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Zenitram's avatar

You appear to be proof positive of this. You really think you got it going on but then you slip into all the same traps. “What about increasing IQs” 🤣🤣🤣

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Chui's avatar

Thus is the utility of "appears" demonstrated.

What do I think I have going on again? How have you determined it on my behalf?

What about increasing IQs?

🤣🤣🤣

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Zenitram's avatar

You’ve bought into the illusions modernity has sold you absolutely. This makes you average at best.

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Chui's avatar

oh? Doesn't sound like me. What evidence can you point to?

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Zenitram's avatar

From there I can simply assume every opinion you hold, every thought you think is spoon fed to you from the usual “experts” and sources

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Chui's avatar

You are free to so assume, but are not immune from scrutiny in so doing.

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Zenitram's avatar

I only need two data points. You believe in measuring IQ as an objective

barometer of intelligence and progress. You rely on Covid case counts as a measure of anything at all.

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Chui's avatar

Do I believe it? How have you determined it on my behalf?

Same question with the Covid case counts.

Evidence?

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Zenitram's avatar

Your words. It’s pretty simple. You’re writing words, I read them. And now you’re just being needlessly difficult so I’m going to ignore you.

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Chui's avatar

To which words do you refer? Be specific. I don't see them. Are they assumed?

I accept your retreat. Agree it was your best option. That wasn't going to get better for you.

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Chui's avatar

That humans cannot perceive the whole of reality isn't the same as saying they don't perceive reality.

That is the hole postmodernists have never gotten out of.

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Anti-Hip's avatar

There's no way to *confirm* (i.e know) external reality. Only an infinite series of positive test results reassures us. That's the best we get.

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Chui's avatar

There is no "us" or "we" either.

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Anti-Hip's avatar

So, what is there? I'm not identifying any partisan sides here, if that's what you mean. I'm talking about each and every human.

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Chui's avatar

You weren't talking about them, you were speaking for their experience prescriptively.

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Anti-Hip's avatar

I'm not speaking for anyone. I'm making an assertion about the nature of reality -- namely, that no human being is capable of being one with the object to be known. Therefore it is not possible for any human being to know an external object in any absolute and complete way, and therefore those subjective experiences are not "truth" (about the object). It is only possible to know one's perceptions (which are subjective) about the external object.

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