I tried listening to the Chapo House nerds a few years ago, but couldn't take their smug pretension. And I do like Robby—when I say I've thought of him as a bit of a lightweight, I only mean that he's not always the most eloquent speaker or nuanced thinker. Sort of how I think of Kim Iversen. Which is not to say that he or she should eng…
I tried listening to the Chapo House nerds a few years ago, but couldn't take their smug pretension. And I do like Robby—when I say I've thought of him as a bit of a lightweight, I only mean that he's not always the most eloquent speaker or nuanced thinker. Sort of how I think of Kim Iversen. Which is not to say that he or she should engage in lawyer-speak like Brie!
I think of myself as left-libertarian, sharing some viewpoints and positions with both the progressive (Brie) and libertarian (Robby) sides. I just can't stand Brie's method and style, and ultimately I think it hurts her cause.
Yeah, I haven't listened to Chapo in years. I do think they can be funny, but they can be even more annoying. Amber A'Lee Frost can be quite good (I've been meaning to pick up her book), but she hasn't been on it in years. Nor has former Chapo and later Briahna Joy Gray/Bad Faith co-host Virgil Texas, who had direct messaged with an underage girl at some point and has never been heard from again (exiled from Brooklyn for all I know, or put to death and buried in the Brooklyn Barista Bad Boy Cemetery).
Chapo Will Menaker fancies himself some sort of movie expert and has some incredibly bad takes on movies, which annoys me the most. I saw his review of MASH on Letterboxd where he says "many of my favorite movies are about how being in a war would be fun and cool," which is the most ridiculously stupid misreading of one of the greatest anti-war movies I think I've ever seen.
And I'm with you: I consider myself both left-leaning and a civil libertarian, and appreciate views from both of those camps (but I also like hearing reasonable arguments from conservatives, moderates, and even intelligent Trump supporters — hearing from everyone is important!). I thought Ryan Grim was much better on Rising. Although he wears his similar-to-Gray politics on his sleeve, he could actually get into the weeds on almost any topic without resorting to hysterical filibustering. He did, however, get his feathers incredibly ruffled many times by erstwhile third host Kim Iversen, with some of her "kooky side of the online left" takes (some, including a weird-to-watch-in-retrospect Kim segment on how "the COVID vaccine is not actually stopping transmission" that Ryan got in quite an unfortunate, ridiculous huff about, since Kim was proven right a week or two later).
But it could be much worse, if you've ever seen Ayesha Cross fill in for Briahna, with some "olde tyme-y ripped-from-MSNBC" takes that make you close the window immediately. I'd rather have my testicles waxed by a pack of rabid hyenas than have to sit through that (or MSNBC proper, natch). Aren't there any honest leftie/liberals journos that can honestly cover all sides of any story that aren't covert party hacks left? Or even better: how about some journos that can discuss all sides of a topic where we don't even know their personal politics?
I tried listening to the Chapo House nerds a few years ago, but couldn't take their smug pretension. And I do like Robby—when I say I've thought of him as a bit of a lightweight, I only mean that he's not always the most eloquent speaker or nuanced thinker. Sort of how I think of Kim Iversen. Which is not to say that he or she should engage in lawyer-speak like Brie!
I think of myself as left-libertarian, sharing some viewpoints and positions with both the progressive (Brie) and libertarian (Robby) sides. I just can't stand Brie's method and style, and ultimately I think it hurts her cause.
Yeah, I haven't listened to Chapo in years. I do think they can be funny, but they can be even more annoying. Amber A'Lee Frost can be quite good (I've been meaning to pick up her book), but she hasn't been on it in years. Nor has former Chapo and later Briahna Joy Gray/Bad Faith co-host Virgil Texas, who had direct messaged with an underage girl at some point and has never been heard from again (exiled from Brooklyn for all I know, or put to death and buried in the Brooklyn Barista Bad Boy Cemetery).
Chapo Will Menaker fancies himself some sort of movie expert and has some incredibly bad takes on movies, which annoys me the most. I saw his review of MASH on Letterboxd where he says "many of my favorite movies are about how being in a war would be fun and cool," which is the most ridiculously stupid misreading of one of the greatest anti-war movies I think I've ever seen.
And I'm with you: I consider myself both left-leaning and a civil libertarian, and appreciate views from both of those camps (but I also like hearing reasonable arguments from conservatives, moderates, and even intelligent Trump supporters — hearing from everyone is important!). I thought Ryan Grim was much better on Rising. Although he wears his similar-to-Gray politics on his sleeve, he could actually get into the weeds on almost any topic without resorting to hysterical filibustering. He did, however, get his feathers incredibly ruffled many times by erstwhile third host Kim Iversen, with some of her "kooky side of the online left" takes (some, including a weird-to-watch-in-retrospect Kim segment on how "the COVID vaccine is not actually stopping transmission" that Ryan got in quite an unfortunate, ridiculous huff about, since Kim was proven right a week or two later).
But it could be much worse, if you've ever seen Ayesha Cross fill in for Briahna, with some "olde tyme-y ripped-from-MSNBC" takes that make you close the window immediately. I'd rather have my testicles waxed by a pack of rabid hyenas than have to sit through that (or MSNBC proper, natch). Aren't there any honest leftie/liberals journos that can honestly cover all sides of any story that aren't covert party hacks left? Or even better: how about some journos that can discuss all sides of a topic where we don't even know their personal politics?