 2019 -- four months before we did anything to slow the curve, and WINTER MONTHS when we were traveling and gathering for the holidays, going to basketball games and bars, etc. All the stuff they said was too dangerous in 2020 and 2021.

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the key is teh "gain of function" research. That's why the intel agencies and Fauci were throwing cold water on the story. But why the MSM abetted the cover up is the sinister part.

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Is gain-of-function research legal or illegal under federal law? Do you know? If illegal, maybe that's why we paid China to do the work . . .

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It was made illegal during the Obummer administration. That's when Shi (the bat lady) moved her research from UNC-Chapel Hill to Wuhan.

And then Fauci etc. laundered the research money through Ecohealth in NYC to Wuhan. And Fauci lied about that as well.

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Eco health just got another grant from Uncle Sam. You can’t make this stuff up. But they are supposedly going to be more careful in the future, new protocols or something.

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What could possibly go wrong?

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what he said

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Thanks, gang. It would appear that Obama made the correct decision about banning GoF research, and Fauci found an end run around that.

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It was already illegal when Obama shut down the U of NC BSL3. Gain of function research is essentially bio-weapons research, says Francis A. Boyle, professor of international law, University of Illinois College of Law. Boyle wrote the 1996 Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, enacted into US law (unanimously) on May 22, 1990. It provided for the implementation of the Biological Weapons Convention as well as criminal penalties for violation of its provisions! After UNC BSL3 closed, the research was moved to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (a BSL 4 lab) along with scientists such as virologist Shi Zhengli, nicknamed "bat queen." Shi was director of the Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases. I'm not sure where she is now. Anyway, the rest is history in the making.

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Jun 13, 2023·edited Jun 13, 2023

The NIH during the Obama administration issued a ban on "federal funding" for gain-of-function research. It was never made "illegal." The NIH later lifted the ban on Federal funding during the Trump administration in 2017.

Gain-of-Function research was never "illegal" in the U.S.---only Federal Funding for it. With the proper permitting and a go-ahead from the government, and a few $billion, a private entity presumably could begin conducting gain-of-function research.

Where's Elon?

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As with climate change, GoF has its science supporters and detractors.

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Jun 13, 2023·edited Jun 13, 2023

I think there is a disjunct between the MSM and what most people believe. The majority of younger people I've talked to since 2020 believed the wet-market story was b.s. from the get-go. They don't watch TV or read newspapers, in part because they question the narratives put out. You've also got all the recent surveys that show the majority of people don't believe the press anymore. The greater issue is that no one believes anything with any confidence now. Everything is in perpetual doubt.

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Very true. The internet has radically fragmented society. Everyone has their own truth now because the internet provides plenty of self-affirming information. There's no shortage of websites or people who'll tell you what you want to hear.

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You write almost as if you think it was better back when everyone went with Uncle Walter's Truth because that's all anyone could hear.

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I write as if I'm stating the obvious.

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So sad and so true, well stated.

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If there is any good that comes out of this it will be that gain of function, which many in this field do not support, comes to it's end. I'm sure many in the scientific community, at least in China, but here too, knew Covid's origin, however, the medical community often goes mute when there is this degree of controversy, that is they stick together and keep their mouths shut.

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Their complicity (medical professionals) is directly related to their job security.

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It's like every other group. They stick together in times like this, and there are so many not only in the medical field, but the political arena all too willing to help.

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No, gain of function is still going on with the COVID virus. Boston University announced a study last year.

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I din't think it stopped just hoping it will. It's still going on with COVID? They make me sick.

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"We funded dangerous GoF research at a shoddy Chinese lab and then the major players covered it up and blamed bat soup."

Bat soup.

This is the best single-sentence summary of this disaster I've read yet. Applause!

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the pangolin steak was yummy

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Fire up some racoon dog on the barbie, mate!

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My appetizer of choice: Bat Tartare.

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How were they ever going to find the origin if it’d been consumed, anyway?

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“🦇Bat Soup 🥣 “ That’s genius; but The real DC Comics Batman genius undoubtedly could estimate how many ministers feed a 3/4 spoonful to Xi every meal?!⁉️ A baker’s dozen; a hundred?

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Well said.

Corporate media in 2023 seems more inclined to find faults with China as they try to build support for another war. Meanwhile they continue running cover for the gain of function culprits at home.

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The problem is that China has the receipts.

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And it definitely didn't help that when the mainstream media framed the origin controversy as Trump vs. the China lab, the China lab received respectful and credulous coverage.

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Trump was right again: Kung Flu

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If disasters can have great quips, this is the one I'd choose: Kung Flu.

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And that journalist brought it up in a news conference hoping to bully him into an apology.

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I will laugh my ass off when Trump wins reelection.

He was right about a lot of stuff.....no conspiracy.

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Go hug someone in Chinatown right now, you racist!

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Will do!

BTW, isn't labeling an area "Chinatown" in a city, racist?

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He was only right because some of 'his' people were in positions to uncover the truth early in 2020. There was also a huge contingency of deep staters that kept the data they had from public view.

Just like with the 2020 Census. No, can't put the results out under Trump. So B gets in office and they give multiple congressional seats to blue states and come out after the next election and say oops. Guess it won't get fixed until 2030!

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Jun 13, 2023·edited Jun 13, 2023

Yes, they would rather be nice to Chinese bio-terrorists (funded by US) than to Trump. That's how effing tribal we are.

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Uhmmm.......several westerners have the same "receipts" as does China. Trouble is there currently seems to be no penalties for lying to Congress as if Congress would do shit all anyway.

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And Biden in their back pocket.

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And their cash in his front pocket.

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Jun 13, 2023·edited Jun 13, 2023

They gave Ecohealth another grant recently. No joke.

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I have a big assed zit on my nose...........and CHINA DID IT!!

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Gotta love CNN coverage of this in 2020

"Nearly 30% in the US believe a coronavirus theory that’s almost certainly not true"

4/13/20

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/13/us/coronavirus-made-in-lab-poll-trnd/index.html

"Anthony Fauci just crushed Donald Trump’s theory on the origins of the coronavirus"

5/5/2020

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/05/politics/fauci-trump-coronavirus-wuhan-lab/index.html

"Trump contradicts US intel community by claiming he’s seen evidence coronavirus originated in Chinese lab"

5/1/2020

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/30/politics/trump-intelligence-community-china-coronavirus-origins/index.html

"Weird science: How a ‘shoddy’ Bannon-backed paper on coronavirus origins made its way to an audience of millions"

10/21/2020

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/21/politics/coronavirus-lab-theory-yan-bannon-invs/index.html

"Fact-checking Tom Cotton’s claims about the coronavirus"

2/18/2020

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/18/politics/coronavirus-cotton-fact-check/index.html

"Coronavirus myths and misinformation, debunked"

Myth: Coronavirus is man-made

3/13/2020

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/04/health/debunking-coronavirus-myths-trnd/index.html

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I loved all those. One hilarious article that I can't find stated how media consumers were more "knowledgeable" about corona than us idiot conspiracy theorists. Two of the major points were 1) Media consumers 'knew' the virus was natural and 2) They knew there would be no vaccine in 2020.

The 2021 version of the article was about the same:

https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/government-is-a-relentless-freedom

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Anyone mentioned by name on those articles should sue CNN into oblivion for defamation. If Dominion can get a billion from Fox, surely others can bleed CNN dry.

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I live in Quebec this is not English speaking North America. Transparency is fundamental to Quebec democracy and we were informed every minute of everyday exactly what was happpening. They just finished studying the long term effects on our school students.

Telling children the truth has no serious long term effects.

In Quebec race, gender and religion are not real. We teach evolution in our schools. Evolution is the opposite of conservative. Liberal means free to adapt.

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«Evolution is the opposite of conservative. Liberal means free to adapt.»

"Conservativism" is always and everywhere about the interests of insiders (incumbents), and it adapts without difficulty whenever that is useful to protect and enhance the money and power of insiders. That is why there is a famous phrase "Change everything to change nothing".

Modern "Liberalism" is also about the interests of insiders, but a different type of insiders from those of traditional conservatives.

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Orwell's essays explain how to write about political philosophy. Canadian Socratic philosopher and writer John Ralston Saul calls it neoliberalism. He says it is neither new nor liberal. It is the same old hierarchy with God at the top and us at the bottom.

I would suggest you get a copy not of Voltaire's Bastards which is still brilliant but get copy of his Doubter's Companion A Dictionary of Aggressive Common Sense 1994.

His definition of cynicism is: Cynicism democracy's greatest threat.

American's don't know history John Adams was a Federalists and Federalists say liberal democracy is a pipe dream. Adams never considered the evolutionist Thomas Jefferson presidency legitimate even after Adams lost the 1800 election.

I am just learning how to write. My dream is to write a modern translation of the American Constitution which was designed to stop liberal democracy. Jefferson tried to have a new constitution for every generation.

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And I keep asking, where is Rand Paul on this? Has he given up? He seems to rabidly intent at times and then nothing. Do Republicans have to have a majority to put Fauci’s ass under oath? I thank Schellenberger and Racket for putting this together, but for those of us leery from Day One....it’s a big “duh.” “ Probably from a wet market”.... oh those crazy Chinese people and what they eat, it’s disgusting”... yea, no, never bought it. So clearly our own government shared responsibility in COVID... and the conspiracist in me at this point can’t help but think the timing was so perfect for sabotaging Trumps presidency, the thriving economy, etc... we went from being confident to being afraid of our own shadow , well, actually our own breath. How great would it be if this little experiment gone wrong resulted in a global ban of all research and development of biological warfare?

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Fauci WAS under oath when he was testifying to Congress.

The problem was that no Democrat in Congress was willing to do the work that Rand Paul put in to understand how deeply involved Anthony Fauci really was in the gain-of-function research issue and in the funding of the Wuhan laboratory for exactly that restricted sort of research.

This has been just another of the big gaslighting efforts that our bureaucracies have been pulling on the voting public.

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Pollyanna here continues to be shocked by politicians willingness to lie about something like the origin of COVID. Think about that.

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The Dems still control the Senate, so they set the rules regarding meetings and such. I'm 75% convinced that's why they "fortified" the 2022 midterms.

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Hey, when Biden's team gets the 2020 census because the deep state refused to put the results out in 2020 miracles happened. Blue states gained a bunch of congressional seats! Ooops... 'we' found a few error... They will be fixed in 2030.

https://dailycaller.com/2021/04/30/republicans-question-final-census-count/

TX, FL, TN should have picked up an additional congressional seat.

RI and MN should have lost a seat had they not been overcounted.

https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/deep-blue-areas-overcounted-census-heartland-states-handed-noticeable-setback

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Covid allowed all sorts of shenanigans that would have normally gotten shot down. Mail in ballots being one of them.......

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House Republicans can hold hearings if they choose. Problem is, they run them so ineptly that we can't take them seriously. I'd be all for making Dr. Fauci testify under oath given this new story, but serious representatives, not Jim Jordan and Marjorie Taylor-Greene, would need to run it. Otherwise it's a waste of everybody's time.

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I think house republicans have been extremely effective with the weaponization of the federal government. The problem is the media refuses to cover it. Consider Joe Bidens bribery claim - on the same day they devoted a ton of time to whether Donald Trump has documents in his house they gave zero minutes to credible proof of bribery and compromise of a sitting President. If the House puts our investigations and the media chooses not to cover them it is hard to get people to know the truth

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A fair point: if a tree falls in the forest, and nobody hears or sees it, how do we know it fell?

Is any online news organization covering this committee evenhandedly and apolitically? Do such news outfits even exist?

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The "serious" ones are either bought and paid for, are still hoping to be bought and paid for, or aren't willing to stick out their necks for fear of being thought un-serious.

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You know we have biolabs all over the world (lots in Ukraine) to avoid our laws regarding gain-of-function. It government is rotten to the core.

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Anthony Fauci should go down in history as one of the great villains of our time. He disgraced his profession by causing concerned citizens to lose trust in public health agencies and officials - he brought shame to the field of virology research through his greed, dissembling, and outright dishonesty - and he destroyed the reputation of the Center for Disease Control through his series of lies and misleading proclamations. This corrupt fraud ought to be stripped of his medical license at the very least and have his tattered reputation serve as a warning to others going forward.

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Kind of weird how the same people who funded the virus apparently also funded the jabs (prepared, if not approved, with lightning speed in 2020).

Its almost as if some psychopaths cooked up an idea as close to "lock the entire world, then charge for the use of the only existing key" as was feasible, with the extra spice being the keys not even being designed to work properly. I mean, if you really squint...

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Yep. Remember the unrelenting message from 2021: We go back to normal if you get the shot. They dangled that carrot out there and most people gobbled it up and thanked them for the privilege.

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convict them if they divulged classified DOD secrets yes. But since when is participating in classified DOD programs a criminal offense?

The people who hid Anne Frank were criminals, the ones trying to ship her to the camps were law abiding patriots.

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It’s the perjury and fraud that stands out as actionable offenses

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As with Nixon and Trump, it's not the crime, but the coverup, that bites you in the ass.

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In the case of everyone else, their crimes and coverups are cleared when they send someone else to prison for ratting on them.

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When those programs are banned in the US and thus outsourced to crappy Chinese labs, maybe?

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Yes - this should be filed under the headline, "F*CKING DUH: WIV Was Origin of Covid-19 With US Fingerprints ALL THE FVCK OVER IT."

Sub-headline: "Baric, Daszak, UNC, EcoHealth Alliance, Moderna, DARPA, Fauci all guilty as fuck."

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This shows human hubris on parade. To go out and collect a deadly pathogen from somewhere in the middle of nowhere and bring it into a city of 12 million to study it. Wow! Talk about asking for it!

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Just out of curiosity, I went back and looked at all of my Facebook friends’ posts on Fauci, circa 2020. They run the gamut, but “Fauci for president” pretty well covers it. Of course, no mea culpas will be forthcoming. No, they were onto the next 20 things of which they were embarrassingly certain for the next five minutes. But wait, they’re not embarrassed. No, again, they just continue to blather about whatever they’re told is truth by their Cable News Network this week. What a world. A near total loss of critical thinking skills defines the western world today.

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"A near total loss of critical thinking skills defines the western world today."

I don't think that's an accident.

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For a “24 hour news cycle”, it’s amazing that it takes years to get it right. We hop from one news story to another, content with innuendos and suggestions, failing to demand old-school journalistic standards. I’m glad I am finding some here on Substack and elsewhere. I work hard on where I get my news.

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Exactly. Totally obvious. Evidently we are funding all kinds of shit in developing countries where it would be illegal to do it here. there should be a law that anything that is illegal here should be illegal to do in a foreign country.

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''It was a great article, but this has been pretty obvious for quite a while.'

I think the value of this may be not the actual revelation, but the fact that evidence is mounting which might help *convince more people* not only that the lab leak happened, but that it was covered up so strenuously.

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Just waiting for the MSM to wheel out Clapper and 50 other retired security/spook types to say this is all Russian disinformation.....

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How do the DoD Ukrainian bio-labs fit into this picture?

Is there any interest to investigate why that ghoul Nuland was so concerned about Russians gaining access to them?

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Because the Russians found ethnically targeted GOF research.

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Ah, yes, “retired.”

I’m sure the legacy media will spin this news (if they even bother acknowledging it) to squeal for a war against China. Or like you said…escalating the war against Russia.

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They'll ignore it.

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That's a good one!

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More proof that you can believe the opposite of what the establishment consensus is...and you will be correct every time. Now apply that principle to Ukraine, vaccines, white domestic extremism, Biden family corruption, Trump witch hunt, climate change, election transparency..........

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Cannot like this comment enough -- that is where we are now.

Even though I've concluded this for several years now, with each story I still feel such a mix of disbelief, disgust, and grief of what our government has become.

Combined with the utter disappointment that so many of my colleagues simply refuse to see it for what it is.

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It is you last statement that troubles me the most...And, sadly, until just recently, my spouse was a head-in-the-sand voter.

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But the good news is, they finally divorced you and got their life back.

That's where you were going with that, right?

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So I can get my life back by joining the head-in-the sand crowd?

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No, you're pretty much done-for.

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yup the only valuable service of the MSM is as an anti-truth purveyor. just listen to their edicts and know the truth is 180-degrees opposite.

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The MSM is just our very own Amerikan Pravda.

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By that logic, aren't masks both effective *and* ineffective?

Idiot.

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Jun 13, 2023·edited Jun 13, 2023

"Sooner or later, this story is coming out...."

The next issue, which I'm not so sanguine about, is will anyone be held responsible for this avalanche of lies, will anyone pay any kind of price?

Looking at all the great American disasters of the 21st century—the Iraq and Afghanistan clusterfucks, Guantanamo, the bank collapse, Russiagate, now the mass Covid hysteria—the rule seems to be as long as you maintain lockstep fealty to every Insider Narrative, you will never lose a cent, a night's sleep, or do anything but continue to fail upward.

For instance, Apoorva Mandavilli, award-winning New York Times "science" reporter LOL, most famous for saying that any investigating of a possible lab leak was "Racist", delivered the commencement address this weekend at the Yale School of Public Health. And listen to this:

“At the New York Times, we pledge to deliver the news, ‘without fear or favor,’...I would urge you all to do the same. Tell the public the truth, the whole truth -- even if you worry that some of it will be misused by some people. Because if you don’t tell the whole truth, if you leave some things unsaid, it leaves room for others to swoop in …with misinformation.”

These people live inside gilded bubbles where everyone they know has an identical brain. They are impervious to reality, will never admit their incompetence and malfeasance, and honestly believe that no matter what any evidence says, they are the literal divine incarnation of Truth, while anyone who disagrees are "some people" spreading "misinformation" aka heretics.

Our global elite caste aka Social Justice Inc. will all protect and lie for each other and would rather crash the whole country than admit they were wrong.

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Aren't we being told now that the Trump documents case is based on his attempt to resist returning and then covering-up not returning the documents? Isn't the cover-up the "crime"? If so, then surely the massive cover up efforts by Fauci, Collins, and all the rest about the origins of Covid constitutes a crime?

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To expose Fauci and company would require a functioning justice system in this country. Does anyone think Merrick Garland’s DOJ would investigate/prosecute any of these people? How do you prosecute a bank robbery if the sheriff is driving the getaway car?

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"The next issue, which I'm not so sanguine about, is will anyone be held responsible for this avalanche of lies, will anyone pay any kind of price?"

Child. In 2023?

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i know!

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Wuhan Lab and Eco Health Alliance should be sued out of business. The problem is in this fucked up world, there will be yet another and another bunch of idiots taking their place. I am so glad I am old now and won't have to see where this crazy train is headed much longer. Fuck me.

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I'm aware of two suits in NY state. They are at the Motion to Dismiss stage.

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Considering how well our judiciary protects big business, esp those that have close ties to our government, I would bet these M2D will be granted. The fucking black robes.

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"USAspending.gov reports that EcoHealth Alliance, despite possibly having caused the pandemic and definitely having repeatedly and gravely violated terms of a US-government grant, currently has 12 active US-government grants and contracts, totaling more than $34 million."

And now this --

"The DOD awarded a grant of $3 million to EcoHealth beginning Dec. 12 for the purpose of combatting pandemic threats emanating from the Philippines, according to USASpending.gov. The grant was awarded as part of a DOD program aimed at countering weapons of mass destruction."

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Oh HOLY FUCK!

I hate when investigating more deets, you find out you really don't want to know what more evil lurks within.

But thank you.....I guess?

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I see so many of these type of reports that NYT appears infected with Lie Plague. Why on Earth would the Times not report like it claims--without fear or favor? The feds cannot shut it down, it's too big and powerful for that. The Times has no real competition anywhere? So why not do the news on the level?

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We are living through a mass ideological conversion of our liberal class, which i wd vaguely define as anyone in culture media academia tech plus the NGOocracy, the C-Suite class and various other Deep Staters like the military brass, State Dept, FBI, Dem Party etc—it is akin to an invasion and colonization of a defeated country, except it is not just our country but the entire Anglosphere and the colonization is both digital and internal.

After the Peasants' revolts of 2016 the global corporate class is determined to seize complete power and never risk an existential shock again. Making Social Justice the official state religion provides cohesion, In/Out group, a moral pretext for every move, the co-option of what used to be the Left, and a constant moral panic that goes by the general vibe of: Denounce or Be Denounced!

They are trying to lock in a Church/State ruling coalition based on surveillance and "managed democracy" and up next will be CBDC, which means control of the money supply and the ability to pauperize dissenters. We shall see if they succeed...

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